ILM Ballot Polls for 2020 and beyond -- the ordering, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

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Original (June 2011 - December 2013): Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

Part two (January 2014 - December 2019): ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

ILM Ballot Polls: where to find the results threads

Precursors to the numbered list:

A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished)
B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)
C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. The Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. The Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)
10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)
12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
13. The Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)
16. The Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)
17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)
23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)
24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)
25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)
26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)
27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)
31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)
32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)
33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)
34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)
36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)
37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)
37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)
38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)
39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)
40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)
41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)
42. Stax - seandalai (finished)
43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)
44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)
45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)
45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (finished)
47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez (finished)
48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h (finished)
49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom (finished)
50. Steely Dan - Bee OK (finished)
51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra (finished)
52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain (finished)
53. Outkast - Spottie (finished)
54. Autechre - Leee (finished)
55. Brian Eno - WmC (finished)
56. Radiohead - nate woolls (finished)
57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom (finished)
58. "Epics" - Leee (finished)
59. XTC - Οὖτις (finished)
60. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK (finished)
61. Yo La Tengo - Van Horn Street/clemenza (finished)
62. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt (finished)
63. Ramones - tipsy mothra (finished)
64. Italo - daavid (finished)
65. P-Funk - Οὖτις (finished)
66. Metallica - pplains (finished)
67. Spoon - Bee OK (finished)
68. Queen - charlie h (finished)
69. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds (finished)
69B. Pixies - Johnny Fever (finished)
70. Extreme Metal - Viceroy (finished)
71. Tom Petty - rogermexico. (finished)
72. The Smiths - nate woolls (finished)
73. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK (finished)
74. Stereolab - Moka (finished)
75. Van Halen - Johnny Fever (finished)
76. Devo - soref (finished)
77. Can - Z S Moka (finished)
78. Oasis - Bee OK (finished)
79. George Michael - Ismael Klata (finished)
80. The Stooges/Iggy Pop - Moka (finished)
81. Leonard Cohen - Simon H. (finished)
82. Talking Heads - Bee OK (finished)
83. Blondie - nate woolls (finished)
84. Van Morrison - kornrulez6969 (finished)
85. Wu-Tang Clan - Spottie (finished)
86. Joy Division – Bee OK (finished)
87. The Smashing Pumpkins - ufo (finished)
88. Björk – Eric H (finished)
89. Beatles solo careers - Οὖτις (finished)
90. Elvis Presley - Euler and Moka (images) - (finished)
91. Tori Amos - ufo (finished)
92. They Might Be Giants - sic (finished)
93. The B-52's - Bee OK/Karl Malone (finished)
94. Belle and Sebastian - Nag! Nag! Nag! (finished)
95. Songs Under 2 Minutes - Karl Malone (finished)
96. The Burt Bacharach songbook – WmC (finished)
97. Beck – Bee OK (finished)
98. The Go-Betweens - Nag! Nag! Nag! (finished)
99. Cat Power – Leee (finished)

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Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080
Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
Jimi Hendrix - C. Grisso/McCain
Genesis + solo - NickB
Dead C - Raymond Cummings
Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve
John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
Rush - Matt #2
Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
Billy Joel - Doctor Casino
Low - aldo
Nine Inch Nails - chap
REM - rogermexico.
Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK
Covers - kornrulez6969
New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee
No Wave - sarahell
DFA - Van Horn Street
Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080
Erykah Badu - Eric H.
Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie h
Herbie Hancock - crüt
Aphex Twin - Stevie D
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Bee OK
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - Spottie
Siouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRoo
AM Radio Gold - Jeff W
Eurovision - nxd
Steve Albini - nate woolls
Yellow Magic Orchestra - frogbs
Byrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969
Cardiacs + affiliated - imago
Tropicalia/MPB - Frederik B
Chic Organization - pollrunner needed for this one
French/Francophone - Van Horn Street
The Cars/Ric Ocasek - crüt
Tim Buckley - Naive Teen Idol
The Cramps - Moka
Bristol trip-hop - chap
Wire - kornrulez6969
jungle/drum 'n bass - Le Bateau Ivre
Suede - Bee OK
Robyn Hitchcock - campreverb
Power Ballads - rogermexico.
Grunge - Cosmic Slop
Artists poll - Dan Worsley
Kylie Minogue - BradNelson
Math-rock/Hardcore/Post-Hardcore poll - Odysseus
Phil Spector - crüt
Glen Campbell - ― Spottie
ZZ Top - rogermexico.
QOTSA/Desert Sessions - rogermexico.
T Rex - Naive Teen Idol
Bardo Pond – Leee
Super Furry Animals – poll runner needed for this one
Nu Metal Trax – Mordy
Linda Ronstadt – crüt
New Wave (just can’t get enough) Albums and Singles - Bee OK
easy listening/adult contemporary – dyl
Serge Gainsbourg - Camaraderie at Arms Length
Galaxie 500/Luna - Bee OK

*added since last update:

Girl Groups singles poll - Dan Worsley
Phil Elverum - devvvine
Wussy - clemenza
Broadcast - Nag! Nag! Nag!
The Replacements - Nag! Nag! Nag!

