fiona apple - fetch the bolt cutters (2020)

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this seems to be out in the world. thoughts from anyone who's heard it?

devvvine, Thursday, 16 April 2020 14:51 (seven months ago) link

just pressed play, already bowled over

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:16 (seven months ago) link

just on shameika and feeling likewise

devvvine, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:18 (seven months ago) link

wrapping up the last few tracks now. "relay," "newspaper," and "heavy balloon" have *really* grabbed me on first listen but honestly the whole thing is just overwhelming and fascinating and i can't wait to spend more time with it. i feel like it took me months if not years to really appreciate idler wheel so...

petey v, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:20 (seven months ago) link

god all of this percussion is so great

devvvine, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:23 (seven months ago) link

this album is metal as fuck, in that it sounds like it was screwed together at a workbench

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:31 (seven months ago) link

industrial music

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:36 (seven months ago) link

Assuming this will pop up on streaming tonight? I'm so anxious to hear this.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:38 (seven months ago) link

newspaper is industrial as hell

devvvine, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:39 (seven months ago) link

Does any of it sound like the first 2 albums?

billstevejim, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:41 (seven months ago) link

first track kinda did maybe? but it basically follows the idler wheel's stripped down approach into straight up percussion collage. it fucking rips

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:44 (seven months ago) link

+ ghost choirs

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:44 (seven months ago) link

what in the fuck is "newspaper" btw

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:44 (seven months ago) link

I'm sure it'll be cool but also I miss Jon Brion

billstevejim, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:45 (seven months ago) link

not sure i'll hear a better song in 2020 than cosmonauts

devvvine, Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:52 (seven months ago) link

album of the year, no one on her level

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:04 (seven months ago) link

it sounds like it was screwed together at a workbench

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson),Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:31 (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i can't think of any other records that sound both as compositionally crazy and rawly handcrafted as this does

devvvine, Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:26 (seven months ago) link

kick me under the table all you want
i won't shut up

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 16:50 (seven months ago) link

Can’t wait to hear this!

cajunsunday, Thursday, 16 April 2020 17:08 (seven months ago) link

this is averaging 4.41 from nearly 200 ratings on RYM, almost unprecedented. yeah obv it's mostly the headz and stans thus far but such a rating is still remarkable. you all seem to be quite excited as well. will have to listen

when I come out, can you introduce me as Jagger (imago), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:30 (seven months ago) link

From one listen -- almost a totally new sound. Beat music.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:35 (seven months ago) link

"relay" is so wild i love it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:37 (seven months ago) link

it's like this fully percussive thing and then bam, upright bass and guitar scratching, then voices hanging in silence

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:39 (seven months ago) link

about to download

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:40 (seven months ago) link

Need to wait for a headphone listen to fully judge. It'll hit streaming at midnight of course.

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 16 April 2020 19:42 (seven months ago) link

Any word of a physical release?

Cow_Art, Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:34 (seven months ago) link

imago, it’s probably because i had them on yesterday but cardiacs did come to mind a couple times while i was listening

devvvine, Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:46 (seven months ago) link

Dare I ask where y'all are hearing this

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:54 (seven months ago) link

it leaked, it'll be streaming in a few hours, ymmv

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:01 (seven months ago) link

damn this is really something

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:05 (seven months ago) link

exhausting, in a good way

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:13 (seven months ago) link

i'm in love with everything her voice does in "ladies"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:33 (seven months ago) link

Shameika said I had potential!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:36 (seven months ago) link

amazing that she’s still finding miraculous new textures with her voice

devvvine, Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:45 (seven months ago) link

Really excited for this!!!! Based on the reviews I have read so far it seems to be her less accessible out of all of her albums, which makes me even more amped up for it, since some of my favorite songs from her are the ones that hit you out of left field!

aguzman1990, Thursday, 16 April 2020 22:00 (seven months ago) link

the only field is left

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 April 2020 22:04 (seven months ago) link

holy fuck @ her vocal in "Holy Balloon."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2020 22:16 (seven months ago) link

oh my god "newspaper"

ufo, Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:18 (seven months ago) link

Wow this is fantastic. On first listen I reckon this could end up my favourite Fiona alongside When The Pawn.

The sound/approach reminds me a lot of early Veda Hille.

Tim F, Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:26 (seven months ago) link

It's my favorite Apple already

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:29 (seven months ago) link

finally, Fiona Apple songs I can put on a workout playlist

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:32 (seven months ago) link

this album is fucking great and i got to review it

maura, Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:48 (seven months ago) link

and it's a damn fine review

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:57 (seven months ago) link

damn this is good. thanks y'all for putting me on to this.

davey, Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:58 (seven months ago) link

thanks alfred :)

maura, Friday, 17 April 2020 00:04 (seven months ago) link

Feels like 2011 wasn't that long ago! So she has a rate of a new album every 6/8 years.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 17 April 2020 03:46 (seven months ago) link

holy shit this record

Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 April 2020 04:23 (seven months ago) link

10.

