ILM Ballot Polls for 2020 and beyond -- the ordering, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

looking at that spreadsheet I have never used the same number twice...so the number would keep going down for each placement: 25, 24, 23, 22, 21 20...

I will add you to the list

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Thanks, Bee OK. So you're saying you effectively give a #1 a "bonus" of 10 extra points, yes? Do you do that for the Albums too?

No, sorry when I say add 10 points I mean the overall scoring. So adding 10 means that the original starts at 40 points but I have always started at 50 points and then worked my way down.

50, 36, 33, 30, 28, 26, 25, 24...

So number one does get 4 more points than number two which gets 3 more points than number three...

Albums too but the simple 5, 4, 3 scoring sort of works better for Albums.

<<squints at explanation. raises eyebrow. closes browser.>>

Taking Sides

50, 46, 43, 40, 38, 36, 35, 34

vs

50, 36, 33, 30, 28, 26, 25, 24

I've always used the top one. I think it's more important to check ballots for spelling and punctuation, e.g. in this ballot make sure "Jesus, Etc." and "Jesus Etc" are counted together in the pivot table

lol, no wonder there is some confusion:

I meant: 50, 46, 43, 40, 38, 36, 35, 34

Going too fast and doing other things...

thanks everyone!

I always used a linear scale, which is what the EOY polls use, so for poll of ballot size 40, #1 gets 80 points, #2 gets 78 points, and so on, all the way down to #40 gets 2 points

There's a pivot table in the spreadsheet? No wonder I haven't been able to figure out how it works!

At some point you've got to sort the song list alphabetically so you can easily spot typos and such. Or paste the song list in an empty tab and then "remove doubles"--if any title appears twice, one of them has a typo.

I'm going to add The Police to my queue.

I'm going to do Super Furry Animals in the next six months (the timing feels right), just a heads up.

looking forward to SFA

Not necessarily volunteering (I'm no good with images or math), but just wanna throw this one out there to gauge interest: Poppy Bush Interzone singles.

Please add me to the list to run a Punk tracks poll 74-84. With war in europe, stagflation crisis winter coming, and general malaise, seems like the right time.

Noted, I'm not going to update the list anytime soon but I think this can go after Wilco if so inclined.

His POLL in life was to be an echo - ILM Arist Poll #115 - WILCO | JEFF TWEEDY - Results Thread

Going to proceed with Punk tracks poll tomorrow unless someone with more seniority in requesting a poll would like to step in this weekend.

Punk tracks poll to roll out first week of Nov.

https://i.imgur.com/NsUmpOR.jpg

Please Poll Me: ILM ballot poll #116 punk tracks1975-1984 LOBBYING AND DISCUSSION!!

Since that one is delayed is anyone willing to run a poll or even taking over that poll? I was thinking about running it but that would be a disservice as my knowledge in Punk has too many gaps.

i would totally run a sparklehorse poll right now if there is enough interest

i've got sparklehorse fever, and the only cure is to systematically go through the entire discography repeated times and administer a ballot poll

That's a poll for which I could only really submit a ballot from one record (Vividixie) but would appreciate the rollout and enforced poll-result listening.

yeah, i feel confident that you'd love the rest! i started with It's a Wonderful Life in high school, and only really listened to Viva closely for the first time a few weeks ago! since then i have listened to it many times. it rules.

one intriguing thing about a Sparklehorse ballot poll is that i really have no clue what the consensus is on either the album or which songs are the ones that everyone knows. the first couple albums have songs that sound like they should have been hits during a time when "alternative music" was still a thing. but then i'm youtubing and i see them making their "american television debut" on craig kilbourn, playing "it's a wonderful life", and you can just see that some of his most pop-friendly hits had been slept on

one reason NOT to do a Sparkhorse poll, though: maybe there just isn't enough. 4 albums (Viva, Good Morning Spider, It's a Wonderful Life, Dreamt for Light Years in the Belly of a Mountain), In the Fishtank with Fennesz, and Dark Night of the Soul (which I need to listen to more, it's hard to categorize). Some singles, EPs. But maybe that's not enough.