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:08 (two years ago) link

Thought it was time for a new thread considering we are in a new decade and the other thread is quite long. We are also right at 100, which is unbelievable. I pretty much just kept the same name of the thread too. I also put in a few modifications and it does look a bit better.

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:08 (two years ago) link

BTW in the "Where to find the results thread" if you click on mookieproof links you will find each poll's full results list, where they exist and where he could find them.

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:12 (two years ago) link

had been thinking an Underworld poll would be good but i'm not sure at the moment when i'll have time to do a poll this year

i guess you can put me down for it but if someone else happens to have time before me and wants to run an Underworld poll they're welcome to run it instead

would also love to see that SFA poll happen at some point now that Guerilla is finally on NA spotify?

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:40 (two years ago) link

I'd run an Underworld poll, we'd do well to make it happen before the next Drift series starts up and produces another 12 hours of tracks and jams to wrestle with

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 02:09 (two years ago) link

lol i can't believe it's been 6 years since i signed up to do that herbie hancock poll

uncrut gems (crüt), Friday, 7 February 2020 02:16 (two years ago) link

I think Tori Amos was the last one of these I voted in, and that feels like five years ago.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 February 2020 02:38 (two years ago) link

glad to see this thread! thanks, Bee OK.

i'm gonna take my name off of the Billy Joel poll. i ran the track-by-track listening thread with the vague idea that we COULD roll from that into a poll or something, but in practice that thread had such a great turnout and discussion that i'm not sure we'd really gain much by doing a poll, even if everyone could muster it. the joy of ballot polls is in the discussion more than the ranking, and we had one hell of a discussion there. if someone else wants to run it i'd totally vote, though!

Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 February 2020 02:40 (two years ago) link

Is there a thread like this for all the various movie polls? I know the detritus thread each year has links to all the other ones, but I meant the genre and decade polls.

clemenza, Friday, 7 February 2020 03:24 (two years ago) link

I realize the movie polls don't follow back-to-back like the artist ones do, but it would be nice if there were some place where we could float ideas about movie polls and gauge interest (and let folks know they're going on). There's one I've been thinking about for a while, and it will be some time before I can even entertain the idea, but I wouldn't currently know how I would even go about seeing if people would be into it.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 February 2020 03:32 (two years ago) link

Great idea--start a thread. Anyone with an idea can test it out there--hopefully limited to whether there's interest or not, saving the this-belongs-no-it-doesn't arguments for the actual poll. I think a cumulative results thread would be useful too; some of those movie threads, like the comedy and horror, are really hard to load when you want to check something.

clemenza, Friday, 7 February 2020 03:40 (two years ago) link

Pitch your ideas for possible film polls here

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 February 2020 03:46 (two years ago) link

"New Rose" shuffled up on my phone today and after I was through shouting along I thought a punk rock tracks poll would be fun. Limit it to the period 1974 (Ramones formation) to 1984 (Zen Arcade/Let It Be/Double Nickels).

Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 7 February 2020 04:10 (two years ago) link

Would definitely participate in classic punk poll.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 February 2020 04:14 (two years ago) link

Can't wait for the "is this punk or is this new wave?" arguing.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 February 2020 04:14 (two years ago) link

yes lol

Dan S, Friday, 7 February 2020 04:16 (two years ago) link

We definitely need an Underworld poll

groovypanda, Friday, 7 February 2020 07:57 (two years ago) link

one thing with the underworld poll though would be figuring out where to draw the line with remixes etc., like "dark train" should probably be counted as a separate track to "dark & long" but does that work for all of them, and how do you handle something like "rez/cowgirl"?

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 08:05 (two years ago) link

if it were me, I'd exclude outside remixes, and combine votes for different versions / recordings / mixes / arrangements, but note votes for specific versions in the results. and probably make an eligibility chart so folks don't split votes from themselves.

