Women in electronic/dance music

Um, psychgawsple, isn't Ursual Bogner actually Jan Jelinek? And therefore not actually a woman?

Oops, I mean Ursula Bogner, of course.

as in Usual Boner? sorry, read it that way...

ALSO: cannot believe i fucking forgot ZEENA PARKINS.

also Carla Kihlstedt, from Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and Tin Hat Trio=== yeah, trad instrument but she uses lots of processors and pedals, etc.

Also, I've only read the recent posts, but nobody seems to have mentioned DODDODO yet. Not doing a vast amount at the moment, but she did play a show earlier this year, so still around.

Um, psychgawsple, isn't Ursual Bogner actually Jan Jelinek? And therefore not actually a woman?

from what i know this is just speculation, since jelinek was behind the reissue, etc.

also maryanne amacher deserves high honors for pulling off the feat of being the only artist who can consistently make me physically ill when i listen to their recordings

^^^fwiw i mean that as a compliment

Also, I've only read the recent posts, but nobody seems to have mentioned DODDODO yet. Not doing a vast amount at the moment, but she did play a show earlier this year, so still around.

― emil.y, Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:57 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^truth!! 100% incomprehensible 100% entertainment

What the fuck was that burst of vitriol in aid of?

In fact, that's pretty creepy and more than slightly stalkeresque to not even write your own burst of vitriol, but to dig up and quote someone else's words from, like, several years ago? I kind of have some sympathy for Tombot, considering what he was going through at the time he was writing vitriolic stuff like that but to dig that out and repost it in a thread that has nothing to do with it is almost borderline psychotic.

..................................

Drawing a line under that,

Anyway, I think the reason that no one brought up such goddesses as Delia Derbyshire and Daphne Oram was that it would be nice if this thread concentrated on people *currently* making music.

Barging into this thread only to say that I wish both Solex and Mira Calix would release more albums (yes I know they're still working, but still)

Followups to pinknoises.com ?

(replying to 2-day-old posts time, Mira Calix xpost synchronicity)

Re Anja Schneider - I have seen some people dismissing her work as the product of her various co-producers.
ellen allien got a lot of the "so her boyfriend produced it?" remarks

Yeah, this seems a common thing with, ahem, Women In (not just) Electronic Music. The number of Autechre fanboys who'd get very upset about Mira Calix being terrible dull uninventive and not like their heroes at all, oh and by the way clearly Sean Booth writes all her tracks... well then why aren't they sparkling Autechresque genius? You can't have it both ways!

(I have no real axe to grind for her, but have read many IDM heads rant about her out of all proportion to her music, which I found a bit dull but hardly distinctively terrible or "the first bad act on Warp" as I have seen claimed, and not really shifting too many undeserved millions as far as I noticed)

also on the UK side of things is mary anne hobbes

I don't even know if Hobbs is another example of this, since I've heard "oh she just likes whatever her producer tells her is hot", but on the other hand her show seems so faddish that it almost made sense. And then I felt dirty for thinking that, since it's such a common dismissive trick.

hobbs has a lot of cred in the dubstep/uk bass scene, at least. "faddish" - people's taste changes, scenes come and go, esp the underground ones that she covers.

forgot akiko kiyama yesterday too...nothing on youtube. youtube is so bad for some of these.

I love the way Mira's music can be dry and unfriendly and academic, a lot of the moaners hate her because she doesn't pander. That said, her last album was a lot more colourful and conventionally pretty and generally all-round pleasurable.

Why does she need her producer to tell her something's hot in order for her show to be faddish? Has she not ears of her own - or eyes - to read the blogosphere to tell her the same thing?

I think the argument was that her show suddenly became predominantly dubstep at the same time as getting a new producer. No idea if the second part is true (suspect not, now I've written it down), but as I generally care for dubstep less than the technoish end of things I'd noticed the former.

But I'm sure a lot of other people's listening habits did the same, and it probably is just down to her own enthusiasm, and some genuine enthusiasm for new scenes and strains is good to hear on the radio, especially now most of that support seems to be bundled off onto 1xtra or whatever.

