natanael cano and corridos tumbados

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natanael cano is a 19-year-old kid who totally revitalized regional mexican music as a commercial force by merging traditional sounds with hip-hop elements, a style he calls corridos tumbados (trap corridos). reminds me a bit of rosalia's flamenco pop in concept (obv not in the way it sounds). it's a pretty thrilling combo, tho since these songs are story-driven corridos, i'm sure i'm missing a lot about what makes it special as a non-spanish speaker. it helps that nata has a spectacular voice and great taste in guitar licks.

inspired to post the thread by this article about the corrido revival in the l.a. times:

this was the breakout hit:

the bad bunny remix that helped him reach a bigger audience

his songs on his 2020 EP 'trap tumbado' bring in elements of trap music. this is the one that is the least subtle combo of sounds. it's silly, but it kinda works.

this one is a more seamless blend, and it's prob my fav song of his

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 May 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

Nice. Cano sometimes sounds like he’s got that same relaxed flow as Bad Bunny. No wonder Bunny is on a remix.

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 May 2021 04:09 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

cano dropped his second album of 2021 on 5/28 (dude dropped 4 albums in 2020, he's on a tear) and the opening track "diamantes" is just a wild combination of sounds

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 23:46 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

really digging the new song. a new album that looks like it will lean more tumbado than corrido is coming next week.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link

whoa i love that

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

yeah, this is one of my fav things he's done

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 31 March 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link

speaking of corridos, not necessarily tumbados, but this ballad from regional mexican group yahritza y su esencia debuted at #20 on the hot 100 last week after a tiktok-fueled rise. beautiful song, imo.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 11 April 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link

checked out the nata album (natakong), and unsurprisingly like the corridos a bit more than the trap songs. the "de a de veras" is still the storngest combo of the two, but i really like some of the ones on the back end, like the below.

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 21 April 2022 13:42 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

stumbled upon grupo diez 4tro recently, love the guy's voice, and the guitarist can fuckin shred!

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

remezcla list of corridos is fascinating:

they're getting much more heart-throbby and teen-friendly (helps that most of the people making this music are young as hell!)

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 December 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

that could also be what remezcal elects to cover no?

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link

for sure. this list in particular seems like it's skimming from some of the most popular regional mexican songs of the year, and it would make sense that the kinds of corridos to find wider audiences are ones that borrow elements from other genres.

though the (excellent) yahritza song is fully acoustic

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

that junior h album is really nice

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

(Mainly acoustic, no trap)

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Thursday, 22 December 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

mexican rapper/singer peso pluma has 5 songs in the billboard hot 100 right now, including "prc" with nata and "ella baila solo," which is all the way up to #17, passing "soy el unico" as the top charting regional mexican song of all time.

kind of wild how fast the style is rising. as of jan 4 (according to this billboard article) there had been 7 regional mexican songs to chart in the hot 100 ever. there are 9 regional songs on the hot 100 just this week

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 15:24 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Regional Mexican has been around for awhile, interesting it's now getting its crossover to a larger market

There's a Rolling Banda ,regional Mexican thread also

OK, I'LL start it: Rolling Banda/Duranguense/Narcocorrido/Flashy Matching Suits Regional Mexican Thread

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 02:27 (one year ago) link

Peso Pluma has a big US tour coming, has been on Fallon, and doesn't want to talk about narco-corridos

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 May 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

some amazing acoustic shredding on the peso pluma album

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 June 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link

i like his single with bizarrap but haven’t checked out the album yet

pareles also published a piece this weekend on this subject

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 June 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

my fav one by him is technically a junior h song, i think. but anyway:

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 June 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

those three reunite on "lady gaga" from peso's album. don't think it hits quite as hard, but still good:

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 June 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

