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Simon Reynolds mentioned he'd played Dry Cleaning's New Long Leg more than any other recent release, figured I would check it out, am now in that giddy flush of love for anew band and a new sound. Hadn't heard them mentioned here yet. The pleasure buttons nudged by Wet Leg and LoneLady are jammed on full by these guys (and I see there was a mention on the Wet Leg thread after all).
anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PuqlOTyJt0

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 6 January 2022 06:09 (ten months ago) link

i think there was a fair bit of discussion in the current-ish crop of post-punk bands thread

they're decent but i think squid ended up mining somewhat similar territory much more successfully to my ears this year, just without the deadpan thing

ufo, Thursday, 6 January 2022 07:01 (ten months ago) link

I found Squid interesting but ultimately too fussy - may do that with these guys too but it’s much more electrifying at present

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 6 January 2022 07:37 (ten months ago) link

I get Lithics and Dry Cleaning confused sometimes. (Love em both)

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 6 January 2022 08:21 (ten months ago) link

They're very close to the only rock act I can imagine voting for in a 2021 poll. (Admittedly, I haven't searched particularly vigorously for other contenders.) Some days "Viking Hair", from a couple of years ago, is clearly the best thing I've ever heard lol.

I feared early on that I was merely desperate for a Life Without Buildings substitute but they're pretty durable and the comparison now feels kinda regrettable.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 6 January 2022 09:14 (ten months ago) link

"Scratchcard Lanyard" was first released, ahead of the album, in November 2020, but it seems to have grown in popularity over the past few months. I've been obsessed with it over the holiday period, and I nommed it for the EOY tracks poll.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 6 January 2022 10:50 (ten months ago) link

I like the album.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 January 2022 11:07 (ten months ago) link

“Her Hippo” made my year-end playlist, but the couple of times I listened to the whole album I wasn’t sure I needed more than the one song. Maybe I’ll try again.

The album is pretty good, a grower. I found the preceding two EPs more immediately appealing especially “Sweet Princess”.

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 6 January 2022 14:36 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

I’m smiling constantly and people constantly step on me

groovemaaan, Saturday, 5 March 2022 05:22 (eight months ago) link

the last thing I looked at in this hand mirror was a human arsehole

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 5 March 2022 06:49 (eight months ago) link

My brain started mashing up "Scratchcard Lanyard" and Sleater-Kinney's "Get Up" the other day and it was a lightbulb moment of why Dry Cleaning and Lithics are so appealing to me.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:27 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

new song & video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjVc8lYIaUM

donna rouge, Thursday, 16 June 2022 04:58 (five months ago) link

Nice! Good for 3 consecutive plays, even. (Brevity obviously helps on that front.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 16 June 2022 07:52 (five months ago) link

file under 'fantastic verses, godawful chorus', what the hell is that banking-advert whistle doing here

imago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 08:23 (five months ago) link

i mean thankfully 75% of the song is fantastic but that was A Decision wasn't it

imago, Thursday, 16 June 2022 08:24 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkYbEPd2qTY

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 8 August 2022 12:19 (three months ago) link

Saw them live on Saturday, incredible show.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Monday, 8 August 2022 14:04 (three months ago) link

another new one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYNwr7wuRHY

donna rouge, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 15:56 (three months ago) link

New one is possibly their all time best

Or at least feels like it could be

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 23:28 (three months ago) link

Really liking the McGeoch influence on Tom

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 23:59 (three months ago) link

"Anna" is good, I think, after a few listens. It's apparently the LP opener, which seems a bold move, unless perhaps it's quite representative of nu-DC.

I like how their visuals keep oscillating between "seemingly near-random footage" and "discernible production budget" lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:36 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

got my tickets for the Melbourne show in December WOOOOO

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 29 August 2022 05:18 (two months ago) link

also milo z thanks for the Lithics mentions, I've had a blast getting into their catalogue

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 5 September 2022 01:44 (two months ago) link

"Gary Ashby" is seemingly a tortoise, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdvrSu38pWY

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 9 September 2022 01:55 (two months ago) link

just got tickets for their february nyc show

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 September 2022 03:38 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

New single/video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyfYFznhyJI

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:12 (one month ago) link

No great surprises but a nice Reynolds piece: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/14/arts/music/dry-cleaning-stumpwork.html

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:48 (one month ago) link

Wearing a long black lace skirt and a sparkly gold camisole, she curled her fingers around the mic stand like the stem of a wineglass

yes

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 October 2022 23:02 (one month ago) link

loving "stumpwork" so far. it's only a slight shift from "new long leg" (she sings a very tiny bit! there's more acoustic guitar) but that's OK with me. i would turn the vocals down a hair in the mix if i could

na (NA), Friday, 21 October 2022 16:21 (one month ago) link

This is fantastic isn't it? A clear step up

imago, Saturday, 22 October 2022 10:46 (one month ago) link

The vocals are absurdly high in the mix. It actually does my head in.

