"I felt like I was part of something" a thread for Real Lies

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i voted for real lies, it spoke to the crushing sense of notalgia that was my 2020. also made me think of the beloved, who i also love in the same slightly-embarrassed-by-it kind of way


I’m a bit embarrassed how deeply “Boss Trick'' got its hooks in; it did absolutely nothing for me on first blush but now I’ve played it forty times if I’ve played it once and I am afraid I’m likely to listen to it another hundred in the coming year. I’m amused but unsurprised that this hooked you Dan; keep fucking around with Real Lies and they’ll definitely getcha!

There’s just something about the blend of the warm and rummy bassline, the breathy vocals, the canned drums, the piano motif, the disarmingly rich electrostrings and that sample OH THAT SAMPLE; it’s all unmistakably, immensely corny but somehow evokes genuine **Ff3eeee1llzzz** “Clubby PM Dawn” is a very good description imo.


The first Real Lies album, which I love a lot, is more like East 17 than anything else I can put my finger on.

They remind me of The Tough Alliance a lot though: immaculate hooks over synth-pop, swaggering and menacing delivery but celebratory joyous lyrics. I think TTA practice situationalism as a means of political escape in an idealised way, but for RL it manifests in the fleeting joy of nightlife and club culture.

They also make me think of Saint Etienne's first two albums - stylistically different of course, but both at a point in their careers where their music sounds tied to the city, and borne out of the thrill of the joy of pop itself, all samples and ambition.

I really love this band, I would have started a thread on them if I had had any inkling that ILM wouldn't hate it.


apparently real lies once described their sound as 'dj sprinkles meets oasis' lmao


boxedjoy, Saturday, 30 January 2021 09:55 (two years ago) link

and rather fortuitously they've released a new song this weekend


boxedjoy, Saturday, 30 January 2021 09:59 (two years ago) link

Oh wow why have I not heard these before?

the scamp has a thousand fries (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 January 2021 10:19 (two years ago) link

i have nothing but warm feelings for these lads, even they make me cringe a bit (hello new song!)

mage uluk (NickB), Saturday, 30 January 2021 10:42 (two years ago) link

i did enjoy their version of 'a raint night in soho' last year, they pretty much turned the pogues into a bark psychosis song:


mage uluk (NickB), Saturday, 30 January 2021 10:51 (two years ago) link

I feel like the cringe is part of the appeal: the way they skirt the boundary between lad swagger and earnestness, it feels disarmingly sincere

boxedjoy, Saturday, 30 January 2021 11:01 (two years ago) link

it's a weird kind of selling point, but yes - that!

mage uluk (NickB), Saturday, 30 January 2021 11:27 (two years ago) link

I'm not an expert in these matters, but should thread be called "a mix between DJ Sprinkles and PM Dawn with the swagger of Oasis" (or something like that)?

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link

I really missed a trick there eh

boxedjoy, Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link

yeah boss trick is a ten, I love how it’s a tribute to the third guy who left the group, real earnest bromance vibes

brimstead, Saturday, 30 January 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

Gorgeous merchandise that I'm vaguely tempted by: https://real-lies.bandcamp.com/merch/forza-rl-bliss-to-be-alive-scarves

As mentioned upthread, love the Ea(rne)st 17-ness of these guys

technopolis, Saturday, 30 January 2021 18:07 (two years ago) link

two months pass...


another new one, getting a very strong sense of how the new album is going to sound when it finally arrives

boxedjoy, Friday, 16 April 2021 11:09 (two years ago) link

Love “Late Arcades”. Though I think “Nicotine Patch” may be my favourite of the recent material.

