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Haven't heard any dud, so far, first two lps are AMAZING sometime British "Kangaroo?" Lp is one of mt favourites ever, so far, I think... there doesn't seem to be a thread on them so far, so, off you go...

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 22 November 2002 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Sometimes spelt w/a "C" of course, too.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 22 November 2002 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

tell me about this band. I have liked mp3s.

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Friday, 22 November 2002 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic. An album-by-album rundown:

Coconut Hotel (Drag City, DC62) LP - the lost 1960s-era album (Mayo, Rick Barthelme, Cunningham lineup). Kinda like a rock band trying to play Morton Feldman.

The Parable of Arable Land - Probably my fave LP by them. Contains two bona-fide classic songs ("Hurricane Fighter Plane" and "Transparent Radiation"), a whole slew of good songs ("War Sucks," most memorably) and a bunch of "Freeform Freak-Outs" where they basically brought their Texas hippie friends into the studio to make noise. Essential.

God Bless the Red Krayola and All Who Sail With It (Radarscope, RAD 16) LP - The second studio album by the classic lineup, this one is much more structured than the first, and kinda takes a Coconut Hotel approach, but with actual songs. Mayo's wordplay really comes to the fore here.

Live 1967 (Drag City, DC92CD) 2CD - Actually, I need to listen to this again, so I can't comment.

Art & Language and The Red Krayola, Corrected Slogans (no label) LP - Mayo's first foray into resurrecting the Red Krayola after the orig. lineup imploded and his solo album (Corky's Debt to His Father) was basically buried. I think this is the first of the "exile-in-England" records. Notable for lyrics/contributions by the Art & Language collective, but probably not the easiest listen.

The Red Krayola with Art & Language, Black Snakes (Rec Rec, Rec Rec 002) LP - the first Rough Trade-y sounding record. Really good, kinda stilted punk/funk.

The Red Crayola with Art & Language, Kangaroo? (Rough Trade, Rough US 12) LP - Probably the classic of the England period.

Soldier-Talk (Radarscope, RAD 18) EP - Here the band is basically Pere Ubu, so...

The Red Krayola, s/t (Drag City, DC52CD) CD - New, 1990s version featuring (at the time) Chicago Illuminati Grubbs, O'Rourke, McEntire (I think he's on it, anyway). Some songs are recycled from older lyrics Mayo wrote in the 80s, but it's a solid rec.

Amor and Language 95 (Drag City, DC53) EP - Probably my favorite thing by the "new" RK lineup.

Hazel (Drag City, DC98) LP - Here's where they start to drag...

Fingerpainting is good, but I never bought it. There's a few holes for me, I need to get more stuff...

hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Classic. An album-by-album rundown:

Coconut Hotel (Drag City, DC62) LP - the lost 1960s-era album (Mayo, Rick Barthelme, Cunningham lineup). Kinda like a rock band trying to play Morton Feldman.

The Parable of Arable Land - Probably my fave LP by them. Contains two bona-fide classic songs ("Hurricane Fighter Plane" and "Transparent Radiation"), a whole slew of good songs ("War Sucks," most memorably) and a bunch of "Freeform Freak-Outs" where they basically brought their Texas hippie friends into the studio to make noise. Essential.

God Bless the Red Krayola and All Who Sail With It (Radarscope, RAD 16) LP - The second studio album by the classic lineup, this one is much more structured than the first, and kinda takes a Coconut Hotel approach, but with actual songs. Mayo's wordplay really comes to the fore here.

Live 1967 (Drag City, DC92CD) 2CD - Actually, I need to listen to this again, so I can't comment.

Art & Language and The Red Krayola, Corrected Slogans (no label) LP - Mayo's first foray into resurrecting the Red Krayola after the orig. lineup imploded and his solo album (Corky's Debt to His Father) was basically buried. I think this is the first of the "exile-in-England" records. Notable for lyrics/contributions by the Art & Language collective, but probably not the easiest listen.

The Red Krayola with Art & Language, Black Snakes (Rec Rec, Rec Rec 002) LP - the first Rough Trade-y sounding record. Really good, kinda stilted punk/funk.

The Red Crayola with Art & Language, Kangaroo? (Rough Trade, Rough US 12) LP - Probably the classic of the England period.

