Ridiculously incorrect beliefs you had about music and musicians while growing up

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1) my friend brought a John Coltrane tape with on a car trip. I had heard the name but thought he was a blues artist from the 30s

2) I thought rave mixtapes contained music made solely by the person who turned out to just be the dj. I also had no idea how the music was created. I had heard that, for instance, Terry Mullan (again, a dj not a producer) had obtained a super rare "acid box", a piece of equipment I assumed was from the 70s, was analog, and was the size of a refrigerator.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

I used to think everything on a CD was actually played live in the studio. It blew my mind to find out everyone was just playing their parts separately. Like I thought Sting just brought in some session singers who sounded just like him to do the backup vocals.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 19:18 (two weeks ago) link

All three of the Beastie Boys died of drug overdoses sometime shortly after their first album became huge. RIP.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 19:18 (two weeks ago) link

3) I thought all harmonized guitar leads were one solitary guitar player using a "harmonizer" effects pedals and didn't realize two guitars playing harmonic parts at the same time also sounded like that (I was 14 and partially listening to my dumb friend, who suggested this)

4) I thought no death vocals were real and all done with digital pitch-shifting effects

5) I thought the singer on "Holding Back the Years" was a black woman and not Mick Hucknall

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:13 (two weeks ago) link

6) I heard about Iggy Pop long before actually seeing or hearing him and I imagined that he would be flamboyantly costumed like Kiss. Something to do with confusing "Iggy" with "Ozzy", both outrageous characters in my mind.

visiting, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:26 (two weeks ago) link

i also thought all recordings were done live in real time with no overdubs, in the same order they appear on the album. i felt cheated when i discovered otherwise. i assumed the music in music videos was recorded live along with the visuals except when that was obviously impossible in which case i assumed there were just a few overdubs

slightly older i thought that combining the right music with the right substances in the right environment could unlock the secret of existence or some such bullshit, a pretty common teenage thing that i wish i didn't sometimes wish i could still believe

Left, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:33 (two weeks ago) link

I thought there was a long, slow, and orderly progression in rock/pop of the 60s and 70s - first in the early/mid 60s the beatles came along, did their thing and then broke up, then the stones had a few years, then the who appeared, then maybe pink floyd, etc.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:37 (two weeks ago) link

An ex of mine grew up thinking that the Beatles played all the instruments on their records - eg Paul played the piccolo solo on 'Penny Lane'.

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:38 (two weeks ago) link

I used to think that the names after a song in brackets on a record sleeve or label were some kind of indication of the relative prominence of these group members on the recording, rather than the songwriting credits.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:40 (two weeks ago) link

i also thought all recordings were done live in real time with no overdubs

I legit got upset when I first heard "U Can't Touch This" cos there's one part where Hammer talks over himself and I couldn't figure it out

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:45 (two weeks ago) link

i thought that you could separate out/combine individual tracks- guitar, bass, drum, vocals- by how deep or shallow the headphone was in the the CD player's jack. first is drums, then you can hear the guitars + drums, then guitar+drums+vocals. tbf for some CDs this actually kind of did work

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:48 (two weeks ago) link

That does work. I can't remember what you call that effect.

"Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:54 (two weeks ago) link

Not exactly how you described it though!

"Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:55 (two weeks ago) link

well i'm going to tell my 14 year old brother he was wrong, then

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:55 (two weeks ago) link

that Peter Frampton licked peanut butter out of his armpits

sleeve, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:57 (two weeks ago) link

(xp) I think you lose (much of) the centre part of the stereo spectrum. I used to do it all the time and you can do with it speakers too, but I've forgotten how.

"Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 20:59 (two weeks ago) link

I thought the singer on "Holding Back the Years" was a black woman and not Mick Hucknall

Similarly, my mental image of Rick Astley was closer to Aaron Neville. When I saw the music video, I thought they used a little white kid as a joke

Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:05 (two weeks ago) link

Mistaken beliefs about music you had when you were younger

visiting, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:05 (two weeks ago) link

I remember when R.E.M.'s 'The One I Love" was rereleased a friend's older brother told me that it was originally recorded by their older brothers in the band The Cult, under its original title of 'Fire'

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:09 (two weeks ago) link

I think this is a common one but I thought the Grateful Dead were going to be like Black Sabbath/Priest early metal stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:11 (two weeks ago) link

i thought live albums were inherently better than studio recordings because the former had no overdubs, which were ‘cheating’

basically wrong on every possible level

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:19 (two weeks ago) link

When I was about 4 I thought that when I played a 7" the singer was in a vocal booth somewhere singing it to me live. I must have seen film of someone in a recording studio on Blue Peter or whatever, hence my knowledge of what they looked like.

john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:27 (two weeks ago) link

^finally, a truly "ridiculous" one!

