rolling #metoo thread for sexual harassment in the music industry so no one misses out when artists we don't give a fuck about like Tim Westwood and Bassnectar get caught

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It seems like a lot of the sexual harassment news of the last few years has either ended up in Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs or in individual artist threads like Ryan Adams and Swans: Classic or Dud? and Warped Tour 2004 and probably many more.

I just think it would do well to have a catch-all thread just for ILM. It seems like the news stories on this topic come and go and we don't get to see the full size of the issue. We could post news here or links to older revives in individual artist threads.

If this is a bad idea, feel free to let me know.

Anyways, here's Bassnectar:

No, I Do Not Want To Interview Bassnectar.

Here's Tim Westwood:

Tim Westwood = AWESOME

peace, man, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:52 (six months ago) link

good idea!

carin' (map), Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:53 (six months ago) link

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fifthgear/images/7/70/Tim_westwood.PNG/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20180520153702

let's not forget that Tim Westwood is only one year younger than Theresa May (another child of the clergy) and uses a lot more grecian 2000. The real tragedy is he when got shot, the bullet didn't go right through his testicles. It all seems to have gone quiet about him and his grooming game. What an utter stain.

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:02 (six months ago) link

Whippin hard! What's my ride out music? pic.twitter.com/znI67xOcLO

— TimWestwoodTV (@TimWestwood) June 10, 2020

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 16:47 (six months ago) link

he's supposedly got knocking on half a million followers yet his "whipping hard" tweet gets him 11 retweets ..hmmm

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:03 (six months ago) link

the Minneapolis hip hop scene had a crazy week of blowing with all sorts of abusers getting outed

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/doomtree-prof-others-respond-after-members-of-minneapolis-hip-hop-scene-accused-of-abuse/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:16 (six months ago) link

pretty glaring free pass still given to surviving classic rockers about this, feels like a conversation people want to postpone indefinitely

yeah the independent radio station i used to do a show for would send out emails about not playing music by the ducktails guy (for example) when sexual abuse allegations came out, but then people would still play james brown and led zeppelin all the time

na (NA), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:18 (six months ago) link

does listening to someone's music = giving them a pass? asking for a friend

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:27 (six months ago) link

not necessarily but fandom tends to do that especially when it gets loud enough to shout down critical voices

Prince is a big one no one wants to touch

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 22:19 (six months ago) link

I still fuck with Prince, David Bowie, Motley Crue. Nugent, Zeppelin, Aerosmith to lesser extent. I don't know why this is, but some of the songs are so emotionally resonant to me that I can't divorce myself from them. I honestly haven't even looked into what Prince has done.

peace, man, Thursday, 9 July 2020 22:44 (six months ago) link

idk if it's a specific one thing, or just the general consensus that he was a humongous asshole, often abusive. but i'll let ums confirm

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 22:45 (six months ago) link

I'm sure that Prince was a terrible asshole in many facets of his life.

peace, man, Thursday, 9 July 2020 22:57 (six months ago) link

including the time when he was the symbol that he told the press they had to use the special font he gave them when writing about him, send them the special font in a file, then tried to sue people for using it in articles anyway.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:02 (six months ago) link

The Tim Westwood thread shows that a whole lot of ILXors really did give a fuck about him.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:32 (six months ago) link

idk if it's a specific one thing, or just the general consensus that he was a humongous asshole, often abusive. but i'll let ums confirm

― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, July 9, 2020 5:45 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

No I mean grooming underage women

In 1990, 16-year-old Garcia met Prince backstage in Barcelona after he saw a tape of her dancing. After she graduated high school in Germany at the age of 17, Prince became her legal guardian.[14][4] Upon moving to Minneapolis, Prince and members of his team helped set her up with her own apartment. "At first, I stayed at the Sofitel, then they moved me to a nice little prairie house at the Country Suites, but I couldn't even make a cup of tea there, so they got me an apartment and rented furniture," she said.[15] At the age of 19, Prince instructed her to get on birth control thus beginning their sexual relationship.[4] After a four-year courtship, they married on February 14, 1996.[16]

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:36 (six months ago) link

After she graduated high school in Germany at the age of 17, Prince became her legal guardian.

