milf (the band): One of my all time favorites ...yes really. Hmm? No, I'm serious.

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Incredible short-lived 90s band milf out of Buffalo NY most likely named themselves coincidentally the same as the popular t-shirt acronym, since that didn't really become popularized until the movie American Pie in 1999.

They were once described as a Husker Du 45 played at 33. Hard for me to pin but it's sort of like an often dreamier melodic post pop-punk sound. Both of their studio albums are fantastic front to back and by the second one (Antidope) you can hear that they were moving even further into "dreamy" territory. Supposedly they've got a small cult-like fan base but I've never really actually met anyone else that knows them. Evidence of other super fans like me are found on some old blog posts here and there. So I felt like I needed to spread the word.

First studio album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwPpT08vPQY

Second studio album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C_a3t6RefA

Compilation of rarities (the song Scrambled TV could have been a pop hit!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjpY2rtlPqg

Evan, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 14:43 (four months ago) link

This is good stuff! Kind of somewhere in between Discord and Seattle

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 14:48 (four months ago) link

Glad you like! I'm a sucker for this kind of big guitar sound- Bailter Space has a similar effect on me for instance.

Evan, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 14:59 (four months ago) link

They got the full tribute album treatment too! Says a lot for a band that is so otherwise unknown. These covers are pretty good, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-6BldbVSJk

Evan, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 16:20 (four months ago) link

Whelp! Can't say I didn't try!

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 13:37 (four months ago) link

gotta hear this thanks for making the thread evan

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 April 2021 13:38 (four months ago) link

Feel like I need to put one of these on on a long drive alone and let it sink in.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 April 2021 13:45 (four months ago) link

Hey awesome, thanks both. Would be interested in hearing your thoughts. Driving happens to be my go-to for focused listening as well.

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 13:51 (four months ago) link

Will check this out later! Talk about torpedoing yourself with a name, lol

imago, Thursday, 22 April 2021 13:59 (four months ago) link

As mentioned they predate the pornographic acronym by many years, but yes that disclaimer is now forever attached to any mention of them at all. How annoying that must be for them.

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 14:15 (four months ago) link

that's so weird, what did it mean to them?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 April 2021 14:21 (four months ago) link

Dig these clips, I'll have to check them out.

Without ascribing anything to the origin of the band's name and they may very well predate the term, but I'm not sure I'd go with "many years". I definitely heard the acronym my freshman year of college, which was '94-'95 for me. We knew what it meant long before it was popularized in American Pie.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 April 2021 14:23 (four months ago) link

OK fair, and that's why I worded it more loosely in my opening post. Have not found a definitive source on the name origin quite yet.

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 14:39 (four months ago) link

hard for me to believe the name origin is anything other than that

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:19 (four months ago) link

This dates the term already in use by 1992 with earliest use unknown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MILF

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:21 (four months ago) link

This dates the term already in use by 1992 with earliest use unknown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MILF

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, April 22, 2021 11:21 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

They formed in 1991, so it's pretty hard to say but still very plausible to be a coincidence. I was just digging through old blog rants about them trying to find some mention. Back in 2009 when I discovered them there was a fan page on myspace and some other essays here and there that are just broken links now... Nothing about the name in those write-ups that still exist either.

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:35 (four months ago) link

I feel like there were a few other '90s bands (maybe Jackass was one?) who chose names that ended up being unfortunate, in light of big pop culture phenomena that came along.

best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:42 (four months ago) link

I'd just be curious to hear the genesis of the name and where it came from if it's not the major association that comes to mind.

Etymology aside, this is cool stuff, thanks for the heads up Evan.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:44 (four months ago) link

You're welcome! Happy to spread the word.

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 15:46 (four months ago) link

wow @ this thread. i saw them a couple times in my earliest showgoing days, had no idea they had any kind of a profile outside of buffalo, had completely forgotten about them over the last 20 years. i think i had some kind of homemade CDR comp at one point, i'll have to hunt around and see if i can dig it out

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:34 (four months ago) link

i really like these recordings. shame about the name.

treeship., Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:43 (four months ago) link

I feel like there were a few other '90s bands (maybe Jackass was one?) who chose names that ended up being unfortunate, in light of big pop culture phenomena that came along.

― best time to call is friday and saturday afternoons! (morrisp), Thursday, April 22, 2021 10:42 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Although there's an entire platform called bandcamp

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:46 (four months ago) link

had no idea about that tribute album despite the fact that i know most of the folks on it, ha. really taking me down a 2000s western new york indie rock rabbit hole here.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:50 (four months ago) link

within one minute of the first song off of ha ha bus i sent the album to my guitarist, this band was invented for him probably

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:50 (four months ago) link

"milf tribute" has even more unfortunate connotations today

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:55 (four months ago) link

found a seller on discogs who had both CDs, got em both shipped for $21...looks like I'm in the milf business

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:28 (four months ago) link

Sounds way more like Jawbreaker and all the bands of that 90s scene (I'm not super familiar with any of it) rather than anything to do with Husker Du.

zacata, Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:35 (four months ago) link

looks like a few copies of the tribute available via my pal's store, for tru milf completists

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:18 (four months ago) link

Yeah the Husker Du thing is not entirely accurate! More of a memorable description really.

Nice ums!! Hope you enjoy.

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:22 (four months ago) link

Ah yes, I was just considering getting one from that site/store! You know them? That's great.