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Saturday, 22 October 2022 13:25 (one month ago) link

I’m not feeling this, the separation of the vocals makes them feel too disconnected and it’s missing the counterpoint between high energy music and lackadaisical vocal word. Feels kind of plodding overall.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 22 October 2022 18:52 (one month ago) link

I'm still trying to assimilate the early-released tracks into the context of the album (super irritating strategy to me) but I sure wouldn't describe Shaw's vocals as lackadaisical. I think the mix is right to foreground her charisma over the less unique sounds of the band, and it adds power to have her insinuating in your ear rather than blending with the band. I'm a little concerned the live show might favour the latter.

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 22 October 2022 22:53 (one month ago) link

Before this thread it really hadn't occurred to me that the vocals were particularly foregrounded. At least not problematically so.

I need to put in some more effort with the 5+ minute tracks but I may end up preferring this to New Long Leg. Feels more varied and I'm totally digging the wonky sax and synth shadings on a bunch of tracks, not least the final three.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 23 October 2022 08:08 (one month ago) link

droopy flute solo comes here

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 23 October 2022 11:42 (one month ago) link

I’ve come to realise Shaw has the same acerbic, insightful, imitative qualities I love in Laurie Anderson, simultaneous horrified fascination and baffled affection for the culture.

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 23 October 2022 11:44 (one month ago) link

I’ve come to realise Shaw has the same acerbic, insightful, imitative qualities I love in Laurie Anderson, simultaneous horrified fascination and baffled affection for the culture.


Yes!

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Sunday, 23 October 2022 13:47 (one month ago) link

Feel like this one is a “grower”. After listening to “Stumpwork” on Friday I immediately listened to “Sweet Princess” again and marveled how great they were straight out of the gate.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 23 October 2022 15:29 (one month ago) link

The cover grosses me out and somehow makes me want to listen to this less

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Sunday, 23 October 2022 22:18 (one month ago) link

haha yeah no fucking way would i buy the vinyl

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 23 October 2022 22:40 (one month ago) link

Haha right? Imagine going back and telling Vaughn Oliver that’s what the label would release for a cover in the future.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 23 October 2022 22:52 (one month ago) link

this is one of his sleeves for Scheer
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/Scheer_-_Infliction.jpg
and Pod featured him nude dancing with a belt of dead eels, he would have been totally down with the Stumpwork sleeve.
There’s a limited mirrorboard edition with a silver cover if it helps?

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 23 October 2022 23:17 (one month ago) link

It was a joke based on how 4ad used to be known for a very specific house style, from which this Dry Cleaning cover diverges wildly, but thanks for the “well, actually” lesson anyway.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 October 2022 01:43 (one month ago) link

ok, missed it

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 24 October 2022 02:43 (one month ago) link

the mix doesn't bother me on headphones

i do see the laurie anderson thing, though i feel like anderson's lyrics are more cohesive/thematic than shaw's, which often feel like a string of non sequiters (not a criticism)

na (NA), Monday, 24 October 2022 14:52 (one month ago) link

It reminds me of the week I spent using the Conet Project CDs as commuting listening in the train, a sense of tuning into the random clutter of unspoken thoughts around us.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 24 October 2022 17:41 (one month ago) link

Also, jon v c, I frequently feel like the stupidest person in the thread for my banal posts, I’m sorry that one came across as condescending but usually I’m explaining things to myself.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 24 October 2022 17:44 (one month ago) link

Feels very weird that this is isn't being widely spoken of in the terms of something quite brilliant tbh. Liberty Log alone has single-handedly rescued Anglo post-rock from a decade of torpor

imago, Monday, 24 October 2022 19:38 (one month ago) link

It's more quiet, more unassuming, more humble, and yet contains vastly more galaxies than any number of these Squid types combined. It isn't just the frontwoman, rightly foregrounded. This band's secret weapon is its music. And so the Life Without Buildings comparisons make more sense this time

imago, Monday, 24 October 2022 19:40 (one month ago) link

Listen to that broken, gasping, intermittent, perplexed groove that swells beneath Liberty Log and tell me it isn't marvellous

imago, Monday, 24 October 2022 19:42 (one month ago) link

Feels very weird that this is isn't being widely spoken of in the terms of something quite brilliant tbh. Liberty Log alone has single-handedly rescued Anglo post-rock from a decade of torpor

― imago, Monday, October 24, 2022 8:38 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i like this band and album, and i know you're just going to do you which is absolutely fine, but i think it should be registered (for probably the millionth time idk) that this kind of baroque meritocratic praise which also just kind of makes things up that aren't even real might actually hinder the band dry cleaning from becoming more widely appreciated afaict.

ꙮ (map), Monday, 24 October 2022 19:47 (one month ago) link

ppl weren't kidding about how high the vocals are mixed

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 October 2022 20:07 (one month ago) link

If anything the lyrics were sometimes hard to discern on the last one for those of us with, ah, attention problems, but they're well foregrounded here.

Chris L, Monday, 24 October 2022 20:33 (one month ago) link

I'm hoping to hear four of these songs on a KEXP show presented by Cheryl Waters.

djh, Monday, 24 October 2022 20:36 (one month ago) link

i like this way more than the first one, musically it's so much more interesting

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 October 2022 20:40 (one month ago) link

yeah, i'm enjoying this album a lot though, unlike LJ, I am finding the back half less compelling.

