Taylor Swift - Folklore

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Not even a lead single that we all hate? LET’S GO

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:06 (two weeks ago) link

what??? the name makes me hope it's a step away from the pop of her last few albums which has really had diminishing returns

ufo, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:10 (two weeks ago) link

Folklore

she is such a hack

imago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:10 (two weeks ago) link

oh collaborators this time are aaron dessner, justin vernon, william bowery (which is not a name i recognise at all or can find anything about?) and antonoff of course so i'll expect it's indeed folk-y

ufo, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:13 (two weeks ago) link

jesus

isn’t kanye releasing an album tomorrow too?

monotony, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:15 (two weeks ago) link

tracklist:
the 1
cardigan
the last great american dynasty
exile (feat. bon iver)
my tears ricochet
mirrorball
seven
august
this is me trying
illicit affairs
invisible string
mad woman
epiphany
betty
peace
hoax

bonus track:
the lakes

ufo, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:16 (two weeks ago) link

Rodrigo Prieto, who’s helped out on the last few Scorsese movies, is the cinematographer for the “cardigan” video - is she about to put out a good music video for once???

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:19 (two weeks ago) link

(I mean, he’s also worked with Iñárritu but let’s not dwell on that)

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:20 (two weeks ago) link

the look what you made me do video was good!

ufo, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:21 (two weeks ago) link

the last great american dynasty

even she watched the jordan doc

johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:22 (two weeks ago) link

omg this sounds kind of awful but will probs be amazing

überweiss, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:26 (two weeks ago) link

This is the concept I've wanted from her since forever. Can it live up to my expectations? At least it's a good idea to just let it all out without the usual bluster of a pre-release hype campaign. That's refreshing

abcfsk, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:30 (two weeks ago) link

Missed opportunity for a Myrkur collaboration IMO but I guess she didn't want the whole 'Aryan goddess' thing to bubble up again.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:35 (two weeks ago) link

It’s a concept album about sacrificing Varg.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:48 (two weeks ago) link

i’m overwhelmed

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:53 (two weeks ago) link

pic.twitter.com/w2hhXfRi0M

— Aaron Dessner (@aaron_dessner) July 23, 2020

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abcfsk, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:02 (two weeks ago) link

an entire brand new album of songs I’ve poured all of my whims, dreams, fears, and musings into.

Would be funny if they were all songs about unicorns, eating babies, not studying for the test, Trump, teeth falling out and what if giraffes could speak.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:03 (two weeks ago) link

Seriously, though, I'm really intrigued by the notion of Swift working fast and spontaneously and foregoing the pop polish/pressures.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:06 (two weeks ago) link

Can anyone recommend some good folk/folk-esque albums released this year?

pomenitul, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:09 (two weeks ago) link

Bonny Light Horseman for sure

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:10 (two weeks ago) link

lol this is BREAKING NEWS on p4k, writ large on a red banner.

xp thanks.

pomenitul, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:11 (two weeks ago) link

an entire brand new album of songs I’ve poured all of my whims, dreams, fears, and musings into.

so this is all her rejected Cats songs, then

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:13 (two weeks ago) link

And extra special thanks to my amazing manager and as always to heroic Wuotan who oversees Valhalla and shall lead us to glory

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:14 (two weeks ago) link

i’m so happy

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:14 (two weeks ago) link

lol I forgot she was in Cats. I forgot there was a Cats!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:20 (two weeks ago) link

if you had seen cats you would not forget there was a cats

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:21 (two weeks ago) link

no lies detected

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:23 (two weeks ago) link

Can anyone recommend some good folk/folk-esque albums released this year?

Not exactly under the radar but Owen Pallet, Blake Mills & Phoebe Bridgers albums?

chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:35 (two weeks ago) link

the new Fabiano do Nascimento is good

imago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:36 (two weeks ago) link

I guess those are folk-esque, yeah (I’ve heard the Pallett and Bridgers, liked ‘em both).

xp

pomenitul, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:37 (two weeks ago) link

There's a new Gillian Welch.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:42 (two weeks ago) link

I know she is not like this at all but my first reaction to the title "Folklore" was "oh cool, she's going full-Varg"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:45 (two weeks ago) link

hahahaha I see Ned got there first

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:46 (two weeks ago) link

Damn it, now I actually want a Taylor Swift folk-metal album.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:47 (two weeks ago) link

Taylor Swift Presents: The Prussian Blue Songbook

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 23 July 2020 13:47 (two weeks ago) link

"When you can tour again, what will it be like?"

