What was the first music you ever hated?

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XXP, re Charlene: best spoken section section EVAH, though!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 November 2020 06:32 (three years ago) link

what about:

HEE HAW

i've been crowdsourcing this

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 November 2020 06:48 (three years ago) link

N!N!N! the spoken section was the roiling kernel of my hatred, especially because it said "make love", I mean GROSS!

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 19 November 2020 07:34 (three years ago) link

Haha. Yep.

I'm struggling to remember much I've truly hated. The best I can offer is Kiss. I probably did *say* I hated them as a 5 y/o, possibly just to be contrary. (They were super-huge in Aus, circa 1980.) Or maybe I just found Gene Simmons genuinely unsettling at that age.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 19 November 2020 08:16 (three years ago) link

Yeah Kiss were legit terrifying as a kid, and the kids who liked them seemed like they were in a secret cult or something. Not like ABBA where everyone went nuts for them.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 19 November 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link

At uni I had to endure a lot of bad student nights, simply because it was what people did: Cheesy tunes nights, karaoke nights, Ibiza trance nights, 'indie' nights where they would play three Limp Bizkit songs in a row etc...

I grew to hate 'Mustang Sally' (the Commitments version) and 'Brown Eyed Girl'. What were these terrible songs with shite lyrics that everyone seemed to enjoy and know the words to? I still think they're terrible.

I've never seen The Commitments but there's something about that sweaty, parpy 80s/90s blues-revival sound that I can't stand.

And 'Brown-Eyed Girl'? What's remarkable or interesting about having brown eyes? May as well call it 'Girl With Ears'. And the 'sha-la-la-la' chorus, don't get me started.

I heard something off Astral Weeks the other day which wasn't terrible, so maybe I should check it out but that song stopped me ever checking out anything else by Van Morrison. That said, if all I'd ever heard by Joni Mitchell was 'Big Yellow Taxi', I wouldn't have ever bothered with her either.

Thinking about it, perhaps one of the reasons I never really got the deal with Amy Winehouse is because her music makes me think of Mustang Sally

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 19 November 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link

brown eyed girl has the lyric about having sex in the green grass behind the stadium. to me this doesn't even seem partially hidden from public view and is kind of a shocking lyric.

treeship., Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link

i picture, like, shea stadium.

treeship., Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link

I associate that song very deeply with nerd summer camp dances. A bunch of hated songs were 'canon' at those dances: "Brown Eyed Girl," "It's the End of the World As We Know it," "American Pie," etc.

I will be completely honest in saying that I kind of hate Brown Eyed Girl, but that American Pie has...sigh...a deep emotional effect on me.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

yeah, i agree with that. when i was a kid "american pie" and "hotel california" were very lyrically mysterious to me. i wanted to understand the metaphors.

treeship., Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link

so i'll always have a soft spot for them. brown eyed girl is not lyrically mysterious.

astral weeks is something i always wanted to like more than i do. i like the lester bangs essay on it.

treeship., Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link

Music you prefer to read about than listen to is probably another thread! Is there a thread on that subject lurking in the archives?

fire up the curb your enthusiasm theme music (again) (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:18 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, Joni Mitchell can fuck off too

DJP, Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link

(Everything I Do) I Do It for You by Bryan Adams. One summer in middle school I was grounded for a month because I had snuck out of the house and spray-painted the neighborhood. (EID)IDIFY seemed like it was on the radio twice an hour and for some reason there was some different song I was desperately trying to catch and record. There had been music before that I had made fun of, because you're supposed to make fun of Milli Vanilli or Warrant. Sure, Ice Ice Baby was stupid, but Bryan Adams was my first experience with actually feeling rage at a song's existence.

peace, man, Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

Maybe not "hate" but I remember hearing Phil Collins' "Groovy Kind Of Love" while waiting for my mom to get her hair cut at age 11 or so and thinking "wow, I'm pretty sure this is a bad song".

Groovy Kind of Love was one that my friends and I would definitely clown on in elementary school.

peace, man, Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

Everything I Do was so tedious. It and 'I Would Do Anything For Love' seemed to dominate the landscape for an eternity in the early 90s and both songs felt never ending

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 19 November 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the Meatloaf song was irritating because it meant that MTV was going to be completely useless for the next 10 minutes.

peace, man, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

"Poptimism" really a function of the decline of the monoculture huh

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague) at 8:11 17 Nov. 20

i can't musically explain that but there are particular late 60s chord choices that have a similar unconscious psychic effects yeah
Really hated "California Dreamin" until seeing Chungking Express when i was like 22. Now love the Mamas and the Papas.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

imo "brown eyed girl" is a good song with good lyrics

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

"california dreamin'"'s chord changes sounded positively evil to me so i have always loved it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

Black Sabbath should’ve covered it in their prime.

pomenitul, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

As a kid I hated every song where Garfunkel sang lead and kinda still do-- esp Scarborough Fair and Bridge

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

They made us sing a lot of cringey boomer stuff in elementary school chorus. One of the first ones I can recall being utterly revolted by was "Crocodile Rock." I had naively, unapologetically enjoyed some *terrible* music as a child (Hootie and the Blowfish, for example). But "Crocodile Rock" was one of the first times I can recall feeling like "WTF is this bullshit." I felt *embarrassed* singing it.

