Most Influential Artists of 1996 in 2021

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since this whole exercise is theoretical anyway i'm more interested in the question of what a list would look like if you reverse engineered it based on the artists in 1996 that shaped the next 25 years of music. like not what ppl would have said at the time but what would be accurate in retrospect, bcuz i feel like those would be two largely different lists

― J0rdan S., Monday, October 11, 2021 5:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Would be a good thread. Who would have possibly guessed Screw and Dilla back then

― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, October 11, 2021 5:55 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I’m blanking out. There’s albums from 1996 that still feel influential to me but couldn’t name what artists from 2021 they are still influencing… maybe they’re not.

Anyways:

Outkast - Atliens
Everything but the girl - walking wounded
Ground Zero - Pekinese Opera V. 1.28
Aphex Twin - Richard D James
Fiona Apple - Tidal
Dr. octagon

And La Macarena obvs

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, October 11, 2021 8:37 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Big Boy - mis ojos lloran por ti

Would have been a massive spot on choice for 1996 as it’s pretty much proto-reggaeton.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, October 11, 2021 8:40 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Jay-Z
2Pac
UGK
Korn
Three 6 Mafia
Sleater Kinney
Aaliyah

― St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Monday, October 11, 2021 8:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 22:21 (six days ago) link

25 years is a long time and it's hard to consider only 2021.
Stereolab, Swans, The Roots, Modest Mouse, Orbital

Nabozo, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 06:46 (five days ago) link

suga t

100 flacs (noz), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 10:21 (five days ago) link

esham

100 flacs (noz), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 10:23 (five days ago) link

lil kim definitely

100 flacs (noz), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 10:23 (five days ago) link

adam f but maybe that's cheating

100 flacs (noz), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 10:26 (five days ago) link

ghostface

100 flacs (noz), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 10:27 (five days ago) link

Mr. President

nashwan, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 13:30 (five days ago) link

Dave Matthews Band

Indexed, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:06 (five days ago) link

Come on Over was 1997 and Wide Open Spaces was 1998, but Shania Twain and the Dixie Chicks seem to be the most direct influences on Taylor Swift, Miranda Lambert, and the course of female-fronted country music in the 21st century

Indexed, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:10 (five days ago) link

Honestly, Burzum :/

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:20 (five days ago) link

not sure if i hear that but that did make me think: summoning

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:32 (five days ago) link

Sheryl Crow

MarkoP, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:34 (five days ago) link

tho they hadn’t really done of their influential work by 1996, don’t mind me

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:34 (five days ago) link

Failure

MarkoP, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:37 (five days ago) link

I feel these three singles wouldn’t sound out of place in 2021:

Jamiroquai - virtual insanity
Sublime - doin time
D’angelo - lady

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 15:39 (five days ago) link

bjork
chemical brothers
orbital and other electronic acts at glastonbury

scanner darkly, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:36 (five days ago) link

After thinking about this for 5 minutes I have realised I have no firm grip on what music sounds like in 2021.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:47 (five days ago) link

daft punk

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:32 (five days ago) link

^Not until ‘97, no? Honestly, 1997 would be an easier year for this exercise… ‘96 was kind of transitional.

juristic person (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:35 (five days ago) link

After thinking about this for 5 minutes I have realised I have no firm grip on what music sounds like in 2021.

― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

It’s either music to dance to or music to uglycry to in tiktok iirc.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:39 (five days ago) link

xp some singles came out in '96 so i'm stickin to it

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:46 (five days ago) link

someone from the world of dancehall. maybe shabba? was bounty killer around yet?

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:42 (five days ago) link

If we're talking influencial over the entire period 1996-2021 and not just in this year 2021, then I guess something like:

LTJ Bukem
Daft Punk/Dimitri From Paris/Cassius
Diamanda Galás
Fishmans
Nick Cave (in as much as he can be a "1996 artist", he did release his three biggest albums in the 1994-1997 period)
Tortoise
Current 93
Windy & Carl (in the sense of, drony ambient-meets-shoegaze?)
early emo bands like Jimmy Eat World/The Promise Ring
in metal, yeah definitely Burzum (although by 1996 he had already been incarcerated for two years, the influential stuff was all recorded earlier)
also Opeth, Neurosis/Eyehategod/Tool, Immolation
Apoptygma Berzerk/Covenant
Astral Projection/Hallucinogen
Paul van Dyk/Tiesto/MIKE

Siegbran, Thursday, 14 October 2021 07:13 (four days ago) link


Astral Projection/Hallucinogen

― Siegbran, Thursday, 14 October 2021 08:13 (one hour ago)

Jesus mate, what is it with the psytrance revival. PVD/Mike I can understand even if I think they suck, but the same people making the biggest hoo-ha about cultural appropriation are also fans of goa crud. The script just keeps going on and on...