Ted Nugent pulled this same trick.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:39 (six months ago) link

Oh, well...that part I didn't know. fuck!

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:40 (six months ago) link

xpost

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:40 (six months ago) link

xps to Tom

he is like funk flex yes, but singular and glorious in a way only england can be
― bob zemko (bob), Monday, 14 October 2002 07:27 (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

just imagine how singular and glorious funkmaster flex could have been if he was an upper middle class white English pedo still "doing it" at 62!

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:40 (six months ago) link

Nona Gaye was 18 when they started dating (allegedly started)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:41 (six months ago) link

A woman I know knows a lot of people from Prince world, an R&B singer told her the story that Prince was producing her debut solo album in the early 80s

She had done vox on the Lipps Inc project and other things

Anyway

Prince demanded a blow job in the studio, she refused, he walked out, end of her solo career

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 July 2020 23:43 (six months ago) link

re: Doomtree, this is 100% shallow but my reaction to them after their set at the first Eaux Claires festival was “these people are terrible and I wish them all nothing but ill fortune”; I’m just sorry that their implosion is built on so much abuse and suffering.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:08 (six months ago) link

I'd prefer to keep Bowie, James Brown and Prince out of this not because they're too beloved, just cause they're dead that seems like a different category of queasiness. unless someone here is a necromancer-for-cancellation? surely we already have a "separating the art from the artist?" thread already

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:35 (six months ago) link

but obv I'm not gonna make an actual effort to thread-police

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:35 (six months ago) link

I hear that Gesualdo guy was an asshole.

pomenitul, Friday, 10 July 2020 00:36 (six months ago) link

and yet he's still being played every hour, on the hour, on classic rock radio, sickening

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:38 (six months ago) link

'Moro, lasso, al mio duolo' is an undeniable jam, though.

pomenitul, Friday, 10 July 2020 00:39 (six months ago) link

Do these kids walking about with his face on their t-shirts even know though?

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:42 (six months ago) link

Part of it is living in the middle of Minneapolis' Prince Industrial Complex and the endless hagiography gets old

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 July 2020 01:39 (six months ago) link

Gesualdo is obviously cancelled in my book

didn't actually know any of the bad Prince stories, surprised i didn't see anyone make a lot of noise about them when he died

ufo, Friday, 10 July 2020 05:33 (six months ago) link

we all know rock n roll was partly built on this but it would be nice if we didn’t have to wait for the people to die, then wait for the mourning to die down, before any kind of minor reckoning with them. even nicer if it was their peers calling them out but that’s not happening & who else wants to deal with the threats

obv this is still going on in every genre/industry & statistically some of the ppl I like now are going to be creeps. which is shit but I’d rather know about it. lot more stuff is surely coming out soon, whether it will change anything idk. kids still love certain soundcloud dudes we knew about already. I hope they grow out of it

Worth noting that Rodney P and Ty (R.I.P) relentlessly told us of Tim Westwood’s predatory nature...no one listened. #SurvivingTimWestwood pic.twitter.com/FWGxLABWMQ

— Michael Morgan (@mikewhoatv) June 22, 2020

I'd been wondering how Westwood managed to stay so protected - from the viewpoint of 2020 it feels weird to think of the extent to which he was the biggest and pretty much only gatekeeper for any British MC (and the only person playing most rap music in the UK full stop). We're talking about a 20-30 year period of dominance here.

The even grimmer conclusion is that because he was primarily targeting young black girls, no one really cared.