Rez and Cowgirl I'd be inclined to list separately since they were such distinct recordings, made over a year apart, but roll together in results if voters demand.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 08:33 (two years ago) link

i mean the "rez/cowgirl" mashup that's been a live staple and was on everything, everything. obviously you list "rez" and "cowgirl" separately but then do you allow votes for "rez/cowgirl" as a separate entity or not or combine the votes in some way?

i agree about excluding outside remixes and combining votes for the cases that are more directly alternate versions/recordings/mixes/arrangements of the same track, the edge case is the remixes they did themselves that are basically entirely separate works to the original (most prominently "dark train" but i think there's a few others out there too)

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 09:08 (two years ago) link

yeah there are five or so fully different Dark & Long "versions" that are sometimes listed as discrete songs / sometimes versions, and most of the dubno singles, plus Pearl's Girl and Born Slippy, have the same casual approach to taxonomy. The Born Slippys are as different as Dark Train from Dark & Long, while the Dirty x-s generally sound like separate recordings of the same song, and so do some of the other Darks. And some of the versions even have different mixes!

The band labelled them all as Song (Version) on the super-deluxe reissues, which is probably a tip worth taking.

C21st Underworld instead seemed to do all the rethinking and reworking off-record, playing some things live for years but waiting until they decided on a definitive version to release one (eg You Do Scribble). Drift finally went back to that early-'90s direction, what with the Necks and no-Necks Appleshines, remixing and re-arranging and re-editing things between single and EP and album, the different Soniamodes and Brilliants...

seeing how the voters prefer to think of Rez and Cowgirl is part of the fun!

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 09:56 (two years ago) link

i think one of the other dark & long "remixes" is actually a remix of one of the other dubnobass tracks even

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:14 (two years ago) link

See also Rowla and Cherry Pie

nashwan, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:40 (two years ago) link

I'd still like to do a jungle/dnb poll, as listed above. Not sure if there's enough interest in it though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:50 (two years ago) link

I'd follow it, definitely, but I probs wouldn't be able to contribute a whole bunch

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 7 February 2020 10:53 (two years ago) link

I'd join in a d&b poll for sure.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 February 2020 10:54 (two years ago) link

I feel like there was one a few years back. Maybe that was 90s Dance in general. Definitely one I'm more likely to participate in or even help run.

nashwan, Friday, 7 February 2020 11:54 (two years ago) link

Prefab Sprout poll, thanks.

triggercut, Friday, 7 February 2020 12:22 (two years ago) link

^ YES. Do it! If only so I can be annoyingly "Swoon is *so* underrated, geez" and stuff.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 7 February 2020 12:57 (two years ago) link

i think one of the other dark & long "remixes" is actually a remix of one of the other dubnobass tracks even

― ufo, Friday, February 7, 2020 9:14 PM (thirty minutes ago)

See also Rowla and Cherry Pie

― nashwan, Friday, February 7, 2020 9:40 PM (four minutes ago)

my lineball instinct was to separate them like Rez and Cowgirl, but they really are exactly the same piece in different arrangements (and also reminiscent of when they'd do a Soft Mix and a Hard Mix on work-for-hire remix gigs around this time). I guess the only conclusion is not to do an Underworld poll

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:45 (two years ago) link

Just checked: counting the album and 7" version, I have 1 hour 55 minutes and 16 seconds of Dark whatevers. Let's just make them the ballot poll.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:55 (two years ago) link

Prefab Sprout poll, thanks.

― triggercut, Friday, February 7, 2020 7:22 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes please

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:58 (two years ago) link

would also love to see that SFA poll happen at some point now that Guerilla is finally on NA spotify?

put me down as poll runner for super furry animals, i'm not sure what interest there is (probably only around 5 current posters on the main thread), but they can't be pollrunnerless

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:48 (two years ago) link

staggerlee hasn't posted since 2014. If no one objects (or if they just changed usernames), I'd like to step up for the Newpies poll.

Also: I was thinking about doing the Hendrix poll this September, in recognition of the 50th (not 51st) anniversary of his passing.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:57 (two years ago) link

we haven't done Hendrix yet...?

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:01 (two years ago) link

We didn't, but your mom did!

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:06 (two years ago) link

I'll show myself out...

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:06 (two years ago) link

I was kind of musing about a PSYCHEDELIC ROCK poll but have the feeling that's too hairy a beast to properly corral.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:09 (two years ago) link

Also, post-rock can/should be its own poll distinct from dream pop/shoegaze.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:12 (two years ago) link

As far as timing is concerned, keep in mind that the 2019 metal poll is still underway, so maybe wait until it's over? Otherwise these all sound like great ideas.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:13 (two years ago) link

would love a prefab sprout poll

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 21:42 (two years ago) link

thanks for taking over SFA for me wtev. i got mad that there weren't on Spotify and was not going to run it until that got corrected. i see now that everything is on there but RATW and PP. those other reissues have all their earlier B-sides on-line so that is a huge plus. can't wait for the Super Furry Animals poll!