Shallot Shortage 2021 (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:30 (two weeks ago) link

(xp) I think you lose (much of) the centre part of the stereo spectrum. I used to do it all the time and you can do with it speakers too, but I've forgotten how.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Phase_Stereo

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:34 (two weeks ago) link

I used to think that the names after a song in brackets on a record sleeve or label were some kind of indication of the relative prominence of these group members on the recording, rather than the songwriting credits.

This was actually true on e.g. early Beatles albums, they’d say who took lead vocals on a song - “Roll Over Beethoven (George)” etc.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 21:54 (two weeks ago) link

And also whether they were double-tracked!

Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 22:06 (two weeks ago) link

I used to think everything on a CD was actually played live in the studio. It blew my mind to find out everyone was just playing their parts separately. Like I thought Sting just brought in some session singers who sounded just like him to do the backup vocals.

― frogbs, Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:18 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

It was on a hike down Old Rag with my Boy Scout troop. My best friend and I were enthusing over the virtues of heavy metal bands like Motley Crue, who played their instruments live in the studio, compared to the phony pop stars like Paula Abdul who used overdubs. I don't know why we were so certain about these facts or if we even had a full understanding of what we meant. But his dad was hiking with us that day and took us down a few notches.

peace, man, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 22:25 (two weeks ago) link

i also thought all recordings were done live in real time with no overdubs, in the same order they appear on the album

I wondered how they did the fade-outs.

That rock stars all learned their instruments the way you learn in music schools, reading notes from the Hal Leonard books.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 22:49 (two weeks ago) link

Actually they all learned from Mel Bay books.

Josefa, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 22:58 (two weeks ago) link

When I saw those cheap Casio keyboards with buttons like "flute" and "guitar" and "violin," I assumed pretty all music was played with those, and that the original instruments were no longer necessary. (Kinda prescient, in a way)

Re: Mel Bay, my grandfather played with him as a duo (guitar/mandolin)

Robert Cray-Cray (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 23:04 (two weeks ago) link

Damn! Legend in the game

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 23:14 (two weeks ago) link

Based on album cover photos, that bands all had a fabulous time hanging out with each other.

that's not my post, Thursday, 2 September 2021 00:18 (two weeks ago) link

i thought macy gray was british for an embarrassingly long time b/c when the song was a hit here in the states someone i know who was from england mentioned that it had already been a hit over there

dyl, Thursday, 2 September 2021 00:41 (two weeks ago) link

For a long time I thought The Pointer Sisters “jump for my love” was Kenny Loggins singing

brimstead, Thursday, 2 September 2021 00:47 (two weeks ago) link

At an age where pretty much everything I knew about the music industry came from sources like "Some of Your Friends are Already This Fucked", I had the vague yet terrifying sense that signing a record contract and never recouping your advance meant that you'd end up in some sort of hellish, lifelong peonage instead of just not getting to make any more records.

swim, Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:08 (two weeks ago) link

Xpost I was somewhat older than I'd like to admit when I found out Sparks weren't British

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:10 (two weeks ago) link

I thought there were no 'one hit wonders' before the 1980s.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:10 (two weeks ago) link

Also that you needed to be able to write standard music notation in order to compose songs

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:14 (two weeks ago) link

I was somewhat older than I'd like to admit when I found out Sparks weren't British

I found this out this morning. I may have known at one point and forgotten it, though; that's increasingly common.

And, yeah, it obv makes sense that if you start learning from the Hal Leonard (or Mel Bay) books, you'd be writing your shit down on staff paper by the time you become a rock star.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:23 (two weeks ago) link

I wasn't even that young - nearly an adult - when I believed that a band's lyrical output corresponded with their real-life behaviour and preoccupations, so a band whose lyrics dealt mostly with sexual matters must be raving priapists. I remember being concerned about a girl in high-school whose godfather was apparently [the Scottish lead singer of a famous Australian hard rock group]. Just on the basis of the words he sang, I pictured him walking into the room and treating every female he saw like Monty Python's Dirty Vicar.
Some of this prejudice remains in that I'm distrustful of acts whose lyricists focus obsessively on specific topics like cars, robots or corpse mutilation, in favour of those who explore more broad and diverse areas.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:23 (two weeks ago) link

Not me, I was a jaded soul...but one summer I did tell my little sister that "the lady in Missing Persons" was going to be her 1st grade teacher and she was sorely disappointed when school started!

