there is realism at the center of his work which makes it contemporary no matter what sounds he is working with.
― treeship., Friday, 13 May 2022 00:52 (two years ago) link
it also sets him apart from many other rappers on the radio who trade in fantasy.
― treeship., Friday, 13 May 2022 00:53 (two years ago) link
oh yeah i shouldn't have said 'explicitly', he's not a throwback, just still very distinct in the current landscape
what i was trying to say more is that 'if he's the only one of those left isn't that in itself something of an anachronism'
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 01:01 (two years ago) link
18 songs, 73 minutes, let’s do this
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:01 (two years ago) link
Quickly glanced the track list to see what kind of wild guests would be on this
And motherfucking Beth Gibbons is on the penultimate track
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:10 (two years ago) link
oh it's shorter than TPAB lol
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 04:15 (two years ago) link
about the same if you chop off that tupac “interview”
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:17 (two years ago) link
yeah just funny bc this is the one that's being presented as a double, just shows how meaningless the distinction can be
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 04:19 (two years ago) link
GFK :)
― brisk money (lukas), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:24 (two years ago) link
good kid was a double cd in its bonus track version, like 90 plus minutes
― thewufs, Friday, 13 May 2022 04:24 (two years ago) link
first two tracks sound excellent
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 04:36 (two years ago) link
gonna have to listen twice to actually process this. mostly just processing the decisions he made right now lol
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:45 (two years ago) link
kodak the last poet, ok, sure
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 04:46 (two years ago) link
hmm "auntie diaries" is well-meaning but a real fucking mess
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 05:22 (two years ago) link
yah there are some real o_0 moments on the album, but that’s the one that just 100% totally misses the mark for me
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 05:23 (two years ago) link
i can at least grant that it's well-intentioned just like... totally naive still and he'd rightfully never give some well-meaning-but-naive white person a pass for taking the same approach re: race
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 05:27 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/vwzCXPo.jpg
"rich spirit" instant classic
he sounds more conflicted than ever. the way it ends is brilliant. a lot to process on one listen, but it immediately hits me as his most consistently personal work. oh, it's good tho.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Friday, 13 May 2022 05:35 (two years ago) link
it’s very heavy and very busy and much too much for me to process at 1:45am lol
the beat on “silent hill” is sooooo good. and im comfortable saying that the first, penultimate, and final tracks on here are career highlights
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 05:44 (two years ago) link
there's a lot to take in but i'm a bit underwhelmed overall on first listen idk
those three are certainly highlights yeah
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 05:49 (two years ago) link
"Rich Spirit" brilliant, agreed. It's gonna take some time to dig in.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 13 May 2022 06:26 (two years ago) link
Holy fuck
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 13 May 2022 06:28 (two years ago) link
Lol at “beth gibbons from portishead”
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 13 May 2022 06:31 (two years ago) link
Not gonna lie a bit disappointed about the aesthetic
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 13 May 2022 06:49 (two years ago) link
… misdirect on “the heart pt. 5”
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 13 May 2022 06:50 (two years ago) link
oof, "Auntie Diaries" is a hard no
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 13 May 2022 07:03 (two years ago) link
and the first three notes of "Mother I Sober" are irresistibly Vince Guaraldi
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 13 May 2022 07:06 (two years ago) link
featuring Kodak Black is definitely a choice
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 13 May 2022 08:04 (two years ago) link
argh what's the sample on "Mirror" ? I can't remember where it comes from !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 13 May 2022 09:26 (two years ago) link
"the heart part 5" is a fair bit better than anything on this
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 09:42 (two years ago) link
👀
― imago, Friday, 13 May 2022 09:51 (two years ago) link
« We cry together » is… something. 5.30min of love and tenderness to share in a family setting !
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 13 May 2022 10:55 (two years ago) link
I know I’m shallow, butwhere are the bangers?
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 13 May 2022 11:35 (two years ago) link
lmao the RYM shoutbox has already been deleted
― imago, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:43 (two years ago) link
Britishes aside, don't you people sleep?!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 11:45 (two years ago) link
it was the absolute worst comments section i have ever seen on rym
"we cry together" would have been bad as a minute-long skit and yet it's the second longest track here
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 11:46 (two years ago) link
Not sure I'll ever willingly listen to We Cry Together again.
― triggercut, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:05 (two years ago) link
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, May 13, 2022 3:04 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
he’s been on every major rap album this year, so it’s a choice many have made.
there’s definitely something “uncanceling the canceled” about his prominence tho, that’s for sure
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 12:24 (two years ago) link
yeah it certainly feels like he's going for something like that but it also wildly clashes with "mother i sober"
― ufo, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:30 (two years ago) link
I’m not surprised by the messiness, hypocrisy, and complexity of this album. Kendrick has been on this tip for awhile. The album hit me personally being a black male. So I won’t engage in the ILM snark. I think it’s great art. I will say it challenges the idea that seemingly conscious African-Americans are supposed to lead and have the answers. That’s been so ingrained in American culture that if the trope is challenged then the pitchforks come out.
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 13 May 2022 12:58 (two years ago) link
Has Lamar ever mentioned is a trans male?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 13:16 (two years ago) link
*his aunt
Not that I’m aware of. He seems to reveal things about them little by little in interviews.
― lilsoulbrother, Friday, 13 May 2022 13:19 (two years ago) link
After one listen, the best things on here are "We Cry Together," "Purple Hearts" and "Auntie Tales." The tap dancing is a really fascinating metaphor — made me think of Bamboozled.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 13 May 2022 14:23 (two years ago) link
real question: would the folks that have discrepancies with "auntie diaries" prefer he had said nothing? or rather: what did you want his view on trans acceptance to be and how did you want him to articulate that?
otherwise, lilsoulbrother fiercely otm. second listen this morning and i stand by my perfect rating.
― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Friday, 13 May 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link
Albums need not be perfect to be wonderful, though.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link
I'm cis & straight and only listened once, but the repeating slurs aspect struck me as, at the very least, an odd approach to take, and I can see why people would recoil from a straight man doing that without nec unpacking the entire song. I'm not sure what I think about that last line apart from being w(e)ary of these kinds of comparisons.
Beyond that, I don't like the binary of "say this or say nothing," but the way he mis/genders & deadnames the presumably real people he's talking about does raise questions about the representation of marginalized (an overly anodyne word) people by others...not that I have any immediate answers, but there's an idea in academic circles about the difference between speaking for and speaking with that I think is relevant here?
― rob, Friday, 13 May 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link
my disappointment with "auntie diaries" doesn't really have anything to do with the views expressed within. it's clumsy, overly didactic, overlong, and generally lacks the sparkle of his best work.
i did like "we cry together" tho lol
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link
I found "We Cry Together" unbearable, actually, and I queued three times to ensure the fuck-you-bitch thing hit me every time.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:26 (two years ago) link
the alchemist snapped, though
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 May 2022 15:29 (two years ago) link