ariana grande - positions (oct. 2020)

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Guessing it’s the album title (possibly the single). We’ll know in the next two weeks; time to start anticipating...

pic.twitter.com/1zAXsDNqim

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) October 17, 2020

Guitar Dick (morrisp), Saturday, 17 October 2020 19:31 (four months ago) link

sick keyboard

devvvine, Saturday, 17 October 2020 19:47 (four months ago) link

yawn

groovemaaan, Saturday, 17 October 2020 21:57 (four months ago) link

countdown clock:
https://www.arianagrande.com/

Guitar Dick (morrisp), Saturday, 17 October 2020 23:11 (four months ago) link

i refuse to believe we're almost two albums away from sweetener. time moves too fast.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 18 October 2020 18:50 (four months ago) link

This is really good, was worried it would be some rote vote or die shit from the first shot of the vid but it's not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcYodQoapMg

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 23 October 2020 04:07 (four months ago) link

the aforementioned vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcYodQoapMg

alpine static, Friday, 23 October 2020 04:15 (four months ago) link

crap, my bad. i saw the thumbnail or whatever you call it on Murgatroid's post and thought that was a lyric video or something.

if someone can delete mine, please do!

alpine static, Friday, 23 October 2020 04:16 (four months ago) link

the production on the single is totally lush...

(I had wondered if the song's lyrics would invoke both the political & romantic connotations of the title... kind of glad it didn't try)

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Friday, 23 October 2020 04:22 (four months ago) link

pretty good but feels weirdly low-key compared to her previous two lead singles?

ufo, Friday, 23 October 2020 04:23 (four months ago) link

So english is not my first language but does anyone else actually catch her lyrics in the chorus? I had to turn on subtitles because the “i’m in the kitchen” and “i’m in the olympics” parts sounded cryptic to me, the middle part of those phrases we’re missing in my ears. Curious if native speakers actually understand it clearly.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 23 October 2020 04:25 (four months ago) link

produced by: London on Da Track, Tommy Brown, Mr. Franks

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Friday, 23 October 2020 04:26 (four months ago) link

xp the chorus is pretty hard to make out for me, even as a native speaker

ufo, Friday, 23 October 2020 04:33 (four months ago) link

The lyrics are on Genius and the YouTube page

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Friday, 23 October 2020 04:34 (four months ago) link

Imagine what you could do on TikTok with this lyrical concept!

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Friday, 23 October 2020 09:22 (four months ago) link

nice song, was hoping for an old-school bridge tho

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Friday, 23 October 2020 10:35 (four months ago) link

low key kind of? but because it just feels perfectly glassy, rounded, no great dramatic peaks. a vibe to sink into. anyway yeah sometimes i forgot how much my world is improved by new ariana tunes.

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 October 2020 10:44 (four months ago) link

self-contained, dammit, that was the word i couldn't remember a minute ago

Notes on "Scamp" (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 October 2020 10:44 (four months ago) link

this is solid as hell

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 23 October 2020 11:59 (four months ago) link

kind of a snooze but will prob sound better in the context of the album

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 October 2020 17:49 (four months ago) link

low key kind of? but because it just feels perfectly glassy, rounded, no great dramatic peaks. a vibe to sink into.

^This is very well stated. I think the track is deceptively simple... it's low-key on the surface, but the rhythm & melody have a steady, sophisticated momentum (even when the beat drops out). The effect is like opening an ingenious music box and letting it play for a few minutes; then easing it closed until you're ready to hear it again.

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Friday, 23 October 2020 19:08 (four months ago) link

album cover art was just served up -

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCSRx3WAAI8QXL?format=jpg&name=large

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Friday, 23 October 2020 19:21 (four months ago) link

i don't really have anything to say about this other than that it's nice and i'm enjoying it

dyl, Saturday, 24 October 2020 18:44 (four months ago) link

Sounds like Nija Charles is one of the track’s main songwriters... her discography is great (“Tonight,” the Summer Walker song, is a favorite of mine).

