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f*ckin hell !
just heard 'stoned soul picnic'
on bbc radio 6, and well... what a lost classic !
she's from the 60's by all accounts and i've no idea
if she's cool or uncool but i don't care cause
i'm about to race out and get a best of.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Fuck the best of - get 'Eli and the Thirteenth Confession'.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 13:00 (sixteen years ago) link

right. i will. nice one.
is it all like 'stoned soul picnic' (what a title !)

piscesboy, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Consistent class arrangements with diverse, intriguing narratives, blended beautifully. If you liked SSP you should dig the record.

Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

"eli" is wonderful but "new york tendaberry" just about has the edge. it's a glorious record

chris browning (commonswings), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

"Eli" is the best single album but there's a very good double cd compilation ("The Best of Laura Nyro: Stoned Soul Picnic".) There are half a dozen tracks from "Eli" and assorted other great songs like "Wedding Bell Blues", Stoney End" "And When I Die", "New York Tendaberry" etc. I'd buy that first.

ArfArf, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a best of that came out a year or two back that is, by all acounts, best avoided.

I was listening to Eli yesterday and it is indeed great.

tigerclawskank, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Jill Sobule already asked it, but - what exactly does it mean to "surry" ? (down to a stoned soul picnic.)

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

'Eli...' was remastered and rereleased in 2002 i think but basically, sophisticated, arch, and influential as she was (like a discerning gent's Carole King), her entire discography does not have the strength of 'blue' imo

scott n. (scott n.), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Pure genius. Beauty lies in possibilites her music hints at as much as what it says directly, and so much of that is missing in the popular cover versions. Her own records are a revelation. In addition to the above albums, her debut, More Than a New Discovery, although less adventurous than her next ones, is packed with great songs. It's also overdue for re-mastering. And, after a long fallow period, her last recordings, Angel in the Dark, released posthumously, shows her beginning to find an even more intimate, austere style.

Curt (cgould), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

of course that's no reason not to listen to her. must engage brain before typing fingers next time.
surry + slurry = big feckin' mess, raves in the wood, etc.?

scott n. (scott n.), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

My mate did a DJ set on the weekend and played the utterly fab "Sweet Blindness". Eli and the Thirteenth Confession is a must have for all households.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait a minute, the best one is "Christmas and the Beads of Sweat"! I love her, btw.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

alice coltrane's on that one

jones (actual), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link

(so that one)

jones (actual), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

surry - to travel in a vehicle with a fringe on top?

ArfArf, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

love her - you can't go wrong really

Paul (scifisoul), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a rather decent song called "Laura Nyro" on the latest Cosmic Rough Riders record.

Michael Baker (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I've got 'Eli' too,I'll have to get it out again for a much needed replay.

Paul R (paul R), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

fringe on top is it, well done that cove

scott n. (scott n.), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll agree with Eli as her best and most consistent record. Tendaberry and Christmas are nice too, and there are a few gems on Gonna Take a Miracle, but they're very uneven.

Also search: the Season of Lights live disc, if you can find it. I got mine as a Japanese bootleg.

Destroy: Mother's Spiritual, Walk the Dog and Light the Light, and the live album from the Bottom Line

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
New York Tendaberry is a rather beautiful record. Makes for great night-time music too.

pete s, Saturday, 14 February 2004 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I've just put on 'new york tendaberry' fr the first time since I bought it about a year and a half ago (on ian macdonald's recommendation). and wow. it's night-time here.

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

ah, lovely

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a tribute disk called Time and Love that I like too. Sobule, Jane Siberry, Phoebe Snow, Suzanne Vega, Roches, and more. I just recently re-discovered her and got a best-of (also called Time and Love The Essential Masters). I guess Eli and NY Tendaberry are next (and forget "surry" what's a tendaberry?)

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 05:33 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...
The sun was setting over South London last night and my stereo was playing Nyro's version of "Up On The Roof" and it seemed so right and so damnably transcendent. Her final "roof" is like Gaudi's angel flying off from the top of the steeple.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I've just heard her for the first time last week, and she's wonderful. So far I prefer the Brill pop-stuff to the later, more singer-songwritery material, but it's all good.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i will never forgive ally mcbeal for ruining "wedding bell blues" for me.

the man from mars won't eat up bars where the tv's on (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Where should a Todd Rundgren fan start with Laura Nyro albums, given his obsession with her back at the start of his solo career?

Lotta Continua (Damian), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

ELI

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

agreed

the man from mars won't eat up bars where the tv's on (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I thank you.

I knew you'd make it good someday, but you knew it anyway (Damian), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

you really can't go wrong with any Nyro album, including the ones that got ignored in the 70's (Mother's Spiritual and Smile)...what an amazing track record...Christmas and the Beads of Sweat features, in addition to Alice Coltrane, the Muscle Shoals studio band (on side one)...'97 was a sad, sad year, seeing the loss of both Nyro and her #1 fan, Epic Soundtracks...(all of whose work should be sought out by lovers of both Nyro and early Todd Rundgren)...and yes, her final LP, Angel In The Dark, is every bit as bewitching as her earliest work...honestly, you'd be hard-pressed to find an artist who spread such quality over 30 (plus/minus) years...