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 22:35 (two years ago) link

BTW, this one is still open: 2019 Metal ’n’ Heavy Rock Poll: VOTING & CAMPAIGNING thread (open until the 21st of February)

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 23:57 (two years ago) link

Most excited about "New Wave (just can’t get enough) Albums and Singles" and SFA will be such a fun poll.

the future is now, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:59 (two years ago) link

Is anyone in a position to start something soon? Cat Power was almost 6 months ago now.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:36 (two years ago) link

I'm thinking of offering my services to do the graphics for the eventual R.E.M. poll (it's 14th on the upcoming poll list)--that is, if rogermexico doesn't want to do them himself.

But here's the gimmick. I would ask all ILM'ers to send me random pictures in an R.E.M. aesthetic (whatever that is). Inscrutable objects, blurry photos you haven't deleted yet, chalk marks on a truck tire, a link to a drawing of some adzes, an old shopping list with a penguin scrawled on it. Or take a picture to illustrate a specific song--but don't tell me the song. I'll slap these bits together haphazardly, paste a wonky font on top and reap the acclaim.

If I do it, I'll probably have to start working on it now to get it done for the reveal sometime next year.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/History_of_Inventions_USNM_15_Adz.png/640px-History_of_Inventions_USNM_15_Adz.png

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 8 February 2020 09:21 (two years ago) link

Now that sounds promising.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 8 February 2020 14:08 (two years ago) link

one thing with the underworld poll though would be figuring out where to draw the line with remixes etc., like "dark train" should probably be counted as a separate track to "dark & long" but does that work for all of them, and how do you handle something like "rez/cowgirl"?

frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:10 (two years ago) link

hmmm not sure why it just made a new post but here's my thought - all those 'remixes' should be treated as a distinct track, since they're basically distinct tracks with almost nothing to do with the originals. if you combine votes then you wouldn't be able to put, say, "Dark Train" along with "Thing in a Book", nor "Tin There" with "Pearl's Girl", even though these tracks are very different from each other. as for "Rez/Cowgirl", idk how you'd want to handle it but I'd lean towards just not allowing it

frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:17 (two years ago) link

i'm thinking about running either the Shoegaze poll or the New Wave poll this summer, which should i do?

Bee OK, Saturday, 15 February 2020 00:54 (two years ago) link

Taking Sides

50, 46, 43, 40, 38, 36, 35, 34

vs

50, 36, 33, 30, 28, 26, 25, 24

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:09 (three months ago) link

I've always used the top one. I think it's more important to check ballots for spelling and punctuation, e.g. in this ballot make sure "Jesus, Etc." and "Jesus Etc" are counted together in the pivot table

nate woolls, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:24 (three months ago) link

lol, no wonder there is some confusion:

I meant: 50, 46, 43, 40, 38, 36, 35, 34

Going too fast and doing other things...

Bee OK, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:25 (three months ago) link

thanks everyone!

Indexed, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:37 (three months ago) link

I always used a linear scale, which is what the EOY polls use, so for poll of ballot size 40, #1 gets 80 points, #2 gets 78 points, and so on, all the way down to #40 gets 2 points

ufo, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 00:37 (three months ago) link

There's a pivot table in the spreadsheet? No wonder I haven't been able to figure out how it works!

At some point you've got to sort the song list alphabetically so you can easily spot typos and such. Or paste the song list in an empty tab and then "remove doubles"--if any title appears twice, one of them has a typo.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 05:02 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I'm going to add The Police to my queue.

I'm going to do Super Furry Animals in the next six months (the timing feels right), just a heads up.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:32 (two months ago) link

looking forward to SFA

ufo, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 23:34 (two months ago) link

Not necessarily volunteering (I'm no good with images or math), but just wanna throw this one out there to gauge interest: Poppy Bush Interzone singles.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Friday, 30 September 2022 15:06 (two months ago) link

Please add me to the list to run a Punk tracks poll 74-84. With war in europe, stagflation crisis winter coming, and general malaise, seems like the right time.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Friday, 30 September 2022 17:41 (two months ago) link

Noted, I'm not going to update the list anytime soon but I think this can go after Wilco if so inclined.

Bee OK, Friday, 30 September 2022 18:46 (two months ago) link

Going to proceed with Punk tracks poll tomorrow unless someone with more seniority in requesting a poll would like to step in this weekend.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:03 (two months ago) link

Since that one is delayed is anyone willing to run a poll or even taking over that poll? I was thinking about running it but that would be a disservice as my knowledge in Punk has too many gaps.