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Saturday, 24 October 2020 19:59 (four months ago) link

Good stuff, tho not ostentatiously so

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 24 October 2020 21:03 (four months ago) link

Much like how 7 Rings was based around interpolating Rodgers and Hammerstein, 34+35 will be based around interpolating The Connells.

MarkoP, Saturday, 24 October 2020 22:43 (four months ago) link

The Rascals™ are reportedly back!

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Sunday, 25 October 2020 00:30 (four months ago) link

looking like the album may be entirely r&b (no Max Martin this time out)

“nasty” is the track that she shared a snippet of back in March)

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:35 (four months ago) link

Scott Storch worked on a track:

Scott Storch revealed in Fall ‘18 he was asked to play “neo-soul-inspired beats” during a session with Ariana. Last month, a song titled “My Hair” was registered where he’s listed as a writer 📝

Scott Storch worked on hits like “Naughty Girl”, “Cry Me A River”, “Baby Boy” & more pic.twitter.com/7XHGBrFrQ1

— Ariana Grande Today (@ArianaToday) July 12, 2020

New Adventures in WiFi (morrisp), Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:48 (four months ago) link

this is out there. and so far it's almost like she heard the Dua Lipa album and decided she could outdo it for ruthless efficiency. (I mean this as a compliment!)

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 04:15 (three months ago) link

I won't be shocked if it turns out that "off the table" features some 0PN involvement

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 04:37 (three months ago) link

y'all are gonna freak when you hear "my hair"

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 04:49 (three months ago) link

see also "love language" (that string arrangement!)

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 04:55 (three months ago) link

imo this is the best ariana grande album, good night everyone

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:01 (three months ago) link

Super hyped for this. Is it coming out this friday?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:04 (three months ago) link

yarp

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:14 (three months ago) link

this is surely her most consistent album - there's not a single dud, but i'm not sure i prefer it to dangerous woman yet

"love language" is the highlight on first listen

my only complaint is it's kinda too streamlined though, i wish the tracks weren't all so short and had the chance to breathe a little more

ufo, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:47 (three months ago) link

8 songs under 3 minutes is certainly to blame on the streaming era.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 05:51 (three months ago) link

I don’t think her albums have any duds! (...but, I would think that). There’s maybe one song per album that I don’t dig so much, but even those are ok songs.

“Focus” is probably the only true dud she’s officially released (not counting stuff she’s put on SoundCloud, etc.) — and even that was pulled from the album. Except in Japan, where they get all the odds & ends.

Video Drama (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 07:11 (three months ago) link

fantastic album

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 October 2020 07:17 (three months ago) link

don't think it has the emotional resonance of thank u next and even on a pure songcraft level there's something still pretty magical about the debut to me... but it's close to a perfect album for where she is coming out of the last one. everything starting w/ the weeknd song is pretty crazy, basically every song is a knockout.

fwiw i don't really rate sweetener & i might be the only person who has my everything > dangerous woman

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 October 2020 07:21 (three months ago) link

"7 rings" was absolutely a dud and there were a bunch on sweetener and even dangerous woman had "sometimes" which has that annoying "la la la" bit.

i could easily see this becoming my favourite once i've listened to it more

ufo, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 09:15 (three months ago) link

i wish the tracks weren't all so short and had the chance to breathe a little more

I don't think making these songs longer would make them better

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 12:26 (three months ago) link

impressively while these songs are mostly short, they don't skimp on bridges / outros / general bits of goodness beyond verse/chorus/verse. it's easy to imagine the five-minute version of "POV" (an amazing song, incidentally) with a key change and a choir but I personally don't need it

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 12:47 (three months ago) link

i mean i'm not asking for 5 minute versions of things, just more on the 3-4 minute side rather than the 2-3

ufo, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 13:56 (three months ago) link

How are the guest features?

