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I loaded my phone with some random (not so old) metal albums that discogs recommended me for a trip to the desert. I went through them all in a few hours. It was awesome. Here are some takes.

Down - (ep i or something)
I liked this, idiosyncratic. Don’t remember much honestly. Minus point for hidden track nonsense lol.

Testament - Brotherhood of the Snake
This ruled, funny “social commentary” lyrics, was that a weird christian song in there? Thrash with good vibes, a little bit cheesy which is aok by me.

Power Trip - Nightmare Logic
Oh my god. This was actually recommended to me by unperson in the high on fire thread but it took me a while to fall for it i guess. Reign In Blood taken to new places. So fucking good.

Clutch - Psychic Warfare
Really fun funky hard rock. Lyrical themes well-trodden but some funny turns of phrase. Like watching a bar band you know nothing about and they turn into one of your favorite bands in 45 minutes.

Yob - Our Raw Heart
This one hit when I descended into the desert and was a nice soundtrack overall. A little plodding and sleepy at times.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:29 (two weeks ago) link

Been really enjoying the Sortilege self-titled EP recently.

vexingvexillologist, Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:35 (two weeks ago) link

Our Raw Heart hits extra for me because of the hell Mike went through to even be able to record that. love Yob. Mike is a cool dude. one of my besties was having a rough time and almost cancelled on going to see them with me back in 2018, but she soldiered on, wound up finding it the most cathartic, emotional shows of her life, and then at the end of the show she went up to Mike to take a pic and he said "you look like you need one of these" and hugged her.

Power Trip was great. fucking tragic what happened to their vocalist.

i haven't returned to that Testament in a while, they did play "Pale King" from it last week. think i dig the newest one more, but it's good. which song is the Christian one? I never knew Chuck to be much of a religious dude, esp due to the song "True Believer", but surviving throat cancer can change someone's perspective.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:36 (two weeks ago) link

i've been spinning something quite diff for me of late, going back to Symphony X, who I still love but hadn't listened to in a while. I'm not a prog metal guy at all, but they do it so well. Divine Wings of Tragedy, V, The Odyssey. but mostly because it reminds me of a more peaceful time in my life.

and spinning through Hypocrisy, who were one of the first melo-death bands I ever got into. Abducted and The Final Chapter.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:37 (two weeks ago) link

Hi Neanderthal! Hope you post a lot to this thread. Looking forward to dipping into some things you mention.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:41 (two weeks ago) link

I think my favorite Yob, if you haven't heard it yet, is The Great Cessation. has my two favorite Yob songs, "Burning the Altar", and "The Lie That is Sin". a bit of a darker tone because Mike was dealing with a lot of music industry bullshit.

in fact....it's time to listen now!

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:47 (two weeks ago) link

xpost hi map! I def will, mostly cos new releases tire me out and I like to jump into the older releases lately

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2022 00:54 (two weeks ago) link

not sure it is metal exactly, maybe just very loud deconstructed blues, but I’ve been listening to Fushitsusha - I Saw It! That Which Before I Could Only Sense (2000) recently, and it sounds really good to me. There are a lot of other interesting Fushitsusha albums too

Dan S, Saturday, 7 May 2022 03:12 (two weeks ago) link

I must listen to Power Trip. Keep reading about how amazing they are. Probably right up my alley.

Duke, Saturday, 7 May 2022 20:54 (two weeks ago) link

It was always magnificent but the s/t Trouble album from 1990 has been remastered and holy shit.


Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 7 May 2022 20:58 (two weeks ago) link

That's a fantastic album

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:25 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, that's the one I keep coming back to in their catalog. I didn't get into them until a few years ago, when those remasters came out.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:27 (two weeks ago) link

If I was forced to choose I'd probably go with Manic Frustration but the s/t is magnificent. I saw them in London in (I think) 1993 - still one of my favourite shows.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:34 (two weeks ago) link

Heard Masters Of Reality’s Blue Garden for the first time the other day. Damn.

Mule, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:50 (two weeks ago) link

wow what a great thread idea

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:58 (two weeks ago) link

I just started listening to that Trouble album too. I had wanted to get Psalm 9 but this was sitting there in the shop with a good review quote on the front

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 May 2022 00:25 (two weeks ago) link

Wow, this Trouble album is amazing.

