Let's talk about Avalon Emerson

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Beloved of ILM for years but there's no thread for her. She's done the latest DJ-Kicks, full of new material, and while I'm only half way through it is so good, exactly what I wanted an Avalon Emerson mix album to sound like.

Anyway, talk amongst yourselves.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 September 2020 11:32 (two years ago) link

I think this is still my favourite thing of hers I've heard. So deep -


chap, Friday, 18 September 2020 11:43 (two years ago) link

The cover of Long-Forgotten Fairytale is unexpected!

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 18 September 2020 11:45 (two years ago) link

Agree w/ Chap that the Octo Octa remix is up there w/ the best. Looking forward to hearing the DJ Kicks, is it out yet?

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 18 September 2020 11:56 (two years ago) link

Aw, yeah, I was really hoping someone was going to start a thread for her, because she's amazing.

Second - third - her Octo Octa remix, also her Slowdive remix is one of the most swoonsome things I have ever heard!

Grebo Jones (Branwell with an N), Friday, 18 September 2020 12:06 (two years ago) link

The cover of Long-Forgotten Fairytale is unexpected!

It's really sweet, and I don't even like the Magnetic Fields.

The mix itself is a pretty good reflection of what it's like when you see her DJ, in that she goes hard from pretty early on but she isn't afraid to throw as much melody and colour and as many arpeggiated bleeping noises in as she wants. The cover has her wearing some kind of sci-fi racing helmet and it's that kind of mix. 'Poodle Power' is probably the best of the new material but apparently she's been playing it out for two years.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:22 (two years ago) link

good article


the late great, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:24 (two years ago) link

good picture


decent producer, not really my style per se compared to, idk, springier vancouver or australian sounds or whatever

the octa octa remix for example is nice but the breaks are kinda clunky and the arpeggios kinda grinding in the way post-weatherall producers like daniel avery often are, which is a style, just not entirely my thing

the late great, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:30 (two years ago) link

Yeah I'm not crazy about the Octo Octa remix either, I prefer her when she's in widescreen mode - 'One More Fluorescent Rush', 'The Frontier', 'Natural Impasse' etc, or where she's making lazer-tunnel bangers like 'Constantly My Cure'. Daniel Avery isn't in the same league even on the rare occasions when he's good.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:36 (two years ago) link

"poodle power" reminds me of old stuff from creme or bunker, like early legowelt or bangkok impact (it's that arpeggiated italo thing) and again while i think a lot of ppl would see that as a great compliment for me i always preferred maybe funkier, more swinging and jacking stuff with a lighter touch

the late great, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:38 (two years ago) link

ok i hadn't heard "constantly my cure" or "natural impasse", these are pretty excellent especially the former

still not convinced about the widescreen way out west italo arpeggiations but just a matter of taste i suppose

the late great, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:41 (two years ago) link

a lot of her textures remind me of Nathan Fake and that mid-00s Border Community sound, but her sense of melody and groove is a lot more muscular. I think she's really good at avoiding the trap of the four-bar loop that a lot of melodic techno falls into - her lead lines sound improvised and loose.

boxedjoy, Friday, 18 September 2020 20:04 (two years ago) link

Her RA Art of DJing is so good,


it's just such a good read and watch that I couldn't wait to hear her mix sets and discovered that I don't actually like them much! I do like most of her tracks though and really love 'One More Fluorescent Rush'.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:32 (two years ago) link

'One More Fluorescent Rush', 'The Frontier'

I like both of these a lot but I don't know much else of her stuff

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:46 (two years ago) link

she had a dedicated site cybernedits (cybernetic edits) where she'd post free edit ep's from herself, Nathan Micay and a few others whose names escape me but the site seems to have gone. Her edit of Pump Up The Jam from those is great.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:53 (two years ago) link

I put her DJ Kicks on and it had the same weakness as her Essential Mix - lots of really great music but no sense of pace. That Oklou track should be a climax, but it feels like the energy is gone straight after it's done

boxedjoy, Saturday, 19 September 2020 08:45 (two years ago) link

I felt that specific moment as well and I think it's a deliberate turning down of the heat, I dunno, having seen her live she definitely has a grasp of dancefloor dynamics.

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 September 2020 09:46 (two years ago) link

need to listen to it again - I put it on earlier and found it really enjoyable but I was doing work and not really paying attention.

anyway, between the LFF cover and Kelly Lee Owens covering Arpeggi, it’s been a good year for women in techno improving upon indie songs I loved in college.

