songs for drella: c/d

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juust purchased. better than i would av thought.

naked as sin (naked as sin), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

'a dream' -
one of the best pieces of music ever ever ever.
dead sad too. fantastic.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

a few spectacular trax, from the more cale end while the reed stuff is... eh.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic. Except for the rather objectionable Lou Reed lyric about wanting to kill the girl who shot Warhol. Ugly.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's a good record. I think maybe it's more collaborative than people think, as in I don't think it's only good because Cale is on it.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Watch the video filmed at the perforamce at St. Ann's in Brooklyn. Oh do I ever wish I was there. Alas I was in high school in VA.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

the style It tAkes is excellent, as is Growing up in a small town (sic?)

"...There's only one good thing about a small town
- you hate it, and you know you have to leave."

chrys sallys, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, there's some great stuff on that one. Open House, Nobody But You, etc. I'm keeping my copy.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 23:39 (seventeen years ago) link

classic. i fight back tears every time i hear lou's deadpan "goodbye, andy" at the end of the record. and john's songs are excellent. makes you wonder what could've been if they'd have kept making music together.

angelo (angelo), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...
YES IT IS GOOD

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link


A Dream
Words and music: Lou Reed & John Cale

It was a very cold clear fall night
I had a terrible dream
Billy Name and Brigid were playing under my stair case on the second floor about two o'clock in the morning

I woke up because Amos and Archie had started barking
That made me very angry because I wasn't feeling well and I told them I was very cross the real me that they just better remember what happened to Sam the bad cat that was left at home and got sick and went pussy heaven

It was a very cold clear fall night
Some snowflakes were falling
Gee, it was so beautiful
and so I went to get my camera to take some pictures
And then I was taking the pictures
but the exposure thing wasn't right
and I was going to call Fred or Gerry
to find out how to get set it
I was too late
and then I remembered they were still probably at dinner
and anyway
I felt really bad and didn't want to talk to anybody
but the snowflakes were so beautiful and real looking
and I really wanted to hold them
And that's when I heard the voices
from down the hall near the stairs
So I got a flashlight
and I was scared and I went out into the hallway
There's been all kinds of troubles
lately in the neighborhood
and someone's got to bring home the bacon and anyway
there were Brigid and Billy playing

And under the stair case
was a little meadow sort of like the park at 23rd street
where all the young kids go and play frisbee
Gee, that must be fun
maybe we should do an article on that in the magazine
but they'll just tell me I'm stupid and it won't sell
but I'll just hold my ground this time, I mean
it's my magazine, isn't it?

So I was thinking that as the snowflakes fell
and I heard those voices having so much fun
Gee, it would be so great to have some fun
So I called Billy
but either he didn't hear me or he didn't want to answer
which was so strange
because
even if I don't like reunions I've always loved Billy
I'm so glad he's working
I mean it's different than Ondine
He keeps touring with those movies
and he doesn't even pay us and the film
I mean the film's just going to disintegrate and then what
I mean he's so normal off of drugs
I just don't get it

And then I saw John Cale
he's been looking really great
He's been coming by the office to exercise with me
Ronnie said I have a muscle
but he's been really mean since he went to AA
I mean what does it mean
when you give up drinking and then you're still so mean
He says I'm being lazy but I'm not
I'm just can't find any ideas
I mean I'm just not
let's face it
going to get any ideas up at the office

And seeing John made me think of the Velvets
and I had been thinking about them
when I was on St. Marks Place
going to that new gallery those sweet new kids have opened
but the thought I was old
and then I saw the old DOM
the old club where we did our first shows
It was so great
And I don't understand about that Velvet's first album
I mean I did the cover
I was the producer
and I always see it repackaged
and I've never gotten a penny from it
How could that be
I should call Henry
but it was good seeing John
I did a cover for him
but I did in black and white and he change it to color
It would have been worth more if he'd left it my way
but you can never tell any body anything I've leaned that

I tried calling again to Billy and John
they wouldn't recognize me it was like I wasn't there
Why won't they let me in

And then I saw Lou
I'm so mad at him
Lou Reed got married and didn't invite me
I mean is it because he thought I'd bring too many people
I don't get it
could have at least called
I mean he's doing so great
Why doesn't he call me?
I saw him at the MTV show
and he was one row away and he didn't even say hello
I don't get it
You know I hate Lou
I really do
He won't even hire us for his videos
And I was proud of him

I was so scared today
There was blood leaking thought my shirt
from those old scars from being shot
And the corset I wear to keep my insides in was hurting
And I did three sets of fifteen pushups
and four sets of ten setups
But then my insides hurt
and I saw drops of blood on my shirt and I remember
the doctors saying I was dead
And then later they had to take blood out of my hand
'couse they ran out or veins
but then
all this thinking was making me an old grouch
and you can't do anything anyway so
if they wouldn't let me play with them in my own dream
I was just going to have to make another
and another
and another
Gee, wouldn't it be funny if I died in this dream
before I could make another one up

And nobody called

And nobody came

Still in my top 20 songs ever list after all these years.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

woooooah. i've not heard this for years. i fucking loved it. listened to a crappy copied cassette non-stop when i was 16. "open house" is the song that sticks in my mind the most.

must buy again. immediately.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

i loved this, too, when it came out, despite expecting the worst somehow.

but i haven't listened to it... well, probably since it came out.

Mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
i've just bought this off iTunes. i am slightly/quite drunk, and escaping a party next door. i haven't heard it since i was ... well, like i said above, about 16.

and i knew nothing about warhol then; simply that i loved this music. which in turn got me into the velvets, which in turn got me into ... well, everything. this will be an interesting journey.

"open house" seems to take me back to, umm, being 16 in a way with which i'm not entirely comfortable. the guitar particularly ;)

aaargh. "you scared yourself with music/i scared myself with paint/i drew 550 different shoes today/it almost made me faint/open house". somehow this lives in a little part of my subconscious.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 27 May 2006 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link

holy fuck. "a dream". jesus wept. you know, some songs just never go away. you hear them, you listen, you think you forget: you don't.

absolutely blinding. this has informed so much of what i've listened to in the last 15 years, and i've never realised.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 28 May 2006 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link

"goodbye andy" indeed.

wow.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 28 May 2006 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

ok i gotta listen to this again stat.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 28 May 2006 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah me too, i haven't for years. the concert version they did was great too. i think i saw it on pbs, around the time the album came out. has that been released on dvd?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 28 May 2006 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
I guess a resounding C then

Adam S S (Zephery), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Bands with no drummer: c/d?

Rat Nasty (ratnasty), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

the answer to my dvd question appears to be no. i can only find listings for it on vhs.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Classic. Except for the rather objectionable Lou Reed lyric about wanting to kill the girl who shot Warhol. Ugly.

-- Lynskey (pau...), November 26th, 2002.


^^^what a priss^^^

shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Becasue it's the best lyric on the record:

I believe
Life's serious enough for retribution
I believe
Being sick is no exucse
I believe
I would have pulled the switch on her myself

(That's how lots of people feel when a dear friend has been assaulted by a wingnut.)

shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Classic. Except for the rather objectionable Lou Reed

Adam S S (Zephery), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

grimley's posts on this thread sum up my relationship to this record. it's part of me, but until i listen to it i just don't realise how deeply a part of me it is. i bought it after seeing the concert version broadcast late night on channel 4.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Lemme throw in with the "A Dream" crowd. I wanna drink a bottle of NyQuil and play this and Nico's "It Was a Pleasure Then" simultaneously for 4 hours.

Hideous Lump (Hideous Lump), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

i was at the st. ann's gig oh so many years ago. pretty swell, even tho i had crap seats up on the side balcony. i should listen to this again, for the first time in 10-12 years(?)

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

woah @ A DREAM 17 years on.

pisces, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

eerie -- I heard this last week. "Nobody But You" and "Style It Takes" are just perfect.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

I just bought this a week ago, and was surprised by how much I liked it, but then, in turn, surprised that I thought I wouldn't like it, and so forth. "Forever Changed" is pretty incredible.

chris.steffen, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 05:07 (twelve years ago) link

Style it Takes (live) on.. snl?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzzgFOLa63A

pisces, Thursday, 16 August 2007 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

pretty sure that clip is from Sanborn's "Night Music" - arguably the best live music show ever broadcast on network TV

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

good record! used to have the "deluxe edition" with a (i think) black velvet cover, but i'll be damned if i know where that went. looooove the version of "Style It Takes" on Cale's Fragments of A Rainy Season. "You want your freedom, make your freedom mine."

tylerw, Thursday, 16 August 2007 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

"Night Music" also hosted a fabulosu Pere Ubu performance of "Breath."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

also Sun Ra, Sonic Youth, etc etc

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

this really was an unbelievable show

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

Show 208

The Pixies
Sun Ra
Syd Straw
Arthur Baker
Al Green
Sister Carol

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 16 August 2007 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

still no dvd for the original film?? going for a fortune on amazon/ebay.

you tube to the rescue! (partly at least)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=songs+for+drella&search=Search

piscesx, Saturday, 5 July 2008 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

Ha! The person who came up with a much better thread title for this was rebuffed! Despicable! Fuck an ILM! At least it wasn't locked, but why post there?

ARRGH! Even Grimly Fiendish knows this one! Holy hell! Grimly? You know this one? I'm surprised.

