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whoever has chosen the samples has chosen tori amos album cuts...

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787781422

...and critically acclaimed britney album cuts...

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787521883

...and fucking darkwave...

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787973053

which leads me to one of two conclusions:

a) in my sleep I have somehow been curating this stuff (I have not been curating this stuff) or
b) whoever is curating it is a former music critic

(also I don't... hate any of this, I for one welcome the robot overlords etc)

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 30 April 2020 17:47 (two months ago) link

i'm not seeing the title field on the homepage, just "model", "collection", "artist", "genre", and "temp". is there a way i can display the song title field here?

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:07 (two months ago) link

Again, with no lyrics to guide it, the AI tries to generate an entirely new Prince song. Curious what @anildash thinks of it! https://t.co/45w0butRo0 pic.twitter.com/XY6QlP7Hh5

— Andy Baio (@waxpancake) April 30, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:07 (two months ago) link

I don't quite understand how it works but the clips I've listened to rule.

emil.y, Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:46 (two months ago) link

i'm not seeing the title field on the homepage, just "model", "collection", "artist", "genre", and "temp". is there a way i can display the song title field here?

― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, April 30, 2020 2:07 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if it's a re-rendition then you should be able to google the lyrics

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:53 (two months ago) link

The yo la tengo one is beautiful

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 April 2020 19:01 (two months ago) link

ok, i think i'm starting to get the hang of this

lots of joe bonamassa, if it is a former music critic curating this they have strange sense of humor

here's some of the ones that have hit me so far... i can't figure out how to search so i'm just browsing

genesis - twilight alehouse: https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787938760
the famous elvis presley version of "come on eileen": https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/793420750
frank zappa introducing the members of his band: https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787749226
devo - blockhead: https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787948423

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 19:53 (two months ago) link

i think the ai got this one a little bit wrong, i mean, it doesn't sound much like beethoven to me

https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/802878544

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 20:29 (two months ago) link

ok, i've dug into this a little more and i think i have a decent understanding of what's going on here

the model has essentially _no_ curation. the lyrics are being scraped from online lyrics databases, with no post-processing, so for a lee and nancy duet between verses the vocals go "LEE HAZLEWOOD" and "NANCY SINATRA" because that's what's written down. similarly, the deep cuts are simply a factor of the model not caring if it's a song anybody knows or cares about. it picks a song by stevie wonder or the rolling stones and that's what it goes with, even if what it's going with is "in another land". this is why we get things like a computer's attempt to re-create frank zappa introducing his band, and why the two genesis songs it's worked on are "hey!" and "twilight alehouse". where specific songs are picked it's not necessarily for musical reasons. the site has like ten different attempts at re-creating the fall's "rebellious jukebox", probably because whoever set it up just went looking for anything with "jukebox" in the title and not because anybody knew or cared about the fall. the different versions of "rebellious jukebox" are all pretty brilliant.

out of other things it's worked on, the james brown re-creations tend towards brilliance and are worth checking out.

anybody who's figured out how to scrape the soundcloud links of these lmk, these are the sorts of things that will vanish and it would be nice if at least some of them didn't.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 21:25 (two months ago) link

it also means it scrapes troll stuff like this https://lyrics.fandom.com/wiki/Britney_Spears:If_You_Love_Me

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 30 April 2020 22:32 (two months ago) link

So far the best one I've heard is this obvious song:
https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787632178

Though I also really dig this Saint Etienne interpretation:
https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787621441

MarkoP, Thursday, 30 April 2020 22:33 (two months ago) link

I'm enjoying this Alan Jackson classic:

We're introducing Jukebox,
a neural net which generates
music including singing
as raw audio
and is able to generate
new one to three
minute samples.
It can synthesize
in the style of
existing artists and genres,
and can also generate
any lyrics we give it
in the voice of
our chosen artists.
We're releasing an album
of selected samples
along with the
trained model weights
and sampling code.