Soldier-Talk (Radarscope, RAD 18) EP - Here the band is basically Pere Ubu, so...

The Red Krayola, s/t (Drag City, DC52CD) CD - New, 1990s version featuring (at the time) Chicago Illuminati Grubbs, O'Rourke, McEntire (I think he's on it, anyway). Some songs are recycled from older lyrics Mayo wrote in the 80s, but it's a solid rec.

Amor and Language 95 (Drag City, DC53) EP - Probably my favorite thing by the "new" RK lineup.

Hazel (Drag City, DC98) LP - Here's where they start to drag...

Fingerpainting is good, but I never bought it. There's a few holes for me, I need to get more stuff...

hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry about the duplicate post.

hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I enjoy all but the last 2, but those 2 I haven't spent some quality time with. I do give much attention to this band and recommend them to most people with an ear for something wierd yet has song structures most of the time. The Parable of Arable Land and God Bless the Red Krayola and All Who Sail With It are the ones to start with. If you like Skip Spence and/or Smog do not miss Mayo Thompson's "Corky's Debt to His Father"

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 22 November 2002 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, do not miss Corky's Debt to His Father if you want to see where David Grubbs has been cribbing notes from.

hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Question about fidelity: I have the (German?) 2-on-1 CD of Parable.../God Bless..., and the sound quality is poor. Was it recorded that way, or is this perhaps a crappy mastering job?

Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Crappy mastering job. I have that too, I believe it was on Decal, a "division" of Charly, so it's British. I'm not sure who owns the rights to those records, but it's clearly not Mayo, otherwise I'd bet Drag City would've released cleaned-up versions by now.

hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i luv the 1st 2 albums (& coconut hotel the 1 time i ever heard it) but the 70s/80s stuff is no fucking fun at all & the 90s stuff i dunno, i never listened to it

dz (doorag), Friday, 22 November 2002 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think D. Grubbsy makes a big secret of his liking for RC + Mayo T - when I saw him live he ended w/ a real nice acoustic versh of 'Corky's Debt...'

The Stephen Prina solo alb on Drag City, produced by Gastr Del Sol, is a real dog, however. Isn't there a Barthelme involved w/ the RC now?

Yeah, the first two International Artists recs are pretty spesh - would like to hear that live drag city thing (doesn't it have Fahey 'jamming' w/ 'em at one point?) The sound has always been really shitty, btw (at least on any reissue, vinyl or CD, since the early 80s, when I first scored these lps) - the first and second 13th Floor Elevators are even cruder-sounding - but it helps to make it sound more deranged and acid-y and Texas longhair, which is gd, no?

Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 22 November 2002 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think D. Grubbsy makes a big secret of his liking for RC + Mayo T - when I saw him live he ended w/ a real nice acoustic versh of 'Corky's Debt...'

Oh, I know. 'Twas a joke. I like Dave, and I wouldn't know much about RC if I hadn't seen him with 'em, January '95 (best RC show I've ever seen with Mayo, Tom Watson, Grubbs-y and George Hurley on LIVE [i.e. not electronic drumpad] drums).

The Stephen Prina solo alb on Drag City, produced by Gastr Del Sol, is a real dog, however. Isn't there a Barthelme involved w/ the RC now?

Never heard the Prina, although he's a great guy with a great voice. It's the same Rick (aka Frederic) Barthelme on Fingerpainting as on the early stuff because Mayo took some early stuff and used it for that record. I don't think Rick's played with Mayo since the late 1960s...

Yeah, the first two International Artists recs are pretty spesh - would like to hear that live drag city thing (doesn't it have Fahey 'jamming' w/ 'em at one point?) The sound has always been really shitty, btw (at least on any reissue, vinyl or CD, since the early 80s, when I first scored these lps) - the first and second 13th Floor Elevators are even cruder-sounding - but it helps to make it sound more deranged and acid-y and Texas longhair, which is gd, no?

