Now I'm POLLING truth is a ruin: Mr Bungle's 1999 masterpiece "California"

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This never been polled?

― chap, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:21 (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Goodbye Sober Day would surely take it

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:26 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

(or Pink Cigarette...maybe you should poll it after all!)

― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:27 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Pink Cigarette 5
Goodbye Sober Day 4
Ars Moriendi 4
Retrovertigo 4
The Air Conditioned Nightmare 3
None Of Them Knew They Were Robots 1
Vanity Fair 1
Sweet Charity 1
Golem II: The Bionic Vapour Boy 0
The Holy Filament 0


chap, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:35 (four weeks ago) link

I'm torn between the two I mentioned, obviously, but I do need to return to the whole thing with fresh ears

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:48 (four weeks ago) link

Maybe 'Air-Conditioned Nightmare' or 'Pink Cigarette' based on memory but yeah, it's been a while.

Waifu-ed Around and Fell in Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:56 (four weeks ago) link

It could be any one for me, except maybe "None of Them Knew..." and "Vanity Fair" (which are both merely very good).

chap, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:56 (four weeks ago) link

simpler times.

always preferred the high energy post-zorn chop & change wild capers, so: syrupy lynchian freefall > rinky-dink polka getaway > massive slow crooner > metal kechak > the rest

ogmor, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 11:58 (four weeks ago) link

i've never heard this record and i probably should.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:02 (four weeks ago) link

yes

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:02 (four weeks ago) link

Yes. This thread got me wishing I could hear it again for the first time, with fresh ears. So I am jealous of the opportunity laid before you.

Waifu-ed Around and Fell in Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:03 (four weeks ago) link

And the coolest part about it (and I think I bought it the day it dropped?) was that I knew nothing going in other than it was a new Mr. Bungle album. The circumstances and my reaction (jaw-droppery) were much the same when I bought Kid A on day one a year later.

Waifu-ed Around and Fell in Love (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:07 (four weeks ago) link

Man, the second half of this absolutely kills the first half

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:08 (four weeks ago) link

Goodbye Sober Day it is, obv

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:08 (four weeks ago) link

do people not like "none of them knew"?

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:21 (four weeks ago) link

Voted Sweet Charity. I remember making my friend drive me to Best Buy on the day this came out. He was mostly into breakbeats and trance and had never heard them before, so I had told him they were a weird metal band. On the ride home in his Civic hatchback, he made me turn it off halfway through the opening track.

And I was baffled and confused as well! This was not the hellish sludge of Everyone I Went To High School With Is Dead or the turn-on-a-dime jazz metal of Carry Stress in the Jaw. I hadn't really heard any exotica or Pet Sounds-era Beach Boys so I didn't really have the reference points for context. But because it was a CD, I had to listen to it on my dad's stereo with big speakers in order to copy it to cassette for walkman purposes. And it just sounded huge and open in a way that nothing really had for me before. Those tympanis? Wow!

Anyway, I love the whole record, but that one really set the stage for me experiencing a lot of sounds I hadn't before. Goodbye Sober Day was my favorite for a long while because of the "chak chak chak" part. It thought that was sui generis Patton weirdness until a few years later I randomly picked up some Smithsonian Folkways CD that had kecak music on it.

☮️ (peace, man), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:22 (four weeks ago) link

I do, but it's one of the less perfect tracks. The middle section is a little flabby, it might've been more impactful if they'd shortened it a bit.

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chap, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:23 (four weeks ago) link

Sweet Charity is glorious, a great choice

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:24 (four weeks ago) link

Is Vanity Fair kinda transphobic, or am I missing something? There's obviously a religious aspect to the lyrics as well, but it seems to mostly be about plastic surgery and specifically castration.

☮️ (peace, man), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:30 (four weeks ago) link

I never got that from it. The lyrics are generally too inscrutable to draw any solid meaning from.

chap, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 13:34 (four weeks ago) link

Looking at the lyrics, it definitely uses a lot of imagery concerning surgery and cutting away and the nether regions, but I'm not sure that makes it automatically transphobic? I'm probably not the most qualified to judge that.

chap, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:03 (four weeks ago) link

ACN ftw

help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:06 (four weeks ago) link

Is Vanity Fair kinda transphobic, or am I missing something? There's obviously a religious aspect to the lyrics as well, but it seems to mostly be about plastic surgery and specifically castration.