None of the shame you guys feel compares to the guilt I feel about my evil teenage self.

Night of Olay: The Resurrection (I M Losted), Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:28 (two weeks ago) link

I thought all radio was freeform and disc jockeys always played whatever they felt like.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:37 (two weeks ago) link

I was almost the opposite. I was a little surprised when it turned out that a lot of rock stars who sang about intoxication and casual promiscuity were in fact just drug and sex addicts. I'd sort of just assumed it was metaphor and imagination. (I mean, surely they were spending their time practising scales and writing down music.)xp

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:38 (two weeks ago) link

(I mean, surely they were spending their time practising scales and writing down music.)

Lol

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:43 (two weeks ago) link

This gets at an idea that's been rattling around in my head for a while now, which is that no artist has a richer or more exemplary relationship with the cultural shift of the last 30ish years from audiences needing to believe that artists are bad people to audiences needing to believe that artists are good people than Insane Clown Posse.

swim, Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:54 (two weeks ago) link

I assumed all musicians were always dressed immaculately, a drink in hand, looking out the floor to ceiling windows of their penthouse suite (they're in a big city of course... it's raining... neon signs, etc...). They spend all their time with interesting people only and talk about art and philosophy exclusively.

This was the effect of mainlining imagery and/or music from Japan, ABC, Roxy Music, etc... before my brain knew what to do with the information. Oh to be that innocent again...

mr.raffles, Thursday, 2 September 2021 01:56 (two weeks ago) link

I thought there were live drums on Endtroducing and drove myself crazy trying to figure out how to play like that.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 2 September 2021 02:05 (two weeks ago) link

This was the effect of mainlining imagery and/or music from Japan, ABC, Roxy Music, etc... before my brain knew what to do with the information. Oh to be that innocent again...

― mr.raffles, Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:56 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

sometime on ilx someone called stuff in this vein "silk bathrobe music"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 September 2021 02:06 (two weeks ago) link

that scans

mr.raffles, Thursday, 2 September 2021 02:10 (two weeks ago) link

i thought macy gray was british for an embarrassingly long time b/c when the song was a hit here in the states someone i know who was from england mentioned that it had already been a hit over there

― dyl, Wednesday, September 1, 2021 7:41 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

The first time I saw Brad Mehldau live, sitting in the Village Vanguard before the show I said to the person I was with “I think he’s British” - then simultaneously realized it had come out way louder than I meant and that he was sitting two tables away in obvious earshot. Then shortly after he was on stage and spoke to the audience in a very clearly American accent.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 2 September 2021 02:35 (two weeks ago) link

We were strumming along
To Beetlebum

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 9 September 2021 01:53 (one week ago) link

I thought John Cale and JJ Cale were the same person

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 9 September 2021 02:28 (one week ago) link

There is an extremely niche gimmick cover band concept somewhere in there

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 September 2021 03:02 (one week ago) link

JJ Cale J

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:22 (one week ago) link

A Child's Cocaine Christmas in Queens

henry s, Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:41 (one week ago) link

I thought, when listening to Sting and having little other pop music to compare it with, that Sting had this really clever technique of coming up with a catchy contrasting section of his songs. I knew about sonata form, but not verse/chorus.

raven, Thursday, 9 September 2021 12:59 (one week ago) link

I once thought Rick Grech was somehow connected to Gretsch guitars and/or Gretsch drums.

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 September 2021 13:03 (one week ago) link

Wait, he wasn’t?

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 September 2021 13:37 (one week ago) link

For a brief period when I was about 8, I thought guitar solos were played on special instruments called "air guitars."

obvious, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:34 (one week ago) link

oooh that's a good one, I didn't think that per se, but definitely heard the expression "air guitar" and thought it was an instrument for a number of years before I understood what it meant

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:43 (one week ago) link

Me too

Alba, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:02 (one week ago) link

No lie, I thought the "air guitar" was specifically the talk box guitar that Peter Frampton used. You blew air into the tube to make it work, hence "air guitar".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:04 (one week ago) link

Did your elementary schools not have air band competitions?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:08 (one week ago) link

Nope, but I still learned how incorrect I was in middle school.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:10 (one week ago) link

A Child's Cocaine Christmas in Queens

― henry s

(Over 'Venus in Furs') "He's had quite a strange career, he also wrote 'Cocaine', the Eric Clapton song..."