Come on guys, talk to me about it. I've got the itch. Sometimes lately I just think I could be happy listening to Lou Reed and John Cale forever. That it would be pretty impossible to exhaust the pleasure I could get from those two men, musically. I'm playing "The Dream" for the first time, now, though. I don't think I actually got this far into this album on the bus last time I played it.

Grimly...you know this???

Lucking Faptop (Bimble), Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Images" sets my soul on fire, and the hairs on my arms stand on end. There are people who know what it is to feel passion about music, and there are those who don't. There are people who can write sane, 1000 word essays about music, maybe they are even paid for it, and I respect that because I can't relate to it. I side with those who are speechless.

It reminds me of when the last Kate Bush album came out after 12 long years. Now didn't that separate the men from the boys? Some people said "oh shame on you fuckers for losing your critical faculties" and others said "for god's sake shut the fuck up and listen". You know which side I'm on.

Lucking Faptop (Bimble), Saturday, 11 April 2009 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

bump

(came here to blather about hearing Drella for the first time this weekend...but Bimble's posts say it all so BUMP instead.)

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 5 October 2009 23:11 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the last is a classic Bimble post.

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 October 2009 23:12 (ten years ago) link

one day someone will compile his posts into a Bimble Listener's guide and it will be awesome.

VegemiteGrrrl, Monday, 5 October 2009 23:19 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6L0UD_zn4A

they still look so young here don't they? i love the looks Cale is giving Reed, also how they left the bum notes in.

piscesx, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:06 (nine years ago) link

i guess it's pointless doing a poll for it as A Dream would trounce all the others.

piscesx, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:06 (nine years ago) link

Nah – pretty sure I'd vote for "Style It Takes" or "Small Town."

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:08 (nine years ago) link

yeah, it'd be either "style it takes" or "open house" for me.

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:10 (nine years ago) link

I would have pulled the switch on her myself

buzza, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:10 (nine years ago) link

nine months pass...

cale's "look" in that smalltown video is classic.

jed_, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 20:31 (eight years ago) link

this was one of the first cds i ever purchased. i first got into the velvets and then into this album so i did not find it as amazing as others on this thread (even compared to "loaded"). i liked it a lot though and haven't listened to it for 15 years or more. this was much more like a velvet reunion than the live reunion they did a couple of years later which was rubbish. favourite song, several ones, john cale's "style it takes" of course but i also liked lou reed's straightforward "work" for some reason. quite primitive and simple but i have a soft spot for that kind of strong, puritan working attitude as it is something i lack so much. overall this album is quite consistent and an absolute classic. i have to listen to it again.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:05 (eight years ago) link

I got this album as part of my Columbia Music Club 12 CDs for a $1 deal as a teenager

satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:06 (eight years ago) link

btw i found the next lou reed album "magic and loss" even more impressive. there was a thread on it somewhere. that music has got a soul healing quality. for the listener and even more so for the artist. it was about the death of two friends of lou reed. i always thought they had had aids but according to wikipedia they hadn't.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:18 (eight years ago) link

some of the best lou reed albums seem to be the ones he wrote about deceased friends.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 21:21 (eight years ago) link

been listening to some lou records i haven't heard on spotify

wow

this is really amazing

i didn't suspect he'd done anything this vital since the 70s

little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:27 (eight years ago) link

it really is a nice (and unique) record. sort of too bad these two dudes can't just get together every couple of years and do this kind of thing -- they've obviously got chemistry working in their favor. but they've got a lot of nasty history too i guess.

tylerw, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:36 (eight years ago) link

yeah backing track sounds like stars of the lid or something.
when i saw lou in the early 90s he did this one! it was pretty great.

tylerw, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:54 (eight years ago) link

i like this record because it feels like sort of a little record, somehow u don't demand evenness or shit like that, it makes u generous

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 22:56 (eight years ago) link

I can't listen to Magic and Loss beyond the obvious cuts. Whenever he essays a Serious Project, a disinterest or at worst cynicism seeps through.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:10 (eight years ago) link

also am i rite that cale obviously slays reed on this, even tho he claims reed did all the work

zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:16 (eight years ago) link

the best songs are cale songs but they all would've been worse w/o lou

iatee, Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:18 (eight years ago) link

i dunno, i'm liking both of their songs

lou's maybe never seemed more human than on this

little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:20 (eight years ago) link

They're both in top form.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 August 2011 23:21 (eight years ago) link

I'm with Zvookster - Cale all the way on this. But I'm biased, I've simply never gotten into Lou despite many visitations.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 26 August 2011 00:03 (eight years ago) link

I just listened to this for the first time in my life. I'm a Cale devotee, Reed skeptic but this is a damn, damn good effort from both.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 26 August 2011 19:26 (eight years ago) link