― ☮️ (peace, man)

i don't read it as transphobic and never have (in contrast to say "dead goon" which, i don't know if it's _transphobic_ per se but i would say it's an unnecessarily _cruel_ song) but i speak only for myself on this

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 00:10 (four weeks ago) link

honestly "vanity fair" mostly makes me think of marshall herff applewhite

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 00:18 (four weeks ago) link

Goodbye Sober Day for me. The chanting is awesome.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 13:24 (four weeks ago) link

peace man, I had a similar discovery about the “Chaka Chakas” when watching a screening of I believe Baraka.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 13:25 (four weeks ago) link

Was just thinking about this record the other day. Need to re-listen before voting. I remember downloading the 30 second (Real Audio?) clips of three songs prior to the record coming out, putting them on a 3.5" disk, and bringing it to work to play for my Patton-loving coworker who didn't have the internet.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 13:32 (four weeks ago) link

syrupy lynchian freefall > rinky-dink polka getaway > massive slow crooner > metal kechak > the rest

^ vg. imo: massive slow crooner > syrupy lynchian freefall > rinky-dink polka getaway > metal kechak > the rest

so many great sections all over this record, and yet impossible not to vote for the massive slow crooner, high drama & wry; beautiful and crucial piano licks, that is Pink Cigarette

gaudio, Thursday, 12 March 2020 21:27 (three weeks ago) link

glad you voted for it as i felt bad not doing so

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 12 March 2020 21:32 (three weeks ago) link

now, obv that i'm feeling sorry for not voting for TACN, Retrovertigo or GSD

gaudio, Thursday, 12 March 2020 21:35 (three weeks ago) link

some of the chord changes on this album are incredible

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Thursday, 12 March 2020 21:42 (three weeks ago) link

it's not an album I listen to a lot even though it's right up my street. but pink cig is a jam

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Thursday, 12 March 2020 22:41 (three weeks ago) link

Ars Moriendi is the best track imo.

everything, Thursday, 12 March 2020 23:54 (three weeks ago) link

LOVE this album.

and "retrovertigo" is the best ballad ever so props for using it in the title.

the actual choice will be hard!

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 March 2020 01:55 (three weeks ago) link

Very consistent album but Ars Moriendi probably my favorite. The section starting at 2:24 is particularly great

Vinnie, Friday, 13 March 2020 02:01 (three weeks ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 00:01 (three weeks ago) link

Shit...just relistened. "Goodbye Sober Day" it is.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 14:22 (three weeks ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 00:01 (three weeks ago) link

both the songs with 0 are great

strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 01:13 (three weeks ago) link

I considered voting for "The Holy Filament"!

cwkiii, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 01:28 (three weeks ago) link

ah fuck, meant to listen and vote.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 02:00 (three weeks ago) link

i like this arrangement of "the holy filament":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdY9ZzQItO4

glad i voted for "none of them knew" though, y'all are crazy for sleeping on it

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 March 2020 02:18 (three weeks ago) link

I considered voting for "The Holy Filament"!

― cwkiii

So did I actually. Evocative of a far future crystaline machine god.

chap, Wednesday, 18 March 2020 09:57 (three weeks ago) link

So, this will definitely be delayed, and not as exciting as an album of all new material, but still pretty tantalising news.

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/mr-bungle-re-recording-first-demo-exclusive-studio-report-part-1

chap, Monday, 23 March 2020 23:43 (two weeks ago) link

Bungle bassist Trevor Dunn explains. "But the original demo was never fully realized. It was a DIY four-track tape recording fully self-produced by our naive and wandering minds whilst still learning how to play our instruments and understand songwriting at its most basic level. Not to mention I'm pretty sure we were all virgins at the time — high-strung, bored teenagers with only a limited number of options for where to direct our energy in an impoverished, isolated town."

so dunn is saying that they feel the need to re-record their first demo because... they've gotten laid since they recorded it?

guys, it's 2020, you don't need a reason, if you feel like re-recording your first demo go ahead and do it

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 00:42 (two weeks ago) link


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