Covidiots in music

Noel Gallagher
Aphex Twin
Ian Brown.

Who else?

Mutya Buena

Jim Corr

Madonna

Rev Horton Heat

oh yeah in that case add Smashmouth

M.I.A.

Wiz Khalifa

Great White

Tbf there are different tiers of covidiocy. Each is characterized by a particular fixation: face masks, vaccines, 5G, microchips, etc.

Sammy Hagar

and jim corr is right at the top of the tree

Renaud

Julian Cope

not really

he might well be, list is depressing enough already

M.I.A.

― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:39 PM (fifteen minutes ago)

Really?

Technically she's an anti-vaxxer, but she revealed it in reaction to the pandemic. Counts in my book.

Julian Cope? Really? That one makes me sad

Brown and Gallagher have always been fucking chavs, although the former has written some great songs at least

Vanilla Ice

M.I.A. is just the worst. She practically wanted a parade for getting an MBE, which seemed to nullify everything she once appeared to stand for

Tech N9ne

Kaitlyn Arelia Smith is anti-vaxx, so she should possibly go here, too

I’m just gonna say Kid Rock

Tom MacDonald

Mike Stock

Tbf there are different tiers of covidiocy. Each is characterized by a particular fixation: face masks, vaccines, 5G, microchips, etc.

― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul),

Aphex Twin said we were a police state. I think that puts him ahead of noel gallagher refusing to wear a mask. It puts him in the ian brown category,

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/72357

He was always a low level 9/11 truther but this was still a kick in the nuts

https://www.coronavirusworldnews.com/coronavirus-uk-the-thes-matt-johnson-spreads-bill-gates-covid-19-conspiracy-theory/

All weed-heads aren't they? Not judging just saying.

It's not easy to think outside of the hotbox.

xxxp RDJ also posted a bunch of covid truther links to his soundcloud when he uploaded that batch of tracks (I assumed that he uploaded them mainly to draw eyes to the links). Think he later removed the links.

what did Julian Cope do?

this tweet suggests he's being responsible but it's old

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, Julian Cope has – with great sadness – felt obliged to cancel the remaining five dates of his Winter 2020 tour. pic.twitter.com/o4q6EWumdn

— Julian Cope (@JulianHCope) March 16, 2020

Cope hasn't done anything. A poster decided to post his name as a 'joke'

To no great surprise, Ted Nugent

"covidiots"? ay ay ay

Nobody's mentioned Van Morrison yet?

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/van-morrison-fight-the-covid-19-pseudoscience-and-speak-up-1.4338343

Chuck D was posting conspiracy-flavored stuff a few months back; don’t know what his current line is.

Wiley

Yes Ivan, let’s bring back all those audiences that you clearly relish playing for any other time

Van Morrison has always had a few screws loose, unfortunately

Timely:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/entertainment-arts-54194498"> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/entertainment-arts-54194498

Sir Van Morrison has accused the government of "taking our freedom" in three new songs that protest against the coronavirus lockdown.

In the lyrics, he claims scientists are "making up crooked facts" to justify measures that "enslave" the population.

"The new normal, is not normal," he sings. "We were born to be free".

Oops, fucked up that link:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54194498"> https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54194498

Boomers gonna boomer

got nothing to do with being a boomer

yeah, almost all of these people are Generation X, not boomers

The list has a lot of people who have been known to be kind of gullible fools for some time, or people who generally have a reputation for ~not being very bright~ (Gallagher and Brown in particular) - but I've been struggling with my inner fanboy over the RDJ thing for some time, since he resurfaced around the time of Syro and started up with various truther discourse - so the covid stuff is not a surprise, but it's still v v depressing.

There are people where it kinda goes with their schtick, but with RDJ, I really wanna grab him by the shoulders and go "you are actually *smarter* than this?" He's bright, he's sciencey, he was educated, in that he got halfway to a degree in electrical engineering, this man is not a fool?

But I guess that's sometimes the thing with conspiracy thinking, that conspiracies can *be* especially flattering to people who have experienced being brighter than most people around them, (not hard in the music industry!) and this is one of those stereotypes I hate reinforcing, but Autists, especially ones with Aspergers, like RDJ, in particular are very susceptible to it - that if you are constantly noticing weird shit that neurotypicals just *don't*, that it leaves you very susceptible to believing that you have access to special truths that neurotypicals don't or can't see.

And for a conspiracy brainloop to really take hold, it's like it has to piggyback on something you already care a LOT about. (Like how anti-trans ideology can canibalise both feminist activism AND virulently anti-feminist activism, because these are issues that people care about very deeply!)