Oh, and I just visited the Andy Warhol museum in Pittsburgh, some of these tunes played in my head.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:11 (eight years ago) link

This album is better than any of their solo records.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:28 (eight years ago) link

whoa whoa

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:30 (eight years ago) link

It's better than any Cale project released after 1990 though, true.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:30 (eight years ago) link

This album is better than any of their (post-70s) solo records.

iatee, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:32 (eight years ago) link

This album is better than anything recorded by the Velvet Underground.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:35 (eight years ago) link

eh, for me it's probably on par w/ blue mask, music for a new society, new york, wrong way up, etc. which is really good, but let's not get carried away here.

tylerw, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:38 (eight years ago) link

this is a good album but it isn't even close to either of their peaks both solo and with VU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5X_UfhROI
here's lou's solo take on a dream

tylerw, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:42 (eight years ago) link

pretty bad hair period for lou

tylerw, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:42 (eight years ago) link

more loss than magic certainly

zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:43 (eight years ago) link

pretty bad hair period for lou

this is ultimately why SFD is a good-not-great record.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:45 (eight years ago) link

Love the non-80s production on this and New York.

The Pocket Rebecca de Mornay (Eazy), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:49 (eight years ago) link

i went into a big new york phase a couple months ago...those first three tracks are so good it almost fools you into thinking it's a classic

little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 August 2011 20:52 (eight years ago) link

yeah that is probably otm. it is a nicely produced record -- really doesn't sound super-dated, at least as opposed to Mistrial.

tylerw, Friday, 26 August 2011 20:53 (eight years ago) link

no the band sounds good, but the second half? yikes, just dire condescending preachy lou at his worst

but i like romeo had juliette > halloween parade > dirty blvd as much as any three song run in anything lou did, velvets included

little dog (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 August 2011 21:01 (eight years ago) link

yeah ugh that album quickly wears out its welcome. maybe it shoulda been an EP lol

someone really needs to sign up for a VU solo album poll

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 02:56 (eight years ago) link

I already got my poll done wit but I think it would be fantastic

iatee, Saturday, 27 August 2011 02:57 (eight years ago) link

i went into a big new york phase a couple months ago...those first three tracks are so good it almost fools you into thinking it's a classic

and "There is No Time," a political song for every betrayal.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2011 03:00 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

if you don't like it
Y O U S U C K

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGtznW_-IBQ&feature=related

piscesx, Saturday, 3 March 2012 06:43 (eight years ago) link

70 years old! keep on.

jed_, Saturday, 3 March 2012 12:32 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

I have this cranked up today. Really missing Lou, and this is so beautiful. I remember it coming out and thinking, well that sucks, and now I think it would be in my all time top 10 albums.

MatthewK, Saturday, 30 July 2016 05:44 (four years ago) link

yeah a Top 10 for me no question.

piscesx, Saturday, 30 July 2016 13:33 (four years ago) link

it was one of the first cds i bought. not top ten but probably top 100.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 8 August 2016 12:01 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

God, after all these years, 'A Dream' is still so damn beautiful and affecting, I wish for a 200-hour audiobook of Cale reading The Warhol Diaries in that wistful, monotone voice.

MaresNest, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:21 (one year ago) link

I still find Smalltown quite short and sweet.

calzino, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:47 (one year ago) link

I love this album, but haven’t listened to it in probably 25 years... really ought to rectify that

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:50 (one year ago) link

bought it in a bin sale this Record Store Day. it's pretty good, and certainly heartfelt.

Ludo, Sunday, 2 June 2019 19:51 (one year ago) link

There's a really good live Drella bootleg knocking about *with an audience* from Tokyo; it's amazing but disconcerting at the same time; applause and whoops randomly throughout etc. It's such a sombre piece in the main that it's odd hearing any interaction at all.
They come on at the end to do Pale Blue Eyes and it's pretty incredible.

This is an.. interesting version of A Dream too; an unusual choice of encore from a '92 Magic And Loss tour show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5X_UfhROI

piscesx, Monday, 3 June 2019 00:30 (one year ago) link

I love this album, but haven’t listened to it in probably 25 years... really ought to rectify that

exactly the same with me, it took me some time to get into it at the time but then i found it to be one of his best.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 14:00 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

I fucking love this record, and the performance video, so much. The emotional complexity of those two guys with that history and that much baggage, doing something so personal by making such art.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:37 (one week ago) link

Incredible, totally. There's a really good bootleg from Tokyo knocking around; it's odd to hear live reaction throughout, but totally worth a listen. They do the whole album, then Pale Blue Eyes as an encore at the end, and the roof sounds like it's going to come off.

piscesx, Thursday, 30 July 2020 13:55 (one week ago) link


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