Matt DC, Friday, 10 July 2020 10:04 (six months ago) link

I'm surprised there isn't more concerted anger directed against him from some of the bigger grime stars (unless I've missed it) because he needs dragging down, what he gets away with is outrageous.

calzino, Friday, 10 July 2020 10:37 (six months ago) link

mind you as a much as a joke character as he he seems, he still obv wields a lot of power and influence

calzino, Friday, 10 July 2020 10:54 (six months ago) link

seeming like a joke character seems to help many people who wield a lot of power & influence

Prime Ministers, for instance.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Friday, 10 July 2020 11:48 (six months ago) link

The Prince stories, while unsurprising, are really bumming me out.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 10 July 2020 13:32 (six months ago) link

yeah it's depressing
I did watch Purple Rain for the first time in probably 20 years on Netflix and that whole movie is a real grab bag of red flags though, yikes I was kinda shocked at how horrible The Kid came off

to your Doomtree post, I think those guys (except Dessa, I think she was in a different lane) were super hard drug abusers

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 July 2020 14:15 (six months ago) link

I always felt like The Kid was supposed to look half horrible and not a model for behavior recommended by prince

but purple rain aside, djp otm. He was one of the few figures i would call a personal hero

gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Friday, 10 July 2020 14:23 (six months ago) link

its hard to process when a huge part, maybe the hugest part, of an artist's project is how sexuality fits into the universe they constructed

gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Friday, 10 July 2020 14:27 (six months ago) link

Yeah, my reading of Purple Rain was that The Kid was well on his way to becoming a piece of shit in the same vein as his father but music and Appolonia opened his eyes to his mistakes and gave him the strength to set his feet on a different path.

Also I don't mean to keep harping on this in the context of this thread but the Doomtree set was SO BAD, like half a step removed from Edina-Christian-youth-group-rapping-for-Jesus levels of bad

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 10 July 2020 14:27 (six months ago) link

its hard to process when a huge part, maybe the hugest part, of an artist's project is how sexuality fits into the universe they constructed

I wouldn't say it's hard, rather that my take on it was that he was projecting a stage persona most of the time and I hoped/assumed he turned it off when it wasn't appropriate (which is of course naive when actually considered but still).

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 10 July 2020 14:28 (six months ago) link

i'm starting to think that being a sexual predator / sexual power dynamics are like the quiet part of what being a successful pop star is or has always been about - the open secret. some people really seemed to relish it / some people were reluctant participants but obviously that doesn't change the end result - the pain of countless women (and queers) who suffered abuse.

carin' (map), Friday, 10 July 2020 15:23 (six months ago) link

'pop star' but also music industry exec etc.

carin' (map), Friday, 10 July 2020 15:23 (six months ago) link

this is a little out-of-bounds of this thread but i have my theories about why sexual abuse is so commonly done by people in these positions of power. part of it is the alienation of being an industrial exploiter in an exploitative capitalist framework - that very easily translates into sexual exploitation.

carin' (map), Friday, 10 July 2020 15:27 (six months ago) link

Whatever it was, it's gone now.

peace, man, Thursday, 13 August 2020 23:43 (five months ago) link

I'm not sure whether reposting that 2015 piece on Brock is supposed to exonerate him or damn him, because it is so full of such classic 101 Victim Blaming techniques that I had to peace out before reaching the end?

Branwell with an N, Friday, 14 August 2020 07:37 (five months ago) link

I was just addressing the “whatever happened to...” question with a relatively recent piece that also links to the original Stranger article (for context). You’re welcome to post a different one.

Get your filthy hands off my asp (morrisp), Friday, 14 August 2020 15:38 (five months ago) link

Maybe I'm a dickhead, but I'd love to see the Modest Mouse dude get his comeuppance fairly soon.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 15 August 2020 00:46 (five months ago) link

Have there been any whispers about bad behaviour by him apart from that one 1999 story?

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 15 August 2020 00:58 (five months ago) link

There’s other “bad behavior” mentioned in that Buzzfeed article (drug abuse; a DUI with a passenger in the car), but I haven’t heard about anything else related to sexual assault.