Mule, Monday, 9 May 2022 11:25 (one week ago) link

recent older metal discoveries for me: Pilgrim's Misery Wizard (RIP the guy from Pilgrim), that Thorr's Hammer record, From Beyond by Massacre, Drawing Down the Moon by Beherit, Sons of Northern Darkness by Immortal. I've also gone back to Pagan Altar and Warning's records, what a great pair of bands with a similar feel and lyrical concerns.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 9 May 2022 13:10 (one week ago) link

Pagan Altar are fantastic. I saw them at MDF in 2013 and they put on an incredible set, largely comprised of their first album.

that Massacre album is fun. I've hung w/ Kam Lee before - nice guy (though I hear he's not such a nice guy to people in his bands, lol). they put on a good show last year, I dig their new album as well.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:12 (one week ago) link

Kam said the coolest fucking thing at the last Massacre show - "no, death metal wasn't invented in TAMPA. those of us who know , know that it originated in Altamonte Springs!" aka where Chuck Schuldiner was from and where they rehearsed in early days. so amazing to think a big slice of history in my favorite scene originated 10 minutes from where I a) grew up and b) live now.

Evil Chuck went to my rival high school (knew he wasn't perfect).

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:13 (one week ago) link

I loved Our Raw Heart at the time; saw them live that year and they were fantastic.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:24 (one week ago) link

the weirdest Yob set I saw was at Psycho Las Vegas. they were playing on an outdoor stage on top of a wave pool. people were having splash fights to Yob. great set. i don't feel like they can have a bad set cos they don't really have bad albums. but I definitely gravitate towards Atma/Great Cessation era stuff.

saw Bad Religion play that same 'venue', was amusing screaming their lyrics with my swim trunks on.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:27 (one week ago) link

alright, here are my ALBUMS OF YORE reccs:


Lawnmower Deth - Ooh Crikey...It's Lawnmower Deth (funny as hell, and with punchy songwriting to boot)


Machetazo - Trono De Huesos (this is of the goregrind variety, extremely uptempo, not really Carcass worship thankfully, and lots of energy and kewl riffs galore. i don't think they're growling actual lyrics)


Mortal Decay - Forensic (I don't like a lot of tech death, but this is the kind I do like - stuff that isn't afraid to kick your ass as well. feels like an album from 1993 but it's not. crunchy riffs of the technical variety but never boring or noodly, and it just outright stomps)


Mortuary Drape - All the Witches Dance (i am out of descriptors, this is just awesome)

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:33 (one week ago) link

If you want great old skool metal please try Manilla Road - Crystal Logic.If you like that then maybe try Lord Weird Slough Feg.

If you liked the Trouble albums then try the first (IMO the best) album Psalm 9.

If you like that, then you may like Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus.

Seconding/thirding Pagan Altar
Warning - Watching From A Distance
and the Masters Of Reality album

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Monday, 9 May 2022 18:16 (one week ago) link

Ooh Crikey It's Lawnmower Deth is one of the best crossover thrash albums ever.

I've been lately getting into Candlemass, I think Ancient Dreams is my favourite of the early ones.

braised cod, Monday, 9 May 2022 18:38 (one week ago) link

1st 4 were great tbf

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Monday, 9 May 2022 18:39 (one week ago) link

yeah that run of Candlemass sits atop the doom heap.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 May 2022 18:51 (one week ago) link

i have an Epicus shirt I wear everywhere

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 May 2022 18:52 (one week ago) link

Mortuary Drape were awesome, never had a big break but they should have.

Apparently the old lady corpse on the cover was a real dug up one.

Siegbran, Monday, 9 May 2022 19:09 (one week ago) link

looked pretty realistic. one of the creepiest covers i've seen

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 May 2022 19:52 (one week ago) link

Saw the Drape play with Volahn in 2018. Incredible show. Never been around denser clouds of incense in my entire life.

Seconding Manila Road recommendation. Their first 8 records are all top shelf and their post 2001 reunion ones are never less than good. One of my all time favorite bands.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Monday, 9 May 2022 22:22 (one week ago) link

Mortal Decay - Forensic

Randomly purchased this out of a bunch of cheap tech/brutal dm at a store and was not at all disappointed, excepting that all of the lyrics to their songs were just like cool gross morbid clinical stuff w/no misogyny except... one. But that's just a genre issue.

Mortuary Drape - All the Witches Dance

Such a good band!! This and Secret Sudaria/Tolling 13 Knell are fucking great.

I was listening to a bunch of metal singles from the 80s last night: Treasure, EF Band, JJ's Powerhouse, Overdrive, Silver Mountain. Don't know why the metal single sort of fell by the wayside as time went on but that NWOBHM/Swedish HM era of stuff is just so fun to throw in a big fat playlist and rock out to.