I knew their guitarist was cool. Did I know he was THIS cool though?

https://worldofechomusic.com/blogs/inner-world/inner-world-027-dry-cleaning

imago, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 14:50 (three weeks ago) link

i love the instrumentation and especially the guitar on "No Decent Shoes Fora Rain" so much

gman59, Friday, 4 November 2022 18:36 (three weeks ago) link

i like this way more than the first one, musically it's so much more interesting

this is otm, but also why it's disappointing that the vocals are so high in the mix, keeps pulling me back from the really interesting stuff going on behind her.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:40 (two weeks ago) link

they are so loud you could pull them back 25% and they'd still be the loudest thing in the mix by far, i know what you're saying about how it keeps you at arm's length in some way

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:42 (two weeks ago) link

Not hearing the imbalance, maybe a hair more prominent than NLL but in no way detrimental to the music for me. Parish absolutely knows what he’s doing mixing small bands with charismatic vocals, and the band have talked enthusiastically about his role in bringing ideas to fruition. They’re an excellent band but a genuine 50/50 with Shaw in terms of appeal.

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 7 November 2022 21:16 (two weeks ago) link

I'm not hearing the imbalance, and, yeah, I like the sax and synth touches on 'Icebergs' and 'Anna Calls From The Arctic.'

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 November 2022 21:31 (two weeks ago) link

I love the bickering in “Kwenchy Kups” too

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 7 November 2022 22:09 (two weeks ago) link

the vocal mix i think is what sets this record apart. this band did not click for me really at all until this album

gman59, Monday, 7 November 2022 22:43 (two weeks ago) link

Obviously what one thinks about the mix or how successful one finds it as an intentional choice is one thing, but I can't see how you wouldn't notice that Florence's vocals are much louder in the mix than anything else. I've listened to it on headphones via my iPhone rip, the original CD in my car and the original CD on my home setup and it feels immediately obvious to me.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 23:08 (two weeks ago) link

I feel like she's definitely floating 'above' the music on the opener, but that's been around for months and I've revisited it infrequently since the rest of the LP dropped. That track doesn't feel particularly representative and it just didn't occur to me elsewhere, presumably precisely because it didn't detract from the experience. I mean, it's not as though there is a definitively 'correct' way of mixing. (Or is there lol?)

People IRL have made exactly the same observation so I'm prepared to believe it's palpably... atypical.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 7 November 2022 23:45 (two weeks ago) link

I've ended up listening to it again now dammit. Updated opinion: definitely better than NLL.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 00:11 (two weeks ago) link

I listen to this band to hear inventive guitar music roiling around Shaw's quietly intense thought process, the mix delivers. I don't need them to sound like other bands.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:37 (two weeks ago) link

Totes.

Also: one of my odder hobbies is watching how bands' sets evolve over time, despite rarely managing to attend stuff. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dry-cleaning/2022/pryzm-kingston-upon-thames-england-5bbe9398.html

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 04:09 (two weeks ago) link

Whoops! Premature submission. I was going to note that their sets tend to be fairly static and that they introduced the bulk of Stumpwork only in the last couple of weeks. BUT it came at the expense of "Viking Hair", leaving only "Meghan" from 2019. This is a major tragedy lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 04:14 (two weeks ago) link

rats, I like "Viking Hair"

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 05:49 (two weeks ago) link

fwiw, my annoyance with the mix doesn't mean I don't like this, I really do. It's even better than the debut! I just wish the vocals didn't kinda overwhelm everything else at times.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:15 (two weeks ago) link

I like the album, more than the first as I said, I just cannot comprehend listening to this and not thinking damn these vocals are really loud

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:27 (two weeks ago) link

Clearly they read this site. "Viking Hair" was back on Tuesday night. :) (Though it was a slightly longer set overall: "Leafy" and "Unsmart Lady" returned too.) Yes, I know, this IS a pathological level of attention to such details.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 04:40 (two weeks ago) link

inverse ...and justice for all bass mixing of the vocal aside, i'm really love this more every time i listen

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 17:57 (two weeks ago) link

Yes me too.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:15 (two weeks ago) link

sometimes the guitars give me vini reilly vibes which is always welcome

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:17 (two weeks ago) link

yes!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:19 (two weeks ago) link

I also agree with the above comments about this reminds a lot of Life Without Buildings but not enough to be a carbon copy. This band and especially this album are similar to LWB but scratch a different itch.

gman59, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:08 (two weeks ago) link

two bonus tracks from the new album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiGKGonhdQ8

donna rouge, Sunday, 20 November 2022 00:20 (one week ago) link

well "swampy" should satisfy the "vocals too loud" camp

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 20 November 2022 00:46 (one week ago) link

sorry, I meant "sombre two" there!

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 20 November 2022 06:05 (one week ago) link

Coming here in January on the world tour - I bailed on Stereolab and Boy Harsher this summer because I wasn't comfortable in a big crowd yet but maybe I'll be braver in a couple of months.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 20 November 2022 06:55 (one week ago) link


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