Get your filthy hands off my asp (morrisp), Saturday, 15 August 2020 01:04 (five months ago) link

drug abuse?? poor form for someone in a prominent rock band

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 15 August 2020 01:54 (five months ago) link

Well, that’s why I used quotes, lol

Get your filthy hands off my asp (morrisp), Saturday, 15 August 2020 02:03 (five months ago) link

also (DUI aside) the drug abuse detailed in the story is being like 20 years old and tripping in the woods iirc

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 15 August 2020 02:12 (five months ago) link

To amend my post above, I realIzed that the Buzzfeed piece doesn’t actually link to The Stranger article (“Immodest Mouse: Singer Accused of Rape,” 3/18/99) — apparently it’s been taken down. When it references the article, it links to a book about Modest Mouse, and then to a 4/1/99 Letters to the Editor page (still hosted at TheStranger.com) with responses to the article.

Get your filthy hands off my asp (morrisp), Saturday, 15 August 2020 02:20 (five months ago) link

What a dogshit headline, “Immodest Mouse: Singer Accused of Rape,”

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 August 2020 02:33 (five months ago) link

p funny tho

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 15 August 2020 04:52 (five months ago) link

At risk of reviving a clusterfuck, I’m going to get into many of the same issues that plagued the Jane’s Addiction thread, regarding a situation that is ambiguous. I’m willing, in the absence of further evidence, to conceded that Brock’s case was _ambiguous_. But that piece was so thoroughly soaking in rape culture tropes that it makes it more suspicious, not less.

-where is the victim/survivor/rapee’s point of view? It is missing. It is alluded to, but never detailed. We only ever read about the disputed sex act through the eyes of the accused, we are only invited to empathise with the alleged perpetrator.

rape is a crime of subjectivity. The people involved are on different scripts. One says it was consensual, the other says it was coercive. To *erase* the subjective view of the person making the allegation is to erase the crime.

-the character of the accused is discussed in detail, presenting him in a favourable light, before the rape charges are ever introduced. He’s a 'Nice Guy' who would previously have joined anti-rape protesters, who is now portrayed as the *victim* of said protesters. The details of his current relationship are considered exonerating, as he is in a committed relationship with a sound and sensible woman. (Ted Bundy was able to charm sound and sensible women into relationships!)

-the details that *are* described about the girl are all ways of presenting her as differing from the 'perfect victim' script. She was 'known within the scene' (she had a Reputation.) She was there for a talk with an ex-boyfriend. (she was not a virgin.) She had been drinking.

-the fact of her drinking is produced as evidence that the event was somehow... *less* rapey and more ambiguous, even though alcohol is the tool most frequently used by rapists. When discussing Perry Farrell, people seemed to recognise that a much older man introducing mind-altering chemicals to a younger woman not legally able to obtain them herself, was something that warped the power dynamics to make it *more* ethically dubious, not less. The girl becoming intoxicated, while drinking at his table, (notice how it is totally elided, who supplied the alcohol?) is supposed to somehow exonerate Brock?

-the offer of accommodation. Here we have the introduction of ambiguity, in the sense of the Crossing of Sexual Scripts. We have a teenage girl, illicitly intoxicated to the point where she is unable to locate her keys, stranded in a dodgy part of town, at odd hours of the night, a situation which most young women would read as dangerous enough to require a companion on the walk home. Women are taught, by Rape Culture, that being alone, intoxicated, in an unfamiliar part of town, late at night, is the single most dangerous situation where one can expect to be raped. She is coming from a place of vulnerability, and looking for a haven.

-the man offers her a place to stay. This *appears* to be an offer of a safe haven, protected from 3AM-Rape-Streets. The sexual scripts here completely differ. Rape Culture teaches men, that if a woman willingly enters your house/apartment/hotel room/tourbus after midnight, she is essentially ~Consenting To Enter The Rape Palace~ and is tacitly agreeing to any and all sexual contact.