Love the female/male vocal interplay on:

What you gonna use those sore lips for?
Making vows, breaking laws
Constant craving, settling scores
Football pools and cellar doors
Late enough to break
Stay cool son, ache, ache, ache, ache
Hold it inside
With all the reasons why

Tim F, Friday, 16 April 2021 11:27 (two years ago) link

five months pass...


boxedjoy, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:09 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I love this group

brimstead, Sunday, 31 October 2021 16:07 (one year ago) link

going to see them live tonight after it was postponed three (!) times and I am too excited

boxedjoy, Friday, 5 November 2021 10:55 (one year ago) link

Ever since discovering this group, I've become more and more obsessed with them

talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Friday, 5 November 2021 13:29 (one year ago) link

these guys are wonderful.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 5 November 2021 14:47 (one year ago) link

"late arcades" is just >>>>>>

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 5 November 2021 14:53 (one year ago) link

okay late arcades is outstanding

Tracer Hand, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:05 (one year ago) link

why didn’t anybody tell me about this band???

Tracer Hand, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:05 (one year ago) link

i found out about them in the 2020 ilx top tracks rollout i think? they were like 52 or something

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 5 November 2021 16:39 (one year ago) link

this album has the potential to rule my winter if it comes out soon ish.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 5 November 2021 16:41 (one year ago) link

also i need the "bliss to be alive" shirt

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 5 November 2021 16:42 (one year ago) link

the sweetest thing I’ve ever known

brimstead, Friday, 5 November 2021 17:26 (one year ago) link

"since i" is a freaking anthem

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 5 November 2021 19:51 (one year ago) link

It’s about late-night people living in a world that doesn’t want them. It’s about ecstatic taxi rides, drawn curtains, Bluetooth speakers and the sudden pull of strangers. It’s about burying yourself in words and warm bodies in an endless search for the right ones. It was ushered into the world by our friend Tom Watson and finished off by us, with the help of Tom Demac. It’s the next song from our new album and it’s for all of you.
They tore the tongue from the town
Had the nerve to shed tears for the underground
Still need somewhere to come up now the club’s shut down
Aha, ha!
My heart lifts off the backseat, joins the bedtime birds
Numbers rule my life but I’m a man of words
But round her it surges like I can’t describe
Sin, sin, since I

Since I heard your name
I’ve been coming alive
The lines of your fingers
Can we head to mine?
Since I

Sin, sin, since I
Left you late
At Sunday light

It’s a city changing
A shadow play of what it was

It’s a different type of hedonist that wears the crown
Rave echoes are the currency in shutdown town
A sadlad reminiscence with the SoundCloud out
Aha, ha
I’m a caller you can count on in the fading light
I’m a counter you can call on in the dead of night
Young yearning, burning earnings
When the time is right
Since I

Sin, sin, since I

The roads are on surge but the urge has spoken
As one door shuts, another opens
Least till tomorrow when the spell is broken
Aha, ha…

If I were you, I’d forget about that day
Memory fades when you’ve let yourself down
Promises made in a cab, they fade
Well, where are the people who care for you now?
Summer sensoria, unite the euphoria
Get back on the chase and you’ll never come down
Daylight deceit makes you feel complete
Well, this is for someone who never slows down…

Since I

The sight of your shoulders
Laid by my side
Sin, sin, since I

We dreamt a dream of this town
In between the offie and the eider down
Can you hack another bag if you’re coming round?
Aha, ha!
Can you hear that banging bassline through your bedroom wall?
You shut down our clubs then six of us moved in next door
Least you can tell me now how you sleep at night
Sin, sin, since I

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 5 November 2021 19:53 (one year ago) link

going to see them live tonight after it was postponed three (!) times and I am too excited

how were they? I see they're playing here in a couple of days.

toby, Monday, 8 November 2021 13:27 (one year ago) link

I wouldn't want to spoil it but yes you should definitely go see them, they were excellent, the performance was full of surprises and everything was suitably banging, I think the next album is going to be the Saint Etienne/Burial/East 17 hybrid of my dreams based on the new material

boxedjoy, Monday, 8 November 2021 17:59 (one year ago) link

fuck this stuff is good

adam, Monday, 8 November 2021 18:47 (one year ago) link

It’s about late-night people living in a world that doesn’t want them. It’s about ecstatic taxi rides, drawn curtains, Bluetooth speakers and the sudden pull of strangers. It’s about burying yourself in words and warm bodies in an endless search for the right ones.

this is otm but also describes every Real Lies song?

Both "Since I" are "Your Guiding Hand" are fantastic.