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 15:34 (one week ago) link

Oh wait, had that Mortal Decay's lyrics confused w/something else maybe but there's at least one song about how bad animal testing is in between the serial killer shit.

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 15:39 (one week ago) link

Don't know why the metal single sort of fell by the wayside as time went on but that NWOBHM/Swedish HM era of stuff is just so fun to throw in a big fat playlist and rock out to.

Radio Fenriz is exactly the show to put when you want to scratch that itch!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 15:44 (one week ago) link

Hypocrisy - Penetralia

ok, there's a really terrible song title on this one (which I forgot about). but the album rips.

completely diff of course from the melo-death of later.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 15:56 (one week ago) link

epicus doomicus is up there with something like rust in peace for me, total classic

caught demolition hammer with immolation + mortician a month or two ago. prior to that, I'd somehow gone my whole life only listening to tortured existence (which rules) but holy shit epidemic of violence is some of the most aggressive thrash ever. (a shame about those "aborticide" lyrics tho, woof)

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 16:02 (one week ago) link

I've also been watching confessor's 1998 performance at a water park in houston a lot lately



(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 16:05 (one week ago) link

I like Confessor a lot but man the vocals just rub me like nails on a chalkboard. (not his voice as much as his constant wailing and the weird melodic choices)

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 16:09 (one week ago) link

Demolition Hammer rip. one big regret - they were playing at Maryland Deathfest in 2016, when I was there. I didn't know em at the time, and I had a complete mental breakdown at the festival that I was still in the middle of, so I walked over to watch someone else play instead.

bet i missed a killer set.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 16:10 (one week ago) link

(back to Confessor, though, don't take as a slag - metal that unique should always exist and be praised. but sometimes....oi).


my favs include

Eric Wagner (and I'm pissed at Wino for helping get him killed)

Messiah Marcolin (I realize there's people who think he is God, and some who find him really fucking annoying - I'm more in the 'very good but overrated' camp, but still recognize the 'very good')

Robert Lowe (my current favorite - Solitude Aeternus and late-era Candlemass fame)

Kayla Dixon/Uta Plotkin (both from Witch Mountain, Kayla being Uta's replacement. both brought their own unique style to the band - Kayla definitely doesn't try to ape Uta. and she comes from a musical theatre background.)

Brooks Wilson (Crypt Sermon - my current second favorite. he was phenomenal live last year, bringing a neo-Dio-flare to the fore)

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 16:21 (one week ago) link

Saw Confessor on the Gods of Grind tour in 1992 maybe? (with Carcass, Cathedral and Entombed). The sound was pretty awful but the bass pretty much ruptured my sternum. Saw Demolition Hammer support (I think) Napalm Death around a similar time. Broootal gig.

After Eric Wagner, I think him off Solitude Aeturnus would be my favourite doom vocalist. I love Lee Dorian's voice too - especially on Forest of Equilibrium.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:20 (one week ago) link

ahh good one, i've been listening to so much early ND lately I forgot how good Lee was in Cathedral

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:21 (one week ago) link

So many things to check out on this thread. Crypt Sermon and Mortuary Drape coming right up.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:24 (one week ago) link

xp Dorian rules.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:24 (one week ago) link

I went to Lee Dorian's record shop in North London the other week (Rise Above Records), he served me and was very nice! We talked about Ashra records.

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 08:43 (one week ago) link

Ché - Sounds of Liberation. It rips.

Mule, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:17 (one week ago) link

Yeah, that Ché album is great. I was reminded of it because I've just started getting into Fu Manchu, a band I heard a song of two by over the years but never really put any time into. And honestly, I don't need more than two or three albums (they've got about a dozen), but at their best they're really good.

Another cool one-off from that scene/era is the self-titled album by Brant Bjork & The Operators, which adds some New Wave synths to the baked-out desert rock sound.


but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:35 (one week ago) link

Fu Manchu is kind of new to me too, actually. One of those bands that have just been out there, churning out albums, but which I’ve sort of just ignored. But I’m on a desert rock run these days, so have been checking out various stuff. Will check out the BB & the Operators album

Mule, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:04 (one week ago) link

Fu Manchu's In Search of is the one I return to the most, absolutely massive guitar tone. Coincidentally, I'm listening to the pre-FM band Virulence rn, very much a late Black Flag tribute but still good.