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

I'm sure I've mentioned this somewhere but for me this was Graceland, thanks to my parents playing it over and over on cassette on long road trips. Still can't bear to listen to any of it.

Same. See also Bruce Hornsby and the Range, The Way It Is for the same reason.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 19 November 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

The songs I hated as a kid were the idiosyncratic ones that didn't fit my limited idea of what a good song should be, like "West End Girls" having a singer with an unusual voice. I often ended up liking those songs later on for those same idiosyncrasies

Vinnie, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

oh also The Buckinghams - "(Hey Baby) They're Playing Our Song".

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

And 'Brown-Eyed Girl'? What's remarkable or interesting about having brown eyes? May as well call it 'Girl With Ears'.

^funny!

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

margaritaville

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

You myyyyyy--aaiiiyyy......girl with ears

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

They made us sing a lot of cringey boomer stuff in elementary school chorus. One of the first ones I can recall being utterly revolted by was "Crocodile Rock." I had naively, unapologetically enjoyed some *terrible* music as a child (Hootie and the Blowfish, for example). But "Crocodile Rock" was one of the first times I can recall feeling like "WTF is this bullshit." I felt *embarrassed* singing it.

― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Thursday, November 19, 2020 6:48 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Now you know the reason why I know all of the lyrics to Billy Joel's "Allentown," Madonna's "La Isla Bonita," and John Parr's "Man in Motion." Our closeted middle-school chorus teacher made us sing all of these! It was...really something. I kind of wish there were videos available of our chorus concerts.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

Also, at the end of 5th grade, two teachers were retiring, and our chorus teacher rewrote the lyrics to "Always Be My Baby" so that it became "Always Be My Teacher," and I start crying laughing thinking about singing "Oooh teacher cause you'll always be my teacher." Having a hard time even typing it lmao.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

Probably some cheesy Eurodance a la 2 Unlimited which I quite like now.

chap, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

The big choral number i remember them have everyone (I don't think i was in the choir.... if there was a smaller one) do in elementary school was "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda". I didn't hate it per se, but it was certainly robbed of its power more than a little with the monotone of a big group of 7 year olds.

This is weird, isn't it? Everything in Newfoundland is a war memorial.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

Y'know what, fuck that song.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

in a follow up to my earlier post.
this is the track that to this day still makes me recoil in pain.
was on the radio all the time, and then mum got the album and played it incessantly.
i absolutely fucking hate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfsgXJQ0ebU

mark e, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

I don't think I really hated any music before I started loving a type of music. That type of music was metal/grunge, and I had a good two or three years of hating anything I considered antithetical to it - see my above post.

chap, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

I see now of course that metal and pounding Eurodance do have some things in common.

chap, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

I see now of course that metal and pounding Eurodance do have some things in common.

chap, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

mark e, yeah, that's pretty bad. And I really love a lot of Windham Hill cornball shit.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

I can't think of anything that I viscerally hated as a kid. I had a phase around the age of 8 where I pretty much only liked showtunes and Andrew Lloyd Weber, and felt a weird embarrassment about anything that I heard on the radio or TV. I think pop and rock felt high-pressure in some way, and that I'd be putting myself on the line if I admitted to liking any of it.

jmm, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

most of my teenage ire was directed at otherwise harmless alternative bands I didn't like that got played on Post-Modern MTV, because sitting through them was wasting precious time... I had to fight to be able to stay up to watch it every damn night and once you boiled away all the useless ads and Kevin Seal nattering you only got to see about five videos. eventually I got wise and learned how to program the VCR.

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Thursday, 19 November 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

There are several things I can think of from before I was ten:

-corny MOR country on my Mom's radio like Don Gibson and Mac Davis

-"cute" Christmas songs like Frosty the Snowman and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (I liked most actual carols)

-a horrible lugubrious musical rendition of the Lord's Prayer that was played in my elementary school every day over the intercom while all the kids stood

The common thread here is enforced repetition. I hate to overlisten to a piece of music when I've had my fill.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 20 November 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

The common thread here is enforced repetition.

absolutely

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 20 November 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

a horrible lugubrious musical rendition of the Lord's Prayer that was played in my elementary school every day over the intercom while all the kids stood

Resisting the temptation to embed Cliff Richard's "The Millennium Prayer", no-one needs that

fire up the curb your enthusiasm theme music (again) (Matt #2), Friday, 20 November 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

My prime overexposure/hate years, just starting to listen to a lot of radio, were 1975-1981. I hated Frampton's "Do You Feel Like We Do," all disco (which I've since repented of, long live disco), the Boston-Kansas-Foreigner-Styx-Triumph-Toto-Journey monolith, Barry Manilow, and most of all, Supertramp. I will never not hate Supertramp.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Friday, 20 November 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

I hate/d Supertramp, but didn't realize who they were until I was in my late teens.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 20 November 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

Bob Seger "Old Time Rock and Roll"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 November 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

Oh jeez, Bob Seger. The outro in "Against the Wind" seemed five minutes long and it was on once an hour during my first job, stocking shelves at Fred's Dollar Store.

scampo-phenique (WmC), Friday, 20 November 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

AGAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIINST THE WIND

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 20 November 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link


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