Beats / riffs / grooves that chug along in a syncopated way and then go CLANG or SCREECH

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like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcaP2TZd5VU
Kaleidoscope - I'm Crazy (1969)

what other songs do this ?

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:07 (four years ago) link

The Talking Drum by King Crimson does this in a pretty dramatic way

frogbs, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

i mean as a part of the overall groove tho, as a repeating figure

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link

this is probably not at all what you're thinking but this has some of the greatest record-stop sounds i've ever heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05AXMAjMvKQ

crystal-brained yogahead (map), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

Having listened to the original track I've got no idea what you mean tbh.

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link

You mean the bit when it goes into the organ solo?

Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link

i mean what the guitar bend at the end of every measure. it's not really notes, just kind of a rhythmic atonal squawk that punctuates the groove before it wraps back around again

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link

i'm looking for songs that are like "jump around" by house of pain except the squeal is at the other end of the groove

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

also:

whoosh
ring
cuica noise

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link

lollll... solidarity with @budo, I know where you're coming from.

I feel like there may be a kinship with certain "train" songs, like rockabilly staple "train kept a rollin"

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:22 (four years ago) link

Gastr del Sol do this a couple of times on Upgrade & Afterlife. "The Sea Incertain" at ~2:30, "Hello Spiral" at ~8:30.

Does VU's "European Son" count?

Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link

highway 61 revisited?

voodoo chili, Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link

How about kerblunk?

Starts about 1:14 and for most of the rest of the track. I remember reading it is actually a tape loop which is a neat trick to sync up with the sequencer in 1981.

John Kongos - I'm Dreaming

https://youtu.be/sSFhJUl9oHE

Noel Emits, Thursday, 28 May 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link

highway 61 revisited?

getting warmer for sure !

John Kongos - I'm Dreaming

close but a crucial element in what i'm looking for is something more discordant, or at least jarring: a gentle disruption, a way of lifting the listener out of the groove and then setting them back down in it on the other side. it's about tension and release. the clanging guitar chords in "cissy strut" are a close cousin of what i'm getting at.

another example might be the first few bars of:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX14BBejEVE
At The Drive-In - Rascuache

an analogous phenomenon is in funk and boogie tracks when the beat drops ever so briefly and all the singers go "AAHHHHHH" in unison and then the groove starts again.

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

that link again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX14BBejEVE

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

https://youtu.be/6ZT7AdifbDs

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

don't know why that didn't preview but it's Mike & Rich - Jelly Fish

I guess Insane In The Brain might count?

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 29 May 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

"insane in the brain" is exactly the sort of thing i'm talking about !

another example of basically the same thing is fatboy slim - "you're not from brighton"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQzOkcELa5A

what i'm particularly curious to track down, though, is examples of this happening in instrumental ensembles, i.e. not necessarily a sample. the quasi-atonal clang as relief, a rhythmic figure that punctuates the end of the bar (or ever few bars), adding tension and then releasing as the groove resolves into the downbeat on the following "one"

budo jeru, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link

a close match, perhaps a progenitor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWRslLvUCOk
the seeds - can't seem to make you mind

budo jeru, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link

the remix of Devo's Here to Go that was on the Greatest Hits ends with a car crash and an explosion

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link

I feel with the Bomb Squad influenced examples like "Jump Around" & "Insane In The Brain", there would be some PE songs that meet this criteria, but the songs I'm thinking of consist more sustained noise throughout the bar rather than just at the end of the bar ("Rebel Without A Pause" etc.)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link

does the intro of bell biv devoe's 'poison' fit this thread?

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 21:09 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdU1SviepmA

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

icp - hokus pokus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyMG3b05u0

budo jeru, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 18:17 (one week ago) link

Queens of the Stone Age “Do It Again” has a screech at the end of the main riff

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 18:44 (one week ago) link

good one! thank you.

budo jeru, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 19:24 (one week ago) link

Maybe my wave by Soundgarden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UFvacMcPCw

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Thursday, 24 October 2024 02:14 (one week ago) link

mmm not really but i have come to peace with ppl not understanding what i'm looking for

budo jeru, Thursday, 24 October 2024 14:58 (one week ago) link

I think the guy from System of a Down does a lot of this but the first thing that popped into my head was Marc Ribot's guitar part for the live version of Big Black Mariah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysdSddhDvb4

Maresn3st, Thursday, 24 October 2024 15:13 (one week ago) link

the screech in "Owner of a Lonely Heart" is the first thing to come to mind
prob also not what you're looking for but it's a screech nevertheless

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 October 2024 22:32 (one week ago) link


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