Classics Or Duds: The Wedding Present

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The Classics Or Duds questions (a.m.a. readers might remember them fondly) submit a band to the musical tastemakers who form the Freaky Trigger audience. They respond with a couple of lines of criticism and then the damning gladiatorial thumbs-up or thumbs-down: be the band CLASSIC, or be they DUD? Votes are tallied (one-word votes don't count, ha! this is a forum after all) and the band is classified accordingly.

First of all, the Wedding Present. I just bought Bizarro on a drunken whim and enjoyed it much more than I thought I might. So were the Wedding Present maligned indie rock princes, or were they useless leaden whingers? Your call.

Tom, Saturday, 2 September 2000 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

A game of two halves (lost on away goals though)...

Some corking early singles but i didn't like George Best much.

Then Bizarro as you point out is ace (great article there, drunken purchases are always fun!). Bewitched is the total high point of their career i reckon, in fact all of side 2 is wonderful.

Some more brilliant singles (Corderoy, Dalliance). To my shame i've only just got Seamonsters so can't comment on that (bound to be ace though).

Err, where was i... Yeah, bit of a slippery slope after that i always thought. I didn't like any of the 7"s, but still, always fun to see them on ToTP.

In fact, i'm gagging for some Weddoes now so time to play that copy of Seamonsters (or napster some old singles...)

Overall then - CLASSIC! Hoorah for Gedge

Gruf, Saturday, 2 September 2000 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Early Weddoes pretty much defined indie for me, and I mean that in a good way. Seamonsters is the third best album Albini recorded and one of the best British rock records of the last decade. I even liked most of the 12 seven inches. In short: the standard critical consensus on them is just plain wrong. They were GRATE!

Richard Tunnicliffe, Sunday, 3 September 2000 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Classix nouveaux, mais oui. I always have time for them -- the two times I saw them live, they put on quite a good show, and their albums generally hold up well. _Bizarro_ itself I think is more a combination of really grand songs and more run of the mill, admittedly. _Seamonsters_ still remains the best through and through thing they ever did, but I'm obsessed enough to get things like the American-only compilation of singles and tracks and things from 1989 to 1991 and to buy the Girls at Our Best! compilation CD just because the Weddoes covered "Getting Nowhere Fast" on its first album.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 September 2000 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, yeah. so the boy Gedge knows how to string along the indie, erm, boys with his twanging guitars and his love-lorn lyrics, but the Weddoes a classic? I think not.

For every decent track there's half a dozen half-arsed efforts, and for every TUNE! there's an embarrassing studio out-take spoken bit to remind you this is a REAL band. For every Seamonsters there's a Mini; for every 'Fleshworld' there's a dodgy cover-version.

And what was the shit with not doing encores? Eh?

Final nail in the coffin has to be the dreary Cinerama single that's doing the rounds at the moment. The man has no shame so the Wedding Present must be classified as DUD.

alex thomson, Monday, 4 September 2000 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Regarding encores -- I *liked* the fact they didn't do encores! I wish more bands would follow their lead! Look, rare, very rare, instances aside, by the time most bands get to the end of their set, they've gone on too late to begin with, I'm tired of standing around a bunch of people yammering on about their useless lives instead of paying at least a cursory interest to the show and I need to get up early for work next day. The last thing I need is for a band to end, leave the stage for ten minutes for a drink/drugs/handjob/whatever and then come back for a preplanned utterly unspontaneous 'encore.' No! Do your set, do the job, take your bows and be done with it. And if you haven't played all your greatest numbers, then fine -- being able to leave your audience wanting more shows you've done the right thing!

So for this service to the music industry against the wretched folly that is the modern 'encore,' the Weddoes are once again classic, full stop. Viva!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 September 2000 00:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Classic indeed, though the last couple things didn't do much for me. As with any band that releases that much material, you're gonna get some crud, but that's no matter when you consider the sheer volume of excellence. As for Cinerama (which I've generally liked thus far), I'll take them over a bazillion Belle and Sebastians. Apples and oranges perhaps, but you know what I mean. Their cover of London is sublime. Cinerama, I mean.