MarkoP, Friday, 17 April 2020 05:08 (seven months ago) link

The overall sound is interesting, sounds like the 21st century version of the lo-fi, diy album that doesn’t suck.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 17 April 2020 05:09 (seven months ago) link

okay lol

DJP, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:14 (six months ago) link

is this like interviewing voters who said they secretly voted for Trump

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:17 (six months ago) link

Mary Margaret more than Diamanda, to my ears, but it's a good point DJP

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:17 (six months ago) link

Yes, totally MMO'H!

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:21 (six months ago) link

Macy Gray's voice (which is pretty much just her timbre) seems to be an entirely different thing than the vocalizations on this album, which I think it's entirely fair to call experimental -- particularly given that they're compared to Meredith Monk and Yoko Ono, both of whom make experimental music.

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:22 (six months ago) link

I like this album, but it’s nowhere near as odd or challenging as its detractors and some of its most ardent supporters are claiming.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:34 (six months ago) link

would you reckon that "most people" have heard a song by al green?

yes

dip to dup (rob), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:34 (six months ago) link

I like this album, but it’s nowhere near as odd or challenging as its detractors and some of its most ardent supporters are claiming.

― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko)

In my case I'd substitute "but" with "and."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:36 (six months ago) link

Practically everybody has heard "Let's Stay Together" without necessarily seeking it out.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:42 (six months ago) link


the vocalizations on this album, which I think it's entirely fair to call experimental -- particularly given that they're compared to Meredith Monk and Yoko Ono, both of whom make experimental music.

al green also very comparable to yoko then.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:44 (six months ago) link

Anything can be compared to anything if you want to badly enough. Ch_ck E))y made a whole career out of it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:58 (six months ago) link

i'm just saying that if we're using the fifteen second performance at the end of the first track as a basis for labeling things "experimental", then we're going to need to redefine a lot of other things.

this reminds me of when the roots released phrenology and some people were writing off the entire album because of a thirty second bad brains homage and they didn't want to hear that on a hiphop record.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:19 (six months ago) link

The article itself called the 10 seconds at the beginning of the first track "experimental."

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:21 (six months ago) link

huh, sounds like joni -another person who has made mounds of stupidly popular records- to me.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:24 (six months ago) link

Not the vocals; the looped percussion sample before the piano comes in.

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:25 (six months ago) link

I said this upthread but this album is mixed and mastered really really really loud and I think that fact can attract and repel certain people in equal measure and find them using the word "experimental" as a proxy for "it is really loud"

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:53 (six months ago) link

yeah maybe it’s tin foil but seems like vocals are recorded/mixed differently others days )on pop/rock records esp) in a way I really can’t handle

brimstead, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 20:58 (six months ago) link

differently “these days” ugh

brimstead, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 20:59 (six months ago) link

xp -- there are a lot of people with idiosyncratic styles of singing, and a lot of people turned off by that.

See Alanis Morrissette's entire career for instance

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:54 (six months ago) link

see the dave matthews thread

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 11 May 2020 13:37 (six months ago) link

Is 2020 the year of the great DMB reassessment?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 11 May 2020 13:38 (six months ago) link

was 2018 just the preamble?

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 11 May 2020 13:47 (six months ago) link

"We've reassessed Dave Matthews and... he is still corny as fuck!"

DJP, Monday, 11 May 2020 13:48 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just listened to this---deluxe edition on youtube---for the first time, after a lot of things by and including Robert Wyatt, also Shelby Lynne's 2020 s/t---and I'm stuck by the compatibility: small group, bass, percussion, keyboards, usually piano, which is what seems like the main writing instrument, for a freewheeling yet instantly recognizable style---depplyed,in Apple's case, for challenging and sometimes(?) lavishing the object of her attentions with self-expression and "idiomatic to idiosyncratic but clear enough" results, as I said about Lynne's album---and maybe Apple's learned something from jazz, like the other two (upthread, she's quoted re Miriam Makeba, and I get some of that too, also the oblique strokes of xpost non-standardbearers Kate Bush and Joan Armatrading)(Tuneyards, or some of the same sonic sensibility, although Apple came first, recording-wise). Nevertheless, she's got her own agenda, own axes and axis, as always.
On first listen, her music seems like it's in good shape---still tensile, even robust in its lean way, despite and maybe because of some more allnighters now and then and again and again---a driving and driven quality in there, but her own kind of discipline, pace---not quite like anybody else, despite the comparisons (though I would not have been surprised if she hadn't lasted very long, but then I ditto re Jerry Lee and Little Richard). But---is it basically just more of the same, of a good ol' artist we're glad to get more of? If so, does it "basically" matter?? Considering that she, the musical persona and creator, *isn't* quite like anybody else, oh hell no: that nobody else, even from the small convergence I've mentioned, will quite do as substitute---but I wonder if I will listen to this, incl. in memory, as much as I do these other (more prolific) artists, or did listen to her previous albums---years ago, with all those years between them, and this one too: does that matter, momentum and impact-wise? As long as she seems to be more about holding the fort than breakthroughs--although who knows what kind of offstage breakthroughs it might have taken for her to get this far.

