Geogaddi: The Poll

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We've never done this. How is that possible? Omitted "From One Source All Things Depend" since it was a Japan-only bonus track. Poll closes on Halloween.

No idea which of these I will vote for.

Ready Let's Go
Music Is Math
Beware The Friendly Stranger
Gyroscope
Dandelion
Sunshine Recorder
In The Annexe
Julie And Candy
The Smallest Weird Number
1969
Energy Warning
The Beach At Redpoint
Opening The Mouth
Alpha And Omega
I Saw Drones
The Devil Is In The Details
A Is To B As B Is To C
Over The Horizon Radar
Dawn Chorus
Diving Station
You Could Feel The Sky
Corsair
Magic Window


Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 23 August 2020 20:17 (two months ago) link

julie and candy

ciderpress, Sunday, 23 August 2020 20:35 (two months ago) link

this is hard. it's a whole album of 'deep cuts', so to speak, save for maybe Music Is Maths and 1969, which strike me as the pop singles on here.

A is to B... is interesting - listen to it backwards for a big surprise

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Sunday, 23 August 2020 20:35 (two months ago) link

it is in many ways my favourite of their albums, but it does get vaporous towards the end, to the point where I can hardly remember what those last few tunes sound like. can't tell if this is a quality or a problem.

I really really disliked Beware The Friendly Stranger and the fact it's placed so near the front of the album so as to ruin the flow so badly

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Sunday, 23 August 2020 20:38 (two months ago) link

that's the best bit though

this album is pretty ok

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets (Left), Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:32 (two months ago) link

“opening the mouth”

brimstead, Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:37 (two months ago) link

The Beach At Redpoint without even a 2nd thought.

calzino, Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:38 (two months ago) link

it's a whole album of 'deep cuts', so to speak, save for maybe Music Is Maths and 1969, which strike me as the pop singles on here.

also Alpha and Omega, according to me

lukas, Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:38 (two months ago) link

also the BoC track I listen to the most, also my vote

lukas, Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:39 (two months ago) link

this album is a rough one for me, it felt like being blasted with sunlight compared to their previous work. the higher production values add a level of detail that vaguely horrifies me, like HD resolution video of Marc Albert where you can see the makeup lines or something

brimstead, Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:42 (two months ago) link

marv not mark

brimstead, Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:42 (two months ago) link

I disagree that it peters out towards the end, I think the album starts out a little samey but really gets far out there as it goes on. “Dawn chorus” and “you could feel the sky” both pretty huge. and the interludes... BoC does the best interludes

brimstead, Sunday, 23 August 2020 21:45 (two months ago) link

surprised no mention yet of "Sunshine Recorder," which is in the running for me alongside 5 or 6 others

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 23 August 2020 23:47 (two months ago) link

BoC does the best interludes

They really do

paolo, Monday, 24 August 2020 06:30 (two months ago) link

Probably 1969. Or Julie and Candy.

paolo, Monday, 24 August 2020 06:30 (two months ago) link

Hate the interludes on this, they break up the flow, and make the whole thing too damn long. One or two might be ok, but every other track? Get outta here.

neith moon (ledge), Monday, 24 August 2020 09:12 (two months ago) link

aside from dawn chorus i don't give a shit about the last nine tracks on this. voted julie and candy.

neith moon (ledge), Monday, 24 August 2020 09:21 (two months ago) link

"Sunshine Recorder" is huge, but I think for the dark heart of the record it'll be hard to go past "The Devil Is in the Details". Oh god what sadist would poll THIS album and force me to select ONE track? Might vote "Magic Window" in protest.

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 24 August 2020 09:43 (two months ago) link

Music Is Math, boringly.

nashwan, Monday, 24 August 2020 09:43 (two months ago) link

yeah that's what I plumped for. It's a really great opener and reveals a fuller sound for this album than they'd previously explored. 1969 used to annoy me because sometimes the voice sounds like it isn't quite in key with the music, but I got used to it. there's nothing that isn't brooding or implacable about this album

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 24 August 2020 10:25 (two months ago) link

Still their best album. Julie and Candy

J. Sam, Monday, 24 August 2020 13:15 (two months ago) link

Surprised more people aren’t going with Dawn Chorus.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 August 2020 13:44 (two months ago) link