We’ve seen, in those stories of Mark K, how abusive men use those 'crossed scripts' of "oh, you need to call an Uber, come back to my hotel, you can do it there" to impose a sexual ~Rape Palace~ script on a woman who believes she is on a Safe Haven script.

-the former housemate is given more of a voice, in the story, than the *victim* is! This housemate sees no apparent connection between the two events they overhear:
a) Brock tells the girl to be quiet or the housemate will hear
b) The girl is quiet, there are no noises indicating any kind of distress, therefore no rape can have taken place

In a safe haven script, 'be quiet so my housemate does not hear' is specific statement indicating, if you make noise, object, protest, you will be in trouble, you will lose the Safe Haven, and be ejected back on the 3AM-Rape-Streets. It is not an indication of consent, it is a quite conceivably a veiled thread.

-The victim is quiet, she does not scream, indicate distress, or try to run away, therefore clearly the sex was consensual.

This is just pure Rape Culture. People are taught that there are only 2 reactions to fear or threat – Fight or Flight. People who study the experiences of rape survivors, repeatedly encounter two different reactions from the point of view of the rapee: freeze, or flop. These are the overwhelming responses described by survivors of rape, to either completely freeze up and become physically petrified and incapable of moving; or to become completely passive and flop about like a dead fish.

In predator theory, these responses are sometimes compared to other prey responses within the natural world. Deer freeze in the headlamps. If you are a creature that has pretty good natural camouflage, facing a predator who works by sight, especially sight which is sensitive to movement, *freeze* is actually a successfully adaptive response to attack. Animals play dead. If what you are facing is not a predator looking to eat you, but a much bigger animal patrolling its territory or its defending its young, an inert, floppy prey which appears to be already dead, is no longer a threat, and will generally be left alone. *Flop* can be a successfully adaptive response to attack.

If you are working from a model that sees 'fight or flight' as the only potential reactions to rape, you will miss the actual 'freeze or flop' reactions that 90% of rape survivors report. That's why so many rape activists are trying to work to change sexual scripts from 'absense of no' to 'enthusistic consent'. The person writing this piece is showing right here, that they have *no fucking idea* what rape is, or how people who are being raped act. And that was the point where I stopped reading.

Without the actual words of the girl (though she is reported as describing the experience as rape) I cannot make that subjective call of 'rape' or 'not rape'. But the way that things are presented in this piece, every angle, every framing, makes it *more* likely to be rape, not less.

cheeky boshing shamanic art-prankster (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 15 August 2020 07:04 (five months ago) link

What a completely unnecessary post.

cheeky boshing shamanic art-prankster (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 15 August 2020 08:10 (five months ago) link

maybe? I was aiming to pull at the noted threads of ambiguity in the (third-hand version of) the case as reported, but had had several drinks. any passing mod is encouraged to axe my post if it's especially dumb or bad or incoherent, or just on whim

beaky joshing shamanic part-angster (sic), Saturday, 15 August 2020 11:38 (five months ago) link

not every thread needs pulling

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets (Left), Saturday, 15 August 2020 12:08 (five months ago) link

I just found about Ian Watkins from Lostprophets being convicted in 2018: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Watkins_(Lostprophets_singer)

This one is particularly enraging because it even involves baby rape.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:18 (five months ago) link

I've also heard that Daniel Sturridge is going to Chelsea

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:23 (five months ago) link

Sorry, I guess it was popular news but I was never into nu-metal or lostprophets for that matter.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:35 (five months ago) link

In predator theory, these responses are sometimes compared to other prey responses within the natural world. Deer freeze in the headlamps. If you are a creature that has pretty good natural camouflage, facing a predator who works by sight, especially sight which is sensitive to movement, *freeze* is actually a successfully adaptive response to attack. Animals play dead. If what you are facing is not a predator looking to eat you, but a much bigger animal patrolling its territory or its defending its young, an inert, floppy prey which appears to be already dead, is no longer a threat, and will generally be left alone. *Flop* can be a successfully adaptive response to attack.