RobbiePires, Thursday, 14 October 2021 09:11 (four days ago) link

are fishmans really that influential

like i know they've been critical favourites in japan for a while but i have no idea how much their influence has actually been felt, did they actually inspire a wave of dubby dream pop acts there or anything

obviously in the west they just have a minor music nerd cult following as of the last 5 years or so but that hasn't at all translated to any sort of influence outside japan

ufo, Thursday, 14 October 2021 10:41 (four days ago) link

It certainly seems to me that their psychedelic dreampop thing was the blueprint of the whole chillwave thing that kind or permeated the 2010s, although yeah, maybe not directly?

xpost @ RobbiePires I keep reading that comment in a Jerry Seinfeld voice

Siegbran, Thursday, 14 October 2021 10:53 (four days ago) link

Fishmans have definitely influenced RYM users, lol

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 14 October 2021 10:54 (four days ago) link

although yeah, maybe not directly?

absolutely not at all directly, their western cult fanbase on rym etc. only really developed around 2016 or so? & before that they were pretty much completely unknown - i stumbled across them maybe a year before the rym following really developed by digging through some rolling stone japan list. i don't think there's that much of a stylistic similarity either with chillwave either - the dub part of their sound isn't found in that at all.

ufo, Thursday, 14 October 2021 11:15 (four days ago) link

the fishmans cult is also weird because they really overrate long season! uchuu nippon setagaya is their real classic

ufo, Thursday, 14 October 2021 11:17 (four days ago) link

nobody’s said weezer yet lol

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 October 2021 11:48 (four days ago) link

After thinking about this for 5 minutes I have realised I have no firm grip on what music sounds like in 2021.

This. But if I had to guess I'd say TLC would be high on the list.

o. nate, Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:32 (four days ago) link

What did TLC do in 1996? Crazy Sexy Cool was earlier and Fanmail was later.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:37 (four days ago) link

The way I see it "influential 1996 artist" doesn't necessarily mean they released an album that year

J. Sam, Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:46 (four days ago) link

yea idk what "2021 music" really sounds like either but a lotta new indie electronic stuff kinda sounds like Mouse on Mars to me

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:51 (four days ago) link

I would take it to mean artist for whom 1996 was def their year, like Jamiroquai (of everyone mentioned so far), who are associated with that particular year, not equally a couple of years before or after- but that may be way too pedantic.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:13 (four days ago) link

Some dance music artists not yet mentioned:

Herbert
DJ Harvey
Kerri Chandler
Porter Ricks (though really Basic Channel if we're not being strict about release dates)
Oval
Motorbass

Tim F, Friday, 15 October 2021 00:54 (three days ago) link

also Endtroducing was released in 96

scanner darkly, Friday, 15 October 2021 01:41 (three days ago) link

I love Herbert. What music in 2021 do you hear that was influenced by Herbert's music?

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 15 October 2021 01:54 (three days ago) link

Bone Thugs
Mariah Carey
Shania Twain

billstevejim, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:08 (three days ago) link

Oval definitely, Thrill Jockey released Systemisch and 94diskont in the US in 1996 and the influence of those albums has been a constant throughout the following two decades, arguably among the most influential electronic music of the 90s

Theo Parrish and Moodymann both had records out in '96 and their influence has also been a p constant presence, particularly throughout the 10s

I Care Because You Do came out in '96 and I'm guessing has a degree of influence wrt recent breakcore revival stuff (though according to RYM the foundational album there is Christoph de Babalon's If You're Into It, I'm Out of It which came out the following year)

missingNO, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:18 (three days ago) link

Not necessarily influential in 2021, so veering off topic here I guess - These albums were released in 1996 and are considered one of the best of their career:

Belle & Sebastian - if your feeling sinister
Stereolab - emperor tomato ketchup
Dj shadow - endtroducing
UGK - ridin dirty
Ground Zero - 革命京劇 (Revolutionary Pekinese Opera) Ver.1.28
Tortoise - millions now living will never die
Aphex Twin - Richard D James
Ras Kass - soul on ice
Burzum - filosofem
Ryoji Ikeda - +/-
Current 93 - all the pretty little horses
2pac - all eyez on me
Dr Octagon - s/t
Beck - Odelay
Everything but the Girl - walking wounded
Cibo Matto - Viva La Woman
Fugees - The Score
Fiona Apple - Tidal

And that’s all that I can think of right now

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:20 (three days ago) link

Oh wait

Cardigans - first band on the moon
red house painters - songs for a blue guitar
Sun city girls - dantes inferno
Busta Rhymes - the coming
Cat power - what would the community think? (It’s one of her best albums and I wont hear otherwise)

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:24 (three days ago) link

"Crossroads" is the first triplet rapping I can remember.

billstevejim, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:25 (three days ago) link

i mean "Tha Crossroads"

billstevejim, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:26 (three days ago) link

Arto Lindsay - mundo civilizado
Fountains of Wayne - s/t
Jamiroquai - traveling without moving
Cake - fashion nugget
Lamb - s/t
Tricky - nearly god and pre-millenium tension
Tool - Aenima
Aaliyah - one in a million
Sublime - s/t

Actually a pretty busy year now that I think about it… I haven’t started looking into singles yet.