"Ritualistic."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:05 (two weeks ago) link

"Here's the world premiere of the new Taylor Swift single, 'Solstice Blindfold'"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:08 (two weeks ago) link

Leaked first single:

https://youtu.be/AcAl4Fr2qQU

pomenitul, Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:11 (two weeks ago) link

But I got smarter, built an altar in the nick of time
Honey, I summoned up the dead, I do it all the time
I've got a list of souls and yours is in red, sacrificed
Chop your neck once, then I chop it twice, oh!

Look who you made me kill.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:12 (two weeks ago) link

now set it to an Antonoff beat.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:19 (two weeks ago) link

the art made me think of this so hopefully that's her new direction

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:30 (two weeks ago) link

Goole on Twitter is monitoring this for the "if you sing about forests you are straight up racist" rule, he recorded expressed concern over the song "The Lakes" which could be seen as forest fash adjacent

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:09 (two weeks ago) link

pity forests and lakes, they didn't ask for this

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:10 (two weeks ago) link

Anyway this is all reminding me what I think of the National, which is a big blank space upon which I have not projected any thoughts.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:25 (two weeks ago) link

That’s exactly what they want you to think.

pomenitul, Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:30 (two weeks ago) link

"I am a big blank space / upon which I have not / projected any thoughts" is one of my favorite National lyrics

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:32 (two weeks ago) link

I'm glad to know I can score some extra coin this way.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:40 (two weeks ago) link

very funny to me this is prob her best album art ever

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:56 (two weeks ago) link

anyway i bought a copy

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:57 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDkLfpyqbm0

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:02 (two weeks ago) link

you know maybe it's better if i don't explain that

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:18 (one week ago) link

(stans who believe karlie kloss and taylor swift were romantically involved)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:18 (one week ago) link

thanks! figured it was a 'ship, but I have never heard of Kloss before

rob, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:20 (one week ago) link

but also if taylor swift actually wrote a song suite about three women in love, that's totally awesome 2 me

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:25 (one week ago) link

hard to feel co-opted when a great writer is making a high school love triangle feel emotionally vivid and complex to me

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:26 (one week ago) link

I'm assuming TS knows that and this is an attempt to turn nationalist tropes on their head, but singing about homeland is always a bit dicey.

― akm, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:32 (yesterday) link

when i listened to this for the first time i definitely assumed it was about her breaking up with america rather than just a dude, and bon iver blurting "so step right out!" was the voice of all the conservatives who turned on her after she starting being vocal about politics. i like the song fine but i like it more this way than just as a "the last time" redux

yesterday the enjambment in the first verse of "seven" really fucked me up

billy, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:45 (one week ago) link

you know maybe it's better if i don't explain that

this is definitely the kind of knowledge that, upon gaining it, wipes something more useful out of your brain

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 15:46 (one week ago) link

singing about homeland is always a bit dicey.

IMO it’s a better line for the metaphor than any alternative I can think of — “You’re not my country anymore”? My “nation”? Those don’t really work for a relationship (which can actually feel like a “homeland”).

Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:15 (one week ago) link

"polycule" would have been more au courant

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:18 (one week ago) link

The clunky metaphor is actually the next line — “You were my town, now I’m in exile...”

“Town” is weak; something like “home” would be better, but she already said “homeland.”

Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:20 (one week ago) link

(clunky metaphors are kind of her thing, though)

Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:21 (one week ago) link

Whoever annotates the Genius.com entries for Taylor Swift songs has an annoying tendency of flagging lyrics just to point out very slight similarities with lyrics from previous songs of hers (like, literally, a repeated word).

Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 16:31 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I saw some of those notations last night, those drive me nuts.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:05 (one week ago) link

i feel like i've learned something about myself vis a vis taylor bcuz every time i listen to "invisible string" my mind expects her to say "isn't it just so funny to think / all along there was some invisible string / tying you to me?" instead of "isn't it just so pretty"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:59 (one week ago) link

'hoax' is so devastating and may have become my favourite taylor swift song. her closers are always sick but this is the first one that's completely devoid of hopefulness or optimism

"you knew it still hurts underneath my scars from when they pulled me apart - but what you did was just as dark" ;_;

überweiss, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:18 (one week ago) link

“Isn’t it pretty to think” recalls the closing line of The Sun Also Rises, no?

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:19 (one week ago) link

you're right:

Isn't it pretty to think that the sun...also rises?

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 19:20 (one week ago) link

There isn't a single album which wouldn't be improved by a couple of omissions, this one no exception; but I like Lover as much as the best songs on this one.