Tim F, Monday, 8 November 2021 23:43 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I was just Googling around looking for news about their second album and Juno has the track-listing, artwork and even previews up. Haven't seen anything announced officially anywhere yet so I'm not sure what the deal is. According to Juno the album is called Lad Ash and comes out on April 22nd.


My most anticipated album of the year at this point.

kitchen person, Thursday, 27 January 2022 05:10 (one year ago) link

it's not unusual for retailers to accidentally post listings for albums before they're announced, lots of stuff gets leaked out that way.

going through their run of singles over the last few years & "late arcades" is so good, glad that's on the album since not everything is.

ufo, Thursday, 27 January 2022 06:27 (one year ago) link

Theyve announced another show in Glasgow, it doesn't seem to be a "tour" but the date makes sense around this schedule for release

boxedjoy, Thursday, 27 January 2022 09:13 (one year ago) link

I’m gonna pretend that them leaving off their best song is some kind of 80s throwback strategy,

Tim F, Thursday, 27 January 2022 11:47 (one year ago) link

Genre: "breakbeat"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 January 2022 12:04 (one year ago) link

what I really want is a bonus disc of the "UNREAL" mixes of the singles.

they played Oh Me Oh My (Nicotine Patch) at their show so it's not like they've disowned it.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 27 January 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link

Yeah I guess that’s my point, the song even has the feel of a single that sits outside of the album it is adjacent to

Tim F, Thursday, 27 January 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link

lad ash is happening

The questions you've been asking for so long have finally found their answer. 10AM tomorrow 🕊 https://t.co/hUPal9RWEB

— Real Lies (@_real_lies) February 8, 2022

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 21:32 (one year ago) link


boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

I'm hoping it's the same release date that Juno had (April 22nd) as that's quite soon, but I also have my fingers crossed that the track-listing wasn't quite correct and Oh Me Oh My is on the album

kitchen person, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link



juno listing was accurate

ufo, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 11:57 (one year ago) link

new song is a vibe

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

Brilliant news!

Vinyl apparently includes bonus tracks never seen on vinyl before.

kitchen person, Thursday, 10 February 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

some dates:

We've also added new dates to our 2022 tour. Come see us if you like, all ticket links below...

1 April - Manchester, White Hotel
23 April - Rotterdam, Motel Mozaique
28 April - London, Pickle Factory - SOLD OUT
30 April - Glasgow, Nice N Sleazy
28 May – Copenhagen, VEGA
6 Oct - London, Heaven
28 Oct - Leeds, Belgrave Music Hall
29 Oct - Nottingham, Bodega
18 Nov - Dublin, Grand Social
26 Nov - Brighton, Patterns

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 3 March 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

no spoilers but the live show when I saw them was full of charming surprises as well as being made of complete bangers and I can't wait to see them again

boxedjoy, Thursday, 3 March 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

yes to all that, and the gig i saw was very in keeping with the spirit of their music - something very ingenuous and sincere about the whole thing, maybe its just the times we've been through but it was a genuinely emotional experience

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 3 March 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

massive rabbits – with a vital message https://t.co/ITyxrltlQc pic.twitter.com/36mxex0Cre

— Real Lies (@_real_lies) March 10, 2022

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 10 March 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

If anyone is interested Real Lies have a very lengthy Spotify playlist called “Bliss to be Alive” and it’s an absolute trove of goodies

the article don, Friday, 11 March 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

Updated every fortnight too!

boxedjoy, Saturday, 12 March 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

i don't want to wish the whole summer away but their brighton date in october can't come quickly enough

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 29 April 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

I'll be at the Glasgow show tomorrow too, first gig post covid

ignore the blue line (or something), Friday, 29 April 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link

v jealous of y'all getting to see them. album totally kills

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 29 April 2022 21:33 (one year ago) link

Mini ilx fap imminent!

boxedjoy, Saturday, 30 April 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

gig was incredible, tho i am deaf in one ear now. was funny to see Kevin Kharas queuing up at the bar for a beer just before they came on. And the girl who sings on Nicotine Patch spent the show dancing just next to us. Intimate no frills show, proper rave atmosphere

ignore the blue line (or something), Sunday, 1 May 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link

even better than last time I saw them, best band in the world right now, bliss to be alive

boxedjoy, Monday, 2 May 2022 09:45 (one year ago) link


o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 2 May 2022 09:53 (one year ago) link

ty boxedjoy and tim f for helping me codify my thoughts about this band. deeply uncool as very cool is a funny and interesting take, somehow extremely accurate in my brainspace.