Same, so I voted for it.

pomenitul, Monday, 24 August 2020 14:22 (two months ago) link

Was initially thinking Sunshine Rec but while that's cool it's a familiar Boards mode where the song builds up to chopped up vocals and backwards stuff. So I decided it had to be one of the less strident tunes like The Beach At Redpoint or You Could Feel The Sky.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Monday, 24 August 2020 15:13 (two months ago) link

Voted for Julie & Candy and then almost immediately regretted not going for The Beach at Redpoint.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 24 August 2020 21:46 (two months ago) link

My least favorite of their albums to listen to as a whole, but has some of their best songs. Really establishes an uneasy emotional tension that properly blossoms in Tomorrow's Harvest.

Really tough for me to pick between Music is Math, Julie and Candy, and Alpha and Omega so might as well go for the latter given the attention to the first two above.

octobeard, Monday, 24 August 2020 23:29 (two months ago) link

We should've polled MHTRTC first. Perhaps even Hi Scores, although I can't imagine not voting for 'Everything You Do Is a Balloon'.

pomentiful (pomenitul), Monday, 24 August 2020 23:31 (two months ago) link

this album is supremely creepy, "beach at redpoint" is probably the creepiest moment so that's the correct choice for me. "opening the mouth" is my favorite interlude.

the late great, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 01:10 (two months ago) link

xp no "nlogax" no credibility

the late great, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 01:12 (two months ago) link

Voted for “Alpha And Omega” yesterday & it occurred to me just now that with this poll wrapping up on Halloween I might not even remember that fact unless I put it on the record now. Could’ve voted for any number of Geogaddi cuts, it’s a record I love, but “Alpha And Omega” has a sort of forceful menace to it that feels unique in the BoC catalogue and I thought it might otherwise be overlooked.

really looking forward to wearily scrolling past all your posts (Champiness), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 02:33 (two months ago) link

"beach at redpoint" is probably the creepiest moment so that's the correct choice for me.

How I'm voting as well

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 03:51 (two months ago) link

I picked

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 04:58 (two months ago) link

Uh whoops. I picked Beach as my favorite too, but I'd always thought it was one of the least creepiest on this album! At least compared to the more outwardly/intentionally "unsettling" stuff with disembodied voices like Devil is in the Details. "Haunting" feels like a better descriptor than "creepy" in this case... but even that doesn't really feel accurate to me personally; I think it's a very pretty song honestly lol.

I was not the biggest fan of this album the first 5x i heard it... now I love it more and more every time I listen to it. I love most of BOC's output (even Campfire Headphase, which IS awesome even if it drags at the end) so I'm not sure if I'd say it's their best or my favorite. But it's the one that feels the most rewarding on repeated listens easily.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 05:11 (two months ago) link

Idk if creepy is exactly what I get from it; "hypnotic" maybe? If it's pretty, it's much less conventionally so than a lot of BoC, with those layers of dissonance - and the blurred, distant voices.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 08:52 (two months ago) link

I guess dissonance between layers is common on this album tbf.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 08:58 (two months ago) link

Music is Math or Alpha and Omega, probably.

chap, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:20 (two months ago) link

Instinctively it's Julie And Candy. What an incredible sounding album - great for clearing out the ears, and a room.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 10:51 (two months ago) link

I'm a little surprised at the love for Alpha & Omega. It was a standout on first few listens but it makes me think of hippies sat around banging "tablas" over a JMJ record. Not so much menace as overbearing joss-stick fug. Still alright though.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 12:55 (two months ago) link

I hadn't listened to this start-to-finish in a long time so I did before voting. It's still how I remember - exhausting, especially in headphones or in the car. There's a lot going on with each individual sound and I suppose it doesn't help that I work in audio. My ears just glom onto the weird things going on and I try to dissect everything. I wonder what they would do with a modern pop factory studio where 80, 90+ tracks are going - each one tweaked to an inch of its life.