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:15 (one week ago) link

When I was maybe 10, I heard the son of one of my parents' friends play bass at their house. He played the breakdown from Metallica's Orion and I was absolutely blown away. I stewed over it for a month or two before deciding to make a big announcement to my dad: "I want to play bass! Do you know what bass guitar sounds like? I've got a great song right here." And I proceed to play a cassette of Guns 'n' Roses Sweet Child of Mine. Cue Slash's intro lick: "You hear that? THAT'S bass guitar!" "That's not bass guitar," says dad, to my immediate confusion and embarrassment. A few seconds later the rest of the band kicks in, along with Duff McKagan's equally iconic bassline. "THAT'S bass guitar."

I think that there are certain melodic similarities between the Orion bass line and the SCOM intro and maybe I got confused there. Or maybe it had something to do with Slash's tone.

Anyway, my dad's little brother had played bass in a rock band during high school and college, so I was not going to be fooling him! Lesson much appreciated, dad.

peace, man, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:18 (one week ago) link

It also didn't help that I listened to most music on a cheap little boombox, so I didn't hear much of the bass frequencies anyway. During the incident above, I had brought my tape downstairs to dad's larger stereo system.

peace, man, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:21 (one week ago) link

but this amp melts FACES, dood

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:38 (one week ago) link

omg that whole contretemps was fifteen years ago.

it is older than my oldest child

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:54 (one week ago) link

i thought when a band was named after a member of the band (as opposed to a solo artist) that the guy was an asshole

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 September 2021 22:44 (one week ago) link

I still think that, mostly.

emil.y, Thursday, 9 September 2021 23:10 (one week ago) link

There must be a note that feels better than any other to end a song or piece on. I have to test them on the piano, both singly, and with simple tunes.

**time passes**

It's probably E. A tune should preferably end on an E.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 10 September 2021 00:28 (one week ago) link

I thought electric guitars were mains powered via the lead, I think based on hearing a story about a guitarist being electrocuted onstage because it rained or something

bovarism, Friday, 10 September 2021 19:27 (one week ago) link

^^^ seems almost certain that i thought this at some point

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 10 September 2021 19:48 (one week ago) link

I thought, when listening to Sting and having little other pop music to compare it with, that Sting had this really clever technique of coming up with a catchy contrasting section of his songs. I knew about sonata form, but not verse/chorus.
― raven, Thursday, 9 September 2021 13:59

This is staggering.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 10 September 2021 19:54 (one week ago) link

I was also told the story about the Stone the Crows guy getting zapped on stage and was prang about playing outside for years

(the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Friday, 10 September 2021 20:16 (one week ago) link

Raven, where did you grow up that you knew sonata form before hearing any verse-chorus songs like "Jingle Bells" or "Oh Susanna"?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Friday, 10 September 2021 21:24 (one week ago) link

I was also told the story about the Stone the Crows guy getting zapped on stage and was prang about playing outside for years

Did you hear the one about Nick Lowe getting electrocuted when he touched his mic?

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 September 2021 21:40 (one week ago) link

I could have sworn a young singer/pianist died onstage in france in the past month or so, but I can't for the life of me find a news story about it. Pretty sure it wasn't Barbara Weldens either.

peace, man, Friday, 10 September 2021 21:56 (one week ago) link

Wait, nevermind. It was totally her. I must have got linked to it as a news story and thought it was recent.

peace, man, Friday, 10 September 2021 21:57 (one week ago) link

Let us not forget Beef from The Phantom of the Paradise as well.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 September 2021 22:08 (one week ago) link

Eryl also remembers the night that Kippington Lodge came dangerously close to losing their bass player. In addition to the ballroom tours backing artists such as Billie Davis and J. J. Jackson, the group’s most prestigious live work was their regular support slot at London’s Marquee Club. On 5 July 1969, just a few hours after the Rolling Stones had performed their famous free concert in Hyde Park, the Kippingtons opened for the organ-based trio, Village, at the Marquee. ‘Nick got electrocuted while playing,’ recalls Eryl. ‘He fell down, writhing on the stage. Faulty wiring was blamed.’