Video Drama (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 14:50 (three months ago) link

they're very solid unless you hate the weeknd

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 14:52 (three months ago) link

it's tight

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 November 2020 16:14 (three months ago) link

This is probably the most outré song she’s ever performed on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYZyzo8UJQM

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Saturday, 14 November 2020 04:54 (three months ago) link

She also covered it 2 years ago for BBC radio 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9wvtSgJ1YM

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 14 November 2020 05:08 (three months ago) link

Interesting, thanks! Didn’t know that

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Saturday, 14 November 2020 05:11 (three months ago) link

the only track on this i can't ride for is the weeknd one and it's mostly because i hate the fucking weeknd

Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 14 November 2020 05:18 (three months ago) link

That unintelligible chorus on positions is so addictive.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 14 November 2020 19:11 (three months ago) link

This album is fucked up

surm, Sunday, 15 November 2020 00:15 (three months ago) link

.. in a good way!

As per usual the fan-made stuff accompanying the album is so sweet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ChTg8jtDqg

I think Shut Up might be Top 5 all-time Ariana.

piscesx, Sunday, 15 November 2020 00:36 (three months ago) link

I think more than one of these tracks is top-five Ariana, she has officially claimed her place in the canon

surm, Sunday, 15 November 2020 00:48 (three months ago) link

O sorry I misunderstood what top-five meant but yes you got it

surm, Sunday, 15 November 2020 00:49 (three months ago) link

I feel like it’s one of those albums where you realize you’re witnessing something, and you re alive to witness it

surm, Sunday, 15 November 2020 00:58 (three months ago) link

I think a case can be made that it’s her best album overall. It may lack the depth and ambition of Dangerous Woman; the endearing idiosyncrasies of Sweetener; and the atmosphere and spontaneity of Thank U, Next... but it has no real missteps, and retains the “personal” focus of her past few albums while stepping back into a comfortable, casual, “nothing-left-to-prove” mode.

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Sunday, 15 November 2020 01:28 (three months ago) link

(and the songs, as always, are fantastic)

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Sunday, 15 November 2020 01:29 (three months ago) link

Definitely an argument to be made there
The harmonies on this record tho

surm, Sunday, 15 November 2020 16:55 (three months ago) link

i think Maura's excellent and only lightly coded coverage in Time on this album crystallized my thinking on just why it seems to be leaving reviewers nonplussed: it's a collection of songs by a woman clearly and severely impacted by trauma that is nonetheless firmly centered on her desire for pleasure and orgasm. That is a treatise and perspective that the pop market is clearly ready for but that many critics are not.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:11 (three months ago) link

Love that perspective

surm, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 03:28 (three months ago) link

Like a lot

surm, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 03:28 (three months ago) link

Also applies to the reception of other sexually forward records in recent memory, thank you for articulating it

surm, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 03:39 (three months ago) link

for the curious, like myself:

https://time.com/5906180/ariana-grande-positions-review/

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 06:43 (three months ago) link

I don’t get your “only lightly coded” reference, forks. care to explain?

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 06:51 (three months ago) link

A few of the songs are fairly explicit, but the lyrics aren’t much different from what’s in Dangerous Woman. A difference, I think, is that these lyrics sound like a woman wrote them; whereas some of DW’s “sex lyrics” sound like a man wrote them for her to sing (...tho I don’t know if that’s actually the case).

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:23 (three months ago) link

At any rate, these lyrics are more “in her voice“; and she also no longer needs a male rapper in the middle of the song to drive the point home (much as I love Future’s verse on “Everyday”).

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:26 (three months ago) link

xp to bc: I don't want to speak to Maura's intentions (and I hope she'll swing by to discuss!), but "even when Grande is singing of self-doubt and uncertainty, she’s fully in her feelings, and knowing that pop can bring a release" seems about as close as Time was likely to let her get to saying that Grande is coming from a complex space but finds it easier to come, so to speak, in the less complex landscape of "pop."