And btw (referring to your earlier comment), I'm not sure they really do have a meaningful profile outside of Buffalo! I'm in NJ myself but I have the internet to thank.

Would be interested in this CDR you mentioned, if you find it.

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:28 (four months ago) link

Everybody Should Stop Doing Everything is one of the few CD grails of mine

Evan, Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:30 (four months ago) link

in a couple more weeks, when i can once again start haunting the used music stores and charity shops of buffalo i will keep my eyes peeled for a copy!

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:30 (four months ago) link

In the course of trying to figure out the origin of the band's name (the answer is the obvious one), I stumbled onto this their extant myspace page:
https://myspace.com/whypeoplesuck/music/songs

enochroot, Friday, 23 April 2021 00:52 (four months ago) link

Ah yes, that is the remains of what was once a fan page full of info. As you can see not much is left.

Evan, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:05 (four months ago) link

in a couple more weeks, when i can once again start haunting the used music stores and charity shops of buffalo i will keep my eyes peeled for a copy!

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, April 22, 2021 7:30 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Thanks so much! Maybe you'll even find one of their cassettes, who knows.

Evan, Friday, 23 April 2021 02:06 (four months ago) link

Also, I can help supply mp3s too if anyone wants. Hit me up. Pretty sure my digital collection is 100% complete, self released cassettes & all.

Evan, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:55 (four months ago) link

I feel like there were a few other '90s bands (maybe Jackass was one?) who chose names that ended up being unfortunate

Isis! (formed in 1997)

Lee626, Saturday, 24 April 2021 02:10 (four months ago) link

Ugh yeah I think about that a lot! Feel bad for them.

Evan, Saturday, 24 April 2021 13:59 (four months ago) link

Dunno. In the future, ISIS will be circumscribed to a particular, mercifully short period of human history that few people will actively recall, whereas the goddess Isis is eternal.

pomenitul, Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:05 (four months ago) link

Oh man, forgot about ISIS, good band.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 24 April 2021 17:20 (four months ago) link

listening to my Milf CDs today, good stuff....I miss the days when there were like 10,000 bands like this

odd detail: in the liner notes for Antidope, they thank "Chip Z'nuff and the whole Big Deal Bunch" (Chip from from Enuff Z'nuff). I thought for a minute maybe that band was from Buffalo originally, but nope they were from Chicago so no idea how that connection was made - or maybe he was an A&R for Big Deal?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 April 2021 20:51 (four months ago) link

think the second album is clearly better, too bad they didn't make a third one

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 April 2021 22:04 (four months ago) link

Glad you like it! Was sort of wondering what the takeaway was from anyone that gave it time since last week. Especially you since you went as far as to order the discs.

I may be clouded after years of obsession but I do think they stand out amongst all the other 9,999 bands that they are (I admit) correctly lumped in with. Partly because they did not sound like a poor man's version of [band]; I really believe they developed their own unique voice. They had that slowly lapping waves of reverb/swelling guitar effect (I'm a novice when it comes to guitar effects tbh) that is identifiable across their discography* that I love. I dig their sappy pretty songs and their whole atmosphere. There is more angsty immediacy in Ha Ha Bus but I agree by [i]Antidope{/i] they were really showing that they were developing something further. Really special band imo.

*I digitally own all their rarities beyond the two studio albums- if anyone would ever want any of that let me know.

Evan, Friday, 30 April 2021 03:05 (four months ago) link

whoops Antidope

Evan, Friday, 30 April 2021 03:06 (four months ago) link

only listened to them once through each yesterday, didn't get them in the mail until them, will listen more today, but yeah first impression was definitely good - i didn't mean that they were anonymous - i was more lamenting that there used to be this whole school of kinda post-jawbox type stuff that i took for granted at the time

first impression is that they had a little more of a melodic sense than some of those bands - actually detected a little nirvana in some of the vocal melodies

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 April 2021 14:41 (four months ago) link

(moreso on the first album)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 April 2021 14:41 (four months ago) link

Right on, I just had also been reflecting on it while listening to one of their friends (who they'd shared a split 7" with) Tugboat Annie, who are great themselves but as much as I was enjoying it I was feeling a little more like there was a neon sign saying "RIYL Archer's of Loaf", and wondered if I was too close to milf to be able to realize if they too had a similar neon sign for someone with fresh ears. What I can do however is go "well I admit this one song sounds a lot like 95 era Foo Fighters... hmm is that a bad or good thing?" I've been so ~alone~ as a milf fan that I'm always burning to know if it is as objectively GREAT as I thought or if it just hits the spot for me and my very particular tastes and influences.

Evan, Friday, 30 April 2021 15:10 (four months ago) link

Also what pedal does that guitar effect, seriously? I have never been a gearhead!

Evan, Friday, 30 April 2021 15:12 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

Still want to know what pedal to buy...

Also milf rulez

Evan, Monday, 7 June 2021 20:52 (three months ago) link

oh sorry i meant to say - i don't really know much about pedals at all, only own two a volume pedal and a simple looper, nothing that affects tone

milf does rule

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 June 2021 21:47 (three months ago) link

Evan i found that CDR i was looking for - send me an ILXmail and i'll hook you up

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 01:22 (three months ago) link

Hey! Sent you ilxmail did you get it?

Evan, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 02:24 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

Just want to reiterate:

-One Eye Open you rock thanks again so much

-milf forever

Evan, Monday, 13 September 2021 21:00 (one week ago) link


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