I really like any time a Geogaddi song comes on shuffle, but what's great about relistening to it now is staying with it when you hit the run of Dawn Chorus, Diving Station, and You Could Feel The Sky. I voted for one of those.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 30 August 2020 10:18 (one month ago) link

Dawn Chorus sounds like Moby's Porcelain being played on two out of sync turntables and i think that's what frustrates me about the majority of The Campfire Headphase

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Sunday, 30 August 2020 11:36 (one month ago) link

Just gave this a quick once through for the first time in ages. Favourites are still Corsair and 1969 and it's not a patch on Tomorrow's Harvest. Voting Corsair

or something, Sunday, 30 August 2020 11:36 (one month ago) link

this is quite interesting lol

https://soundcloud.com/ujdaq/porcelain-chorus-moby-boards?ref=clipboard

glad I'm not the only one who thought this

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Sunday, 30 August 2020 11:48 (one month ago) link

N
Eden 2w

or something, Sunday, 30 August 2020 15:44 (one month ago) link

Good comments upthread. I love many of these songs but never listen to the album as a whole, unlike their other records. Feels exhausting.
I'll vote for Music is Math (although for me it only makes sense whith the Ready Let's Go intro). Love the tone on that one and tha track seems to encapsulate their whole thing: codes and numbers + traces of the past (inside the present).

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 08:51 (one month ago) link

I agree with it being exhausting. I listened to Hi Scores last night... gawd it’s pretty much perfect

brimstead, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:56 (one month ago) link

it's a whole album of 'deep cuts', so to speak, save for maybe Music Is Maths and 1969, which strike me as the pop singles on here.

agree w that. Kinda feel like I should pick one of the deep cuts within the deep cuts here, but that wouldn't be the track I like the most. Appropriately, the one I do like the most is the one DL thinks sounds like it should be on Campfire Headphase (if I'm understanding him correctly): Dawn Chorus.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:44 (one month ago) link

btw feel like it's not really a BOC thread until DL shits on Campfire Headphase lol

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:45 (one month ago) link

haha. I really tried to hold off this time

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 21:31 (one month ago) link

Not dl, but it's not uppermost in my mind when I think about their finest moments.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 21:33 (one month ago) link

I once read in an interview that they purposefully created Campfire Headphase as a positive, untroubled listening experience- a place to go when you need to inhabit a restorative space for a while

in that spirit I certainly thrashed it during a time in my life when I was coming home from work stressed and unhappy - there are times when I want the dread & darkness of Geogaddi or Tomorrow's Harvest but not always

umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:38 (one month ago) link

The relative ambiguity of Music Has the Right to Children suited them best.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:39 (one month ago) link

still feel Tomorrow's Harvest is their masterpiece LP

IABPOITC probably my favourite release of theirs, but I'd gladly listen to any of their albums or EPs at the right moment - I don't consider any of them weak

umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:45 (one month ago) link

PS I don't quite know how to describe this feeling but the idea that BOC might one day release new music somehow BLOWS MY MIND like nothing else in my music fandom? it would be like a new Syd Barrett LP or something.

umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:49 (one month ago) link

Take heart, The Symbol Remains will be out next month.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 22:50 (one month ago) link

still feel Tomorrow's Harvest is their masterpiece LP

correct take

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 00:04 (one month ago) link

i also feel that way but this was my favorite before it came out

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 00:18 (one month ago) link

Take heart, The Symbol Remains will be out next month.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, September 2, 2020 12:50 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol.

Not shitting on it but Campfire Headphase is def the weakest of the bunch for me, too. The others are still in fairly regular rotation. They'll never top IABPOITC though; it's revenant.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 07:23 (one month ago) link

Geogaddi is the first of theirs I got into and probably remains my favourite, though MHTRTC and Harvest are of equal quality.

chap, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 09:59 (one month ago) link

They'll never top IABPOITC though; it's revenant.

Good way of putting it!