I'm with Ned on the encores issue. Venues should have "no re-entry" policies with the stage as well. Do your thing and be done with it; even if it's a Saturday gig, I have to be up the next day for Meet the Press.

Andy, Sunday, 15 October 2000 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Now this one's a no-brainer. Dud, dud, dud. Hopeless. Why? For a start they released too much stuff and Gedge was clearly too much in love with the idea of making records to bother with the tiresome detail of you know, putting a decent band together, sounding good, or having something to say - all that irksome stuff. He always struck me as the kind of guy who kept press clippings of all their reviews and had a spare room with all 'the Weddoes' back catalogue carefully archived in dust-proof sleeves. Is he really like that? I don't know or care. The fact is that his records conjour up that image and I hate it. No sex, no spontaneity, no rock n'roll. And a tinny half-arsed guitar sound.... and no rhythm.

The words - oh my! If you're a sad inadequate, Gedge, then face up to it with some wit and perspective. Don't just whine. No-one gives a shit. The song titles - northern bluntness? new realism? Wonder where they got that idea eh? Just across the Pennines I reckon. They happened to be around at just the right time to pick up on the Smiths audience after their demise - that is, those Smiths fans who were too stupid to walk away from this crap. The worst gig I ever saw in my life was the Wedding Present/Flatmates/Close Lobsters at Kentish Town in about 1988. All three bands clueless as hell. Clunkers all.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 20 December 2000 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...
I agree Dr.C, they were mediocre shite. The cover for the album with that George Best photo was pretty good, way too beautiful package for such a crap band.

o.munoz, Friday, 19 January 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The Wedding Present in full flight rock better than the Stones. Classic.

Sandy Devoto, Sunday, 28 January 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
Ha! This must be one of the earliest ILM threads ever. "Classics or Duds"!

Anyway, revived because I would love to read Alex do an "In Praise of... Seamonsters".

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

er.. "read Alex do"? How about "read Alex on.." Also Bizarro would work.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 12 September 2003 22:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
I heard 'my favourite dress' this morning and I realise that my damning them as a big fat dud may be wrong. However the urge to investigate their oeuvre is no too strong at the moment.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Wow. So that's how "Classic or Dud" started. you tally up the votes and say who wins at the end. Going by that, and excluding the one word answers, the total comes out as

Classic : 6
Dud : 3
Spoiled ballots : 3

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 April 2004 10:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ballots closed yet then?

Bizarro, Seamonsters and Cinerama's Torino still making regular rounds in the CD player.
No sex no spontaneity? You must be mad.
No rock 'n' roll? Wel yes, but that's a good thing.

Gedge is a demi-God. CLASSIC.

Vasquesz, Thursday, 1 April 2004 10:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

But Vasquez they sometimes outrock the Stones! Hideous dull band, outdid the whole awful slacker indie rock of the American 90s w/their stupid "irony" and their ugly "record covers" and their "good taste". Grr. Ooh way to sneak in a covers record, guys, why not just do one?

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 1 April 2004 10:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Wow. So that's how "Classic or Dud" started. you tally up the votes and say who wins at the end. Going by that, and excluding the one word answers, the total comes out as.

Can I even up the score by adding 3 duds? Believe me, this band were even more boring in real life than they were on record - and that is saying something!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 1 April 2004 10:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I haven't added my CLASSIC yet!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 April 2004 10:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Terrible. Dr C's comments, above, echo my thoughts exactly. I remember when all the k3wl kidz got "george best", and they were all like "have you heard this yet!!!" terribly excited and stuff about it, and you heard it, and you were like HOLY FUCK THIS SUCKS. Worse thing abt them = the terrible "feel" w/which they played, like if you got a good drummer and said to him/her "here, play like a bastard on this rekkid, except you have to wear these heavy lead weights on your arms and legs whele you're doing it". they did not rock, and they were no phun either.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 1 April 2004 11:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I did not like George Best that much, nor Tommy.

But then they got it...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 1 April 2004 11:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Received wisdom has it that from Bizarro onward they started tuning up, amping up, and trying to sound not so purposefully indie (or purposely trying not to sound indie, I forget).

