A potentially rolling thread for ilx0rs to ask for recommendations when they have a hankering for a sound but have run out of ideas of where to look.
I'm after some new synth sounds to fill my head with. I want a strong rhythm, most likely motorik or disco or fun glitch. I was thinking along the lines of 'Magic Fly', but maybe more like it's made by cool robots? Or Deutsche Wertarbeit but more pumping? Vocals optional. Bonus points for not being from the US/UK (though absolutely not ruling recs from those places out).
― emil.y, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 17:16 (one month ago) link
Emil.y do you like Die Wilde Jagd because the full length version of Himmelfahrten was the last thing that scratched that motorik itch for me?
(Yeah, I'm still waiting for someone to fill my megadog crustie bobbins thread with Scottish Rave Hippies to scratch my Shamen itch but no one dares to admit to liking that stuff.)
― Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 17:35 (one month ago) link
I feel like a bunch of Yellow Magic Orchestra would tick that box but assume you already know them? Less motorik but more glitchy might be Tujiko Noriko? Feel like I'm stating the obvious/getting it wrong
― 1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 17:48 (one month ago) link
Have you heard Fontan? I loved the last album they released on Hoga Nord. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGCN38NvLvQ&feature=emb_title
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 17:59 (one month ago) link
Hmm, that link isn't working for me, one more try, otherwise, it's a self titled LP and the whole thing is streaming in multiple places.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:01 (one month ago) link
Oh wow Branwell, that's not the vibe I was thinking of but it's a brilliant song, that's a great recommendation. I listened to the song about Elephants (I think) from another ilx recommendation, I liked it but wasn't so blown away - this one I love.
I've never really explored Megadog style stuff so I can't help you out there. I did play a track that heavily samples a goa trance record on my radio show a few months back if that would be of interest?
NV - great thoughts, spot on with the sort of thing I'm after, but I know and love both already. Thank you, though!
BLD - not heard Fontan, will give it a spin next up.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:04 (one month ago) link
emil.y have you heard the TASE album from this year?https://futureislisteningmusic.bandcamp.com/album/tase
― brimstead, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:28 (one month ago) link
might be too spacey for what you’re looking for...
I wonder about the WH Lung album from last year? Might be a bit polite potentially.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:31 (one month ago) link
Thanks for the offer of Goa Trance sample - I’m actually curious what that is now?
But my itch seems to be more towards Scottish Psych rather than any old rave hippies. Like, the JAMC’s ~dance~ album and stuff like Spirea X’s Chlorine Dream is scratching my Shamen itch more than goa trance...
― Branwell with an N, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:49 (one month ago) link
I’m not running out of Motörhead albums to listen to yet... but anybody wanna recommend some hardass d-beat/speed metal records with strong vocals? especially anything with double bass drums a la “overkill” or Judas priest’s “exciter”
― brimstead, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:19 (one month ago) link
emil.y, do you know Monoton? They could possibly work for you, I'd link something from YT for you but I never seem to get the c&p right these days.
Also, I reckon there might be some Childisc artists that could fit the bill, perhaps one of the compilations could steer you in the right direction.
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 20:28 (one month ago) link
Thank you guys for a good night's listening as I grappled with insomnia. I liked all of the recs in this thread, which surprised me, I thought there'd be at least one I'd not click with. I'll definitely be going back to a few, but they're all a little restrained in comparison to what I'm looking for. Maybe my "itch" is for something rowdier or rawer or more of a rump-shaking bop?
I think the closest we came to scratching the itch is when the synths get wild on the WH Lung (though I wasn't mad keen on the vocals), or some of the more out-there stuff on the Childisc comp I found (I'm sure I must have had something on this label back in the day, as the twee electronic sound of some of it was very much what I was into back then).
― emil.y, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 06:46 (one month ago) link
I feel bad that the other requests in this thread are for things I don't know much about, as I do want it to be useful to more people than me. I will look up that goa trance record for Branwell at some point when I'm feeling the lack of sleep less.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 06:47 (one month ago) link
hi emil.y, you may already know cybotron but the first thing that came to mind was this:
whole album is classic but that one is very pumping magic fly cool robot!
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 07:25 (one month ago) link
it's from 1983 - don't know if you were looking for newer stuff or what?
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 07:26 (one month ago) link
Oh yes, that's definitely the stuff, Nick! (Wasn't looking for any particular era, just a sound.)