‘I had one hand on my bass strings and the other reaching for the mic, and about to say, “How’re ya doing, London?” says Nick. ‘But as soon as I grasped the mic, a circuit was created and I was in big trouble. According to witnesses, I leapt about four feet in the air and was flung across the stage where I crashed into the amps and lay writhing and twitching on the floor, unable to let go of either my bass or the mic. In my head, I knew exactly what had happened. It was very unpleasant but I was strangely calm. I couldn’t see anything – it was like looking through frosted glass. All I could hear was a deep electronic drone note.

Birch, Will. Cruel to Be Kind (pp. 60-61)

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 September 2021 22:15 (one week ago) link

Here's another misconception that I only corrected about 10 years ago. I was browsing in a record store, picked up the 1971 record by McDonald and Giles, and was shocked to see that the store had put on a sticker to the effect of: "Hey DJs! Great breakbeat!"
See, I was naive enough to believe that if someone sampled a record as relatively obscure as McDonald and Giles, it was because they were King Crimson or prog superfans, not because a sticker in a record store had alerted them to the existence of a breakbeat on the record. I was also naive enough to be surprised that a record store would thus cater to people who make music from samples rather than "real music fans", i.e. people who look for the meaning of life in a McDonald and Giles LP.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 11 September 2021 15:18 (one week ago) link

Interesting.

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 September 2021 15:24 (one week ago) link

That Nick Lowe story is amazing :o. xp

(the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Saturday, 11 September 2021 15:25 (one week ago) link

gimme the breakbeats
and free my soul
I wanna get lost
in some neo-soul

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 September 2021 15:28 (one week ago) link

I crashed into the amps and lay writhing and twitching on the floor, unable to let go of either my bass or the mic.

I'd always wondered what inspired the the couplet in "So It Goes", "He got fifty thousand watts / In a big acoustic tower". Now I know!

Vast Halo, Saturday, 11 September 2021 21:01 (one week ago) link

Ha, never made that connection before!

What Does Blecch Mean to Me? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 September 2021 21:02 (one week ago) link

Neither had he, apparently

Josefa, Saturday, 11 September 2021 21:46 (one week ago) link

I also never knew Nick Lowe's main source of income is The Bodyguard soundtrack

Spikevax, the beloved entertainer (Lee626), Saturday, 11 September 2021 21:55 (one week ago) link

<blockquote> Raven, where did you grow up that you knew sonata form before hearing any verse-chorus songs like "Jingle Bells" or "Oh Susanna"?

― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 September 2021 7:24 AM</blockquote>

I mean, I must have heard plenty of songs with verse/chorus before mustn't I?
I think I just didn't actually engage until a certain point, and I'd already learnt some kind of music theory.
I was naïve but I was also hella young. I was late to "pop music" and voraciously accelerated - Sting/The Police was the starting point of actual fandom I think.

raven, Sunday, 12 September 2021 10:24 (six days ago) link

<blockquote>Raven, where did you grow up that you knew sonata form before hearing any verse-chorus songs like "Jingle Bells" or "Oh Susanna"?

― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 September 2021 7:24 AM</blockquote>

I mean, I must have heard plenty of songs with verse/chorus before mustn't I?
I think I just didn't actually engage until a certain point, and I'd already learnt some kind of music theory.
I was naïve but I was also hella young. I was late to "pop music" and voraciously accelerated - Sting/The Police was the starting point of actual fandom I think.

Ugh forgot BBcode.

raven, Sunday, 12 September 2021 10:26 (six days ago) link

The Police were especially good at bringing out a strong contrast between verse and chorus tbf.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 September 2021 13:02 (six days ago) link

I remember conflating the various Van Zan(d)ts. Like, there was one who was dead, one or more who were alive. And somehow one played with Bruce Springsteen, presumably one of the alive ones.

I'm not sure at what point I heard of Townes Van Zandt, but I probably tried to fit him into the same overall Van Zystem.

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 12 September 2021 14:08 (six days ago) link

I used to think that 'Trad. Arr.' on song credits was an actual person's name, or possibly a writing duo.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Sunday, 12 September 2021 15:28 (six days ago) link

Or a pirate.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 12 September 2021 15:35 (six days ago) link

Led Zeppelin used to think songs that were written by 20th century musicians were 'standards'

you had me at "giallo" (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 September 2021 16:54 (six days ago) link

(xp) sea shanties

How does Spock's brain come into this? (Tom D.), Sunday, 12 September 2021 17:12 (six days ago) link


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