Best/worst line on Gregg Alexander's 1992 single "The Truth"

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Cw: suicide, homophobia, antisemitism, in this early solo single by the "You Only Get What You Give" man

This is very much a battle for 2nd place

Vote for the one that holds the most grim fascination w/r/t how the people around him allowed it to happen I guess

Poll Results

OptionVotes
[screaming] I am a Jew! A JEW! And you're my Hitler! 19
[Slow Ride by Foghat] 9
I got fifty women, and damn, am I a fag 4
I'll pay my brother three dollars an hour to dig my burial ditch (ditch) 4
Are you ready? Are you ready? Here comes the lawsuit, baby! 3
No more lying / A wop-bom a loo-mop, this is the truth 3
Cause the things that make you happy make me me seeeeaaaaaaagghhhhd 2
I go to church / But damn, I think I’m God!! 1
Let's play, who! 1
Let it ring / Let it ring all month 1
I've heard it all / one little boy’s confession 😏 1
Now do me in-aw! Whoa! Who-who who yeah yeah oh no oh no / (Tell me what...) Oh no! 1
I’m so suicidal / I’ll kill you with a flower 1
I ain't your fuckin buddy! You smile like a coward 1
I ask the questions / but you are the riddle-aw! 1
Damn I hate money / but man I'm so rich 1
So come on, take me alive! 0
Man, I’m such a winner / I'm a loser 0
Here it comes! Here it comes! Here it comes! Here it comes! 0
Who, oh no, baby! 0
I am a giver and I'm a user 0
I don’t follow fashion / cause man it's such a drag 0
And them things you want so bad I've already haaaaaaaad 0
No more lying, this is the truth 0
I hate the future / You (/yet?) try to look mod, whoa-who! 0
[whispering] You don't wanna know 0


Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 11 September 2020 10:55 (one week ago) link

look we can skirt around it but i think we already know the real answer

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 September 2020 10:57 (one week ago) link

He should've given this one to Ronan Keating.

chap, Friday, 11 September 2020 12:00 (one week ago) link

browsed through these thinking “hmm these are all pretty bad” then happened upon the correct answer and voted instantly

ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:07 (one week ago) link

Holy fucking shit what is this

Boring, Maryland, Friday, 11 September 2020 13:17 (one week ago) link

you can't appreciate that line properly until you've heard him "sing" it

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:19 (one week ago) link

He should've given this one to Ronan Keating.

lmao

also, jfc at....all of this

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 11 September 2020 13:19 (one week ago) link

lawsuit deserves 2nd place so i went with that

billstevejim, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:00 (one week ago) link

this might be the single worst song I've ever heard and honestly I'm pretty impressed by it

frogbs, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:09 (one week ago) link

don't just read the lyrics baby you gotta listen to it, trust me

frogbs, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:09 (one week ago) link

jesus fucking christ

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:19 (one week ago) link

i'll pay my brother three dollars an hour to dig my burial ditch (ditch!)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:23 (one week ago) link

that one got my vote lol

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:25 (one week ago) link

same. had "here comes the lawsuit" and "slow ride by foghat" been one option though i would've voted for it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:27 (one week ago) link

it's the best kind of bad when you really have to wonder what was happening that allowed this to exist

billstevejim, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:40 (one week ago) link

important to note that Gregg Alexander got a second chance in the music biz and made the most out of it so if you're ever feeling down in the dumps no more lying well this is the truth

frogbs, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:41 (one week ago) link

Oh, it's the one on Stanley Son of Theodore. I must've always fast forwarded to Alison Moyet, unless I somehow forgot about this.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Friday, 11 September 2020 14:52 (one week ago) link

I'm noticing a theme in this dude's songs where he does lots of "ow yea c'mon baby whoa oh no" things

billstevejim, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:54 (one week ago) link

He was thematically consistent

billstevejim, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:54 (one week ago) link

music was a mistake

cat, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:17 (one week ago) link

oh who am I kidding, this is incredible

cat, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:18 (one week ago) link

oh that "50 women" line, holy shit

amazing to think this guy apparently got massive stage fright which is why he wore that bucket hat

frogbs, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:21 (one week ago) link

Not so amazing when you think about it, do u see?