Yeah, Fahey's on it, but I can't recall what his contributions sound like right now. Apparently after that concert, they cut a studio record together, but the tapes were lost and are now residing somewhere in the dustbin of history.

hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...
Classic. Parable of Arable Land is among the essential off-the-wall psychedelic documents. Everything they have released has things to recommend it, though the stuff from the '60s holds up best. Not mentioned above, the self-titled effort on Drag City is a very solid one, and Malefactor, Ade is among their more wigged out experimental discs. The latter features an appearance by crazed avant-garde accordianist Rudiger Carl.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 9 March 2003 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

mostly classic - second Amor and Langauge as a good one from the second era. Coconut Hotel BLEW MY MIND in high school. It's not really, err, "good", per se, but it taught me that music, what you could put on a record, was limitless. Flash forward to 1996 and I've started a noise label.

Corky's Debt is one of my favorite records ever.

And I think Grubbs borrows just enough to still maintain his own unique voice - ALWAYS liked him. Anyone heard the new duo recording with Mats Gustafsson?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 9 March 2003 05:07 (seventeen years ago) link

"parable of arable land" is still my favorite.

anyone have any comment on _live 1967_? since i recently saw a copy for the first time since it came out, i was wondering if it was worthwhile.

your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 9 March 2003 07:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I listened to it once - somehow, I didn't really connect with it. I should probably give it another shot but I'm sure you know how hard it is to go back to things, especially when there's this fucking Supersilent record that I cannot justify taking out of the CD player for ANYTHING right now and etc etc

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 9 March 2003 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Fuck, I really need to get the Supersilent stuff.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 9 March 2003 08:53 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, you can't go wrong with the first two recs.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 9 March 2003 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't listened to them in many, many years. I saw them live once - supporting Pere Ubu, in 1978. They were good.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
I just saw the Red Krayola at the Knitting Factory. It was one of the best rock shows I've seen in years. Unbelievably fantastic. They did songs from all the periods but kept it seriously rocking. Wonderful. Just amazing.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I think re-issues are here now/soon.

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Who's in the band now?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 06:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I was hoping someone would volunteer that information! The only person I'm sure of was David Grubbs, who was really great, he played a danelectro, did back-up vocals and one lead vocals. Mayo played guitar and sang(and is really and astounding guitar player.) The third guitarist, which I guessed but couldn't remember his name, looks like it was Tom Watson, who played on the 90s RK material. I kept saying I think that guy was in Overpass or something, a web search says Slovenly. The keyboardist/other vocalist who did many harmonies as well as the Lora Logic(or was it Gina Birch?) parts from Kangaroo I had no idea, but a web search tells me it was an artist/composer named Stephen Prina. He wore a black armband with the initials RK on it! I just downloaded his resume, he spent time in Germany and is quite accomplished it seems. He appears on all the 90s Red Krayola records as well as Gastr's Camoufleur and a Grubbs solo record. In 1980 he put out his own record called A Structural Analysis and Reconstruction of: Arnold Schoenberg: The Complete Music for Solo Piano, Glenn Gould, As Determined by the Difference Between the Measurements of Duration and Displacement and in 99 had a CD on Drag City called Push Comes to Love, which is news to me, as well as a CD on the Cortical Foundation in 2000. I need to look into all of this, anyone hear this?

http://www.dragcity.com/bands/prina.html

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm angry that i missed the chicago show.

i haven't heard that prina record.

how is that singles compilation?

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

the drummer may have been George Hurley? It sure wasn't John McEntire.

I haven't really absorbed the singles collection and only knew the stuff I already had, but first impressions are that it covers a lot of terrain and has some great stuff on it, so it's definitely worth it.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I have the singles collection but have heard little else RK-wise. I find it baffling and entertaining.

Are there RK albums with the Epic Soundtracks/Lora Logic/Ravenstine line-up?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

if the drummer was a muscular guy with a big shock of curly hair in the front, it was George.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

run, don't walk, and go buy Kangaroo?, the Rough Trade line-up record. Gina Birch as well, I think.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

why you not there, mr. stencil?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

and I just looked at photos, I guess it was Hurley.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I forgot about it! Also, I like teh RK but it's been a few years since I've seen them and it wasn't really on my radar this time.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Funny thing about the singles compilation: they couldn't get the rights to "Wives in Orbit" and "Yik-Yak" (like the 'Soldier Talk' LP, some legal wrangling with Radar/Warners that's never been resolved), so what they did is put fake applause at the beginning and end of those two tracks and claimed they were "live versions from an unreleased single". Haha.

