Mercury Prize 2021 - Are Mogwai the new Gaz?

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Poll Closing Date: Wednesday, 8 September 2021 00:00 (in 1 month)

https://www.mercuryprize.com/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57913364
https://pitchfork.com/news/mercury-prize-2021-shortlist-floating-points-and-pharoah-sanders-mogwai-more/

Arlo Parks: Collapsed in Sunbeams
Berwyn: Demotape/Vega
Black Country, New Road: For the First Time…
Celeste: Not Your Muse
Floating Points / Pharoah Sanders / The London Symphony Orchestra: Promises
Ghetts: Conflict of Interest
Hannah Peel: Fir Wave
Laura Mvula: Pink Noise
Mogwai: As the Love Continues
Nubya Garcia: Source
Sault: Untitled (Rise)
Wolf Alice: Blue Weekend


A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 July 2021 13:34 (one week ago) link

voted for blue weekend but i love several records on this list

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 July 2021 13:44 (one week ago) link

nubya garcia, love that record. sault, floating points/pharoah, and wolf alice all worthy.

adam, Thursday, 22 July 2021 13:49 (one week ago) link

awards are stupid, the Mercury is super stupid, Ghetts album is good, no Sons of Kemet or Pa Salieu - YES IT COUNTS FUCK OFF - renders this pointless exercise pointlesser, lol Mogwai, says it all

Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:27 (one week ago) link

Noodle Vague has weighed in, sorry guys, pack it up.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:28 (one week ago) link

how dare anyone over 30 get nominated for awards

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:32 (one week ago) link

NV voting for Ghetts then

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:36 (one week ago) link

Celeste album has some good songs on it but that big single is ugggh and i can't tell if it was always ugggh or if it's been advertised to death but probably both

Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:40 (one week ago) link

I wouldn't be upset if the Floating Points/Pharaoh Sanders record one, Sanders deserves to get all the accolades he can gather while he's around to enjoy them, even if I don't think it's the best album nominated (that would be Sault with, Mogwai (gasp!) a distant second).

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:44 (one week ago) link

Arlo will win this probably

nashwan, Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:47 (one week ago) link

NV likely otm, but the answer is Nubya Garcia

rob, Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:17 (one week ago) link

SAULT.

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:22 (one week ago) link

Really enjoyed both Garcia and Floating Points/Sanders.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:33 (one week ago) link

i haven't heard the Garcia yet i'd imagine she's in with a shout of being best thing on here

mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:01 (one week ago) link

would be cool if the gwai won because it would be the most annoying result

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:12 (one week ago) link

well yeah certainly the funniest

mogwai oh wai oh wai (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:15 (one week ago) link

wolf alice should've been a band name in 2005

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:17 (one week ago) link

wish I could vote for them twice

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:19 (one week ago) link

i should really want Mogwai to win and would be delighted if they did but haven't heard it.

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 July 2021 17:50 (one week ago) link

I'll probably never listen to it but I'd imagine it has a lot of "shimmering guitars"

MoMsnet (calzino), Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:12 (one week ago) link

i should really want Mogwai to win and would be delighted if they did but haven't heard it.

― stirmonster, Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:50 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The "I quite like them but I haven't heard their latest album" kind of sums up my relationship to Mogwai! That said, I got irritated by the "Get them to No 1" campaign, for some reason.

djh, Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:26 (one week ago) link

lol, I quite like them but fuck them for being rewarded with success, right?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:27 (one week ago) link

Ha! I'm not sure it was this, really.

djh, Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:34 (one week ago) link

Just bugs me when people shit on generally non-objectionable band when it comes to markers of success. I mean, yes, all of the "get them to No 1" campaigns are kind of silly, but seeing how genuinely thrilled and appreciative the guys in Mogwai were made me happy for them. Honestly they've been plugging away for so long and being, at the very least, a very good band for much of that time that I'm thankful for them to get more recognition.

It rankles to see people complain about how artists aren't appreciated enough but suddenly are more than happy to take potshots at any of them that achieve markers of "mainstream" success.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:53 (one week ago) link

Mogwai are from Hamilton, and it's awesome to have someone from my town on there.

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:55 (one week ago) link

stuart braithwaite, paul mcstay and me. the most illustrious holy cross alumni

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 22 July 2021 18:59 (one week ago) link

Stuart Braithwaite went to Hutchesons afaik

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:07 (one week ago) link

really? posho. gone off them now

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:08 (one week ago) link

actually wiki says strathaven academy, that's fine then

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:12 (one week ago) link

aye but that bloody Pharoah Sanders was a public school boy I hear.