― cheeky boshing shamanic art-prankster (Branwell with an N)

the language of trauma response i'm familiar with includes freeze and also fawn. i agree that there needs to be a better understanding of trauma, trauma patterns, and trauma responses. there is a significant disconnect between the lived experiences of trauma and abuse survivors and the cultural norms around trauma and abuse.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:44 (five months ago) link

idk for me the "flop" response made sense because i'd assumed the gratification of sex included the partner's responsiveness, so if I didn't respond, it wouldn't be gratifying for him ... nope!

sarahell, Saturday, 15 August 2020 19:19 (five months ago) link

actually it was just about _his_ dick

sarahell, Saturday, 15 August 2020 19:20 (five months ago) link

As a sexual abuse survivor, Andy would like to suggest: even though it's less common, dissociation is very much a real thing. When your mind dissociates, it is out of fear and protection. Although the dissociated individual probably won't appear to be enjoying the situation, they certainly won't be disagreeable — because, as Branwell so articulately and validly pointed out, there is almost always the unspoken possibility of physical harm if the abused resists. Or maybe even the abuser just doesn't care and has made the consequences very clear: do what I want and you'll be fine.

The Modest Mouse bloke has been a documented manipulative (arguably borderline narcissistic) person in just about every other aspect of their engagements, so Andy has to wonder just how high the probabilities are that their manipulations crossed over into sexual manipulations as well.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 15 August 2020 19:51 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Alex Fitzpatrick, co-founder of Holy Roar:

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/holy-roar-records-founder-accused-of-rape-several-bands-respond/

where do all these unsold amps go? (gaudio), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:37 (four months ago) link

So grateful to the incredibly brave victims and sources who spoke with me for this story. Morillo's predatory behaviour spanned nearly thirty years and ruined lives. It's disgraceful that it has taken this long for these stories to come to light. I know there are so many more. https://t.co/zlQjc8N78V

— Annabel Ross (@annabel_ross) September 15, 2020

groovypanda, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:57 (four months ago) link

that's a harrowing and appalling long read.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:13 (four months ago) link

From that journalist’s twitter feed ... YIKES

https://m.facebook.com/793874029/posts/10158549434069030/?extid=0q95Wg5149URdpjB&d=n

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:23 (four months ago) link

also posted to the derrick may thread. ugh

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:25 (four months ago) link

"and because men" otm

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:20 (four months ago) link

this has been popping on on minneapolis twitter last two days
just a shameful decision by public radio

http://citypages.com/music/mpr-reporter-resigns-cites-stalled-investigation-into-allegedly-abusive-current-dj/572407841

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:25 (four months ago) link

Well fuck this guy. And the harassment is just part of his awfulness.

https://www.metalsucks.net/2020/09/28/sexual-harassment-and-bullying-booking-titan-john-finbergs-accusers-speak-out/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 September 2020 19:42 (three months ago) link

Wow!

Thoia Thoing, Maryland (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 28 September 2020 20:34 (three months ago) link

God, that kept going and getting worse. Absolutely horrifying that such a guy has been encouraged and allowed to prosper by the metal community. What a genuine monster.

📺👁️ (peace, man), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 00:13 (three months ago) link

Another account of Finberg's sexual harassment, same pattern

I read this today and I'm not surprised.