The singles comp. is pretty damn necessary, if you're into the Red Krayola at all.

Lefty, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

also I've seen RK be amazing one night and not so good the next. Happens (tho the last time I saw them at the KF, back in '96, they were amazing - directly after a crap show the night before at Bard).

I need the singles comp. but goddamn am I ever broke and not able to buy records these days.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

what they did is put fake applause at the beginning and end of those two tracks and claimed they were "live versions from an unreleased single". Haha.

that's great.

how do people rate RK's drag city records? not the reissues, the newer stuff.

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sure they could've just put it out and nobody at Warners would've noticed...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

The Red Krayola, s/t (Drag City, DC52CD) CD - New, 1990s version featuring (at the time) Chicago Illuminati Grubbs, O'Rourke, McEntire (I think he's on it, anyway). Some songs are recycled from older lyrics Mayo wrote in the 80s, but it's a solid rec.

Amor and Language 95 (Drag City, DC53) EP - Probably my favorite thing by the "new" RK lineup.

Hazel (Drag City, DC98) LP - Here's where they start to drag...

Fingerpainting is good, but I never bought it. There's a few holes for me, I need to get more stuff...

-- hstencil (hstenci...), November 22nd, 2002.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

hstencil, you should come over later this week and burn my collection. I have the week off from work to go to the dentist and clean my house and watch TV.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

you should burn copies for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

(i probably have less money than hstencil!)

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Dan, I'm down with that but you should make some requests for stuff from me that I can bring over to burn in exchange, too.

xpost - am let's not speculate.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

That Goodbyes and Hellos EP was, I think, their last release of new material. It's got to be up there with the worst records of all time. Intentionally so, it would seem.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

when was that? it's not listed here:

http://www.dragcity.com/bands/rk.html

I remember not liking Malefactor, Ade. I don't have any of the 90s stuff except for the 14 single, though I remember liking some of the early Drag City stuff.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

90s Drag City stuff:

'The Red Krayola': One of their finest LPs, I think. Rememeber the much ballyhooed "Chicago scene" of the mid 90s? This album has all the luminaries (Grubbs, O'Rourke, McEntire, etc.) and is about the only artifact from that scene that holds up today. Mayo keep their excesses firmly in check and, for once, hook them up with memorable music. (Do you really want to listen to a Gastr del Sol LP today?!)

'Amour & Language' EP (mini album?): In the same vein as above; very tight.

'Hazel': A mixed bag. Some great stuff here, but this has always seemed to me more like a grab-bag of tunes than a unified album. It sprawls all overe the place. Great songs, though, like "Jimmy Two Bad"

'Fingerpainting': I love this record. I've never read anything good about it, though. Terrific concept: take 60s Red Krayola demos and fuck with them relentlessly. A psychic version of 'Parable of Arable Land' perhaps?

'Blues, Hollers, And Hellos' (EP? Mini album?): Their latest "new" recording. What's been the hold up since then, I wonder? Also one of their best records.

In other words, all of their Drag City stuff has something to recommend about it. Some people find 'Fingerpainting' to be extreme unlistenable shit. I disagree, but each to her/his own.

Lefty, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I would like to hear Fingerpainting again, it's been so long I can barely remember it.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

If the third guitarist was a white-haired guy, he was indeed Tom Watson, of Overpass/Slovenly.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Tom's got white hair now? Wish I hadn't lost the slide I let him borrow.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

i'll add tom to the list of indie musicians hstencil has related anecdotes about. are we at 100 yet?

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, gee, sorry that I've had and made friends with people, amateur!st.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Blues, Hollers, and Hellos was the one I was referring to. It's got a couple of songs that at least come close to other decent Drag City era RK material, but there are these codas on a couple of the songs that consist of "somnambulistic guitar noodlings." On one of these songs, it goes on for thirteen minutes. It's like, OK, it's conceptual, but it's not really all that great of an idea.

That "14" single is my favorite of the Drag City records.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Parable is one of the ultimate acid punk rekkerdz!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Has anyone heard their new album (due out on Monday, somewhat confusingly called Introduction) yet? Is it really as good / as much of a return-to-form as the review in the lates Ucnut would have us believe?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Saturday, 8 April 2006 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't believe nobody's done this yet....