MoMsnet (calzino), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:14 (one week ago) link

His mum was my mates GP and said he definitely went to hutchesons. But who knows

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:16 (one week ago) link

Its not really important or anything,and its only hearsay, but it would be funny after them hating Blur for being posh it turned out he was.

Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:19 (one week ago) link

I'm surprised they didn't include any of the hyped up post-punk bands who seem to be a big deal at the moment. I thought Squid, Dry Cleaning, Black Midi or Shame might be on there.

Voted for Wolf Alice just ahead of Laura Mvula.

kitchen person, Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:26 (one week ago) link

black country new road kinda fit into that milieu though they're certainly the worst of them

voted for wolf alice but sault & floating points are both close behind.

pa salieu really should have been here though wtf

ufo, Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:31 (one week ago) link

Oh right, I guess I haven't heard Black Country New Road properly. Dry Cleaning are the only ones I'd have been happy to see here.

kitchen person, Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:34 (one week ago) link

I'm surprised they didn't include any of the hyped up post-punk bands who seem to be a big deal at the moment. I thought Squid, Dry Cleaning, Black Midi or Shame might be on there.

Same here, I was definitely expecting to see Dry Cleaning or Black Midi on there. At first I wondered if it was a release date cut off thing, but based on their criteria, that's not it:

Albums released between 18 July 2020 and 16 July 2021 (inclusive) are eligible for the 2021 Hyundai Mercury Prize.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:35 (one week ago) link

x-posts: Just for clarity, I wasn't taking pot shots at Mogwai for being successful more acknowledging the oddity of quite liking them/not getting round to properly hearing their album that seems acclaimed.

djh, Thursday, 22 July 2021 19:52 (one week ago) link

Mogwai have talked so much shite over the years about not being sellouts so it's kinda funny they had to beg celebs to retweet them to try and get to no 1 but whatever works

PaulTMA, Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:10 (one week ago) link

the blur-hating was just trolling, they were headlining different stages at the same night of the same festival or sth, this was around the same time they got officially sponsored by Kappa to annoy their own fans

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:12 (one week ago) link

I honestly had no idea they were still together and releasing new material, let alone that they got to #1 due to some campaign (??). They were always OK iirc.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:13 (one week ago) link

Like, it always seemed to me like music that was obvious and easy to write if you had heard the same records they had, but usually still nice? "Fear Satan" a highlight.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:16 (one week ago) link

Haven't heard anything since Mr Beast, though.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:17 (one week ago) link

Its not really important or anything,and its only hearsay, but it would be funny after them hating Blur for being posh it turned out he was.

― Pfunkboy AKA (Oor Neechy)

They hated blur for being shite iirc

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:21 (one week ago) link

I mean, it's definitely not unique to ilx, but I'm surprised sometimes by how many people haven't listened to recent Mogwai records and assum they are still all recreating the dramatic crescendo post-rock thing. I mean, they definitely do still have some of those, but they've also widened their approach pretty significantly over the years.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:34 (one week ago) link

I haven't heard anything since rock action lol

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:40 (one week ago) link

I wish Mogwai’s music was more dark, I love some of the early stuff

brimstead, Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:57 (one week ago) link

Like, it always seemed to me like music that was obvious and easy to write if you had heard the same records they had, but usually still nice?

Yeah, YT was revelatory to me at the time in showing what it's possible to do with no ideas.

The thing they were good at was zeroing in on these little throwaway cells and phrases and blowing them up to a monumental scale. There was a sense of discovery about it, like seeing microscopic life forms englarged.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 22 July 2021 21:01 (one week ago) link

I mean, it's definitely not unique to ilx, but I'm surprised sometimes by how many people haven't listened to recent Mogwai records and assum they are still all recreating the dramatic crescendo post-rock thing. I mean, they definitely do still have some of those, but they've also widened their approach pretty significantly over the years.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, July 22, 2021 1:34 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they seem to have switched things up a little after mr beast. nevertheless none of the more recent albums have grabbed me, mind you.

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 22 July 2021 21:08 (one week ago) link

I watched the Vic Galloway stuff in iPlayer when the album came out and it was like early Coldplay. Made YT/CODY seem like revolutionary experimentalism.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 22 July 2021 21:14 (one week ago) link

Felt that for a long time but the most recent is definitely more interesting. It’s been a bit unrewarding since Happy Songs, with the major exceptions of Hardcore, Les Revenants and this.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 22 July 2021 21:14 (one week ago) link


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