POLL: Ellie Greenwich's Greatest Greatest hits: Be My Baby vs the rest

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A couple of years ago I made a poll* where I asked for the best Ellie Greenwich-penned song, excluding Be My Baby, which I thought would make the spread a bit more interesting.

Some questioned whether Be My Baby would've actually won. An impressive 17 different tracks got votes in that poll, suggesting the depth of her amazing songwriting discography. In this poll you'll find the top 10 from then vs The Ronettes' Be My Baby, to conclusively decide the real ultimate winner

*POLL: Greatest Ellie Greenwich-penned song

Poll Results

OptionVotes
The Ronettes - Be My Baby 7
The Crystals - Then He Kissed Me 4
The Shangri-Las - Out In The Streets 4
Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 3
The Crystals - Da Doo Ron Ron 1
Lesley Gore - Maybe I Know 1
Ike & Tina Turner - River Deep Mountain High 1
The Shangri-Las - The Train From Kansas City 1
Beach Boys - I Can Hear Music 1
Manfred Mann - Do Wah Diddy Diddy 0


abcfsk, Thursday, 9 July 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

Did vote "Be My Baby" but I gotta admit there's some strong contenders - the Darlene Love, "Then He Kissed Me", "Out In The Streets".

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 9 July 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link

Wow

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

My sentimental favorites on this list are "Then He Kissed Me" and "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)". The latter is so good it transcends seasonal. "Out in the Streets" is such an incredible vocal performance.

Whoa, I suddenly remembered "Kissed Me" was used in the opening of "Adventures in Babysitting," but when I googled the opening credits it noted the song was ... re-recorded? And upon further investigation I found lots of links to the Spector stuff "re-recorded," but no info on what that means. Any idea?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

You’re asking what does re-recorded mean in general?

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

No, I am asking if all of these songs were re-recorded, and when. Because I listened to the opening credits of "Babysitting" and ... it sounded like the original to me.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFrecN_dsPc

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

Wait, that is the original! There is a link I found to an album of this stuff re-recorded that *does* sound (terribly) re-recorded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1qPA41Eiy0

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

Not sure where you are seeing the re-recorded info, but going to hazard a guess that perhaps at some point there was version of the film, a Home Video version, where they couldn't get the rights so they used a re-recorded version and that is what is being referred to.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

This will be very difficult. Have a couple of favorites that are front runners but most of these are so good.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

Still voting Darlene Love.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

a lot of my favorites didn't make the cut from the previous poll, and there are a few tunes i dig which weren't even polled at all !

"river deep - mountain high" never really resonated with me, all fanfare and flourish but there's nothing really there.

beach boys tune is great, reminds me that i need to revisit "20/20"

voted for "then he kissed me"

budo jeru, Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

call it a challop but i think you could make a case that goffin / king wrote better tunes for the chiffons, crystals, AND ronettes.

love barry-greenwich but i feel that the tunes shine when they're allowed to sort of revel in their youthful simplicity, like TJ's "hanky panky" or tunes like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Van2wuS5io

sounds fine without 12 maracas tbh

budo jeru, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

Love Goffin King but no way. Do agree that Greenwich (w Barry et al) has an interesting split between more stripped down arrangements without Specter (including her own arrangements) and then his wall of sound. And those other tracks serve as refreshing contrast. But she wrote all the best wall of sound tracks so also, no way

abcfsk, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

I saw Ronnie Spector sing "Be My Baby" at a Hoboken street fair about 20 years ago when it was humid and around 96 degrees. I got goosebumps. So...

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

I saw Lala Brooks at MoMA Queens with Georgia and Ira and Gaylord once. It was really good.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

Guess it's better spellt LaLa

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 17 August 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

Oh no, I missed the original poll - I can see that quite clearly by the fact that no one voted for Leader of the Pack.

Could very easily be Be My Baby, Da Doo Ron Ron or Then He Kissed Me - but I'm going with Train From Kansas City, not just because I love the Shangri-Las, but because of the frankly amazing cover by the Shop Assistants, where they lovingly re-created not just the harmonies, but the entire *train*, using Mary Chain-esque guitar feedback.

Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Monday, 17 August 2020 09:57 (three years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

Good thing I voted for “I Can Hear Music.”

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

In recent years I’ve come to the conclusion that Charlie Gillett titled his book after one of its more prominent lyrics.

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

So Be My Baby did indeed win, and maybe stole some votes from the previous poll winners? Christmas and Train from Kansas City fell a bit.

Anyway, all but one track got votes, so in conclusion, Ellie Greenwich penned a shitton of amazing songs.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 07:39 (three years ago) link

Oh no, I missed the original poll - I can see that quite clearly by the fact that no one voted for Leader of the Pack.

yes, that is a bit wtf. I obviously didn't see it either

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link

Came very close to voting for "Train from Kansas City."

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 11:56 (three years ago) link


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