rolling #metoo thread for sexual harassment in the music industry so no one misses out when artists we don't give a fuck about like Tim Westwood and Bassnectar get caught

the whole schtick especially early was way more edgy, almost assaultive. i think i saw one of his first shows by chance, he was opening for Trans Am and Arcwelder (those were the type of shows he was getting because in those days he was "the guy from Calvin Krime"), but yeah he came out in his underwear and only a boombox then proceeded to walk around the audience (given that it was Trans Am there may have not been any women there) and grinding on dudes, one kid almost punched him and pushed him away

but the vibe was way more andy kaufman than loveable R&B scamp

yeah, I thought of Har Mar as less of white dork who makes R&B and more like ... a hipster

he's kind of the uber minneapolis hipster, has connections throughout everything, from his noise rock/punk/amphetamine reptile days to indie rock when he was sean na na, to connections to hipster R&B, local indie hip hop with har mar to neo-soul type respectable NPR new har mar stuff

I literally don't think I've ever heard him aside from his guest spot on the first neon neon album, but yeah he's been weirdly omnipresent

xp - does he have a dog?!!!!

All that plus he served as a random unexpected Minnesota connection to the MST3K revival (he's the vocalist/'leader' of the skeleton band, sings most of the theme song).

Between Har Mar and Rhye, it really seems like there is some kind of almost pathological thread in between being a white dork who makes R&B

― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:10 (forty-three minutes ago) link

How To Dress Well better watch his (their?) back

I def remember being skeeved out by those Rhye album covers + interviews

I'm sad about Rhye tbh, i have been a fan of his work for years and that series of instaposts are just painfully detailed and ugly.

I know Har Mar's brother-in-law, I wonder if he's heard about this yet

it's been percolating on Twitter but not really outside of a small bubble, apparently his fiance is going in people's dms to do damage control

I don't know if it could really be reported properly because everything substantial is on the victims' private Facebook posts

How it started How it's going pic.twitter.com/3OrLhVeBxu

— jgarcia (@jasoncomix) March 17, 2021

I def remember being skeeved out by those Rhye album covers + interviews

― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:02 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm sad about Rhye tbh, i have been a fan of his work for years and that series of instaposts are just painfully detailed and ugly.

― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, March 17, 2021 11:04 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

both of these otm

Time for Britt Daniels to dig the White Stripes.

??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8nF8L5Fgzc

I still don't understand what that means.

I don't dig the stripes but I'll go for har mar

lol I'm slow

bloke from She Wants Revenge and Crazy Town (and DJ for Obama) and a producer pal ran a goth club in Hollywood, hit on every employee, and told patrons they were mistaken if they reported dancefloor harassment from fame-os.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2021-03-21/cloak-and-dagger-goth-nightclub-closed-sexual-misconduct-claims

Fucking Thomas Middleditch.

Har Mar has lawyered up and has sent cease and desist notices to at least one victim

Bandmate doing damage control

Another day, another reminder that @HarMarSuperstar (who has recently UNblocked me, welcome back Sean) is accused of assaulting multiple women in Minneapolis. His bandmates have said there will be a statement from him soon. They also believe Har Mar and Laura over survivors. pic.twitter.com/IYL0cOdoRQ

— jgarcia (@jasoncomix) March 20, 2021

Middleditch and his fucking Silicon Valley idiot bros were called out for creating a toxic environment some time ago. This doesn’t surprise me at all.

method acting must be stopped

"Sean has a lot to apologize for" does not seem a promising start from a person ostensibly defending Har Mar.

Middleditch def. seems like he's into a lot of wild sex stuff,

"Sean has a lot to apologize for" does not seem a promising start from a person ostensibly defending Har Mar.

It also seems potentially shitty to publicly share a private text from (and name) someone who sounds like they absolutely will not defend Har Mar publicly, and is prepared to denounce him once he hears the other side of / some more accusations, and is responding to someone going 'ayo bro looks like pitchforks are out for anyone who's ever "sexualised a chick",' and specifically asked for this not to be shared while he waits to hear from / speak to more people. He's not typing "yah shit's fucked bro, you can't even honk a titty anymore," he's saying "out of respect for [HMSS's] fiancee as a survivor and my friend I am standing by her privately for now, with multiple caveats."