― emil.y, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 08:30 (one month ago) link
Hi emil.y - this might not be rhythmic/beat-driven compared to what you asked for but I'm guessing it would be up your street
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 09:17 (one month ago) link
Emil.y I’m sure you’ve heard him but have you tried Vitalic? His last album “Voyager” has lots of heavy synth.
His cercle set is a pretty good sampler: https://youtu.be/IGUAChyue2I
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 13:31 (one month ago) link
I actually made a playlist for a friend years ago who wanted a new wave/italo/electro sampler for a fashion show... cointans several songs with heavy synths + motorik or disco beats.
Here’s some songs I’m picking from there, me know if any of these work for you:
Boy Harsher - PainAdult. - Hand to PhoneElecktroids - Silicon ValleyTevo Howard - all this painHanayo - Joe le TaxiCollege - Can you kiss me first
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 13:48 (one month ago) link
Ah thanks - I will listen to these new things later. I did try Vitalic back when ilx went crazy for 'em but that was a long long time ago, will give it another spin. And I've definitely been meaning to sample Boy Harsher a bit more, did like the small amount I've heard (might include that song even, everything is unclear rn).
― emil.y, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 15:58 (one month ago) link
I'm also friends with Bufi and I've seen him talk about artists like Space and Crash Course in Science as big inspirations to him. His last album "Mexico 70" has definitely some songs that fit into the description of synth with motorik / disco beats, some even have more kitschy, fun latin-influenced rhythms if that's something you might be interested in.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 18:12 (one month ago) link
are you familiar with Tøronto? half of the guys who used to be in Morbus Chron; their latest might be close to what your looking for
― where do all these unsold amps go? (gaudio), Thursday, 8 October 2020 17:29 (one month ago) link
Hahaha oh dear, an ILX0r who I guess wishes to remain anonymous granted my request and emailed me:
-Scottish-nindie plus beats-a bit kinda druggie, I guess?
So I spent the afternoon listening to an 18 Wheeler record. Honestly, it was not as terrible as I thought a late-period Creation Records act was going to be? Past the hump of the first few songs, it got musically far more interesting than I thought it would be (kinda like a baggy Boo Radleys). Singer was absolutely dire, though. Makes me realise how much 'singer can actually do decent harmonies' is a prequisite for me - hence why Spirea X scratch my Shamen itch, they do really lovely vocal harmonies.
Looked up a picture to see if they were at all cute, GIS decided '18 wheeler band' looks like this:
(Spoiler: unfortunately they do not look like that.)
― Branwell with an N, Thursday, 8 October 2020 19:03 (one month ago) link
hey thanks, gaudio! I will check that out
― brimstead, Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:25 (one month ago) link
hello branwell : was never bothered re anon groove.just wanted to see what you thought as you expressed interest in the spirea x album and scottish rave/pop.this was all i could come up with from the archive (along with The Apples, r.i.p Ian Stoddard, and IF?).totally agree re the vocals re 18W, they totally hold the band back.not heard their final album for a very long time until yesterday when i zipped it up etc.
still think i have some scottish rave/pop buried deep that i cannot recall at the moment.
― mark e, Thursday, 8 October 2020 20:37 (one month ago) link
Apropos of nothing: one of Spirea X is now a Glasgow based Social Worker. My wife worked alongside him and by all accounts a lovely fellow
― the article don, Thursday, 8 October 2020 21:17 (one month ago) link
nice. let me know if you enjoyed it
and obv i meant "you're looking for", as in you're welcome, brimstead
― where do all these unsold amps go? (gaudio), Thursday, 8 October 2020 21:20 (one month ago) link
Scottish 1986, and sounds a bit like the Jesus Loves Amerika version of the Shamen:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQW4C1gG5dQ
― everything, Thursday, 8 October 2020 21:38 (one month ago) link
OMG, everything - Mackenzies - A1.Mealy Mouths
YES! YES! THE ITCH IS SCRATCHED!!! Big beats PLUS big indie guitar, and ~Scottish Voice~ yes! (Haha, I don't think it's actually 'Scottish' voice per se, but there's a certain treble tonal quality to the voice that this guy has, that Colin Angus has times a million, that Sice from the Boo Radleys has, where I am just like... more of this singing, please.)
― Branwell with an N, Friday, 9 October 2020 06:42 (one month ago) link
never heard that before. i really like it.reminds me of early CHAKK.