Klassic!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 9 April 2006 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Describe please!

don, Sunday, 9 April 2006 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

dan selzer, you are the weakest link!!

whenever i listen to the red krayola records i have, i always say to myself: "I should listen to these more." but i don't, really.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 10 April 2006 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan's description was good enough to convince me to order it.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 April 2006 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

You should listen to more Red Krayola.
You should also get Mayo Thompson's solo album Corky's Debt to His Father.
Everyone should, I mean.

Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Monday, 10 April 2006 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

my description of what?

Corky's Debt to His Father is probably my favorite record of all time.

The early records aren't records I listen to straight through, I usually skip to the songs I like.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Dan's "Klassic" komment was in konnection with the band in general, not the new album.

There's an MP3 of one of the songs from "Introducing" up on Drag City's site... it sounds similar to material from, say, "Hazel." I'm looking forward to getting the album...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

oh yeah, I haven't heard the new album. sorry.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, too late, I've ordered it now and if it's rub I shall blame you entirely.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

hazel.. what a record.. im so blase.. one of my favorite songs ever!! i found parable to be quite grating though.. and some of those singles are a bit hard to take but 'the old mans dream' is a classic song.. cant wait to hear the new stuff..

gwolfcow, Monday, 10 April 2006 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Sometimes I'll sing "An Old Man's Dream" out loud to myself, just for sheer pleasure. ("Portrait of Jackson Pollack," too.)

I actually never understood the chorus until recently, when I read a reference to/explanation of the "Land of Culchane" (or however you spell it) -- though now I've forgotten what it means!

If someone could explain the "Tio tio tio tio tinx" chorus of that song about Trotsky, I'd love that (and I promise I'll remember it!).

morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 10 April 2006 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Aristophanes:

"Oh, rustic Muse of such varied note, tio, tio, tio, tiotinx, I sing with you in the groves and on the mountain tops, tio, tio, tio, tio, tiotinx.[10] I poured forth sacred strains from my golden throat in honour of the god Pan,[11] tio, tio, tio, tiotinx, from the top of the thickly leaved ash, and my voice mingles with the mighty choirs who extol Cybele on the mountain tops,[12] tototototototototinx. 'Tis to our concerts that Phrynichus comes to pillage like a bee the ambrosia of his songs, the sweetness of which so charms the ear, tio, tio, tio, tio, tinx.

If there be one of you spectators who wishes to spend the rest of his life quietly among the birds, let him come to us. All that is disgraceful and forbidden by law on earth is on the contrary honourable among us, the birds. For instance, among you 'tis a crime to beat your father, but with us 'tis an estimable deed; it's considered fine to run straight at your father and hit him, saying, "Come, lift your spur if you want to fight."[13] The runaway slave, whom you brand, is only a spotted francolin with us.[14] Are you Phrygian like Spintharus?[15] Among us you would be the Phrygian bird, the goldfinch, of the race of Philemon.[16] Are you a slave and a Carian like Execestides? Among us you can create yourself fore-fathers;[17] you can always find relations. Does the son of Pisias want to betray the gates of the city to the foe? Let him become a partridge, the fitting offspring of his father; among us there is no shame in escaping as cleverly as a partridge.

So the swans on the banks of the Hebrus, tio, tio, tio, tio, tiotinx, mingle their voices to serenade Apollo, tio, tio, tio, tio. tiotinx, flapping their wings the while, tio, tio, tio, tio, tiotinx; their notes reach beyond the clouds of heaven; all the dwellers in the forest stand still with astonishment and delight; a calm rests upon the waters, and the Graces and the choirs in Olympus catch up the strain, tio, tio, tio, tio, tiotinx."

OrgoneGirl, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Hey, thanks!!

Introduction is really good, by the way -- like, surprisingly REALLY good. It's definitely my favorite since Amor & Language.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

From latest Drag City newsletter:


THE RED KRAYOLA PRESENT CORRECTED SLOGANS LIVE!
The Red Krayola. Let's not be hyperbolic or anything (what, we exaggerate?) but Mayo Thompson and The Red Krayola have essentially inverted entire genres of music with their redefinitions of 'rock' over the years. They've managed to make albums entirely distinct from each other time and again. However, this weekend, for the first time, Mayo will lead The Red Krayola through a live set of the Corrected Slogans albums at the esteemed REDCAT (at CalArts Downtown Center for Contemporary Arts) in Los Angeles tomorrow.