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

you really can't go wrong with any Nyro album, including the ones that got ignored in the 70's (Mother's Spiritual and Smile)

mother's spiritual was '84. her other late '70s album was nested (which is worth owning for historical value, but you'll probably never listen to it).

the man from mars won't eat up bars where the tv's on (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

it was all over when she moved to connecticut and started writing songs about "the trees."

the man from mars won't eat up bars where the tv's on (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno...Pulp wrote a song about "the trees" and it was very good indeed...(Scott Walker produced it!)

Laura Nyro wrote one of my favorite sexual metaphors, on "Farmer Joe"...("I can't wait for your cornfields, baby, to grow")

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

er, full title being "Once It Was Alright Now (Farmer Joe)"...ain't no way I'm gonna be wrong twice!

hank (hank s), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

i am quite fond of "gonna take a miracle", even though its all covers.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Whats the very first song (I think) on Nested, the one that has the line "Im a fucking mad scientist too..", thats a killer song.

Capt Trips, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Love her line at the begining of the song " buy and sell "

Cocaine and quiet beers, sweet candy and caramels.

Also love Jackie Mittoo covering " Stoned soul piccnic "

lurk, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Laura's son:

http://www.myspace.com/giltakathoroughbred

Frogman Henry, Monday, 7 April 2008 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

that's real class the way he has (Laura Nyro's son) in his display name. the bredders onroad must be really impressed with that!

I like his SSP, not bad really.

How on earth did you find this?

Saxby D. Elder, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

someone linked it on the facebook group.

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 10 April 2008 03:22 (eleven years ago) link

"MTV's Fat Boys" ??

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 10 April 2008 11:47 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

All of sudden, I've fallen in love with her. All I have is Gonna Take A Miracle and her version of The Bells is going to lull me to sleep tonight. I must find more of her records.

Jacob Sanders, Monday, 12 October 2009 03:35 (nine years ago) link

They're not hard to find! The Stoned Soul Picnic comp was my basic intro to Laura Nyro, but I've since purchased all of the studio albums. They all have something to recommend them, so consistent was her (sporadic) career.

henry s, Monday, 12 October 2009 17:58 (nine years ago) link

I bought "Smile" a long time ago at a flea market, and didn't really get it on the few listens I gave it. I really should give Nyro another chance.

Maybe I'll look for that compilation

Duke, Monday, 12 October 2009 18:16 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

gonna take a miracle is ACE

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 04:12 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

bette midler's induction speech was really nice
and her son the sensitive brooklyn tough was awesome!
never listened to her before
she's really great

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:18 (seven years ago) link

Christmas and the Beads of Sweat is an all-time album for me.

NSFW Australia (seandalai), Monday, 7 May 2012 23:22 (seven years ago) link

bette midler's induction speech was really nice
and her son the sensitive brooklyn tough was awesome!

Totally agree -- not a fan of Bette at all, but her point about Laura's courage was spot on. The performance following was good, too!

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 19:18 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

Never quite had a handle on where Laura's style came from. Just heard Fontella Bass' version of the Goffin/King song "Oh No, Not My Baby," though, and it doesn't sound unlike her. Maybe she's rooted a fair amount in Brill Building, etc.

timellison, Sunday, 13 January 2013 23:23 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Her final "roof" is like Gaudi's angel flying off from the top of the steeple.
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, April 5, 2006 12:25 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

i think about this often

Number None, Friday, 8 February 2013 03:09 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

Hearing Eli for the first time

Blood roses (Ross), Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:48 (one year ago) link

And?

The Great Atomic Cat Power (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 May 2018 03:20 (one year ago) link

I have so many versions of Eli, the basic CD, vinyl, SACD, the mono version, I wish I could hear it again for the first time.

henry s, Saturday, 12 May 2018 03:55 (one year ago) link

It’s the best shit I’ve heard ever

Blood roses (Ross), Saturday, 12 May 2018 05:18 (one year ago) link

Been listening to Billy Child's reworkings of Nyro songs, I found a record recently on Spotify called 'Map To The Treasure', it's mostly pretty great but the version of The Confession is bloody marvellous.

MaresNest, Saturday, 12 May 2018 10:22 (one year ago) link

Whats the very first song (I think) on Nested, the one that has the line "Im a fucking mad scientist too..", thats a killer song.

I never even knew this record existed until this thread just popped up in my feed. Agreed, great song, sounds completely consistent with her classic era.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 12 May 2018 22:17 (one year ago) link

Also, I tell you, “Brown Earth,” w the Muscle Shoals band. Todd Rundgren knew what was up.