The number of Autechre fanboys who'd get very upset about Mira Calix being terrible dull uninventive and not like their heroes at all, oh and by the way clearly Sean Booth writes all her tracks

Are they a couple then? Really glad I don't bother fucking with IDM msgboards or whatever, people who are *really into* the genre kind of seem like the worst people sometimes. I did however see a nightmarish clusterfuck when someone called Aunt Acid (who eventually released stuff as Syntheme, who I mentioned on the locked thread) uploaded some tracks on the Planet Mu forum - cue 100 douchebags convincing themselves that this was another Aphex pseudonym

kemistry and storm :(
tama sumo (supposedly doing the next panorama bar mix?)

xpost. IDM heads are pretty loathsome. Once went to an Autechre gig and a guy in front of me, with a skinhead and a North Face jacket no less, said to someone on the phone, rather pointedly, "there's a big cue to get in, loads of indie kids", while looking askance at me, I had longish hair swept over in the front, a checked shirt and well-fitting pair of jeans and a pair of converse on so obv. must be an indie kid!

AGF is still making some pretty incredible records these days, imo

Once went to an Autechre gig and a guy in front of me, with a skinhead and a North Face jacket no less

for all you know that could have been rob brown hisself!

i always say "loads of indie kids" on the phone to friends in tones of contempt - is the sign to move elsewhere, always

BE PREPARED:
to have your brain picked
to have the pickings misunderstood
to be mistreated whether your success increases or decreases
to have detraction move with admiration --- in step
to have your time wasted
your intentions distorted
the simplest relationships in your thoughts twisted
to be USED and MISUSED
to be "copy" to be copied to want to cope out cop out pull in and away
if you are a woman (and things are not utterly changed)
they will almost never believe you really did it
(what you did do)
they will worship you they will ignore you they will malign
you they will pamper you
they will try to take what you did as their own
(a woman doesn't understand her best discoveries after all)
they will patronize you humor you
try to sleep with you want you to transform them with your energy
they will berate your energy they will try to be part of your
sexuality they will deny your sexuality/or your work they
will depend on your for information for generosity they will
forget whatever help you give they will try to be heroic for
you they will not help you when they might they will bring
problems they will ignore your problems a few will appreciate deeply they will be loving you as what you do as what you
are loving how you are being they will of course be strong in
themselves and clear they will NOT be married to quiet
tame drones they will not say what a great mother you would
be or do you like to cook and where you might expect understanding and appreciation you must expect NOTHING then enjoy whatever gives-to-you as long as it does and however and NEVER justify yourself just do what you feel carry it strongly
yourself

jennifer cardini - probably most well known for her mix for kompakt, which i heartily endorse. it might be a bit sterile, but the tracklist and flow are expert. it's a spacious bouncy kompakt mix made with very few actual kompakt singles. neat. i was introduced to her by this mix way back in 2001 in paris. (on the same trip i got to hear a laurent garnier daft punk double bill at the rex. hell yes!)

tania vulcano - i rate her circoloco mix from last year: from sneak to freaks to mountain people. nice and atypical for a commercial ibiza mix.

Akiko Kiyama is pretty good.

others to mention: Miss Jools/Sleeper Thief

ubuweb has a full-text copy of Daphne Oram's An Individual Note: Of Music, Sound and Electronics: http://ubumexico.centro.org.mx/text/emr/books/oram_anindividual.pdf

Emika! Her album is ok, her work compiling (and contributing to) the Funf compilation and her more recent track are more instrumental but maybe even better.

there was a nice little box-out, and associated Spoitfy playlist in that new Electronic magazine full of this stuff. "The Electronic Music Archive At Spotify" if that helps (don't have spotify, and haven't heard all the following, anyway...)

Johanna M Beyer / Pauline Oliveros / Alice Shields / Ruth Anderson / Jean Eichelberger Ivey' / Ann McMillan / Sorrel Hays / Katherine Norman / Laurie Spiegel

http://nerdgirls.poemproducer.com/
^^ not even a complete list, just a great one

http://femalepressure.tumblr.com/

https://manymanywomen.wordpress.com/

awesome

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07lg56k

Haven't heard it but this should be of interest here.

laurel halo?
olivia block
bonnie jones
andrea neumann
anne guthrie

i did listen to the late junction thing but i don't remember it being particularly special. website does contain the following howler though:

Delia Derbyshire & Lisa Stansfield
Circle of Light Part 2
Circle of Light (Original Electronic Soundtrack Recording). Trunk Records. 2.

complete with picture of Lisa Stansfield... (it's meant to be Elsa Stansfield)

there was an episode of LJ recently that had a female Buchla player on it, Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith with a great, almost unbelievably coincidental, Suzanne Ciano annecdote. She also asked for the bbc to supply her with an ems polysynthi for the session, thinking they hadn't a chance in hell of finding one...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07jmvbh

I really enjoyed this retrospective that was doing the rounds last year. Ruth White's "Flowers Of Evil" is a fantastic discovery.

