SHINE: 20 Brilliant Indie Hits

More importantly what are the twins saying???

No, he's not one of the other original Four Shamen. (The others were the MacKenzie brothers - no, not Bob and Doug, they had more Scottishy names, Derek and Keith IIRC - and sometimes a blonde girl called Alison and sometimes a darkhaired dude named Peter? Here is a picture of the original Four Shamen: https://www.last.fm/music/The+Shamen/+images/0ea5b54213f556beaa78bd8b9e3a484a it is not one of those dudes)

They had already gone to a Two Shamen stage by Phorward because it's just Will and Colin in the You Me and Everything video - this new Third Shamen is ... a total rando! I'm sure it's a hugely important reference to some obscure bit of esoteric or paranormal or heremetic lore, as it turns out *everything* in their videos usually is.

That's probably what the twins are saying, too, some super-important esoteric secret lore.

Wait! Wait! It might be Evil Eddie (Richards, as apparently there are multiple Evil Eddies)?

a man who single-handedly contributed more to music than everybody on this poll

Also looks a bit like Neil McLellan who went on to work with The Prodigy (and is credited on the Make it Mine single)

https://theprodigy.info/members/others.html

It could be either of them TBH, I am so bad with faces - wish I could find a younger pic of Evil Eddie Richards, as my prosopagnosia is so bad that they both just look like bald older men with thick eyebrows.

But, as I said - the seemingly most random and inexplicable bits of Shamen references turn out to be the most important part of all! It probably is someone hugely important and groundbreaking in dance music.

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I thought my Dino Jr vote might be lonelier. Good to see red-blooded American rock and roll holding its own.

I haven't heard All Together Now in forever so I've got now clue if it's aged well, but I remember liking it and am a little sad it got zero votes.

*no clue

I had the 2x cassette of Now 26 and much prefer Creep in that context of Eurodance hits etc over Pablo Honey

Is Welcome to Paradise the Cookie version or Kerplunk? :)

^ fuckin' autocorrect. making Green Day album titles more reasonable.

I had Now 24 also. Not sure which one was better, leaning 26 tho. Have you polled all the Now comps yet? What about Spoon man by Underworld vs. Spoonman by Soundgarden? :)

heartwarming to see so many supporters of the For Britain Movement who still feel comfortable on ILM

xps it's the Dookie one

Now 24 had a lot of decent moody dance tunes on it iirc

Finding it hilarious that 25 years later, Suede and Elastica are both raking in 4x more votes than Blur (or indeed Oasis!). S/he who laughs last, laughs longest.

I do actually like James - Sit Down and The Farm - Altogether Now far more than a whole heap of stuff that *did* get votes, but still. Obviously not enough to vote for them.

(I still do wish I'd voted for Jesus Jones)

I remember 'Sit Down' being popular with the people who helped run the local church youth club when I was a kid. Always hear it as having Christian connotations therefore. Altogether Now, less so, but they've both plough a furrow of unity, hope, smile-on-your-brother togetherness etc that was at-odds with the nihilistic hedonism of UK rave culture and Gen X rock

I don't know, sounds pretty PLUR man

Maybe 'Come Together', 'Sweet Harmony' etc also count here, but those felt more ethereal, detached: huggy ecstasy "mate I love you" sentiments rather than anything particularly earnest

Branwell beat me to it there

"Altogether Now" was a UK baggy song about the first world war. A slow rave tune for veteran's day. Have we had a thread for 'Hit singles with weird concepts' yet?

Just realised for the first time in like 20 years that it is All Together Now, not Altogether Now, which really changes the meaning for me?!?!?

*30 years

Blur and Oasis being rated so low is down to being massively massively overplayed I'm sure. People voting Smiths in 2020 is baffling. Zombie getting the same amount of votes as Weirdo is an affront. That DIno Jr song isn't really that good. House Of Love should have been higher - song still sounds great even today. Glad Green Day got some votes - WTP is probably my favourite song by them

Is there a difference between Altogether and All Together? Hmmm.....

All Together Now = everyone pitch in and do this at the same time

Altogether Now = endless, eternal, forever now of infinite cosmic space, maaaaaan

I went with Shine On in the end although I don't think I ever warmed to the re-recorded version, which this presumably is, but probably just for churlish corny indie fuxor reasons.

3 votes for 'Zombie' and 2 for 'At The Link It's Easy' pls explain your reasoning here.

Honestly I had not heard All Together Now in decades, and trying to put it on now - you know, fun baggy beat, that's cool - but it's really impossible to listen to the lyrics or watch the codgers in the pub NOW - without some weird intrusive voice in the back of my head going POPPIES POPPPIES POOPPPPPIIIIIIEEESSSSSSS

And I know that's pretty much the opposite message of the song, but WWI imagery in the UK has become so irrevocably tainted these days that I just can't.