RDJ has always had a very serious anti-authoritarian streak. And this idea that 'Britain is a police state' - the thing is, there are many ways in which Britain already *is* very like a police state. All the jokes about 'rainy fascism island' are getting at something - the abuse of Stop and Search, the suppression of protest, the absolute impunity of the police to murder citizens with no repercussions, the wholesale deportation of the Windrush generation, etc. etc. etc. - but his established anti-authoritarian special interest doesn't seem to fixate on those genuine abuses. It leaps sideways onto something tangential which affects him (he can't leave his house) and instead of landing on something with a basis in fact (the Tory government is absolutely mishandling the epidemic) it leaps into 'being quarantined = oh noes here is the police state'.

Sorry to bring politics into ILM, if this was intended to just be a list thread. 'Why do people get caught up in weird conspiracy theories' is one of my long-term special interests, for obvious reasons.

you'd think maybe the group of absolute foolish poltroons (who most of you'd cross a road to avoid) who make up th C-19 truther gang might make RJD pause for thought somewhat? I find it unforgivable that ppl who are otherwise silent about genuine human rights abuses committed by the British state are jumping on the Icke bandwagon ffs!

Wiley's rep is so done in now he could become the official PIE spokesperson and it wouldn't be newsworthy!

Van Morrison already was affiliated with PIE as evidenced in his passive pedophilia song, Cypress Avenue!

maybe one for the PaedIdiots in Music thread where lots of legends of the delta blues who otherwise are treated with upmost reverence get brutally cancelled!

Is wealth and age the main factor (for musicians)?

Yikes, now it’s A Guy Called Gerald (who I always thought was kinda a righteous dude) going on about the “manufactured disease” and dedicating his music to his own immune system, handed down to him by descendants older than Jesus.

A full-on denier no less, opines that COVID is a hoax and that not a single person has died from it. Well OK.

A full-on denier no less, opines that COVID is a hoax and that not a single person has died from it. Well OK.

Travis Tritt has leveled-up to Tucker-approved Covid pundit.

time to turn to the experts pic.twitter.com/6lNsMWjVCg

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 20, 2021

urgh, re GcG. fucks sake.

:(

This has been mentioned but dance music/DJ culture seems particularly incapable of dealing with the idea of a pandemic.

Despite a decent percentage of the dance music scene having spent the lead up to the pandemic wolfing down all manner of untested chemicals without a second thought.

Maybe the excessive amount of said chemicals are to blame for the bad takes.

I noticed some vaguely anti-vax stuff on Richie Hawtin's instagram a while back, but it seems he might actually be jabbed— it's his fans that are complete morons.

look man..... all you need is a smart drink or two

A fan, not an artist, but this is hilarious and worth watching.

Does it make me a bad person that I feel good about her losing all that money? 🤐 pic.twitter.com/G90ZVMbBv4

— chris evans (@chris_notcapn) October 19, 2021

I'm surprised Aldean played a show with vax/test requirements.

there's no way that guy is going to turn down a paycheck on principle.

Maybe the excessive amount of said chemicals are to blame for the bad takes.

I'd say the main thing is that if you're a DJ the nightlife is your livelihood and in many cases you've sort of forgotten how to function without it anyway. So you're v predisposed to believing lockdown conspiracy theories and from there it's just a small skip to anti-vaxx.

the peace-love-and-unity hippy end of dance music culture, the kind of person who wants to "keep politics out" of hedonism (as if it isn't inherently political), the type of person who identifies as left-wing and anti-Government etc - this allows people in dance music culture to align themselves as anti-vax without being attached to what you normally picture when you think of these people.

Yes. Never trust a hippy.

who are the other vocal anti-vaxxers / covid truthers in dance music, aside from a guy called gerald and rdj?

Danny Rampling has been quite vocal on the subject. Osunlade has tweeted some nonsense about it. Arp Frique did a bit praising Eric Clapton's new material (?!). I get what you're getting at though - I don't think it's a problem unique to dance music, I think it just seems more so because the culture skews younger and towards people you would expect to be dealing with it better.

It's not the same but a lot of names have played at events and parties that really shouldn't have taken place. "Plague raves" in areas where the infection rate is high and those in charge haven't done a lot to protect people from themselves. I get that people have to earn a living but could you, in good faith, play at a 2000-capacity venue back when this seemed like it was far from over?

Danny Rampling has been nuts for a number of years, predating Covid.