"I've texted with a bandmate of Har Mar's who doesn't want to say anything on the record but is choosing to believe [Sean and fiancee], which I think is pissweak" would be more than fair as a way of expressing disdain.

#1 it wasn't a text they are just DMing random people on social media

#2 one of the other things is a forcing a woman to give him oral sex

and that's not the last of it

also they are trying to focus on one woman, the least worse of the allegations, they've threatened her with lawyers as mr. open minded refers to and are hoping they can paint her as crazy and threaten the others with cease and desist

If bandmate dude does know all that and is actively covering up / doing damage control, I figure it'll come out soon enough and he can be appropriately publicly shamed / these DMs revealed then. If he really is holding off on public comment until he finds out more (since it sounds like he's kinda prepared for another dozen shoes to drop), it's possible that him coming out against Har Mar in the future will have less weight if arseholes can act like he's been "wokescolded" into changing his position.

On the other hand, the woman in the Middleditch dancefloor incident has dropped (some of?) his full apology DMs.

you don't get it

ums otm, sic please take a big step backwards right now

bummed about the Har Mar thing, I legitimately like him but I'm not surprised

not much of a defense obv but he's struggled pretty hard with alcohol, both times I saw him in 2009 he was a huge mess. if these allegations are recent I'd be pretty shocked

I'll put it this way, there are tons of stories about him out there. not so much about sexual assault but about him getting his ass kicked. in retrospect this may have been because he was trying to sexually assault someone

Middleditch and his fucking Silicon Valley idiot bros were called out for creating a toxic environment some time ago. This doesn’t surprise me at all.

― beamish13, Sunday, March 21, 2021 3:52 PM (six hours ago)

all of them, or just him and the guy that got kicked off the show for being the king of douchebros?

Alice Wetterlund called out "pretty much everyone who had any power on that (almost all male) set, including the male cast members" for being complicit in Miller's behaviour. idk if there's anything beyond that about Nanjiani, Starr or Woods specifically creating a toxic environment.

(Although (Between scenes, the group can usually be found playing Xbox in a grungy lounge, which they've facetiously dubbed "the bone zone.")

Isn't Xbone what dorks call the Xbox?

Tried to warn you all about Middleditch but noooooo not everyone’s favorite tinyman who looks like he lives in a clock!

— Alice Wetterlund (@alicewetterlund) March 21, 2021

Wetterlund in other replies clarifying that her experience was of being singled out & treated with cruelty, citing Kumail as pretty much the worst person she’s ever worked with, and excluding Jimmy O. Yang from all this.

what a relief! Hot Dog!

the middleditch interview where he just volunteered that he sprung an open marriage on his wife directly after they got married, and also shit on social media (that i can't find currently) about how he loves getting in women's DMs on insta were red flags, id imagine there may be more to come about him

the middleditch interview where he just volunteered that he sprung an open marriage on his wife directly after they got married

"...until forever do you part?" "You mean like when I leave the house? Yeah sure." "Hey wait."

I know it’s OT but how “goth” is this club if Diplo DJs, improv nerds go there and it’s in the back of a bar called Pig and Whistle?

I was just telling Maura that the idea of an LA goth club trying to recreate the 45 Grave era sounds pretty cool but it ultimately sounds like it’s a bunch of Dave Navarro shit

why is "goth" a proper noun in the LA times style guide...

https://i.redd.it/p2ckdffvh4351.jpg

https://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/36d2/Nathan.jpg

I'm still back on the African-American member who wanted the dudes who were trying to emulate Christian Death to support Black Lives Matter

I know it’s OT but how “goth” is this club if Diplo DJs, improv nerds go there and it’s in the back of a bar called Pig and Whistle?

You should be asking yourself more about why there's an 'Old Hollywood' 'English pub' in LA, and then remember it's LA and thus of course that would exist and of course there'd also be a goth club there because there could just as easily be something else entirely there too, and probably is.