But even on George Best there's songs like "All this and more" which owe more to Hüsker Dü than The Smiths or Talulah Gosh.
(and the very Talulah "Everyone thinks he looks daft" is easily the best song of that whole schmindie/coy/shambolic/underachievers subgenre).

Vasquesz, Thursday, 1 April 2004 11:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

rah rock rah rock good good fucking band rah

andi, Thursday, 13 September 2007 05:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

classic, even before watusi.

andi, Thursday, 13 September 2007 05:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i like Watusi. have only heard a few other songs. i think i'll hit slsk and get 'my favorite dress' right now..

one time, Thursday, 13 September 2007 05:38 (eleven years ago) Permalink

so then, more classic than dud.

one time, Thursday, 13 September 2007 05:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

haha. wish i could recommend somewhere to go for ya, with this band, before watusi. . . in retrospect, they're actually kind of a difficult band. most of their songs and albums, you gotta hear a good few times before you can get anywhere with them. it's not that they're growers or whatever. it's just that, in retrospect, they made plain pop/rock music that had to be made during the late 80s/early 90s. i mean, it takes an appreciation of that idea to get into some of it, or. . . being v. deep into shambling junk.

andi, Thursday, 13 September 2007 05:44 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i just mean, they did what had to be done. if you call it rockism, then you're a rockist (it's not so black and white!).

i can't explain this band. you just gotta hear "everyone thinks he looks daft" and "carolyn" and yeah. piss ya.

andi, Thursday, 13 September 2007 05:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

gedge is god.

the wedding present RULE.

that is all.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 13 September 2007 08:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

classic, even before watusi.

Huh? even before Watusi? But uh Watusi is the first album they did that isn't that great! Everything they did PRE Watusi is the good stuff.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 13 September 2007 09:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

having lived in leeds during their glory days, i naturally rebelled against the grain, and hated them while my mates saw them live every other week.
je ne regrette rien

mark e, Thursday, 13 September 2007 13:12 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I can understand that, especially since you would have had the March Violets and Chumbawamba as an alternative ;)

everything, Thursday, 13 September 2007 14:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ha. luckily there was The Three Johns, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, and of course Age of Chance to help me through those dark dark days.

mark e, Thursday, 13 September 2007 14:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

them while my mates saw them live every other week

surely "while my mates took turn on bass and drums every other week"?

(actually, the early days were probably the most stable the line-up's ever been. hey ho.)

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Is the first ever use of Classic or Dud on ILX?

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I thought it was the Beatles one.

everything, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WEDDING PRESENT.

GEDGE IS GOD.

etc.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anyone else going to see one of the George Best anniversary gigs?

DavidM, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Watusi is a really good album.

DavidM, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:25 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Classics or Duds"

bit like seeing a picture of The Goons w/ Michael Bentine.

Mark G, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Anyone else going to see one of the George Best anniversary gigs?

i didn't think i'd be able to make the glasgow one, but now it looks like i might. need to actually make a decision.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

anyway: when did you drop the "s"?

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I never had a 's', it's always been Grout.

Mark G, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WEDDING PRESENT.

Not Orange Juice? Blue Boy, Felicity etc are the clear templates for the Weddoes first couple of years. "Tommy" sounds like some kind of grim version of OJ to me.

everything, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Josef K another obvious precursor.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:37 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Not to mention the Lost Pandas

Mark G, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

i wasn't being entirely serious.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(although gedge is god.)

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:48 (eleven years ago) Permalink

_Seamonsters_ still remains the best through and through thing they ever did, but I'm obsessed enough to get things like the American-only compilation of singles and tracks and things from 1989 to 1991

-- Ned Raggett, Monday, September 4, 2000 12:00 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Link

yes! the Singles 1989-1991 compilation, especially the first disc, is my favorite Weddoes to play these days, bar none, though i like everything up to (and including) Watusi pretty well.

stephen, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:06 (eleven years ago) Permalink

And lest us not forget : The only band to have 12 brand new hits in one year! Take that, Elvis Presley!

Mark G, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

For every Seamonsters there's a Mini; for every 'Fleshworld' there's a dodgy cover-version.