Dave Clarke (emphatically *not* a Covidiot) has been really good at using his social media platforms to call out a lot of his fellow DJs over those plague raves

Whoever runs the ‘Business Teshno’ Twitter / Insta account has also been great at holding the plague rave DJs to account.

i wasn't getting at anything, just generally curious!

Arp Frique did a bit praising Eric Clapton's new material

very unexpected and wrong on so many levels. :(

Yeah my comment wasn't really about ultra high profile DJs so much as local guys on my feeds, and anecdotally I've seen other ppl on here mention the same. Again, I think the pandemic just hit that culture harder, large amounts of ppl congregating is essential to it more than other genres.

for sure. one of the biggest disappointments for me was berghain opening its doors for bottega veneta to hold a "secret" fashion party

https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/bottega-veneta-berghain/

back when this seemed like it was far from over

……………

Yes. Never trust a hippy.

Except the actual hippies seem to be pretty sensible about this. The entire Dead & Co. tour has been outdoors and still required negative tests or vaccinations, the latter only to get in any of the general admission areas. When they encountered resistance in Florida about enforcing this due to Governor Dipshit, they noped out of their shows there. I was pleasantly surprised.

I figure it might have something to do with the members of the Dead being a) old and b) no doubt in some perpetual state of compromised immunity. Though if that were a real concern they probably wouldn't be comfortable with John Mayer standing so close to them.

I doubt he'd hit on them.

Undoubtedly the age thing plays into it, I understand they took it super seriously backstage, to the point that Mayer was Instagramming about how boring it was to be stuck in the hotel all the time. Can't say I blame them.

The best part of it was, imho, watching the minority of vocal MAGA idiots that are also somehow Deadheads get chased out, fuming about the vaxx requirements.

bit of nice news - non Covidiot Elvis Costello cancels his casino gig at Mystic Lake Casino because they wouldn't require vaccination/tests for entry and reschedules it at First Avenue (which, weirdly is his first time playing there in all these years

https://www.startribune.com/vaccine-requiring-elvis-costello-has-abruptly-switched-his-mystic-lake-gig-into-his-first-ave-debut/600108480/

Similar sitch, he's old and a recent cancer survivor.

That's a great upgrade in venue, I must say. Win-win!

I wonder if he'll do a Prince cover now? He's done quite a few over the years on tour.

kevin drew

back when this seemed like it was far from over

how many active cases were there at this point

Oh it's still far from over, of course. But the world looks very different from how it did 18 months ago. Here in Scotland you can actually go clubbing, there are parts of the world where it feels like we've made substantial progress.

You can actually go clubbing in the US, too. 2,000 people a day are still dying here though, and the UK has 11% of the planet's daily new cases.

Sorry, I hadn't checked the figures in the last 27 hours: here's an update from 21 minutes ago:

UK sees daily cases rise to over 50,000; WHO warns indoor socialising driving infections

That's the second-highest figure of the pandemic to date in the UK, and cases have been rising consistently there since August

(since June, really, but there was a two-week dip in summer)

you're right that this is very different from 18 months ago, when the UK had a whopping 3,900 cases a day to worry about. substantial progress has definitely been made!

ffs why are you getting into a pedantic argument when boxedjoy is clearly saying "I can't defend this person doing a show in a 2,000 person venue during the height of the pandemic", which I'm pretty sure you'd agree with. I didn't take the post as minimizing the pandemic.

sic is right to be annoyed - it's me buying into the media/Govt myth that because things are open again, this is all fine, and it absolutely isn't. It's worse than it ever was, and to allow myself to be fooled that because I can go dancing again I'm "safe" and not to be troubled by it is a fallacy, and sic is right to challenge me on that.

(should also be noted that while case levels are approaching winter 2020 levels in the UK, hospitalizations are nowhere near winter 2020 numbers. case resurgence or no, they've managed to decouple infections from hospitalizations better than many other nations, especially the US - source: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58954793)

no personal beef intended. gotta panic somewhere

wow the this complete piece of shit i'm quite shocked

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9648210/chris-brown-supports-kyrie-irving-vaccine-stance

fuck, they deserve each other

😬

😃 🙃

while case levels are approaching winter 2020 levels in the UK, hospitalizations are nowhere near winter 2020 numbers

Yes, it’s a bummer that cases are rising in the UK, but the situation does not seem to be “worse than it ever was” in terms of deaths or hospitalizations… hope those metrics don’t significantly worsen as cases rise; I know the vaccination campaign has been quite successful there.