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 12:51 (one month ago) link

I think the pre TCH stuff now sounds (perhaps unsurprisingly) relatively adolescent (which is obviously not at all a necessarily bad thing in rock n' roll!), While TH is clearly a mature work. I'm glad they've grown up rather than not grown up. TCH I admire more than love most of the time. IABPOITC is... a little but boring aside from Kid For Today which rules.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:16 (one month ago) link

Err, 'adolescent' doesn't strike me as the right descriptor at all, doubly so when you consider that Michael Sandison was born in 1970 and Marcus Eoin in 1971.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:19 (one month ago) link

I'm not unaware of their ages, I'm almost exactly the same age as the latter and would happily confess to being relatively adolescent as a ~25 year old compared with how I am now. Neoteny is endemic in much of our generation donchaknow. Nonjudhment. But it's a sense of the art not them as people. It is alittle ironic because of olcoutse they conspicuously play with childhood images and themes. But basically it's a positive regarding the later work.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:25 (one month ago) link

A great deal of 'IDM' / electeonica in the 90s played heavily with literal juvenilia. These guys came along as elder teens in comparison.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:31 (one month ago) link

I will accept that literal juvenilia might not be the right term but I think you will know to what it is I refer.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:38 (one month ago) link

Not sure I agree with any of this tbh – BoC always struck me as having a fully-formed vision from the mid-90s onwards – and when they play with childhood tropes it feels like a young adult's game, quite unlike, say, Animal Collective, who always gave me the sense they'd never truly moved past adolescence.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:46 (one month ago) link

Young adult / adolescent. I think these are about the same thing here. Particularly as compared with everything they've released from TCH onwards.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:52 (one month ago) link

Speaking for myself, the shift from teenager to young adult was a quantum leap forward, even in retrospect.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 13:56 (one month ago) link

There's by definition further maturing to be done from "young adult". I dunno, this seems like semantics. A young adult's game is unlikely to be a middle aged person's game.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:04 (one month ago) link

Of course there is, but it’s still a massive step up from the crass immaturity of adolescence as far as I’m concerned. YMMV, I suppose.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:06 (one month ago) link

I'm not equating adolescence with teenage, or even especially crass immaturity . I'm talking about *relatively* adolescent concerns, attitudes and perspective. And in terms of what's at play in the work rather than people who I don't know obviously.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:09 (one month ago) link

ugh mature work blegh, do not want

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:27 (one month ago) link

the stuff before geogaddi I just love listening to. the stuff after I don’t. bring on adolescence.

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:29 (one month ago) link

their overall sound got uglier and less pleasant once they got better gear or whatever. and lost character. everything just sounded more and more sterilized, like the synths became a slick VST of whatever they did before. all the haze disappeared.

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:33 (one month ago) link

Vs. artists repeating what they did twenty years ago and becoming progressively less relevant.

This is awfully pseudy but fuckit - earlier I happened to be half listening to a podcast in which they were talking about h4untology and 4ccelerationism and... something about how the preoccupation with a haunted past or the past haunting the present was an intriguing and fun response to perceived stasis but innevitably ran out of steam (so to speak). This tendency that BoC was a cool bellwether for therefore ended, certain headless horsemen still being flogged notwithstanding. So that was culturally a precursor or 'adolescence' if you will for, well, whatever it was that came or is still to come. To BoCs real credit they were quick to recognise this for themselves and take different approaches.

grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:34 (one month ago) link

yeah I see what you mean. It’s a catch-22 cliche, right? Repeat yourself and risk diluting the magic, try something new and risk losing the magic.

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 18:00 (one month ago) link

my hot take is that they stopped enjoying or being excited by making music some time around geogaddi.

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 18:06 (one month ago) link

Sad to see Campfire still being dismissed 15 years later.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 3 September 2020 08:20 (one month ago) link

Don't think anyone's dismissing it, just seems to be most people's least favourite.

chap, Thursday, 3 September 2020 08:51 (one month ago) link

how did I manage to miss the opening track to their 2001 ATP show? (I somehow thought it was a sound check/intro kinda thing, but it's like their answer to Eno's An Ascent)

https://youtu.be/fjrPpzNeNZ0

StanM, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 06:19 (one month ago) link

(don't read the comments)

StanM, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 06:20 (one month ago) link

one of my friends recently casually mentioned that he saw that show and I was pretty near speechless with envy

umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 06:25 (one month ago) link

their Warp10 set is worth a listen too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGQ6Sp2JuPA

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 06:33 (one month ago) link

the devil is in the details

flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 06:57 (one month ago) link

Thanks, it is! xp

StanM, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 15:08 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

the gyroscope devil gysroscope is gyroscope in gyroscope the gyroscope. details

where do all these unsold amps go? (gaudio), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:41 (two weeks ago) link


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