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 September 2020 15:29 (one week ago) link

too much truth

ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 September 2020 15:30 (one week ago) link

Voted "I got 50 women..." but that was before I got to the end of the song where he breaks into Slow Ride. That made me laugh harder than I have in weeks, so thanks for that

J. Sam, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:35 (one week ago) link

this is just such a rich cornucopia

cat, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:42 (one week ago) link

I've definitely seen worse than this being repped in all seriousness on ILX.

chap, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:48 (one week ago) link

the song makes you hate/but AHH WEEE HA I think it's great

frogbs, Friday, 11 September 2020 16:59 (one week ago) link

melroseplace-core

billstevejim, Friday, 11 September 2020 17:00 (one week ago) link

Given the lawsuit line and his future in the New Radicals, there's obviously some self-awareness in here. But the fact that you can't pinpoint exactly how much is what makes it so weird for me

Thoia Thoing, Maryland (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 September 2020 17:11 (one week ago) link

How has Internet/meme culture not discovered this????

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 11 September 2020 22:03 (one week ago) link

He's bottled it and tried to ironically distance himself from the wacky lyrics and he's fucking fell in the gap very badly

He seems like enough of a dipshit to have actually cleared the Foghat sample but still done the lawsuit line imo

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 11 September 2020 22:24 (one week ago) link

also a stolen bit from the dead milkmen

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 September 2020 22:27 (one week ago) link

How has Internet/meme culture not discovered this????

Not a single person under the age of 30 gives any shits about New Radicals.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 September 2020 23:34 (one week ago) link

What did I just witness

The little engine that choogled (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 12 September 2020 00:45 (one week ago) link

idk Johnny I don't think anyone's watching this thinking "wow! can you believe this guy wrote a hit song 6 years later!"

frogbs, Saturday, 12 September 2020 02:12 (one week ago) link

I'm with Whiney and listening to it a second time (lol) he seems not entirely serious BUT! It was a single! From a major label in 1992! Which means the record company thought this could get radio/MTV play! And nothing about the video or the packaging/artwork of the single and the album it came from give an indication that this is given with a wink or meant to to be some kind of novelty song. If this had come out after, say, "Detachable Penis" or "Push th' Little Daisies" it might be different but 1992 college rock was all deadly serious.

Boring, Maryland, Saturday, 12 September 2020 02:55 (one week ago) link

BTW the album was called "Intoxifornication" lol.

Boring, Maryland, Saturday, 12 September 2020 02:56 (one week ago) link

ive never heard this lmao what on earthhh

Spottie, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:51 (six days ago) link

right

it's horrible and it's my new favorite thing

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:53 (six days ago) link

could not imagine a more fitting video either, this is art baby

Spottie, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:02 (six days ago) link

i had to make sure it wasnt a shreds video before commenting

Spottie, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:04 (six days ago) link

i cry laughing every time i get to the foghat part

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:05 (six days ago) link

christ

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:18 (six days ago) link

Holy shit, I started laughing before he even started singing. He sounds extremely constipated. This is an annoyingly huge chorus and ubiquity away from taking "What's Up" off the Mount Rushmore of musical shit.

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:20 (six days ago) link

How is this not a meme by now?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:36 (six days ago) link

it does have that inscrutable, Tommy Wiseauian quality to it

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:54 (six days ago) link

No more lying / A wop-bom a loo-mop, this is the truth

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:56 (six days ago) link

omfg this is astonishingly awful

can't get over his look in the video, it's p hot and i wish i had the hair or the incredibly close shaving skills to pull it off, and at the same time it seems pretty blatantly clear that the video director figured "this song is godawful but if i play my cards right, i could market this clip to some spoof film that wants to parody Val Kilmer's performance in The Doors"

voted for the Holocaust line just over the homophobia line. even WITHOUT those it's a trainwreck --- come back, Silverchair and Noel Gallagher, all is forgiven.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 September 2020 12:20 (five days ago) link

seriously I think the only recent-ish ILM discovery i could compare this to is when Neanderthal made us all listen to "Planes"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 September 2020 12:22 (five days ago) link

Please what is "Planes"?

chap, Thursday, 17 September 2020 13:52 (five days ago) link

I've always kind of loved You Get What You Give but The Truth is the awkwardness of the closing "rap" in the former blown up to song length.

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:01 (five days ago) link

Please what is "Planes"?

― chap, Thursday, September 17, 2020 9:52 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sensual aircraft, iirc.