I was sexually harrassed by John Finberg back in 2018, during Helloween's Pumpkins United Tour in Mexico https://t.co/zUAcuz9Wid

— Tinúviel (@den_akari) September 29, 2020

here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 08:50 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Producer 5ive invited me to his studio a few years ago to get on nines’ album. This didn’t happen because he tried to rape me in the studio toilets !! He even had to cheek to message me months later saying “I should’ve fucked him cos he’s been signed now”. The industry for u🤮

— 19🧞‍♀️♍️ (@Sariaha9) November 9, 2020

calzino, Monday, 9 November 2020 10:53 (two months ago) link

Derrick May

https://djmag.com/longreads/multiple-women-report-sexual-assault-and-harassment-derrick-may

(trigger warning for the in-depth article, as per most of the articles in this thread)

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:46 (two months ago) link

Ah, the DM thread was on it already

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:49 (two months ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/news/octavian-accused-of-abuse-issues-denial/

ufo, Thursday, 12 November 2020 23:52 (two months ago) link

shit, well fuck him. the noticeably selective denial doesn't do him any favours either

You guys are ridiculous because I’m more on the left than you (Left), Friday, 13 November 2020 00:06 (two months ago) link

argument is the video of him saying what he did isn't literally a video of him doing it, so he didn't do it. so his defence is that he was lying then, but she's the liar? I hope too many people don't buy it

You guys are ridiculous because I’m more on the left than you (Left), Friday, 13 November 2020 00:20 (two months ago) link

Also there was a temporary restraining order granted against Diplo so maybe there’s some evidence behind the claim?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/temporary-restraining-order-granted-against-diplo-revenge-porn-case-n1248184

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 23 November 2020 05:49 (one month ago) link

MIA rang the alarm a decade ago on him:


When I got signed by Interscope, he literally smashed my hotel room and broke all the furniture because he was so angry I got picked up by a major label and it was the corniest thing in the world that could possibly happen. And then Missy Elliott called me for the first time in 2005 to work with me on her record, and I’m sure we had a massive fight about that — the fact that I was talking to anyone who was, like, popular. I wish I enjoyed it because I had this person on my shoulder the whole time saying, “It’s shit, it’s shit, it’s shit. You shouldn’t be on the charts. You shouldn’t be in the magazines and you should not be going to interviews. You should not be doing collaborations with famous people. You should be an underground artist.”
So the whole two years I was with him, I just let him dictate. I basically had this man dictate to me how everything in America that I experienced was completely, like, irrelevant and it was nothing. So it was kind of a weird time for me. It was only afterwards, when I went into the second record and I went into it without him, I got to enjoy that by myself. But on the end of that I ran into another man, so the window of me actually being alone, single and a female and being empowered and enjoying what I created was very, very small.
Was Diplo’s mentality like, “You’re selling out”?
Oh, 100 percent. It’s only now when I look back at it in 2015, I can see that he was just jealous and he couldn’t wait to be Taylor Swift’s best friend and date Katy Perry. But at that time I believed him. I just felt like he was right, and he was something of a political, righteous person with some values. I didn’t realize it was just jealousy. That actually, the life that I had and the story that I told through my music and the connections I had with people in the music industry and the connections that I made in the streets of London or around the planet and me being the way I am and my personality — that is what made me make that record. It was really stupid for me to put all that hard work in and evolve as a human being for 25 years and then on the 27th year meet this guy and just give him the batch of controlling it. I think that’s what happens to women, you know: You fall in love, and shit happens.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 23 November 2020 05:57 (one month ago) link

oh yeah diplo was a known shithead, this particular aspect is new though

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:18 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

pretty repellent stuff about the Growlers, don’t know anything about past issues she mentions.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDR1W0il3_U/

JoeStork, Friday, 11 December 2020 18:19 (one month ago) link

Ugh, that's horrible. I've never heard of the Growlers, but Starcrawler is great. I'm really sorry to hear about that.

peace, man, Friday, 11 December 2020 18:34 (one month ago) link

Not just the music industry but ugh:

https://pitchfork.com/news/fka-twigs-sues-shia-labeouf-alleging-abuse-and-assault/

pomenitul, Friday, 11 December 2020 19:45 (one month ago) link


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