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:18 (one week ago) link

Yeah, In Search Of is pretty rad

Mule, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:24 (one week ago) link

Love Fu Manchu! In Search Of... is all time for me. I saw them on that tour in a sweatbox in King's Cross. Magnificent.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:44 (one week ago) link

Nebula (featuring members of early Fu Manchu) are even better. Fu Manchu went really off the boil with the really bad 'California Crossing' and never touched the greatness of what came before after it

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:28 (one week ago) link

Brant Bjork - Jalamanta, is the one of his I return to most but he's pretty consistent.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:29 (one week ago) link

Colour Haze - Los Sound de Krauts just got a vinyl reissue and its one of the great stoner rock albums. There's quite a few ilxors who will stan for them iirc

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:32 (one week ago) link

Boris - Heavy Rocks (the 1st one with the orange cover from 2002) is highly recommended stoner rock if anyone wants to check it out. Wish it would get a vinyl issue.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:35 (one week ago) link

Colour Haze is absolutely terrific.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:45 (one week ago) link

What I'm looking for more than anything is a band that's kind of right in the sweet spot between Nebula and Earthless. I like instrumentals, but I like big hooky riffs; I like bands that jam, but sometimes 10 minutes is better than 30. Got any recommendations?

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:48 (one week ago) link

Definitely try Colour Haze then if you haven't already!

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:50 (one week ago) link

You might dig some of Wo Fat, Truckfighters or Ufomammut. They don't always tick all of those boxes on every song (some vocals, etc) but they might land in that realm.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:51 (one week ago) link

or Lowrider. Early Dozer comes to mind too

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:51 (one week ago) link

Monster Magnet - Spine Of God is another album I'd recommend. Its quite different to the (also great) stuff that came after, but the McBain era was something else.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 18:54 (one week ago) link

Another brilliant but not so well known album is Tumuli Shroomaroom by Acrimony. It came out in '97 but did get reissued a few years back

Hymns to the Stone is a good track in the vein of the epic Kyuss songs like 50 million year trip.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 19:51 (one week ago) link

Been picking up some Original Album Series comps, they are such a godsend. Seen Overkill's The Atlantic Years and some reviews complained it was quiet, surely this can be cured by turning it up?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 12 May 2022 00:12 (one week ago) link

hard to believe any metal album mastered after 2000 could be described as "quiet"

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 12 May 2022 02:23 (one week ago) link

Maybe I should be more cautious than buying these sets because there has been a handful of metal classics I just didn't get at all but I'm very intrigued about Overkill

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 12 May 2022 02:39 (one week ago) link

Overkill rulz

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 May 2022 04:36 (one week ago) link

Hypocrisy - pretty much most of their catalog, sans a few bummer albums in the early 21st century.

it's weird in that nobody really rates Hypocrisy's albums as classic (those that do are usually talking about Obsculum Obscenum), but they write consistently good music, even if they peaked in the late 90s. I have a soft spot in my heart for them as The Final Chapter was one of my first 25 metal albums when I was a late teen.

so tonight i'm listening to Abducted, and "Roswell 47" is so badass, but I love how "Killing Art" is an extremely aggressive follow-up. Hypocrisy weren't afraid to rawk while also doing the melodically sensible stuff.

also here is me and Pete Tagtgren


Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 May 2022 02:25 (one week ago) link

The Fourth Dimension is one of my favourite Death Metal albums of the 90s, just before they started to incorporate the melodeath influences.

Siegbran, Friday, 13 May 2022 07:52 (one week ago) link

Hehehe. Great picture.

In the same way that ducks must get sick of people doing duck noises whenever they see them, do you think death metal band members tire of having to look cadaverous and make devil horns? I reckon (and hope) it's a no.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:53 (one week ago) link

There's my next metal symposium paper: Duck noises and the erosion of affect: iconography fatigue in death metal frontmen.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:55 (one week ago) link

Oh I'm sure there are days where they're like "ugh, I gotta do caveman face AGAIN?"

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 May 2022 16:55 (one week ago) link

I do remember the Opeth frontman talking about feeling embarrassed when he did these sorts of poses (once with a sword), it didn't come naturally to him

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 13 May 2022 19:03 (one week ago) link

I mean it *is* performative, like, when I'm drunk it comes easy but I'm more self-conscious about silliness like that when sober.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:06 (one week ago) link

trying to imagine what Mikael is thinking during those pics

"man, I wonder what Steve Howe is doing right now?"

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 May 2022 20:06 (one week ago) link

Maybe not strictly 'metal' but Scott Seward was a big fan of this band as was I, and I know LJ & TT, Simon and Brad will be interested, and I just want to say that after all this time Gospel have finally dropped a follow up album to The Moon Is A Dead World, and its brilliant.


Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 14 May 2022 00:26 (one week ago) link

oops wrong thread

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Saturday, 14 May 2022 00:29 (one week ago) link

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