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:03 (five days ago) link

Richard Marx meets Baz Luhrmann

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:05 (five days ago) link

cuz the things that make you happy make me saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaæääd

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:20 (five days ago) link

Current fave is "let it ring all month." All *month*? That's, like, 30 days of truth ringing! (but no more)

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:27 (five days ago) link

most wtf lyric in Jefferson Airplane's "Planes"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:37 (five days ago) link

I don't think I am mentally capable of listening to this song and watching the video at the same time. Too powerful.

Simon H., Thursday, 17 September 2020 14:57 (five days ago) link

i'm gonna need to know which month before i vote.

andrew m., Thursday, 17 September 2020 15:00 (five days ago) link

honestly the lyrics are dreadful but the vocal is much, much worse

Simon H., Thursday, 17 September 2020 15:05 (five days ago) link

This is a great Thurston Moore parody.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 17 September 2020 16:42 (five days ago) link

The delivery on 'I ask the questions but you are the riddl-aw' is underappreciated ITT

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 17 September 2020 23:36 (five days ago) link

He was just a little boy and he sat there in his school

And that boy grew up to be... Gregg Alexander. His love of planes become love of truth.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Friday, 18 September 2020 04:00 (four days ago) link

Michigan Rain rocks.

I_Got_Loaded, Friday, 18 September 2020 04:03 (four days ago) link

idk, right now "*whispering* You don't wanna know" is doing such a succinct job of summing all of it up.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 18 September 2020 04:13 (four days ago) link

On third watch I think the way he repeats 'ditch' may be the most cringeworthy bit.

chap, Friday, 18 September 2020 11:28 (four days ago) link

Doctor Casino at 8:20 17 Sep 20

it seems pretty blatantly clear that the video director figured "this song is godawful but if i play my cards right, i could market this clip to some spoof film that wants to parody Val Kilmer's performance in The Doors"
or ted levine's performance in silence of the lambs.

peace, man, Friday, 18 September 2020 12:08 (four days ago) link

Cos when the night is falling
You cannot see the ditch
Ditch

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 18 September 2020 13:32 (four days ago) link

the weird thing about this song is that it sounds like an outrageous parody, but one that isn't even funny.
how did such a terrible thing get written, performed and released without everyone involved saying "you know what, this really isnt working"?

好 now 烧烤 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 18 September 2020 13:41 (four days ago) link

voted for "Cause the things that make you happy make me me seeeeaaaaaaagghhhhd" bc the way he sings that last word is like nails-on-a-chalkboard annoying

na (NA), Friday, 18 September 2020 13:48 (four days ago) link

did they not have multi-take editing back then or?

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 18 September 2020 13:50 (four days ago) link

the weird thing is this song is not that far away from "you get what you give" which i love

na (NA), Friday, 18 September 2020 13:53 (four days ago) link

it really isn't. there are loads of lyrical similarities. luckily he worked out how to sing a bit better by 1998

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 18 September 2020 13:57 (four days ago) link

This is better than You Get What You Give - less boring.

chap, Friday, 18 September 2020 14:10 (four days ago) link

feel like i can divide my life pretty cleanly into before i heard "the truth" and after

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 18 September 2020 14:52 (four days ago) link

Enjoying the completely superfluous Danielle Brisebois backing vocal that pops up on the 2nd chorus

Reckon I might be able to work up the courage to listen to "Smoking In Bed" next week

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 18 September 2020 15:28 (four days ago) link

This is better than You Get What You Give - less boring.

"This year's Thanksgiving? It was alright, I guess. Last year's was more memorable because I got food poisoning."

Simon H., Friday, 18 September 2020 15:33 (four days ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 19 September 2020 00:01 (three days ago) link

This is so fag v hitler v slow ride.

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:28 (three days ago) link

Wow, the look on my wife's face when slow ride kicked in changed from general annoyance with being asked to watch this travesty to revulsion bordering on horror.

James Gandolfini the Grey (PBKR), Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:43 (three days ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 20 September 2020 00:01 (two days ago) link

slow ride!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 September 2020 00:59 (two days ago) link

take it easy!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 September 2020 01:00 (two days ago) link

this guy wrote "the game of love"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 September 2020 02:16 (two days ago) link

everything deserving got a vote. you love to see it.

Simon H., Sunday, 20 September 2020 02:20 (two days ago) link


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