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 30 April 2020 22:38 (two months ago) link

the bruno mars one reminded me of avalanches

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 30 April 2020 22:39 (two months ago) link

so there are one minute samples and four minute samples... anyone heard a four-minute that's interesting for more than about a minute or so?

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 23:53 (two months ago) link

anyone heard a four-minute that's interesting for more than about a minute or so?

this four-minute Charlie Pride mockup is pretty interesting on a structural level: about a third of the way through it goes from something resembling a chorus to a brief instrumental break, to a spoken-word bridge, to a choir-and-pedal-steel fakeout outro, to another verse, to yet another bombastic outro that fades out in the final seconds. but I'm sure a lot of that is just me trying to make sense of something fundamentally nonsensical

this three-minute Tammy Wynette one is pretty good too

the algorithm seems to replicate the typical structure of a song by x artist, but it tends to go haywire because it doesn't accurately mark the boundaries between verse/chorus/verse/bridge/etc. it would probably be more successful if you could assign values to the proper sections. also a lot of the time it seems like the structure and rhythm of the song take precedence over the lyrics: the "singer" might omit words or syllables from a line, skip or repeat a line, or cobble together lines from words scattered at random throughout the text, but it generally sticks to the correct rhythm within a particular passage

sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 01:36 (two months ago) link

(sorry, Charley Pride)

sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 01:38 (two months ago) link

this fake prince kind of slaps https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787811884

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 01:39 (two months ago) link

same for this fake usher: https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787816813

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 01:49 (two months ago) link

i love the really broken ones

prefab sprout with lyrics from "give them the ride" by sizzla https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=807314719

nicki minaj "https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787516885

nine inch nails, which the model doesn't get right at all https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787966408

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2020 02:07 (two months ago) link

https://openai.com/blog/jukebox/

here's the post where they discuss how it works

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2020 02:08 (two months ago) link

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787778395

interesting new drone direction from the magnetic fields

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2020 02:09 (two months ago) link

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=807314872

the strokes covering sean kingston

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2020 02:13 (two months ago) link

this four-minute Charlie Pride mockup is pretty interesting on a structural level: about a third of the way through it goes from something resembling a chorus to a brief instrumental break, to a spoken-word bridge, to a choir-and-pedal-steel fakeout outro, to another verse, to yet another bombastic outro that fades out in the final seconds. but I'm sure a lot of that is just me trying to make sense of something fundamentally nonsensical

has kind of a song-poem vibe to it. i do notice that the longer the program runs the more degraded and muddled the output gets, assuming it doesn't just give up and start over like sometimes it does. i appreciate the decay on an aesthetic level, but if you're trying to make a four minute song that doesn't fall apart halfway through this program isn't the best way to go about it i don't think. probably why i'm more impressed with what they do with, say, the grateful dead or the fall, where "falling apart" is an intrinsic part of their ethos.

half of the stuff it tries to do with pink floyd is really bad but if i squint at it the right way i might just like this version of "free four" better than pink floyd's:

https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787634164

we get a weird aborted attempt at a sax solo that turns into guitar vamping, angry declamatory and almost certainly drunk roger waters circa "the wall"... it's kind of amazing how well the model can capture his outsize venom while mercifully avoiding his tendency to sing flat. and then it all goes sensitive and mellow into the outro repeat. when jukebox gets it wrong, jukebox gets it really wrong, but i wouldn't think it would be this easy to rewrite a floyd song into something i prefer to the "proper" version!

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:13 (two months ago) link

this is probably what people imagined when they heard linda perry was working with pink

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787736269

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:16 (two months ago) link

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787634095

wow i love madonna's new direction

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=807321700

stephen malkmus with beenie man lyrics ???

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2020 02:18 (two months ago) link

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787939195

"of montreal" ???

