Covidiots in music

Noel Gallagher
Aphex Twin
Ian Brown.

Who else?

Mutya Buena

Jim Corr

Madonna

Rev Horton Heat

oh yeah in that case add Smashmouth

M.I.A.

Wiz Khalifa

Great White

Tbf there are different tiers of covidiocy. Each is characterized by a particular fixation: face masks, vaccines, 5G, microchips, etc.

Sammy Hagar

and jim corr is right at the top of the tree

Renaud

Julian Cope

not really

he might well be, list is depressing enough already

M.I.A.

― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:39 PM (fifteen minutes ago)

Really?

Technically she's an anti-vaxxer, but she revealed it in reaction to the pandemic. Counts in my book.

Julian Cope? Really? That one makes me sad

Brown and Gallagher have always been fucking chavs, although the former has written some great songs at least

Vanilla Ice

M.I.A. is just the worst. She practically wanted a parade for getting an MBE, which seemed to nullify everything she once appeared to stand for

Tech N9ne

Kaitlyn Arelia Smith is anti-vaxx, so she should possibly go here, too

I’m just gonna say Kid Rock

Tom MacDonald

Mike Stock

Tbf there are different tiers of covidiocy. Each is characterized by a particular fixation: face masks, vaccines, 5G, microchips, etc.

― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul),

Aphex Twin said we were a police state. I think that puts him ahead of noel gallagher refusing to wear a mask. It puts him in the ian brown category,

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/72357

He was always a low level 9/11 truther but this was still a kick in the nuts

https://www.coronavirusworldnews.com/coronavirus-uk-the-thes-matt-johnson-spreads-bill-gates-covid-19-conspiracy-theory/

All weed-heads aren't they? Not judging just saying.

It's not easy to think outside of the hotbox.

xxxp RDJ also posted a bunch of covid truther links to his soundcloud when he uploaded that batch of tracks (I assumed that he uploaded them mainly to draw eyes to the links). Think he later removed the links.

what did Julian Cope do?

this tweet suggests he's being responsible but it's old

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, Julian Cope has – with great sadness – felt obliged to cancel the remaining five dates of his Winter 2020 tour. pic.twitter.com/o4q6EWumdn

— Julian Cope (@JulianHCope) March 16, 2020

Cope hasn't done anything. A poster decided to post his name as a 'joke'

To no great surprise, Ted Nugent

"covidiots"? ay ay ay

Nobody's mentioned Van Morrison yet?

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/van-morrison-fight-the-covid-19-pseudoscience-and-speak-up-1.4338343

Chuck D was posting conspiracy-flavored stuff a few months back; don’t know what his current line is.

Wiley

Yes Ivan, let’s bring back all those audiences that you clearly relish playing for any other time

Van Morrison has always had a few screws loose, unfortunately

Timely:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/entertainment-arts-54194498"> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/entertainment-arts-54194498

Sir Van Morrison has accused the government of "taking our freedom" in three new songs that protest against the coronavirus lockdown.

In the lyrics, he claims scientists are "making up crooked facts" to justify measures that "enslave" the population.

"The new normal, is not normal," he sings. "We were born to be free".

Oops, fucked up that link:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54194498"> https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54194498

Boomers gonna boomer

got nothing to do with being a boomer

yeah, almost all of these people are Generation X, not boomers

The list has a lot of people who have been known to be kind of gullible fools for some time, or people who generally have a reputation for ~not being very bright~ (Gallagher and Brown in particular) - but I've been struggling with my inner fanboy over the RDJ thing for some time, since he resurfaced around the time of Syro and started up with various truther discourse - so the covid stuff is not a surprise, but it's still v v depressing.

There are people where it kinda goes with their schtick, but with RDJ, I really wanna grab him by the shoulders and go "you are actually *smarter* than this?" He's bright, he's sciencey, he was educated, in that he got halfway to a degree in electrical engineering, this man is not a fool?

But I guess that's sometimes the thing with conspiracy thinking, that conspiracies can *be* especially flattering to people who have experienced being brighter than most people around them, (not hard in the music industry!) and this is one of those stereotypes I hate reinforcing, but Autists, especially ones with Aspergers, like RDJ, in particular are very susceptible to it - that if you are constantly noticing weird shit that neurotypicals just *don't*, that it leaves you very susceptible to believing that you have access to special truths that neurotypicals don't or can't see.

And for a conspiracy brainloop to really take hold, it's like it has to piggyback on something you already care a LOT about. (Like how anti-trans ideology can canibalise both feminist activism AND virulently anti-feminist activism, because these are issues that people care about very deeply!)

RDJ has always had a very serious anti-authoritarian streak. And this idea that 'Britain is a police state' - the thing is, there are many ways in which Britain already *is* very like a police state. All the jokes about 'rainy fascism island' are getting at something - the abuse of Stop and Search, the suppression of protest, the absolute impunity of the police to murder citizens with no repercussions, the wholesale deportation of the Windrush generation, etc. etc. etc. - but his established anti-authoritarian special interest doesn't seem to fixate on those genuine abuses. It leaps sideways onto something tangential which affects him (he can't leave his house) and instead of landing on something with a basis in fact (the Tory government is absolutely mishandling the epidemic) it leaps into 'being quarantined = oh noes here is the police state'.

