Blind Faith – Blind Poll

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I'm on a bit of a classic rock kick of late, so may the pollhaters forgive me.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Can't Find My Way Home 11
Had to Cry Today 7
Sea of Joy 4
Presence of the Lord 3
Well All Right 1
Do What You Like 1


pomenitul, Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:53 (one month ago) link

I'm currently making my way through Cream's discography and can't see what the fuss is about, re: GB's drumming, including on disc #2 of Wheels of Fire (I don't want to hear 'Toad' ever again). Yet the switch to Blind Faith makes all the difference for reasons that escape me at the moment. And when the violins sweep in, 'Sea of Joy' almost sounds like a Van Morrison outtake ca. Astral Weeks. If there's a weak link on this record, it's the vocals – even Winwood sounds a bit off here.

pomenitul, Thursday, 11 June 2020 14:55 (one month ago) link

Easy. "Can't Find My Way Home"

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:02 (one month ago) link

If there's a weak link on this record, it's the vocals – even Winwood sounds a bit off here.

Yes, the vocals aren't great, the drumming is worse though, the whole thing is a bit slapdash.

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:07 (one month ago) link

"can't find my way home"

budo jeru, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:14 (one month ago) link

i agree that the drums suck on this record

budo jeru, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:15 (one month ago) link

It still feels like a step up from Cream to me, which maybe isn't saying much. Are there any records where GB lives up to his reputation?

pomenitul, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:17 (one month ago) link

i don't know, i really like cream. i realize most people don't. but if you don't think GB was good in cream then i'm not sure you'll ever like his drumming.

budo jeru, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:39 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4tJiyU_gjY

budo jeru, Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:48 (one month ago) link

I don't think it's a step up from Cream, it's just different. Cream's more about Jack Bruce imo.

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:22 (one month ago) link

baker gurvitch army does a solid job of showcasing the wild man. the first record is def worth checking out, more like santana than cream

ACABincalifornia (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:30 (one month ago) link

*baker gurvitz army

ACABincalifornia (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:31 (one month ago) link

*and it turns out the record i was thinking of is elysian encounter, which is their second record, not their first

ACABincalifornia (voodoo chili), Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:32 (one month ago) link

Tbc I enjoy a fair amount of Cream's music, I just don't find Baker's contributions all that meaningful. He's dece.

pomenitul, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:35 (one month ago) link

I'll check out the Baker Gurvitz Army – thanks, vc.

pomenitul, Thursday, 11 June 2020 16:35 (one month ago) link

Sea of joy

brimstead, Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:15 (one month ago) link

heard this album millions of times growing up, no strong feeling about it in either direction

brimstead, Thursday, 11 June 2020 17:15 (one month ago) link

I think this is probably the first time I've ever listened to this. It might be my shitty laptop speakers but the production on Baker's drums is pretty ordinary. I actually think Winwood sounds decent!

I like Baker on the live album he did with Fela:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6W_07sxw-k

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 11 June 2020 20:21 (one month ago) link

Never had the album, so all I know are the two songs collected on the '73 Polydor Clapton compilation. Just listened to "Can't Find My Way Home" on YouTube--excellent. If you scroll through, lots of sad YouTube comments from recovering addicts.

clemenza, Thursday, 11 June 2020 20:46 (one month ago) link

I like the opening track a lot too, although it's too long.

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 June 2020 21:23 (one month ago) link

This album is great but totally excessive , especially Slothfingers’ warbly double tracked solo wanking on Had to Cry

calstars, Friday, 12 June 2020 00:47 (one month ago) link

Stevie's voice is a bit painful in their Hyde Park concert - it comes across like being yelled at by someone who is a bit gruff and earnest and who badly needs to lighten up.

Maybe they were a bit nervous and under-rehearsed at that point but they all look incredibly serious and holding back in that performance. There's a fairly joyless drum solo at one point.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 12 June 2020 10:25 (one month ago) link

That's pretty much what the album sounds like too.

Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Friday, 12 June 2020 11:12 (one month ago) link

A few more spins have endeared its sloppiness to my ears. It's not quite Neil Young/Crazy Horse territory, but I do enjoy its relative 'grunginess'.

pomenitul, Friday, 12 June 2020 14:17 (one month ago) link

every track is good until "Do What You Like" (though the "A Love Supreme" vocals on that are pretty funny)

I like the Allmans-style intro and outro on "Well All Right"

Brad C., Friday, 12 June 2020 15:24 (one month ago) link

Really good album all the way through, but Can't Find My Way Home is one of the greatest songs of all time.

J. Sam, Friday, 12 June 2020 15:27 (one month ago) link

A few more spins have endeared its sloppiness to my ears. It's not quite Neil Young/Crazy Horse territory, but I do enjoy its relative 'grunginess'.


yeah, it’s really all about a kind of stoney flow..

brimstead, Friday, 12 June 2020 18:08 (one month ago) link

Sometimes I think Baker's approach to the drumset is so idiosyncratic that it might as well be a different instrument from the one played by e.g. Ringo or Watts or even Bonham. It's almost like someone saw a trumpet and said "what if I blow into the big end, instead of the small one?"

I don't love Baker's style, but I understand that he had a specific project, and pursued it doggedly.

I will not speak ill of Winwood.

Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 June 2020 19:01 (one month ago) link

The drums on this don't sound unusually muddy for a Jimmy Miller produced album.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 13 June 2020 11:08 (one month ago) link

oops don't

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 13 June 2020 11:08 (one month ago) link

Not even sure it's the production! Part of my beef with Ginger is that if you're playing like he does - near-constant tom usage - you need to tune for it and have the right heads for it. I hear decent attack on "Sea of Joy," but no roundness. In other places there's low end, but little articulation. Of course the sound is notoriously uneven live, but that's to be expected.

Thought experiment: I wonder if you went back in time with a hygrometer, you'd be able to graph Ginger's drum sounds based on the ambient humidity of the spaces he was in. Correct for the age of the heads, and you could have a decently innovative physics dissertation.

Tom Paine in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 13 June 2020 11:29 (one month ago) link

If there's a weak link on this record, it's the vocals
Well, there's that cover too...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 14 June 2020 03:36 (one month ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:01 (one month ago) link

Presence of the Lord!

flappy bird, Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:06 (one month ago) link

that's the answer I was looking for.

calstars, Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:19 (one month ago) link

that winwood/clapton msg live thing from 10 years ago is pretty boring but winwood’s vocals on “presence of the lord” are heart wrenching

brimstead, Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:22 (one month ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 19 June 2020 00:01 (one month ago) link

Sea of Joy higher than Presence? Shame

calstars, Friday, 19 June 2020 01:01 (one month ago) link

Not as shameful as "Do What You Like" getting any votes at all.

Rapsputin (Tom D.), Friday, 19 June 2020 08:55 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

After giving this album in spin back in June, it's really got its hooks into me. It's a shame Blind Faith didn't continue a bit longer.

The Blind Faith Hyde Park concert (available on YouTube) interests me. It looks like the 60s have turned into a grungy and unslinging heavy vibe, with everyone looking drab and depressed (the audience as well as the band).

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:11 (one week ago) link

*unswinging

In the concert footage there's a brief but really creepy shot of Kenneth Anger in the audience hissing and casting spells. What was he trying to do - inspire an Altamont?

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:13 (one week ago) link


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