I agree with this. High points in Lover are as high as the best tracks here, and the stretch in the middle is as good as folklore or Red. On the other hand, I think folklore comes out on top because even if you could remove a couple tracks here to improve it, I can't find anything that makes you want to skip here; no cringe tracks. And I have nothing against her cringy stuff, I enjoy them the same way I appreciate the most idiotic McCartney stuff; but this album feels stronger without them.

cpl593H, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:58 (one week ago) link

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, but I'm getting some really pleasant R.E.M. vibes here, esp. w/"Illicit affairs" (I'm thinking of the likes of "Half a world away")

cpl593H, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:59 (one week ago) link

I like the way "Illicit Affairs" doesn't resolve, musically or narratively. It goes into the bridge and never comes back.

Has anybody seen the bridge?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:36 (one week ago) link

someone call phoebe

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:39 (one week ago) link

Bridgers to Babylon

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:42 (one week ago) link

I suspect Swift might be more into "Bridge to Terabithia."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:43 (one week ago) link

That might be the harshest thing anyone has ever said about Taylor Swift.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:04 (one week ago) link

I like the album a lot, but JFC she is milking her fans with these staggered merch and single drops. I mean, obviously no one has to buy all of this shit, but I genuinely feel bad for these young stans that are feeling pressured to buy everything to show their support.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:10 (one week ago) link

I really liked the cardigan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

cpl593H, Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:20 (one week ago) link

this is always the strangest moment of the new Taylor Swift album thread

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:52 (one week ago) link

Bridge to Terabithia was my favorite book in elementary school because I'm never not hovering over the surface of my deep emotions, so I have been feeling deeply validated by this album

winters (josh), Thursday, 30 July 2020 20:44 (one week ago) link

Hopefully someday there will be an ILM Taylor tracks poll so I can vote for "invisible string"

bunny slopes, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:05 (one week ago) link

I just accidentally closed my mp3 player app while playing invisible string and it was living death.

cpl593H, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:30 (one week ago) link

that Tapes n' Tapes album did getba better score

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:16 (one week ago) link

Menomena, too

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:16 (one week ago) link

I assume I'm in a very small club when I say I miss Menomena

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:19 (one week ago) link

Guillemots

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:20 (one week ago) link

I heard what turned out to be Invisible String randomly, really like it a lot! Heard another one I didn't like so I'll stick with just this track for now and try another in a couple of weeks

saer, Friday, 31 July 2020 03:46 (one week ago) link

a couple of mit grads made an algorithm that tells you "if you liked 'Invisible String', listen to 'peace' next"

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:54 (one week ago) link

I didn’t realize that doxxing/harassment was going on. Why doesn’t she say something?

Rob, give a listen to Iggy Stooge (morrisp), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:58 (one week ago) link

maybe she's upset that two Architecture in Helsinki albums got higher scores

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:04 (one week ago) link

the cardigan demo really highlights the vocal melodies and performance in a nice way. Must have been too dark in that cabin to find the vocal mic's gain slider, though.

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:17 (one week ago) link

also makes the album version's percussion feel like a tortured production choice that takes me out of it a bit now.

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:20 (one week ago) link

maybe she's upset that two Architecture in Helsinki albums got higher scores

...or too busy tracking down Architecture In Helsinki for a collaboration on her next quarantine album.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:25 (one week ago) link

where's the cardigan demo?

ufo, Friday, 31 July 2020 05:30 (one week ago) link

it is a single on spotify, and I assume elsewhere. Called "cabin in candlelight version."

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 05:59 (one week ago) link

We made an all acoustic, stripped down version of #Cardigan yesterday. Have a listen! https://t.co/sUZyj1WLRp

— Aaron Dessner (@aaron_dessner) July 30, 2020

i think it's just an alternate mix, not the demo. the piano & vocal take sounds the same as the album version, so the only new addition to the mix is the acoustic guitar.

i like the album version's percussion, it adds to the ways it reminds me of tori

ufo, Friday, 31 July 2020 06:13 (one week ago) link

ah ok. I googled it while listening and nme.com calls it a demo. I've been lied to.

a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 31 July 2020 06:35 (one week ago) link

i've heard "cardigan" on the radio several times now and to my surprise it never sounded out of place

dyl, Sunday, 2 August 2020 22:48 (one week ago) link

A "remix/mashup" of Mirrorball and This Is Me Trying, tagged as #Shoegaze. Probably closer to Noise Pop due to the blown-out nature of the mix. Pretty cool.

https://soundcloud.com/stpaulattheendoftheworld/mirror-trying-remix-mashup-of-taylor-swift-mirrorball-this-is-me-trying

Skrot Montague, Saturday, 8 August 2020 00:18 (yesterday) link


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