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/05/15/40-years-of-women-in-electronic-music/

Is that the one that was reissued on creel pone recently? About the witches? Yes, good.

i am appreciating how electronic music history listacles are finally reaching parity

http://blog.landr.com/moments-music-10-synth-wizards-machines-fell-love/

with that one it seemed like it was taking an affirmative action approach to gender parity

Just realized Barbara Morgenstern's work on "Sweet Silence" record is reminiscent of the band Insides, particularly a track like "Relentless".

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20170522-daphne-oram-pioneered-electronic-music

In the 1960s, though, Oram was taken up with her own invention: the Oramics machine. She had encountered a Cathode Ray Oscilloscope – which shows a visual image of sound waves – during her BBC training. Why not reverse it? If you paint in waves the ‘shape’ of the sound you want to hear on 35mm film, determining the pitch, vibrato, timbre and so on, scanners can read and convert that into layered sound. It was, in essence, an early sequencer – and more advanced than those that initially would become available in the 1980s.

The idea of a ‘graphical music’ system consumed Oram. It typifies her view of electronic music not as a soulless, mechanically-controlled thing, but as organic, human and joyously imperfect as any other music. “It’s quite a democratic view: on something like the Oramics machine, you can just draw,” points out McArthur. “That gestural interface means all people become composers, conceivably, which ties back into her philosophy which says that, at a molecular level, we are sounds. We are all made up noisy atoms and vibrations – sound is at the core of who we are. I find that really inspiring.”

In 1972, Oram also published her manifesto (of sorts): An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics. It is a deeply odd but fascinating work. Oram may explain how, say, electric circuits work, but will then go on to use them as far-reaching analogies for the human body and psyche. Much of it would prompt scientists to snort, but there’s compelling conviction and playful imagination in her ideas. She considers humans as instruments, featuring “a whole spectrum of resonate frequencies which are never at rest, never in a steady state, but are vibrant with pulsating tension” – right down to our very cells and atoms.

...

Oram was only 23 when she wrote Still Point. A wildly ambitious piece, it predates equivalent experiments by the likes of Pierre Schaeffer and Karlheinz Stockhausen. The piece is a sort of warped call-and-response between the orchestra and 78rpm records, using turntables and microphones to live-manipulate the sound. Its long-delayed debut was hailed as a triumph, Oram’s visionary take on electro-acoustic composition finally unleashed.

there are so many dope female producers and DJs right now

list your top x

mine would be

LNS
stellar om source
helena hauff
laurel halo
amelie lens
jayda g
d. tiffany
charlotte de witte
black madonna

pretty sure i'm forgetting someone dope

not ms owens, i'm not so enthused about her work

Jlin
Willow
LAPS
Beatrice Dillon
Marie Davidson
Lena Willikens
Avalon Emerson
Rroxymore
Shanti Celeste
Karen Gwyer
Iona Fortune
Solid Blake

Jlin is probably my top electronic/dance producer right now

nidia minaj
Kaitlin Aurelia Smith
plus what everyone else said

oh yeah jlin!! and KAS!!!

both SUPER dope

don't know nidia minaj - dj or producer

beatrice dillon's side of the split cassette she did w/ ben ufo is super sickkkkkkkkk

oh shit SHANTI CELESTE

i saw her DJ on a rooftop in LA and it renewed my belief in the power of techno

avalon emerson YES

i think i need to check out k gwyer

i know she has been mentioned earlier, but only in passing.
after her mo'wax trip hop album, andrea parker then went totally into the bass music scene.
set up the label touchin' bass, and released some insanely fantastic stuff.
the 3 'nobodys perfect' mixtapes that she released via TB are worthy.
and for her own productions, she released a rather wonderful compilation, 'heres one i made earlier' that compiled stuff she made with david morley.
summary : tis all rather wonderful.