Donna Lewis - I love you always forever was massive this year iirc

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:29 (three days ago) link

Sneaker Pimps - 6 underground also released this year

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:33 (three days ago) link

Maxwell’s Urban Hang Suite

juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:36 (three days ago) link

Are these all artists who are influential in 2021 or is this just a list of stuff from 1996?

billstevejim, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:37 (three days ago) link

I think the latter at this point

juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 15 October 2021 04:41 (three days ago) link

Foxy Brown

I hear Z100 play way too many piano ballads lately so... Jewel "Foolish Games"

billstevejim, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:50 (three days ago) link

Jordan was wondering about 'artists in 1996 that shaped the next 25 years of music' which is a more interesting question than who in 96 is influential specifically right now in anno 2021 which probably hardly anyone tbh

missingNO, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:50 (three days ago) link

Ok well I still think the 5 I listed satisfy both questions.

billstevejim, Friday, 15 October 2021 04:55 (three days ago) link

I actually do think Maxwell’s debut was influential (and continues to be?), fwiw

juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 15 October 2021 05:01 (three days ago) link

(it def. influenced my roommate Matt to smoke out and hook up)

juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 15 October 2021 05:06 (three days ago) link

Bone Thugs otm

J. Sam, Friday, 15 October 2021 05:07 (three days ago) link

We could also start listing 2021 artists that owe an influence to 1996 specifically and it doesn't sound like it'd make the question any easier. Nobody has dated to pair artists or releases yet.
Or maybe just mid/late 90s trends that can be still be heard now ?

Nabozo, Friday, 15 October 2021 07:02 (three days ago) link

Tricky is a really interesting one in that he's one prominent, successful and critically acclaimed artist who virtually no one tried to consciously copy, and who initially seemed like an outlier but whose influence (particularly his approach to vocals) has filtered through into contemporary music in a really diffuse and interesting way. When Billie Eilish cited something off Nearly God as an influence there was a real penny drop moment but I think it had been quietly rumbling on for a few years.

Maybe slightly later in his career but the influence of someone like Elliot Smith is directly audible in the music of people like Phoebe Bridgers. That's a significantly less diffuse one.

In terms of the original thread premise the person who most immediately comes to mind is someone like Todd Edwards, who was turning heads in very specific circles by the mid-90s but whose sound and techniques have impacted right across the contemporary gene pool including artists who would never directly vote him as an influence.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 October 2021 07:58 (three days ago) link

good call on Todd Edwards, similar to Oval insofar as both popularised production techniques that are widely used (ubiquitous in the case of Edwards) by contemporary producers who may be unaware of their exact genesis

missingNO, Friday, 15 October 2021 08:20 (three days ago) link

Billie Eilish is influenced by trip hop… artists like Tricky, Esthero can be heard in her sound.

She makes a case for trip hop from around this period to be influential to a big artist in 2021.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 October 2021 15:28 (three days ago) link

I also hear Jamiroquai in the thousand of “funky” indiepop acts that have been sort of “boutique” music in the past couple of years.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 15 October 2021 15:31 (three days ago) link

I get that some of the artists mentioned here may have echoes in current artists, but it's hard to say that a lot of them shaped the last 25 years

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:07 (three days ago) link

Todd Edwards

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:09 (three days ago) link

The Spice Girls were probably more influential than most here

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:26 (three days ago) link

On that tip, the Backstreet Boys' debut (released ex-US in '96) kind of represents the beginning of the Max Martin Era.

juristic person (morrisp), Friday, 15 October 2021 17:04 (three days ago) link

the spice girls were an anachronism by y2k

missingNO, Friday, 15 October 2021 17:19 (three days ago) link

How about Mase as the godfather of mumble rap?

BrianB, Sunday, 17 October 2021 14:38 (yesterday) link

Three 6 Mafia is probably the best answer

aegis philbin (crüt), Sunday, 17 October 2021 14:45 (yesterday) link

xp Mase is another Class of ’97 artist, no (?)

juristic person (morrisp), Sunday, 17 October 2021 14:50 (yesterday) link

I was just thinking about how puff and mase in particular were criticized around that time for a lack of lyricism, like could they even be called mcs? by conscious rap rockists, in a way that seems almost quaint these days, like axel rose complaining about nirvana in 1992.

BrianB, Sunday, 17 October 2021 15:54 (yesterday) link


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