-- alex thomson, Monday, September 4, 2000 12:00 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Link

you can't be serious! a few of those Hit Parade singles were actually improvements on the originals, and the rest not bad at all -- and Mini is fucking great, too!

stephen, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(although gedge is god.)

I don't understand the human race sometimes

Tom D., Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:10 (eleven years ago) Permalink

xpost

"mini" is about the only thing of theirs i don't have. you're right about the covers, certainly: their version of "falling" is absolutely staggering. proto-isis post-metal wonder.

heheheh, though: alext and i listened to a lot of weddoes in the mid to late 1990s.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I think all of Mini is on the second singles comp (1995-1997 or something)

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

but I'm obsessed enough to get things like the American-only compilation of singles and tracks and things from 1989 to 1991

But you live in America! I was sad enough to go into a record store specifically to buy that when I was the US in '99.

Oh that was from 7 years ago. Fuck it anyway.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

If God is a grim northerner mumbling a monologue through clenched teeth about not getting shagged then please direct me to the Bathory section.

everything, Thursday, 13 September 2007 16:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

is there any album with a similar lyrical concept as Seamonsters?

could someone point me there? thanks.

Steve Shasta, Monday, 1 October 2007 23:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is there going to be a fancy 2-CD anniversary issue of _George Best_?

Mr. Odd, Monday, 1 October 2007 23:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

is there any album with a similar lyrical concept as Seamonsters?

elucidate slightly?

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 11:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

i had a 40-something tech teacher who loved them. which was weird 'cause most of those guys just listened to genesis or whatever.

max r, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 11:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Seamonsters has become my favourite Wedding Present album. back in the day i would've said Bizarro no question. i don't think i like Bizarro any less, but i have definitely come to appreciate Seamonsters more. there's a sinister edge to it that doesn't feature on their other records and doesn't really seem appropriate for the band, except that it works so well in practice.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 9 August 2008 06:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

is there any album with a similar lyrical concept as Seamonsters?

Not sure what this means exactly, but, probably because it was released around the same time and all that, I've always thought of Rid of Me being Seamonsters' sister album. Especially as ROM's title track and "Dalliance" pull the same slow-burn/explode trick. Both recorded by Steve Albini, of course, but even so, they seem to have been on the same page, sharing the same intensity.

DavidM, Saturday, 9 August 2008 07:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

ooooh i like that comparison, i definitely see the resemblance. hadn't thought of that before!

stephen, Saturday, 9 August 2008 16:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Damnit why didn't someone TELL me they'd covered Gang of Four's "I Found That Essence Rare"??? Why didn't someone tell me???

It's hrd bein a man, livn' in a garbage pai (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 27 October 2008 04:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

Love to see Ewing's explanatory thread start.

Dr C!!

Now this one's a no-brainer. Dud, dud, dud. Hopeless. Why? For a start they released too much stuff and Gedge was clearly too much in love with the idea of making records to bother with the tiresome detail of you know, putting a decent band together, sounding good, or having something to say - all that irksome stuff. He always struck me as the kind of guy who kept press clippings of all their reviews and had a spare room with all 'the Weddoes' back catalogue carefully archived in dust-proof sleeves. Is he really like that? I don't know or care. The fact is that his records conjour up that image and I hate it. No sex, no spontaneity, no rock n'roll. And a tinny half-arsed guitar sound.... and no rhythm.

The words - oh my! If you're a sad inadequate, Gedge, then face up to it with some wit and perspective. Don't just whine. No-one gives a shit. The song titles - northern bluntness? new realism? Wonder where they got that idea eh? Just across the Pennines I reckon. They happened to be around at just the right time to pick up on the Smiths audience after their demise - that is, those Smiths fans who were too stupid to walk away from this crap. The worst gig I ever saw in my life was the Wedding Present/Flatmates/Close Lobsters at Kentish Town in about 1988. All three bands clueless as hell. Clunkers all.
― Dr. C, Wednesday, 20 December 2000

You're a great man, Dr C !!!

the pinefox, Monday, 27 October 2008 09:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

And yet, we went to see them just after they'd done their "12 hits in one year" singles box set / club etc.. and they were great.