― mark e, Friday, 9 October 2020 10:33 (one month ago) link
They were around for a couple of years as a band heavily influenced by the Fire Engines before following their heroes' swerve into glorious technology with two final 12"s (which are all versions of the same track). The Fire Engines->Win trajectory is the foundation here. There's at least 3 bands on the C86 album who trod that path (Mackenzies, Big Flame>Great Leap Forward, Age of Chance). Re the vocals, Davy Henderson has a lot to answer for there too. Branwell, I'm assuming you've checked out Win already? If not you should go there now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZWh8ezykkMThere's this lot, contemporaries of the Drop-era Shamen. With hindsight, these lyrics are hilariously brilliant.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0WS6nn7L7g
The answer to this question may involve Finitribe. They existed. Finitribe: They Existed
― everything, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:21 (one month ago) link
Not Scottish, but very nice trebly vocals over psyched-out trippy indie-techno. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCKaA6-H7ew&t=147s
― everything, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:43 (one month ago) link
Did that embed work? If not, it's Sudden Sway's Ko-Opera (1990).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCKaA6-H7ew&t=147s
― everything, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:44 (one month ago) link
Re the vocals, Davy Henderson has a lot to answer for there too. Branwell, I'm assuming you've checked out Win already? If not you should go there now.― everything, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:21
― everything, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:21
OMG, I had not, but I have now, and wow, yes, that scratches the itch very nicely, thank you for the rec!
(Also, while playing 'is this Scot hot or not?' the following image appeared, warning: may involve past ILX0rs of yore)
I expect one of these days I am going to have to dive deeper into Finitribe but I'm scared.
― Branwell with an N, Friday, 9 October 2020 15:15 (one month ago) link
Wait, OMG, Davy Henderson is ... HIM!?!?!? As in, that guy? Without whom, Freaky Trigger and by extension ILM wouldn't even exist?
Hahaha OK the joke is on me, yes, this is a cheeky boshing Scottish art-prankster A++ ripe for crushing just kill me now
― Branwell with an N, Friday, 9 October 2020 15:39 (one month ago) link
Momus's eyewear there seems inspired by the traditional Scottish square sausage.
― everything, Friday, 9 October 2020 16:06 (one month ago) link
yup.so glad to see WIN getting a mention (think i mentioned them in the email to you Branwell).after WIN, Ian went onto form The Apples.a couple of singles, a very low key release of an album, and that was it.i bloody loved The Apples.
― mark e, Friday, 9 October 2020 18:18 (one month ago) link
Haha, oh god I didn't realise when you wrote 'Scot Pop Heroes WIN' that WIN was a *band* and not a comment on Scottish pop heroes - "for the win!" I am really dumb. (That particular email address goes into a tab in my work browser so I'm sorry that replies there tend to be really distracted and cursory inbetween programming jobs.)
― Branwell with an N, Friday, 9 October 2020 19:26 (one month ago) link
Wow, that Apples track is so so sooooo 1991 (in a delightful way, because *I* am from 1991) but wow, it is so of its time!
― Branwell with an N, Friday, 9 October 2020 19:27 (one month ago) link
glad the penny dropped.a couple of years ago i decided to track The Apples album down (don't think it ever got a full proper release in the uk).it is so so good.not WIN level good, but very little is.as you say, very very timestamped.in a good way.
re ian : https://www.jockrock.org/news/ian-stoddart-rip/
― mark e, Friday, 9 October 2020 19:35 (one month ago) link
gaudio this Tøronto album is sick, thank u
― brimstead, Friday, 9 October 2020 19:48 (one month ago) link
yes, yes it is!
― where do all these unsold amps go? (gaudio), Sunday, 11 October 2020 17:58 (one month ago) link
― xzanfar, Sunday, 11 October 2020 18:40 (one month ago) link
This might be a little niche, but I'm currently listening to a lot of huge natural electroacoustic/drone stuff (Deep Listening Band, Stuart Dempster, David Hykes - stuff that sounds like earth exhalations) and would really like some recommendations if anyone has any.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:47 (three weeks ago) link
organum, loren chasse, I think you know Köner already, tom heasley (tuba thru delays etc), duane pitre "bayou electric", maybe christophe charles?