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2020 02:27 (two months ago) link

the new rihanna is super slinky (even if I swear I hear echoes of "SOS" and "Only Girl in the World" in it) https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787588894

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:28 (two months ago) link

I HATE THESE.

pplains, Friday, 1 May 2020 03:10 (two months ago) link

They sound like what I'll hear when I go into a coma and die.

pplains, Friday, 1 May 2020 03:11 (two months ago) link

https://youtu.be/3Z2vU8M6CYI?t=124

pplains, Friday, 1 May 2020 03:14 (two months ago) link

Talking Heads singing lyrics from an Avril Lavigne/Nicki Minaj song:
https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/807312211

MarkoP, Friday, 1 May 2020 04:20 (two months ago) link

this one feels like a real song, they put the scream in the logical place and everything https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787633465

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 05:28 (two months ago) link

that one has a bizarre groove in the verse

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2020 05:33 (two months ago) link

what if ariana grande came out in like 2010 https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787635205

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 05:47 (two months ago) link

in the early 2000s, the man who would become the weeknd collaborated with timbaland. the audio of these sessions has never been released.... until now https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787905712

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 06:18 (two months ago) link

This is the best thing that has happened this year, the bar wasn’t that high but still... pretty amazing.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 1 May 2020 07:18 (two months ago) link

that talking heads definitely impressed me, a sort of "born under punches" take on the song (which i'm not aware of because i am hugely ignorant of pop music). sounds like something byrne would actually do.

like i said upthread, i like all of the takes on "rebellious jukebox", but particularly the long one that opens up with a fucked up mangling of the bo diddley beat

the motorhead song sounds like every motorhead song. i guess that's not terribly surprising or impressive. same goes for the first 30 seconds of the agoraphobic nosebleed track.

i'm still a little unclear on what music they're training this model on. the zappa version of "stinkfoot" sounds like the "apostrophe" album in a blender (particularly, like, "excentrifugal forz" or something) but doesn't necessarily sound like his fifty billion other records. there's also a jam on roxy and elsewhere's "orange county lumber truck revisited" that i feel like could be passed off as an actual bootleg from the roxy band. "tom fowler's" bass on it is particularly impressive. i also really like the hall & oates song - well, you feed a hall and oates song in not surprising that the results are good!

i want to hear more of bill withers' version of "let it be"! the first 40 seconds of the new caruso recording is good too, the rest a bit of a mess. i want to hear that duet between caruso and elvis mad magazine promised me back in the '50s!

pplains i get what you're saying but in another sense this is sort of the appropriate soundtrack for the world we live in?

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 09:16 (two months ago) link

Absolutely. Another point against it!

That Elvis one of Come On Eileen.... The way the first part was incoherent speech patter followed by uplifting vocals by The Stamps.... I wasn't prepared to learn How Deep My Uncanny Valley was last night.

pplains, Friday, 1 May 2020 10:12 (two months ago) link

times like this I wish I was better at audacity because on the linkin park song, if you just added a second instance of chorus after the second verse, and repeated the opening guitar riff somewhere (outro and/or after the chorus(es), you could pass it off as an actual, non-AI-generated song

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 10:25 (two months ago) link

also I don't know what the weeknd songs were trained on (or why this thinks he was a one-hit wonder with "high for this") but whatever it is makes some plausible beats https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787902766

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 10:32 (two months ago) link

a lot of the lyrics they've done examples with are pretty weird choices, probably just chosen fairly randomly from their huge dataset (which was 1.2 million songs, half of those in english) so i'd expect there were a substantial enough number of songs for each of the artists they have 'styles' learned for

another weird thing is a huge number of the unseen lyrics examples are reggae lyrics, which seems to give very weird results from all the patois in the lyrics

ufo, Friday, 1 May 2020 10:38 (two months ago) link

http://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787982923

The only Lou Reed song is big and dumb in a perfect Lou Reed way.

Fetch the Bolt Thrower (PBKR), Friday, 1 May 2020 12:26 (two months ago) link

i was curious as to what they would do with can but it turns out they do have an attempt at "turtles have short legs" up there and it's awful

the yoko ono is much better, some great record scratching on that one

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=807320566

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 14:32 (two months ago) link

so they tried to do a bunch of different versions of "beat on the brat", none of them sound a goddamn thing like the ramones and most of them are fucking awful, i have to wonder what they trained it on. i guess the takeaway here is that most punk music doesn't sound anything like the ramones and is usually much worse.

here are the versions i found most interesting.