Roz, Saturday, 19 September 2020 17:19 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

avalon emerson has a supernatural gift for sound design. i thought i'd already posted "Finally Some Common Ground". it's one of my all-time favorite techno tracks.


i stayed up late last night trying to reverse engineer just the first four bars of the percussion, got nowhere close. i couldn't come up with congas (sampled or synthesized) that have that kind of tone and sustain. there's also some very tricky, subtly executed automation on the reverb and slap-back delay effects. i'm gonna keep at it today cuz it's fun, but man, what i've spent hours trying to replicate is just a small piece of a track full of mind-bending sonics. how the hell does she do it, and hold a day-job as a software engineer?

davey, Friday, 4 June 2021 21:26 (one year ago) link

one year passes...



o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:24 (four months ago) link

i think there's bullion involvement in this?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:25 (four months ago) link


Avalon Emerson & The Charm is an ongoing, ever-shifting collaboration.
The Charm has no fixed roster and no fixed rules; it’s a vehicle for expression and connection, with Avalon at the helm.

With ‘Sandrail Silhouette’, Avalon says:
“To me this song is about scale. Scales of time and how something that seemed so important and defining a long time ago, might not really matter that much now. And then taking a step back and feeling the smallness of your own lifetime in the shadow of a thousand year old tree. In that way it’s also about the here and now and not sleeping through the erosion of time.”

Produced by Avalon Emerson and Nathan Jenkins

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 22:34 (four months ago) link


music for A★TEENS’ musicians (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:28 (four months ago) link

this song is absolutely perfect in every way

music for A★TEENS’ musicians (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:28 (four months ago) link

yes stevie! <3

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:17 (four months ago) link

Great song

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:52 (four months ago) link

Bullion might be a wizard.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 January 2023 18:53 (four months ago) link

one month passes...


new song! and an album!

seems like the record is going to be pretty pop-oriented? which wont be a bad thing -- the new song is great after all -- but i cant deny that i'm hoping for some bangers

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 2 March 2023 13:37 (three months ago) link

This is being promoted as “Avalon Emerson & The Charm” so it’s probably going to be a “pop” side project and she’ll continue making her usual style of music without “The Charm”.

New song rules.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 March 2023 13:52 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Not on youtube yet, but another lovely new track "Karaoke Song": https://open.spotify.com/track/5fxhtFc0h2TZ7SpezVl9SY?si=06e86dd6dc2e4a77

she talks about making a pop record here: https://mixmag.net/feature/avalon-emerson-the-charm-dream-pop-dj-interview-cover-feature

Roz, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 04:10 (one month ago) link

gonna be my aoty

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:37 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Aoty material more people need to get on this. Every track is a winner.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:09 (one month ago) link

Of all the albums that came out today this one sounds taylor made for me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:10 (one month ago) link

Pun intended?

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:15 (one month ago) link

Tailor lol

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 28 April 2023 15:19 (one month ago) link

holy crap

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:39 (one month ago) link

sophistechnodream pop album of the year

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:48 (one month ago) link

this is so good

Indexed, Monday, 8 May 2023 16:57 (three weeks ago) link

oh thanks for the heads up been meaning to jump on this

octobeard, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 01:15 (three weeks ago) link

This is the good shit.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 01:24 (three weeks ago) link

this is a great headphones album, turns out

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 May 2023 19:50 (two weeks ago) link

I feel so alienated seeing how overlooked this album is. It should be as popular as idk the Caroline Polachek or Fever Ray albums because it’s as good if not better as those two.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 02:48 (one week ago) link

I keep meaning to check it out

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 02:53 (one week ago) link

gorgeous record and agree that it deserves more love

I don't usually pay attention to lyrics but i love the little phrases that jump out at me from this - "these strangers aren't your friends", "hot dunes, an oasis"

Roz, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 03:20 (one week ago) link

I like those lyrics. It feels like it’s mirroring my current anxieties.

Both a song about impending global doom via global warming - which has been a major anxiety for me growing in a city with such drought that I suspect will turn into a desert in a matter of years - and growing out of the people and things that used to be fun for you. The only thing that has anchored me to my current city is friends and family and every passing year I feel like it’s not worth it anymore. But then “the world is a fuck” so it’s not like I feel there’s a better option out there.

It’s not sonically my favorite song in here - I think Dreamliner is the one I like the best atm - but the lyrics are probably the most relatable for me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 03:38 (one week ago) link

Dreamliner is my fave too <3

Roz, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 03:58 (one week ago) link

The song I was referring to was “astrology poisoning” btw!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 04:15 (one week ago) link


LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 10:09 (one week ago) link

love love love this album

donna rouge, Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:44 (one week ago) link

I like this album very muchly.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 May 2023 13:45 (one week ago) link

Good album! My favorites are "Astrology Poisoning" and "Hot Evening."

jaymc, Thursday, 25 May 2023 14:23 (one week ago) link

"Avalon Emerson & the Charm" reminds me of "Selena Gomez & the Scene" lol

jaymc, Thursday, 25 May 2023 14:25 (one week ago) link

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