Christmas and the Beads of Sweat is so great. As intense and personal as New York Tendaberry is, my favorite Laura is when it sounds like the world’s greatest soul band is trying to keep up with her shifting meters, keys and melodies. It’s like these songs could go anywhere.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 12 May 2018 22:33 (one year ago) link

Nested is really great, I've been listening to that a lot lately. Her "settling down" records seem to split the pundits, but I love them all. Walk The Dog & Light the Light is one of the few albums Gary Katz produced outside of Steely Dan, Smile and Mother's Spiritual are both excellent and don't get me started on the posthumous Angel in the Dark. All these records are gorgeous, perfect listening for this time of year. I only wish her Bottom Line live set would be either reissued or show up on streaming services.

henry s, Saturday, 12 May 2018 23:04 (one year ago) link

A friend gave me a vinyl copy of Gonna Take a Miracle a few weeks ago (I already had a home-burned CD, so I was familiar with the album). This time, I was struck by its strong similarity to The Ballad of Todd Rundgren, which I had been in the midst of playing non-stop in the car for a few days. Found this quote when I subsequently did a little reading on Nyro: "Todd Rundgren stated that once he heard her, he 'stopped writing songs like the Who and started writing songs like Laura.'"

As impressed as I was with my discerning ear, the similarity was hard to miss.

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 00:49 (one year ago) link

last year curmudgeon and I thought that Nicole Atkins' Goodnight Rhonda Lee sounded a bit like 60s Nyro (if the latter had ever responded musically to Dusty In Memphis, I further thought, although would Nyro or Springfield take after-midnight thinking and drinking quite this far, musically speaking?)
https://nicoleatkins.bandcamp.com/

dow, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 02:49 (one year ago) link

yeah the first time i heard Eli i was all "dammit todd!"

brimstead, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 16:21 (one year ago) link

Lol ^^^

Incline/decline (Ross), Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:16 (one year ago) link

See, I hear her exactly the opposite way. I’m like, “Right on, Todd.” The guy has exquisite taste and she’s the best.

Did he and Laura have a relationship around that time? Or am I imagining things that should’ve been?

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 May 2018 12:24 (one year ago) link

Not sure there was ever anything romantic between the two, but he was clearly smitten, as his song "Laura" suggests. Nyro in turn asked Todd to be her band leader but he had to say no because he was still in the Nazz (this was around 1970.) Can you imagine what could have been? He later went on to produce and play on some of the Mother's Spiritual tracks, but apparently most of his suggestions were rejected by Nyro, a habit she had when dealing with producers, so maybe that wouldn't have been the dream team it sounds like. (Todd thought the album needed a hit, that the songs were about nothing more than trees and wind, and that it sounded like "mom" music. This was decades before "dad rock" became a thing.)

henry s, Friday, 18 May 2018 13:29 (one year ago) link

TR on LN…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZN_uL-z0A

Bloody Snail, Saturday, 19 May 2018 08:40 (one year ago) link

That was awesome. The “gypsy with long, curled fingernails” image was...not surprising exactly but not something I’d quite anticipated either.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 19 May 2018 16:25 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

Listened to NYT years ago and couldn't really click but the tomcat song blew my mind. The way she shrieks on that is just stunning.

Too many years later I get Eli and it's all clicking and I realize she's so much more than a great singer. I need to return to NYT but I also want to get much further and it seems like most people drop off after a few albums. Nice to see Henry bigging up her later albums because I really want to get them eventually.

Nyro threads here are sadly short and even with the Rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame entry, she seems to still be due a ton of respect. I have noticed some female artists getting their due recently and here's hoping that Nyro will get hers soon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 25 May 2019 15:44 (one month ago) link

There's also surprisingly little live footage of her on YouTube. This one, though, is pretty great. No sure where she goes between 5:52 and 5:56, but that look in her eyes gets me very time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUiVPCfJqAo

henry s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:15 (one month ago) link

I wouldn't have noticed if they did but Mojo and Uncut really should have tried her as a cover feature.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 25 May 2019 16:48 (one month ago) link

I was a faithful reader of both, I think Uncut did a feature on NYT as a "lost classic" but that's about it. Wax Poetics had a nice long feature on Laura in their Blue-Eyed Soul issue (the one w/ Daryl Hall on the cover) a few years back.

henry s, Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:10 (one month ago) link

An early 90s CD copy of Christmas cost me 20 pounds, the late 00s versions were way too expensive. Didn't expect this to be a rare CD.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 May 2019 23:33 (one month ago) link

Same with the Bottom Line live CD, even used copies go for for a hundred bucks.

Just listened to Christmas yesterday. FUN FACT: When I first developed my particular form of tinnitus, I noticed there was a certain piano chord on "Brown Earth" that would nullify the ringing, just for a second. Was the strangest sensation. Doesn't work anymore, probably because I've adjusted ("habituated", in med speak) to the condition.

henry s, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 03:39 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

I was a faithful reader of both, I think Uncut did a feature on NYT as a "lost classic" but that's about it. Wax Poetics had a nice long feature on Laura in their Blue-Eyed Soul issue (the one w/ Daryl Hall on the cover) a few years back.

If memory serves that was an Ian MacDonald writeup of a reissue. Great piece but just a feature review.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 7 July 2019 04:06 (two weeks ago) link


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