(Meaning Nov. 7, apparently.)
Originally released in 1976, Corrected Slogans is a raucous, unabashed and, gloriously piece of provisional propaganda. Projecting from sparse instrumental setting and showcasing a profusion of collected voices, it is equivocally unlike any other recorded Red Krayola. Idiosyncratic and aggressive, it's required listening for anyone who calls themselves a fan of conceptual art! Travel from far away if you have to, this is NOT
something to be missed. And so, we won't. Will you?

more info here:
http://www.redcat.org/event/red-krayola-0

dow, Friday, 6 November 2015 22:41 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://www.dragcity.com/uploads/products/2366/images/1096/large_DC651.jpg

Baby Child Care OUT ON May 13TH, 2016!
Drag City presents a newly-unearthed artifact from the long history of The Red Krayola: 1984's previously-unheard Baby and Child Care! Every year, we discover in our society the injustices of history in many and myriad forms. Surely among the most profound realizations of 2016 will be that the heads of (record) industry circa 1984 did not hear a fantastic new release when the tapes for Baby and Child Care were played to them! Grooving sinuously in prime mid-80s form in a production redolent with funk, dub and new-wave inflections, Baby and Child Care is of a musical vintage whose dry complexity is even more appreciable today.

The revolutionary advice found within The Common Sense and Baby Child Care opened doors in the mid-40s that are widening still; at the time of this album project, it had influenced a generation or two of generally young parents.When presented with the lyric qualities of Dr. Spock's psychoanalytic texts, passages of which had been transposed by Art & Language's Michael Baldwin and Mel Ramsden, Mayo Thompson immediately set them to music. The Red Krayola "Black Snakes" band provided musical accompaniment in performances recorded by Eric Radcliffe at Blackwing Studios in London. Thirty-two years later, the conversant playing and production approach of Baby and Child Care comes across with an enduring completeness that belies its position on the shelf for the past several decades.

Standing tall next to the already-known classics of early-80s Red Krayola, from Kangaroo? through Three Songs on a Trip to the United States, Baby and Child Care drops into the hands of parents and progeny alike on May 13th!

The Red Krayola Online:
Official Website-http://www.dragcity.com/artists/the-red-krayola"> http://www.dragcity.com/artists/the-red-krayola

dow, Saturday, 30 July 2016 16:35 (four years ago) link

THE REDDIT KRAYOLA

As a devoted fan of Drag City (if you are reading this, guilty as charged!), familiarity with the many (and merry) works of Mayo Thompson is expected of you. Possesssed of such an enjoyable body of work over these past 50 years with and without The Red Kryaola, it's easy not to imagine what goes on in that man's mind - just based on the records, we certainly can't. We're all in luck then; earlier this week, for the first time ever, Mayo Thompson participated in an AMA on r/indieheads on Reddit!

https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/4v21u0/im_mayo_thompson_ama/
slobberfest follows:
In addition to his innovative/influential/inflammable output with The Red Krayola, a group whose history spans psychedelic, punk, post-punk, and post-rock eras and continues on through to the present day, Mayo is a visual artist and former professor at the Pasdena Art Center College of Design. As well as embodying the "International Artists" sound of Texas in the late-60s alongside label mates 13th Floor Elevators and playing with Cleveland's seminal Pere Ubu in the early 1980s, he played an essential part in creating the "Rough Trade sound" in collaboration wth Geoff Travis, producing records for The Raincoats, The Fall, Cabaret Voltaire, James 'Blood' Ulmer, and Stiff Little Fingers. He collaborated subsequently with Krautrock legends Moebius and Conny Plank. Additionally, he has produced albums by Felt, The Chills and Primal Scream. With an ever-expanding lineup of Krayolites and collaborators including Frederick Barthelme, John Fahey, Allen Ravenstine, Lora Logic, Epic Soundtracks, Albert Oehlen, Jim O'Rourke, George Hurley, and MANY others, PLUS a career spanning genres, mediums and the requisite highs and lows, eliciting parables (and real life incidents) from Mayo proved to be a hoot!