I dunno that I really got into Dangerous Woman (sweetener was probably when i really started hearing Grande) and I'd need to give it another listen, but my memory of it was Grande predominantly playing to the male gaze, whereas four years later she seems to be owning who she is pretty fully. Or basically what you said while i was typing!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:33 (three months ago) link

forks is talking about “Maura's excellent and only lightly coded coverage in Time” tho

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:34 (three months ago) link

yeah, that was the point i was making. Ariana's tongue-in-cheek lack of disinterest in coding at all ("means i wanna 69 with you / no shit" and basically all of Shut Up) is part of what makes the album sound so refreshing to me.

and thanks for the plaudits surm

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:36 (three months ago) link

sorry, my previous post was to morrisp, I misunderstood their posts as a reply to my question.

(I don’t xp very well when I’ve barely waken up!)

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:41 (three months ago) link

Yes, sorry to be confusing, I was responding to the observation about lyrics generally (not the question about the review).

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:43 (three months ago) link

I actually think it's kinda funny how she sings "Open my mind for ya" (in "Nasty")... like, your mind was already "open" back in "Dangerous Woman," that song explored the theme very thoroughly... what new crazy shit is this skinny real-estate guy into, lol

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:25 (three months ago) link

I guess a way to spin it (per our discussion above) is that she is sort of re-writing those songs from her own "p.o.v."

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:27 (three months ago) link

All the "callback" lyrics are maybe the one thing about this album that I'm not totally in love with... but she talks in that YouTube interview about how she made a point of doing that, how the connections are meaningful to her, etc.

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:50 (three months ago) link

IMO, “Obvious” is (secretly) the best song on the whole album. It’s a total singalong jam, in a classic, straight-up R&B style... gives me so much joy.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Saturday, 5 December 2020 22:12 (two months ago) link

3435 is breezily recognizable and so pretty, a good sonic reference to tu nxt indeed

surm, Monday, 7 December 2020 01:46 (two months ago) link

also off the table tho
Everything is just so INSTANT and lush

surm, Monday, 7 December 2020 01:55 (two months ago) link

I wish I could adequately express my love for this wonderful album!

The moment in "Off the Table" when The Weeknd sings, I was toxic, then I was toxic to someone else... – and Ari comes in on "someone else" – gives me goosebumps...

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:01 (two months ago) link

I might have to throw "off the table" a vote tbh

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 05:49 (two months ago) link

Omg SAME
Exactly when I made this post lol

surm, Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:22 (two months ago) link

xp

surm, Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:22 (two months ago) link

:)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:26 (two months ago) link

she is newly engaged... wishing her happiness (of course), but also hope it inspires a fresh round of songwriting/recording!

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:46 (two months ago) link

New documentary looks fun! I never watch those things but it does look neat

surm, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 00:09 (two months ago) link

It’s basically a well photographed show on the tour, plus some fluffy behind-the-scenes stuff.

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 00:14 (two months ago) link

Ariana sure has a lot of best friends

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:18 (two months ago) link

Lol, I assumed (hoped) that was an in-joke

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:22 (two months ago) link

It was cool that they showed her rehearsing “Monopoly” w/Victoria, but I wish they had filmed one of the two actual performances of that song on the tour.

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:28 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

deluxe ed., teased:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtLrcvfUYAAUNsL?format=jpg&name=medium

excuse me while I fold my pants (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 02:04 (three weeks ago) link

ayyy

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 02:12 (three weeks ago) link

Snap, the other tracks are all new (not remixes):

positions deluxe friday 🤍 which of the new additions are u claiming ? https://t.co/FpkiHYLFqt pic.twitter.com/IegiKqjjKz

— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) February 15, 2021

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Monday, 15 February 2021 20:29 (one week ago) link

the new traxx are lushhhh

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Friday, 19 February 2021 05:49 (one week ago) link

"main thing" is positively aquatic

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Friday, 19 February 2021 05:55 (one week ago) link

these are all great, especially "test drive"

ufo, Friday, 19 February 2021 11:21 (one week ago) link


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