dow, Friday, 5 June 2020 21:57 (five months ago) link

the vocal arrangements on "newspaper" >>>>>>>>>>

Roz, Saturday, 13 June 2020 07:59 (five months ago) link

it definitely qualifies as some kind of breakthrough from the close attention it's received, irrespective of quality or innovation or consistency relative to her previous work. it's a really good album, I wish that was a good enough hook for critics who feel the need to exaggerate how unprecedented and avant garde it is

I used to get a lot of shit from indie types for liking her (and other mostly dissimilar women who were grouped together), I assume at least some of the hype from these circles is motivated by a need to redress years of that bullshit

some of the more negative reactions elsewhere are a bit "i'm the only person brave enough to admit beyonce sucks" which is tedious

The person who posts as mostly dylan on Twitter has this list of personnel on new Dylan album, which supposedly will incl. FA (and Blake Mills) as additional musicians, if it doesn't show up below:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EatdRdOWAAERL5L?format=jpg&name=medium

dow, Thursday, 18 June 2020 02:32 (five months ago) link

four weeks pass...

How is this holding up for everyone?

Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 16 July 2020 02:12 (four months ago) link

splendidly. just waiting for my vinyl.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 16 July 2020 02:58 (four months ago) link

It's still good, but I burned out quickly

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 16 July 2020 03:21 (four months ago) link

Still great but that Pitchfork review has aged extremely poorly, as was always likely.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 19 July 2020 10:36 (four months ago) link

I love Tidal which I suspect is her only good album

this has been the best year fuiud (rip van wanko), Sunday, 19 July 2020 11:47 (four months ago) link

I was never a fan previously, but I think this is strong and fresh and I love how confident she is with her powers. It’s also gone over very well with my 18yo daughter and consequently I like how few fucks Apple gives about image and knowing her place.

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:18 (four months ago) link

It’s still great

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 19 July 2020 20:24 (four months ago) link

got the vinyl! hooray! good thing my stereo's in storage!

d`oh

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:32 (three months ago) link

Tidal which I suspect is her only good album

― this has been the best year fuiud (rip van wanko), Sunday, July 19, 2020 4:47 AM

also ya, no

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 18:33 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I hadn't listened to this before today not because I didn't think it would be any good but *because* I knew it would good and was just waiting for the right day. And hey, it's really good!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 August 2020 20:10 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

after the dust has settled, "heavy balloon" is *easily* my favorite track on this.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:47 (two months ago) link

mine too

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 26 September 2020 03:45 (one month ago) link

It's difficult listening to this album; it reminds me of the first stage of quarantine, i.e. April.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 September 2020 09:39 (one month ago) link

I think it's better for that; a reminder that awesomeness can still exist.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 26 September 2020 11:28 (one month ago) link

Yep, same as you, Al

Vinnie, Saturday, 26 September 2020 14:18 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT4SZiEgJ_g

live versions!

ufo, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:22 (one month ago) link

Thanks. She’s an incredible live performer.

rattle, Sunday, 11 October 2020 21:41 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

An amazing interview/story with the real Shameika and her reunion with Fiona: https://pitchfork.com/features/article/fiona-apple-shameika-fetch-the-bolt-cutters-interview/

She turned out to be a rapper so of course they collab'd: https://open.spotify.com/track/5IelFDwkj5eJEnTSfwroxa?si=mlk-AyQHQuKY3R14anvdCg

And there's also a video now for "Shameika":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM63Tzv-uZg

Roz, Friday, 20 November 2020 05:59 (three days ago) link

Love that they were reunited by their New Yorker-reading 3rd-grade teacher.

jaymc, Friday, 20 November 2020 15:08 (three days ago) link

really glad this worked out in the best way possible

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 20 November 2020 16:37 (three days ago) link

(although a bit surprising that she was a public figure but nobody put the pieces together before now?)

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 20 November 2020 16:39 (three days ago) link

beautiful story, glad they were able to reconnect.

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 November 2020 16:47 (three days ago) link

This fixes all the issues I had with "Shameika"

DJP, Friday, 20 November 2020 20:28 (three days ago) link


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