These demographic changes are one ingredient in a much more complex recipe that has led to regional Mexican’s recent command of the pop charts. It helps that many corrido tumbado (also known as corrido bélico or trap corrido) artists have traded cowboy boots for Patek Philippe watches and limited-edition Nikes, updating the genre’s aesthetics for the present moment. And the usual suspects, like the decline of terrestrial radio and the transformative role that streaming platforms have played in the production and consumption of music over the last decade, have also been catalysts for its ascent. But like generations past, there’s still plenty of self-mythologizing—as well as the periodic lionization of a cartel leader

curmudgeon, Monday, 7 August 2023 15:23 (eleven months ago) link

been enjoying the withdrawn, moody sadboi vibes of ivan cornejo's "aquí te espero" recently

dyl, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:41 (eleven months ago) link

enjoyed reading that piece also

dyl, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 20:41 (eleven months ago) link

Yes to Cornejo's sadboi indie meets regional Mexican.

This Billboard piece about him spells out his sound --Born and raised in Riverside, Calif., Cornejo didn’t grow up listening to regional Mexican music. “To be honest, I didn’t listen to regional Mexican until like three years ago when my friends introduced me to T3R Elemento and Grupo Los De La O. That’s when I fell in love with the genre. But I grew up listening to whatever my family listened to. Kudos to them for molding my style,” he says. “My brother would listen to alt-rock like Arctic Monkeys, Tame Impala, and my parents listened to Café Tacvba. Very on the alternative side.”

Which is why, if you listen closely to his songs — all penned by him — there’s a hint of rock in his guitar solos. “I for sure want to keep that same style, very indie,

curmudgeon, Monday, 21 August 2023 03:54 (eleven months ago) link

Peso Pluma is at a huge outdoor venue in Virginia but don't think I can make it out there

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 August 2023 14:12 (ten months ago) link

xp he seems like he approaches his music pretty thoughtfully, will be interested to see how his album turns out

dyl, Friday, 25 August 2023 21:12 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

enjoying the junior h album that came out a month ago or so. plenty of corridos tumbados, but also stuff like this, which is basically a 90s adult contempo radio jam

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 21:02 (eight months ago) link


curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 November 2023 17:18 (eight months ago) link

Over in rolling Afro Latin and more thread there are links to articles condemning Grammys for snubbing regional Mexican artists

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:18 (eight months ago) link

do not care about the grammys, but peso pluma not getting a best new artist nom is insane

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:30 (eight months ago) link

Yep. Peso Pluma & Eslabon performance on Latin Grammys last night was good

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 November 2023 16:40 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

Peso Pluma summer US tour arena dates on sale I see. But not sure I want to pay $60 for nosebleed seats

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:38 (four months ago) link

Caramanica in NY Times is excited about Eden Munoz and Fuerza Regida effort "Money Edition"

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 March 2024 18:27 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

new peso pluma double album out now. first (vastly superior) disc is traditional regional stuff, disc 2 is rap/reggaeton crossover. there are a couple songs worth keeping from that side: the cardi b collab “put em in the fridge” bangs…is he trying a drakeo flow on that one? the arcangel collab does what it’s supposed to. probably won’t ever return to that disc, tho.

the first disc is great, about on the level of genesis. my favs are the boisterous “la people ii,” the ric flair-quoting “ice,” and “bruce wayne”

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 21 June 2024 21:15 (one month ago) link

I need to listen to it. Missed Pluma recent arena gig near me

curmudgeon, Saturday, 22 June 2024 15:41 (one month ago) link

Peso new double album got a mixed review in Pitchfork from a writer I trust

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 17:14 (four weeks ago) link

feeling that cardi b collab

he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 25 June 2024 18:07 (four weeks ago) link

Here's Isabelia Herrera 's review. She touches on some lyrical aspects that my poor knowledge of Spanish doesn't. But she also addresses the music and flow.

I finally listened to this long double album. Like the first album better plus certain other tracks like the Cardi B collab. Some of this is too samey sounding on first listen.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 03:41 (four weeks ago) link

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