dow, Saturday, 30 July 2016 16:39 (four years ago) link

oh well, thee right links at least---appalling description of Houston even after Civil Rights Act. RK had to do something alright.
http://www.houstonpress.com/music/the-mystical-origins-of-the-red-krayola-8617795

dow, Saturday, 13 August 2016 03:58 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Drag City alert:

Celebrating their 50th anniversary, The Red Krayola--recently dubbed the best Texas psychedelic band in history-appear for two nights with separate concerts. Band members performing throughout the weekend include Bill Bowman (bass);Dylan Ryan (piano, drums);Tom Watson (guitar, vocals);Sandy Yang (vocals, drums); and Mayo Thompson (vocals, piano). These performances mark the band's first in New York since their celebrated sets at the Whitney Biennial in 2012.
On Friday, November 4 at 8pm, the group perform the New York premiere of a new arrangement of Corrected Slogans (1976), their first collaboration with Art & Language.
As Art & Language says: "The texts-the lyrics-of Corrected Slogans, which consist of insecurely rhyming and metrical samplings of Marxist economic theory, historiography, and social critique, are in the main, 'not at home' in the music. Together, they make a chimera. It could be said simplistically that the rock n' roll of the music carries the message of the text into circumstances where it would not otherwise be heard (on the Salvation Army principle that the Devil should not always have the best tunes). Alternatively, it could be said that the improbable détente between music and text is a disguise for both: the music clothes the text in auditory garments such that it cannot appear as itself, and the text makes a semantic demand on the music that it can only hide."
On Saturday, November 5 at 8pm, the band presents a NYC jamboree (Cooking in The Kitchen), a survey of 50 years of their music with the Familiar Ugly. Preceding the Saturday performance will be a conversation with Mayo Thompson at 5pm.

dow, Friday, 9 September 2016 18:59 (four years ago) link

JUst enjoying Corky's Debt To His Father.
Glad I finally got this earlier this year.

Stevolende, Friday, 9 September 2016 21:15 (four years ago) link

RK music in this:

Art + Language at Soccer Club Club, Opening September 15th!

Soccer Club Club is proud to present selected works from two different periods of Art + Language's illustrious visual career. For one week only, multi-media works will be displayed for the first time in Chicago.

Please join us for the opening on Thursday, September 15th at 7PM! Complimentary drinks will be provided by Illuminated Brew Works and records will be spun by the Drag City DJs!
Art & Language Sings a Song

The actors of the Jackson Pollock Bar perform a script written by Art & Language in which they pretend to be Art & Language learning to sing a number of songs from an LP by Art & Language and The Red Krayola called 'Sighs Trapped by Liars' (Drag City Records). In fact, they are lip-synching to a prepared sound track that includes all their speech as well as their singing. The performance was at ZKM Karlsruhe, March 2nd, 2008.

Posters for Art & Language Paints a Picture Installed in the Style of The Jackson Pollock Bar

'Art & Language paints a Picture' is the product of a particular moment in the early 1980s and it relates to a specific body of work from that period: a series of paintings of the Artists' Studio. The text was originally written as a kind of drama - which is to say that the dramatic form was used as a mode of representation of Art & Language's idiomatic discourse. But there was no intention or expectation that the text would be performed. And it goes without saying that there was no conception that anyone might go so far as to carry out the stage directions, let alone do so while miming the words in a language foreign not only to the original text but also to the principal actors themselves, for Horn and Cieslinski are both German. Yet this is the project which the Jackson Pollock Bar have undertaken: to mime the text in English while fulfilling the practical instructions which the text contains: to be painting actors, to act painting, not under any immediately familiar guise but under conditions of bathos and desperation.
ART + LANGUAGE
September 15th - September 23rd
Soccer Club Club
2923 N. Cicero Ave
Chicago, IL 60641
312-455-1015

dow, Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:55 (four years ago) link

JUst enjoying Corky's Debt To His Father.