Sorry to bring politics into ILM, if this was intended to just be a list thread. 'Why do people get caught up in weird conspiracy theories' is one of my long-term special interests, for obvious reasons.

you'd think maybe the group of absolute foolish poltroons (who most of you'd cross a road to avoid) who make up th C-19 truther gang might make RJD pause for thought somewhat? I find it unforgivable that ppl who are otherwise silent about genuine human rights abuses committed by the British state are jumping on the Icke bandwagon ffs!

Wiley's rep is so done in now he could become the official PIE spokesperson and it wouldn't be newsworthy!

Van Morrison already was affiliated with PIE as evidenced in his passive pedophilia song, Cypress Avenue!

maybe one for the PaedIdiots in Music thread where lots of legends of the delta blues who otherwise are treated with upmost reverence get brutally cancelled!

Is wealth and age the main factor (for musicians)?

idiot, idiot, idiot, not an idiot, not an idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot

https://youtu.be/Z_UGD7AazMI

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/morgan-wallen-not-playing-saturday-night-live-covid-1234796605/

thanks to this board I pointed out every "dick nose" I saw in public to my friend

Somehow this phenomenon makes me more angry/paranoid than seeing someone not wearing a mask at all.

hard to believe the rising bro country star didn't take the pandemic seriously

xpost yes because it's insulting.

"u seeee....it's almooooost there. almoooooost there. almoooost there. but nope, no nose-cover. on the droplets flow. u triggered?"

^yeah, it’s like—“you’re so close, wtf?”

Perhaps they don't understand how to properly wear the mask, or they find it uncomfortable/claustrophobic. As someone who's dealt with something called 'sighing syndrome' for decades now (look it up)...I can understand that anxiety.

I'm not gonna let myself get triggered every time I see someone not wearing a mask. I can wear my mask as responsibly as possible (with occasional slipups) and hope others follow. That's all I can do.

Perhaps they don't understand how to properly wear the mask, or they find it uncomfortable/claustrophobic.

oh well that's alright then

Don't understand how to wear a mask...after six months and google existing. Sure, i buy that.

I also buy that the average person I see wearing it incorrectly all coincidentally have medical conditions that make it harmful to wear. I'm sure the people riding coasters at Universal with masks on their chin are all medically compromised.

Like if you're going to wear it wrong, why bother with the charade at all? Droplets from nose is the easiest way to spread it. You aren't helping anybody if you don't cover it. It's like wearing a condom and poking holes in it cuz it's "more comfortable".

I hyperventilate sometimes during panic attacks and I had to wear mine 24/7 indoors while i stayed at the folks and my dad was recovering from surgery, even though I only visited the grocery store at the time. I managed.

I don't publicly shame or accost individuals who wear it wrong as maybe I don't have the full picture, plus rn I'll probably get stabbed. But yea, collectively? Fuck thst, I'll call it out as s practice.

It's the "what if there's an emergency" defense to defend pointless, disruptive texting during a movie, only with much higher stakes

I think the no nose covering folk I have seen are most likely people who pulled their mask aside for something, and forgot to replsce it. Like the 'wearing a mask alone in a car' thing, I think it's adequately explained by people being forgetful and distracted (as people tend to be).

nah some of them are just dicknoses

The employees at 7/11 who consistently chin-strapped knew very well where their mask was.

i had a guy at uhaul present a disgusting new variation that i hadnt seen before: mask down, covering only the bottom lip, upper lip over the mask, as if sucking on the top of the mask. Horrifying.

OMG

Like the 'wearing a mask alone in a car' thing, I think it's adequately explained by people being forgetful and distracted (as people tend to be).

Some ppl do this b/c they don't want to touch their face to remove it until they've had a chance to wash their hands. I used to do it myself -- but now that we know surfaces aren't as likely to be a source of transmission, I'm ok relying on hand sanitizer alone. (I knew I was probably being somewhat overcautious before, but I figured better to err on that side.)

I saw three dicknoses in the hospital today; one elderly patient and two nurses. Only one of those gets the benefit of any doubt over knowing how to wear a mask.

it's a form of checklisting. you're told you have to wear them to be in public places. you don't want to but you don't wanna get kicked out. so you half-ass it, knowing that fatigued employees are less likely to ask you to mask up or leave if you at least have it on.

it's kind of like your parents telling you that you have to finish your book report before you go to the movies, so you write a shitty three sentences that say "The grapes of wrath are about wrathful grapes." and go out anyway.