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 18:28 (three weeks ago) link
Been really in the mood for spoken word shit lately, but preferably desolate or depressing, like Dead Flag Blues by Godspeed or Freedom by Mingus. I’m not picky on the type of music, just looking for spoken word desolation vibes, if anyone’s got any.
― Will (kruezer2), Thursday, 5 November 2020 02:00 (three weeks ago) link
I want more "ambient country" like this Chris Bathgate song - sort of like if william tyler type stuff had vocals
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 5 November 2020 02:07 (three weeks ago) link
Chinaski - if you want drones then check out the Low Point catalogue, from my home town: https://lowpoint.bandcamp.com/music
― emil.y, Thursday, 5 November 2020 03:06 (three weeks ago) link
check out Hymnambulae, a Swedish brother/sister electroacoustic duo who would fit in here. Their second album Nausikaa uses voice recordings from the poet Gunnar Ekelöf and feels a lot like those GYBE breakdowns
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 5 November 2020 03:41 (three weeks ago) link
Also Current 93's 'I Have A Special Plan For this Word' may work gloomily well for you.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 5 November 2020 14:12 (three weeks ago) link
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 5 November 2020 14:13 (three weeks ago) link
Cheers for the drone recommendations. Tom Heasley very much what I was after. And I love Gareth Hardwick (it's his label right, emil.y?). I'm going to play Sunday Afternoon later.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:01 (three weeks ago) link
The 'ambient country' thing is puzzling me, Simon H, because I can think of a bunch of the more ambient end (most of which is pushing into wide open desert music material) but nothing with vocals. That Bathgate track is gorgeous; shout if you find anything else!
Probably for the desert thread, but Suss are lovely:
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 5 November 2020 21:49 (three weeks ago) link
this may be a terrible description, but can anyone recommend me some ✨ microtonal ambient with pitch wheel shenanigans ✨, similar to Sun Electric's "Newambi"?
Eno's On Land is the most obvious influence I can hear, but it isn't really the same thing. bonus points if you have any idea what traditional ("world music") genre Sun Electric are drawing upon. I thought "Newambi" might mean something in another language, but nope, it's probably just "new ambi(ence)"
― unregistered, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 03:23 (two weeks ago) link
I can think of a bunch of the more ambient end but nothing with vocals
the king creosote/jon hopkins collaborations are sort of in this wheelhouse a bit too it just now occurs to me, though they're generally a bit more "active" than what I had in mind
this Suss track is a beaut, thanks!
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 03:47 (two weeks ago) link
First thing I think of re: "ambient country" is Scott Tuma's first solo record:
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 03:50 (two weeks ago) link
Tuma is magnificent. His Not for Nobody album probably fits here too. I wonder about Headfull by King Black Acid?
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 10:02 (two weeks ago) link
There must be a shit ton of these but I'm blanking a bit: I'm gong to call it 'soft, sad horns' as in things like Pink Mountains' Snow is Falling on Manhattan and Tindersticks' Patchwork. Exquisite warmth and resignation.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 20 November 2020 18:54 (one week ago) link
hmm what about Virðulegu Forsetar by Jóhann Jóhannsson?
― brimstead, Friday, 20 November 2020 19:26 (one week ago) link
oh but that’s more “ambient” music actually, sorry
i may be taking you too literally but i recommend The Westerlies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvKByGmoOE4
― Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2020 21:06 (one week ago) link
'soft, sad horns' as in things like Pink Mountains' Snow is Falling on Manhattan and Tindersticks' Patchwork. Exquisite warmth and resignation.
― down like 6:30 (morrisp), Friday, 20 November 2020 21:46 (one week ago) link
Oh this Mayo Thompson is just the thing, cheers. The Westerlies is lovely too.
I guess Nixon would be the motherlode for a lot of the soft sad horns thing.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 20 November 2020 21:59 (one week ago) link
The Mountain Goats song "In Memory of Satan" has an absolutely gorgeous-sounding horn arrangement that is so soft and billowing you could throw it underneath someone who just fainted, to keep them from hurting their head on the floor
― handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Saturday, 21 November 2020 01:44 (one week ago) link
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:18 (one week ago) link
Epic Soundtracks and Mountain Goats tracks both gorgeous, cheers.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 27 November 2020 16:21 (yesterday) link
As an old indie kid I feel like I should be much more useful in providing soft, sad horns but damn, I am blanking on this.
― emil.y, Friday, 27 November 2020 16:39 (yesterday) link