Yes. Worried Worried is an alltime classic.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 12 September 2016 01:01 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Heads up: Mayo Thompson is performing all of Corky’s Debt to His Father for free in LA next month: https://hammer.ucla.edu/programs-events/2020/mayo-thompson

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:22 (nine months ago) link

Oh sh*t, thanks! I had assumed the Corrected Slogans performance downtown in 2015 would possibly be the last time I saw Mayo perform - thrilled to have another opportunity.

(My heart skipped a beat when I saw this thread revived, not gonna lie...)

I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:32 (nine months ago) link

Haha, me too. Roky and Mayo in the same year would be too much.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:56 (nine months ago) link

Saw the show in NY. with every other head in the city. It was fantastic.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:31 (nine months ago) link

The group played a few shows in SF recently, which Drag City had said would be recorded for a live album... but from what I hear (from someone who attended), Mayo ended up mainly playing Bob Dylan covers!

I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:13 (nine months ago) link

I've seen Mayo/ Red Crayola twice. Once amazing. Once terrible. Drunk and unable to play.

Duke, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 23:37 (nine months ago) link

Let's hope he's up to it

Duke, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 23:38 (nine months ago) link

He didn’t play so you don’t have to worry about that.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 23:45 (nine months ago) link

Saw him at the Kitchen 4 years or so ago. He didn't play or sing a note. Sat at a desk reading from a detective novel with random excerpts from Jansson's History of Art and his own interpolations. At the end, he asked the audience if there were any questions (there weren't). Couldn't tell if he was trolling.
Watched some video of the Corky's Debt Band at the Cropped Out fest around that time and it was a total shambles if memory serves.
Remaining tix for LPR show were $35 + 2 drink minimum when i checked. Gave it a miss.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:17 (nine months ago) link

I was at that kitchen "performance". It was totally impenetrable. IIRC he asked if there were any questions and immediately got up and left.

This Corky's performance was great. His voice isn't what it once was but it was good enough and his physicality was entertaining. The band was aces. Don't know if he played the cropped out fest but guitar was handled by Tom Watson of Slovenly who's played with him/Red Krayola on and off since the Drag City days.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 December 2019 01:02 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, I knew it was a gamble. At that price it was a stretch, so the uncertainty as to whether he would put a good band together to do it properly this time or wouldn't bother was decisive for me. Glad to hear he did it up. That's one of my favorite records.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 19 December 2019 01:19 (nine months ago) link

The Corrected Slogans thing at REDCAT was such a pleasure... talk about albums I never dreamed I’d see performed live!

I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Thursday, 19 December 2019 01:43 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just a reminder for you LA folks, this free concert is on Thursday: https://hammer.ucla.edu/programs-events/2020/mayo-thompson

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:58 (eight months ago) link

I will be there (assuming there are still tickets left by the time I get to Westwood!). Anyone else here going?

BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:00 (eight months ago) link

I will be there of course (did I mention I work at the Hammer).

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 00:42 (eight months ago) link

No, I didn't realize that! Save me a ticket if you can, ha ha...

BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 00:44 (eight months ago) link

There’s apparently a pretty long guest list, but I’m confident I’ll get a ticket!

Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 02:29 (eight months ago) link

That was amazing. I’m so happy. It was actually a pretty emotional thing, to be there and see Mayo perform those songs. The band was terrific, too.

Thank you, pgwp, for posting about it here.

Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 04:44 (eight months ago) link

Yes, it was a great show! I think Mayo’s dogs sitting in the front row was the highlight. One seemed to know all the right times to bark.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 10 January 2020 06:09 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

FYI, he’s doing this again in Chicago, in March:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7ocEkRgkdw/?igshid=13vhma8ks4m7n

dad genes (morrisp), Saturday, 25 January 2020 20:28 (eight months ago) link

bought a ticket! thanks!

na (NA), Monday, 27 January 2020 17:57 (eight months ago) link

I should go to this

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 27 January 2020 20:19 (eight months ago) link

I am going to this

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 30 January 2020 14:44 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

chicago show cancelled :(

na (NA), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:53 (six months ago) link

That's too bad. I wonder if it's b/c Mayo's mobility is limited (he was using a cane at the L.A. show).

tamagotchi revival artist (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:58 (six months ago) link

I am not going to this

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:19 (six months ago) link


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