Xii, Monday, 2 May 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

Still listening daily.

Album of the year

groovypanda, Friday, 13 May 2022 08:54 (one year ago) link

Also this (starts 66 minutes in):

We were live in session on @BBCR1 last night. Listen back now https://t.co/TZDWIADvBN pic.twitter.com/vssnBshrAx

— Real Lies (@_real_lies) May 11, 2022

groovypanda, Friday, 13 May 2022 09:06 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

on tour 2022, tickets on sale now https://t.co/ITyxrltlQc 🕊🌹⚡️ https://t.co/C5UZPBiRzG

— Real Lies (@_real_lies) June 16, 2022

really guilty lol at this

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:21 (eleven months ago) link

also over the weekend I had the lads round - as in, the friends I have who are proper lads - and we put this on at the tail end of the night's shenanigans and it seemed to really strike even more of a chord in that context. This feels like such a classic already.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:24 (eleven months ago) link

got a ticket for the London show

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:50 (eleven months ago) link

they can be boxed too easily as "West End Girls" as produced by Underworld (or some variant or equivalent) - not so much "I don't get it" as "I get it too easily and there's nothing more there to get, to grapple with". I doubt many if any people find them either perplexing or hateful, but I could imagine a lot of shrugged shoulders and "why should I care?"
― Tim F, Friday, April 29, 2022 5:56 AM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

The thing is that Underworld-produced romantic synthpop, is a fantastic proposal. The pinch of French House, strong British accent, touches of sophistic-pop may all offer their soft belly for cruel spears, but you know, kill them with kindness. In today's set-up, quick dismissals are their own true collateral. Anyway, I'm late to the party, but add one voice behind this innocent and charming album.

Nabozo, Saturday, 2 July 2022 19:33 (eleven months ago) link

Still rinsing the absolute fuck out of this album. Honestly can't remember the last time an album struck such a chord with me as this one has.

They've been teasing new music soon too on Instagram so looking forward to that.

groovypanda, Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:25 (eleven months ago) link

xpost don’t get me wrong, I love this album.

Tim F, Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:06 (eleven months ago) link

xpost don’t get me wrong, I love this album.

Tim F, Sunday, 3 July 2022 21:06 (eleven months ago) link

four weeks pass...


feels like it was designed in a lab to appeal to my exact tastes

boxedjoy, Sunday, 31 July 2022 11:30 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, it's a great remix. Original might be my song of the year so far. Every single time Kev gets to the "all my friends with the same crest upon their chest" line I levitate. He sounds...completely ecstatic?

Real Lies: a band so good I bought the scarf.

bain4z, Sunday, 31 July 2022 16:00 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

something wicked this way comes 👀 live at midnight https://t.co/jRrimOnu24 https://t.co/0VaTNgrrxD

— Real Lies (@_real_lies) September 1, 2022

groovypanda, Thursday, 1 September 2022 21:41 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

New song!


groovypanda, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 15:28 (eight months ago) link

This is massive.

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 21:08 (eight months ago) link

yeah, one of patrice's best productions yet i think, and that video is perfect too, a rattling journey full-tilt into the darkness. bummer it wasnt on the album tbh

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 21:22 (eight months ago) link

am i alone in hearing echoes of 'no good' in it?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 21:26 (eight months ago) link

No, albeit that “echoes of ‘no good’” could describe a decent chunk of dance music from the last few years.

Tim F, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 21:36 (eight months ago) link

haha true

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:51 (eight months ago) link

this rules

description says "first part of an epilogue" to lad ash, so there's more coming

ufo, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:56 (eight months ago) link

Yeah they posted this on IG:
One of two songs from the world of that record that we want to put out before we put it to bed and move on with our lives.