you could add the two dancing hoods albums to a sparklehorse poll.

yeah...very diminishing marginal returns there, though, i think. i'm not a huge fan of what i've heard. they are definitely catchy and replacements like at some points, but i just finished watching the 1998 dutch documentary on youtube and he refers to them as "that pop band" or something like that and relays a story about how he boring he ended up finding that, how leaving that behind led to his first "good music"

yeah, they were a very different band. but they had their fans, and maybe there's a discovery or two still waiting to be found, or at least a connection to be made between his "that pop band" roots and what he went on to do? just a thought!

oh for sure! sorry, i didn't mean to seem like i was shutting it down. i would definitely include that, and if nothing else be interested in what everyone's favorite songs were from the pre-sparklehorse days! i'm still very much in learning mode and haven't listened to some stuff yet, so i'd be open to absolutely anything that involves linkous.

it's sad, because way back in the day, the way i learned about sparklehorse was through radiohead. the "wish you were here" collab. but the thing was, back then it was the audiogalaxy era for me, which meant lots of freely downloaded songs of unknown provenance and sometimes fakes. so when i heard "radiohead' doing wish you were here, with Linkous' voice, i immediately thought "false". now, of course, listening to it i hear that it's radiohead (or at least some of them?) playing instrumentally while linkous sings. to my warped radiohead-obsessed mind of the time, i could not fathom that thom yorke would let anyone else sing, other then himself. so when I heard heard Linkous' voice it just sounded like "fake-Thom" to me. good lord i was fucked up.

i think i am just going to post a top 15 on a sparklehorse thread and be done with it

FUCK IT

SUSPENDED
Please Poll Me: ILM ballot poll #116 punk tracks1975-1984 LOBBYING AND DISCUSSION!!

Since that one is suspended is anyone willing to run a poll or even taking over that poll?

The reason for the bump is that I am really hoping ILM can do one more of these before the year is out. If no-one steps in I might go ahead and start something next week. It won't be the Super Furry Animals tho because of the time and effort I'm going to put into that one. I'm not willing to do that one quite yet. The other one I was thinking about running is The Jesus and Mary Chain but not really in the mood for it at the moment. I do have a back up plan if no-one steps up here in the next few days.

I'm going to add The National to this list. I think a deep dive for this band will be fascinating. I'm not nearly up to date with them but seeing them live for only about an hour was great. It was a rooting festival type of thing with many bands. This poll The National (Poll) is what convinced me to add them. It won't be for years tho and if anyone wants to take the baton for me that would be fine too.

I will run Super Furry Animals in 2023, I won't delay that one much further.

xp you can (seriously) mark me down for 'mr. november' at number one and zeros the rest of the way

When the World is Running Down, You Make the POLL of What's Still Around – ILM Artist Poll #116 – THE POLICE - (Voting is open until Sunday, Nov 27)

I'd run a Taylor Swift poll if someone else handles images.

don't we do one of those every year?

Albums, probably, but I don't think we've ever done a proper, discography-spanning tracks poll.

lol rob

xxp no that's the CRJ poll.

IT'S A JOKE DONT FLAG ME

I made poll images in PowerPoint, thanks whoever it was itt that recommended that, it was really a lot easier than I anticipated.

yep, that's how I made the Wilco poll images. Obviously doesn't do anything close to what the graphic design programs can do but it's surprisingly serviceable!

i would do a black sabbath poll

i am mainlining sabbath regardless of whether or not anyone replies

In.

Yes

sweet! well, i'm up for doing it whenever there's an opening in the schedule

in the schedule of ballot polls, i mean. my personal schedule is looking pretty good

You can go after the Police if you like. Hard to believe ILM hasn't done Sabbath yet.