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787896025
https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787909846
https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787911817
https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787916911
https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787913575

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 14:51 (two months ago) link

you would think the ramones would be easier to emulate

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 15:26 (two months ago) link

yeah, surprised the hell out of me too. hate to go for the nerd chestnuts but it seems like xkcd 1425 applies here.

(yes, i had to google it, and while it's nice that they actually put a woman in their strip as a programmer, i admit to being a bit deflated to learn that the alt tags identify her as "Woman Programmer")

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 15:53 (two months ago) link

can someone point me to a description of how exactly this technology works and what it's doing, and also how it relates to the Vocal Synthesis thread which is obv using different tech and has clips that sound somewhat more realistic?

anyway, this is supposed to be blues in the style of Chris Rea - it isn't, but it's pretty great anyway

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787528894

Lee626, Friday, 1 May 2020 15:57 (two months ago) link

lee - what i think that ai does is just generates something that sounds like any given person's voice, speaking or singing, acapella. the only one of those videos that has a musical background is the sinatra one, and i'm not sure but it sounds like for that they generated an acapella vocal track and inserted it on top of a pre-existing background. what i don't know is if the pitches in the sinatra version were pre-defined. for all of the others, though, pitch isn't a consideration.

anyway, in jukebox, none of the pitches are predefined, the software doesn't perfectly know how to differentiate between "vocals" and all the different instruments, between speech and applause, and rather than strictly generating sounds in a particularly "voice" that match a predefined text - this is part of what it does - it also attempts to create novel musical content in a similar style to the work it's emulating. so the eight different versions of "industrial estate", none of them actually contain the melody (such as it is) of "industrial estate", but all of them sound like songs by the fall, they have some of the, uh, accidents of early Fall songs, recognizable drums and guitars and vocals and so forth.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 16:26 (two months ago) link

ok now I'm freaked the fuck out because I am pretty sure I am the only person alive who remembers the source track to this

https://jukebox.openai.com/?song=787991059

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 1 May 2020 16:29 (two months ago) link

Had no idea that AC/DC was a sludgy stoner band now

https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/802878241

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 May 2020 16:34 (two months ago) link

A demo from Johnny Cash's brief early-'80s flirtation with no wave.

https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/799894093

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 May 2020 16:47 (two months ago) link

Almost every Muppets track on there is an absolutely nightmarish audio collage designed to melt your brain

https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787623133

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 May 2020 16:55 (two months ago) link

Thx for the explanations

Lee626, Friday, 1 May 2020 16:58 (two months ago) link

I think the most amazing thing I learned from all of this is the fact that The Verve Pipe actually put out a Children's album in 2009:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Family_Album

MarkoP, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:07 (two months ago) link

And followed it up with a second one in 2013.

MarkoP, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:09 (two months ago) link

it talks about why it's bad to pass women back and forth, lest you be guilt stricken, sobbing.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:29 (two months ago) link

can't wait for Leyland Kirby to release 200 LPs of this shit

frogbs, Friday, 1 May 2020 17:32 (two months ago) link

Okay, I just died

https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787717459

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:01 (two months ago) link

Damnit, I can't believe I dropped my 'I Just Called to Say I Love You' cassingle in a puddle

https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787731991

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:41 (two months ago) link

what the FUCK at muppets Baby Shark

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:43 (two months ago) link

since i don't have kids or hang out with people who do, this is the only version of "baby shark" i have ever heard and i am going to believe for the rest of my life that "baby shark" sounds exactly like that

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:47 (two months ago) link

You're in an enviable position. I would recommend that you remain there.

lol, p sure the robot is smoking crack with some of these. Here's 'Nirvana'.

https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/799441342

Also p sure listening to these things is actively eroding the speech center of my brain.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 1 May 2020 18:48 (two months ago) link


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