Then finished it off with
it's also a fucking banger.

willem, Friday, 30 September 2022 07:44 (eight months ago) link

"This has been the best night of my life."

Kev, earlier

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2022 21:27 (eight months ago) link

These guys. Every time!

the article don, Friday, 7 October 2022 09:24 (eight months ago) link

That's definitely something you should say on every night of the tour.

Gig was a blast tho - my first since covid too to echo or something up thread. Funny to see Patrice come out first to a reverb-drenched edit of Roy Orbison's 'You Got It' of all things while throwing OTT DJ poses. It went properly OFF for Since I, North Circular (segue from Lonely Ones into this was glorious) and the final trifecta (Dream On, Boss Trick, YGH). The threadbare setup is probably part of the charm really altho I always want background visuals to support this kind of music. Would've been fun to hear a few more of the older tracks too but can't fault 'em really. I see the sets from earlier this year did not seem to include 'An Oral History...' so thrilled that made it in towards the end.

nashwan, Friday, 7 October 2022 09:44 (eight months ago) link

really did want to go to that but i'm broke, but super glad it was good!

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 7 October 2022 21:06 (eight months ago) link

four weeks pass...

So happy to finally get this on vinyl a full three months earlier than the predicted release date. Sounds and looks beautiful and so cool to have the bonus tracks on there.

kitchen person, Saturday, 5 November 2022 16:03 (seven months ago) link

Nice. Seeing them live in a couple of weeks and cannot wait

groovypanda, Saturday, 5 November 2022 18:53 (seven months ago) link

two months pass...

new track “Valentine”

anza808, Friday, 27 January 2023 14:19 (four months ago) link

it's really nice

ufo, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:09 (four months ago) link

love that but i feel 2:43 is about a third of the length it should be

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Saturday, 28 January 2023 22:59 (four months ago) link

solid content:


o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 22:25 (four months ago) link

new track “Valentine”
solid content:


Unbelievably sensual content

JjFontaine, Friday, 10 February 2023 00:05 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

surprised no one has mentioned Disco Inferno in reference to these guys

Bit late to the party and only heard them in the track rundown… this was my first thought too.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 14:52 (three months ago) link

1-800 GIRLS remix of Boss Trick out today


groovypanda, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 15:15 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

I don't think anyone has mentioned their debut album in this thread... I really like it! It feels like they're still figuring out their sound, so you get some interesting elements like baggy and house groove that aren't present on their recent work. More songy overall and comes across pretty similar to what New Order did on Republic, blending 90s dance with guitars and synth-pop. And then you still get the beautiful "North Circular", closest to the direction they headed into later, which has a cool use of a Boards of Canada sample

Vinnie, Saturday, 6 May 2023 04:07 (one month ago) link

oh their debut is stunning, “world peace” might be my favorite song of theirs

brimstead, Saturday, 6 May 2023 16:10 (one month ago) link

...which is obviously built round a sample from Jean-Luc Ponty's 'Computer Incantations For World Peace'. and then they namecheck JLP in 'Boss Trick' iirc

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Saturday, 6 May 2023 16:57 (one month ago) link

i really love 'Naked Ambition' off the debut, kind of an underrated track but that has everything i love about RL in it

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:02 (one month ago) link

yeah the JLP sample is sweet but the chorus is insanely sweet

brimstead, Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:33 (one month ago) link

Yeah "World Peace" is the track that reminded me most of New Order. Certainly as good as anything else RL has done

Vinnie, Saturday, 6 May 2023 23:07 (one month ago) link

The 1-800 Girls remix of “Boss Trick” is fucking chef’s kiss, lemme tell you

Tim F, Thursday, 18 May 2023 12:51 (three weeks ago) link

very true

corrs unplugged, Saturday, 20 May 2023 20:22 (two weeks ago) link

New single just dropped

Some songs kill you without even trying. This might be the best ever written in that genre. https://t.co/vF6vFS3pMW

— Real Lies (@_real_lies) May 24, 2023

bain4z, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:05 (two weeks ago) link

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