OTM. And its perfect for passive-aggressive deniability if anyone presses you on it: "oh i didnt realize it just slipped down like that, whoops"

i nicely asked the mask-sucking employee at uhaul that i dealt with to pull his mask up and he was astonished that i asked, grudgingly gave himself a dicknose, and then was doubly astonished i asked him to please pull it up all the way. ime dicknosers are generally just betting that other people will be too shy to ask them about it.

i sure af ain't about to tell some hulking no-neck to do it, and get shot up like a Dick Tracy villain

didnt RDJ once said that the sandy hook shootings were a government coverup to try and push for anti-gun rights legislator lol
also Gen X is just as bad as boomers, its just that they grew up with nirvana and green day so they like to tout themselves as superior

yeah sharing an era with Green Day has made me feel like a superhero

also Gen X is just as bad as boomers, its just that they grew up with nirvana and green day so they like to tout themselves as superior

I'm trying to parse what this means. I don't disagree that Gen Xers are just as bad about mask wearing as boomers, but I'm baffled about what Green Day and Nirvana have to do with it

That appears to be the first-ever ILX post by "1funeral2many," so I wouldn't bother spending too much time trying to parse it.

One monkey don't stop no show.

i nicely asked the mask-sucking employee at uhaul that i dealt with to pull his mask up and he was astonished that i asked, grudgingly gave himself a dicknose, and then was doubly astonished i asked him to please pull it up all the way. ime dicknosers are generally just betting that other people will be too shy to ask them about it.

We had a contractor over at our house (someone I didn't want to piss off) whose nose was exposed. I thought of a way to tactfully address it -- offered him a different mask ("If you need one, I know it's hot outside," etc.). He was cool about it; pulled up his for the remainder of the visit, I think it was a case of genuine forgetfulness.

I wouldn't bother spending too much time trying to parse it.

I am however going to spend quite a bit of time laughing at it.

I just didn't know if I missed, say, Tre Cool, revealing himself to be a massive Covidiot or something.

Assume Positive Intent. Trying to adopt this has brought me a lot of peace over recent years.

intent doesn't matter, impact does

https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/10/07/morgan-wallen-appears-party-maskless-ahead-snl-debut/5907167002/

No Saturday Night Live appearance now for country singer Morgan Wallen

Assume Positive Intent. Trying to adopt this has brought me a lot of peace over recent years.

Billy Corgan might give it a go soon.

Lennon's birthday today; no way he'd NOT be one. I mean if you just look at the lyrics on Sometime In New York City, he's a classic case. Yoko too, possibly.

"Free the prisoners, jail the judges
Free all the prisoners everywhere
All they want is truth and justice
All they need is love and care"

"We are born in a prison
Raised in a prison
Sent to a prison called school
We cry in a prison
We love in a prison
We dream in a prison like fools"

"There may be not much difference
Between Marilyn Monroe and Lenny Bruce
We check their coffins.
we're all water"

i check Lenny's coffin every Friday

those lyrics are just generic leftist sloganeering; just because current conspiracy theorists use anti-authoritarian rhetoric doesn't mean everyone else who does is simpatico

Yoko Ono, who is alive, had someone edit vintage clips of Lennon to give out a stay-safe-during-covid message (my day is worse for having found this out).

from the aquarium drunkard interview with probable trumpist tobin sprout:

Tobin Sprout: Right, the masks. I was on the board of the historical society, and we had to wear the masks for an hour and a half for this meeting. It was devastating and claustrophobic. We were far enough apart that we could take the masks off if we wanted to, and then there were a couple of people that didn’t want to, so everybody had to wear them. It is what it is, I guess.

"it is what it is"

sounds truly devastating, wearing a mask for 90 minutes

:(

god what a baby

I went to a podiatrist earlier today; she wore an N95 mask, and seemed like a cool enough person (I had seen her once before)... but when the conversation turned to masks, she turned out to be something of a covid "truther." It was kind of bizarre/unsettling.

It should be a shock that FIve Finger Death Punch just released an anti-mask video:

The video opens with a Ralph Waldo Emerson quote, "Fiction reveals truth that reality obscures," before launching into the action. The clip, shot in Los Angeles, starts with a Nancy Pelosi-esque political figure praising mask-wearers for being "compliant," even presenting them with a button displaying the Communist sickle emblem. There's also nods to zombies hoarding toilet paper and a work camp for the "People's Republic of America."

But eventually an uprising takes place with people ripping off their masks to head into a violent battle carrying American flags in pursuit of the female leader.

There are plenty of other symbolic nods throughout the video, including "The Great Awakening" flashing during a newscast, which is a reference to QAnon. There are also black-clad figures on leashes that are held by the female leader. They break free to start destroying property, which appears to be a reference to Antifa.

Read More: New FFDP Video Depicts Mask-Wearers as Communists | https://loudwire.com/five-finger-death-punch-living-the-dream-video/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

It should be a shock

it should?

they're not called five finger health punch

lol, sadly true

Yeah that sounds about right for FFDP. Oh well.

I stumbled across one or two songs of theirs that I liked, but that's about it.

ultimate FFDP would be better off if they weren't allowed to have arms anymore

In 1936 my GRANDAD JACK BROWN volunteered to the Internationale to fight franco's fascists in Spain. In 1941 he shot at Nazi Luftwaffe over Dover. SEE THE ENEMY.

— Ian Brown (@ianbrown) October 18, 2020

1985. I was a lazy ass pothead in a band.

Ian Brown is running a solid "don't do drugs" campaign this year

Ian Brown’s grandpa was cool