They came on just as we were discussing their hits total, when my g/f says "They have to start with "Kennedy" though.

Immediately: "dangdangdangd'd'd'dangdangdangd'd'd'CHANGGGGGLost yr love of life?..."

Best start to a gig ever..

Mark G, Monday, 27 October 2008 10:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

I am not convinced that this band ever had any hits.

the pinefox, Monday, 27 October 2008 11:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

i am not convinced by anyone who dismisses this band out of hand.

remorseful prober (grimly fiendish), Monday, 27 October 2008 13:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Now this one's a no-brainer. Dud, dud, dud. Hopeless. Why? For a start they released too much stuff and Gedge was clearly too much in love with the idea of making records to bother with the tiresome detail of you know, putting a decent band together, sounding good, or having something to say - all that irksome stuff. He always struck me as the kind of guy who kept press clippings of all their reviews and had a spare room with all 'the Weddoes' back catalogue carefully archived in dust-proof sleeves. Is he really like that? I don't know or care. The fact is that his records conjour up that image and I hate it. No sex, no spontaneity, no rock n'roll. And a tinny half-arsed guitar sound.... and no rhythm.

The words - oh my! If you're a sad inadequate, Gedge, then face up to it with some wit and perspective. Don't just whine. No-one gives a shit. The song titles - northern bluntness? new realism? Wonder where they got that idea eh? Just across the Pennines I reckon. They happened to be around at just the right time to pick up on the Smiths audience after their demise - that is, those Smiths fans who were too stupid to walk away from this crap. The worst gig I ever saw in my life was the Wedding Present/Flatmates/Close Lobsters at Kentish Town in about 1988. All three bands clueless as hell. Clunkers all.
― Dr. C, Wednesday, 20 December 2000

the pinefox, Monday, 27 October 2008 13:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

i'm sorry, i genuinely have no idea what point you're trying to prove, other than that you know nothing about this band and have no original thoughts about them. i know what dr c thinks; i also think it's odd to base a dismissal of a band on what they were doing 20 years ago, but hey.

remorseful prober (grimly fiendish), Monday, 27 October 2008 23:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Just got home from seeing them play in Vienna..

First time i'd seem them in 15 years and wasn't disppointed.

Played a few handful of songs from the (disappointing) new album, and a whole load of classics from their back catalogue - even playing their cover version of "Going nowhere fast".

The new band sounded every bit as good as I remember the 'old' one.

And they still don't play encores which confused quite a lot of the audience...

Great stuff!

Jack Battery-Pack, Sunday, 23 November 2008 22:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

The Peel Session version of "Take Me I'm Yours" gives me chills all over and puts a tear in my eye.

Coffee Table LP's Never Breathe! (Bimble), Sunday, 15 February 2009 13:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Absolutely classic.

I have not always listened to the Wedding Present all that intensely or often, but each time I have, I've enjoyed it greatly.

A dear friend of mine is their bassist.

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs060.snc3/14766_200805611934_10748026934_3224507_3610603_n.jpg

Go see them this month. Here's the schedule.

April
1 : San Diego CA, USA - Casbah
2 : Los Angeles CA, USA - Troubadour
5 : Austin TX, USA - Emo's
7 : Atlanta GA - Earl with The Jet Age
9 : Washington DC, USA - Black Cat with The Jet Age
10 : Hoboken NJ, USA - Maxwell's with The Jet Age
11 : New York City NY, USA - Bowery Ballroom
12 : Cambridge MA, USA - Middle East Downstairs
14 : Toronto ON, Canada - Horseshoe Tavern
15 : Pontiac MI, USA - The Pike Room at The Crofoot
16 : Chicago IL, USA - Double Door
17 : Minneapolis MN, USA - 400 Bar
20 : Vancouver BC, Canada - To be confirmed
21 : Seattle WA, USA - Crocodile
22 : Portland OR, USA - Doug Fir Lounge
24 : San Francisco CA, USA - Independent

I don't need a bonghit. (ctrl-s), Monday, 5 April 2010 02:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

This tour is the Bizarro tour eh?

van smack, Monday, 5 April 2010 02:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yup. I'll be there in Cambridge with a mess o' my mates. Though I'm off their current incarnation they were absolutely tops from 86-95 or so.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 5 April 2010 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

love seamonsters so much

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 31 January 2011 04:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

like ian curtis fronting pavement

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 31 January 2011 05:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

or sunny day real estate even

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 31 January 2011 05:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

...