OTM. It’s why a song like this sounds so quaint in today’s context.

(I still do wish I'd voted for Jesus Jones)

well, at least i wasn't alone.
i still listen to JJ and still enjoy the albums when the urge kicks in.
they still put on a cracking live show if you ever get the chance.

so for non UK-ers, the competing compilation brand was The Best... Album In The World... Ever! series which ran from 95-98... volume 1 is

Supergrass – "Alright"
Blur – "Girls and Boys"
Elastica – "Waking Up"
Ash – "Girl From Mars"
Oasis – "Whatever"
Edwyn Collins – "A Girl Like You"
The Charlatans – "The Only One I Know"
Pulp – "Do You Remember the First Time?"
McAlmont & Butler – "Yes"
Morrissey – "Everyday Is Like Sunday"
Radiohead – "High and Dry"
The Cranberries – "Zombie"
The Smashing Pumpkins – "Today"
Manic Street Preachers – "La Tristesse Durera (Scream to a Sigh)"
James – "Sit Down"
The Boo Radleys – "Wake Up Boo!"
Suede – "Animal Nitrate"
The Verve – "This is Music"
Inspiral Carpets – "I Want You"
Therapy? – "Screamager"

The Smiths – "This Charming Man"
The Jesus & Mary Chain – "April Skies"
Oasis – "Supersonic"
The Stone Roses – "Fools Gold" (Original version)
Stereo MC's – "Connected"
The Prodigy – "Out of Space"
The Shamen – "Destination Eschaton" (Beatmasters 7" remix)
New Order – "True Faith '94"
The Chemical Brothers – "Leave Home"
Fluke – "Bullet"
Primal Scream – "Loaded"
EMF – "Unbelievable"
Jesus Jones – "Real, Real, Real"
Depeche Mode – "Personal Jesus" (7" version)
Blur – "Chemical World"
The Levellers – "15 Years"
The Auteurs – "Lenny Valentino"
Skunk Anansie – "I Can Dream"
Dreadzone – "Captain Dread"
The Future Sound of London – "Lifeforms"

this was a really big deal for me, this one. Seven years old in 1995, getting my music taste from TOTP and The Chart Show, and this being one that my parents would let me borrow for my own bedroom because they already had most of the parent albums this stuff appeared on. I wonder how much of this stuff I actually like and how much of it is residual fondness and nostalgia.

I'm sure I had one of those. Would've been discounted to no more than £2.99 otherwise I wouldn't have had the means. Shine (1) was the only Shine I ever bought despite being basically the target market for it.

Think it was Volume 6 which is odd because it contains some of my most-detested songs (Smile, Cast, Dodgy) and lots of the good ones I'd have had on albums anyway. Must've been for that sweet FSOL cut idk.

Volume 7 is horrendous, don't even look at it

I'm finding it hard to believe they'd released 7 of these things by 1996. Were they pumping one out every 3 months?

(PS quite like a few of the ones on Vol 7)...

Speaking of which, anyone remember the Volume booklet/CD compilations? I only had Vol.11 but it was responsible for me getting into a ton of bands

http://www.bandplanet.co.uk/Oldsite/Compilations/Volume.htm

Didn't have any of those but did get (and still have) all the Trance Europe Express ones

https://img.discogs.com/9Wdr3qGj0DM0RIyUOCI7PXBgPcM=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-85763-1201824859.jpeg.jpg

vol 7 was 1998, heading dangerously into Robbie Williams/ Texas/Travis territory iirc

Ugh Texas

Is this where I confess I actually had a huge soft spot for Travis, they were totally inoffensive but also comforting in the same way that oatmeal porridge is comforting on a cold morning.

(Also, they were extraordinarily kind blokes and at least 2 of them were fans of a former band of mine so I am probably biased.)

xps discogs has different details on Shine 7 but yeah there was a point c1997 where Britpop split into AOR tedium and more progressive OK Computer/Vanishing Point type stuff

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Shine-7/release/1304398

sorry dl I thought you were talking about the 'Best... Album in the World' series. I was, just then!

ah i c. apols

I think I'm scarred by repeated workplace Radio 2/Virgin Radio in the late 90s/early 2000 so the first few jangly seconds of Why Does It Always Rain On Me provoke an actual eye-twitch. Have A Nice Day by Stereophonics is the same but even worse

heartwarming to see so many supporters of the For Britain Movement who still feel comfortable on ILM

Hey, I was doing my part to make America great again.

Travis were unlucky in that they had some great pop moments, but faded just as the bands who were to be big got a kind of permanence. Yeah, if I never hear "whydoesitalwayzetc" again that's gonna be fine, but it's the only one that get plaid.

xpost oh you just said so..