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Monday, 31 January 2011 05:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh shut up

HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 31 January 2011 05:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

love seamonsters so much

shoulda stopped here imo, great record though!

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

https://www.discogs.com/The-Wedding-Present-George-Best-30/release/10420257

.. Re-recording your debut album w/Steve Albini?

Mark G, Monday, 31 July 2017 00:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Huh.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 July 2017 03:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Cheap Trick did this, dunno what I think abut the Weddoes doing it, let alone with a different lineup.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 July 2017 03:48 (one year ago) Permalink

According to DG, it was re-recorded in 2008 but has only now got a proper mixdown:

'George Best', re-recorded by Steve Albini in 2008. It's about I got this baby mixed. pic.twitter.com/XhwxGnFxK4

— David Gedge (@weddingpresent) January 26, 2014

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 31 July 2017 05:26 (one year ago) Permalink

The press release says they re-recorded it im some spare studio time at the end of a session with Albini for 'El Rey', they were pretty well drilled on it after the 20th anniversary shows and here we are getting a release fornthe 30th.

michaellambert, Monday, 31 July 2017 06:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Can't say I've much interest in hearing this, and George Best is one of my favourite albums. Seems a bit pointless. Has any band done this and it's been better than the original? I can only think of a couple of examples of this:

Suicidal Tendencies - Still Cyco After All These Years (remake of first album plus a few extra songs from later albums)
UK Subs - Timewarp (not a whole album remake but basically a rerecording of a Best Of)

Didn't Axl Rose do something like this to avoid paying someone royalties?

Colonel Poo, Monday, 31 July 2017 09:26 (one year ago) Permalink

Gang Of Four did this when they released "Return The Gift", though I think that was strictly an effort to make some income. It was worth hearing though in no way better than the originals.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 31 July 2017 11:25 (one year ago) Permalink

though I think that was strictly an effort to make some income

Is there ever any reason other than money?

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Monday, 31 July 2017 11:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Sure there is, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 31 July 2017 14:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Love this album and I'm sort of ok with this and curious to hear it. I'd rather they had done it at Toe Rag studios with Liam Watson but you can't have everything.

everything, Monday, 31 July 2017 19:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Not even when you are everything.

At Ardent with Richard Dashut would have been my pick.

dorsalstop, Monday, 31 July 2017 20:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe Moby could've done it.

everything, Monday, 31 July 2017 20:12 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

they/he are the (george) best

and alex in nyc should listen to torino

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 December 2017 04:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

Torino might be the best album of them all

PaulTMA, Sunday, 24 December 2017 11:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

Torino thirded.

dorsalstop, Sunday, 24 December 2017 12:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yup, only Cinerama with staying power.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 24 December 2017 14:18 (nine months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

I know very little about this band, but their song “Dalliance” just came up on YouTube... OMG, such a good song!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:52 (two months ago) Permalink

They need a definitive compilation really bad

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 July 2018 14:56 (two months ago) Permalink

if you like dalliance you will probably like seamonsters in total. an album more or less on par with loveless and bandwagonesque.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 4 July 2018 15:05 (two months ago) Permalink

They need a definitive compilation really bad

True. In the meantime, there's "Ye Ye: The Best Of The RCA Years" which is a good albeit brief sampler.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 5 July 2018 00:09 (two months ago) Permalink

There was a bunch of rerelease sets a few years ago of each album, with two extra discs of bsides and live stuff, plus a dvd of vids, TV appearancesand a interview.

I have most of them, Watusi is underrated and excellent.

Can I find Bizarro? Can I trousers.

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2018 06:58 (two months ago) Permalink

I was listening to Seamonsters in high school and my mom came in and listened for a bit and said: "They should let the singer stand closer to the microphone."

Lie Bot (orifex), Friday, 6 July 2018 22:45 (two months ago) Permalink


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