Bee OK, Thursday, 20 October 2022 04:23 (one month ago) link

i would totally run a sparklehorse poll right now if there is enough interest

i've got sparklehorse fever, and the only cure is to systematically go through the entire discography repeated times and administer a ballot poll

Karl Malone, Monday, 24 October 2022 21:56 (one month ago) link

That's a poll for which I could only really submit a ballot from one record (Vividixie) but would appreciate the rollout and enforced poll-result listening.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 15:21 (one month ago) link

yeah, i feel confident that you'd love the rest! i started with It's a Wonderful Life in high school, and only really listened to Viva closely for the first time a few weeks ago! since then i have listened to it many times. it rules.

one intriguing thing about a Sparklehorse ballot poll is that i really have no clue what the consensus is on either the album or which songs are the ones that everyone knows. the first couple albums have songs that sound like they should have been hits during a time when "alternative music" was still a thing. but then i'm youtubing and i see them making their "american television debut" on craig kilbourn, playing "it's a wonderful life", and you can just see that some of his most pop-friendly hits had been slept on

one reason NOT to do a Sparkhorse poll, though: maybe there just isn't enough. 4 albums (Viva, Good Morning Spider, It's a Wonderful Life, Dreamt for Light Years in the Belly of a Mountain), In the Fishtank with Fennesz, and Dark Night of the Soul (which I need to listen to more, it's hard to categorize). Some singles, EPs. But maybe that's not enough.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 15:37 (one month ago) link

you could add the two dancing hoods albums to a sparklehorse poll.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:14 (one month ago) link

yeah...very diminishing marginal returns there, though, i think. i'm not a huge fan of what i've heard. they are definitely catchy and replacements like at some points, but i just finished watching the 1998 dutch documentary on youtube and he refers to them as "that pop band" or something like that and relays a story about how he boring he ended up finding that, how leaving that behind led to his first "good music"

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 21:36 (one month ago) link

yeah, they were a very different band. but they had their fans, and maybe there's a discovery or two still waiting to be found, or at least a connection to be made between his "that pop band" roots and what he went on to do? just a thought!

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 23:17 (one month ago) link

oh for sure! sorry, i didn't mean to seem like i was shutting it down. i would definitely include that, and if nothing else be interested in what everyone's favorite songs were from the pre-sparklehorse days! i'm still very much in learning mode and haven't listened to some stuff yet, so i'd be open to absolutely anything that involves linkous.

it's sad, because way back in the day, the way i learned about sparklehorse was through radiohead. the "wish you were here" collab. but the thing was, back then it was the audiogalaxy era for me, which meant lots of freely downloaded songs of unknown provenance and sometimes fakes. so when i heard "radiohead' doing wish you were here, with Linkous' voice, i immediately thought "false". now, of course, listening to it i hear that it's radiohead (or at least some of them?) playing instrumentally while linkous sings. to my warped radiohead-obsessed mind of the time, i could not fathom that thom yorke would let anyone else sing, other then himself. so when I heard heard Linkous' voice it just sounded like "fake-Thom" to me. good lord i was fucked up.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 23:27 (one month ago) link

i think i am just going to post a top 15 on a sparklehorse thread and be done with it

FUCK IT

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 23:33 (one month ago) link

SUSPENDED
Please Poll Me: ILM ballot poll #116 punk tracks1975-1984 LOBBYING AND DISCUSSION!!

Since that one is suspended is anyone willing to run a poll or even taking over that poll?

Bee OK, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:22 (one month ago) link

The reason for the bump is that I am really hoping ILM can do one more of these before the year is out. If no-one steps in I might go ahead and start something next week. It won't be the Super Furry Animals tho because of the time and effort I'm going to put into that one. I'm not willing to do that one quite yet. The other one I was thinking about running is The Jesus and Mary Chain but not really in the mood for it at the moment. I do have a back up plan if no-one steps up here in the next few days.

Bee OK, Friday, 4 November 2022 02:26 (one month ago) link

I'm going to add The National to this list. I think a deep dive for this band will be fascinating. I'm not nearly up to date with them but seeing them live for only about an hour was great. It was a rooting festival type of thing with many bands. This poll The National (Poll) is what convinced me to add them. It won't be for years tho and if anyone wants to take the baton for me that would be fine too.

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 November 2022 03:30 (one month ago) link

I will run Super Furry Animals in 2023, I won't delay that one much further.

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 November 2022 03:32 (one month ago) link

xp you can (seriously) mark me down for 'mr. november' at number one and zeros the rest of the way

mookieproof, Saturday, 5 November 2022 03:33 (one month ago) link

I'd run a Taylor Swift poll if someone else handles images.

Indexed, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:36 (three weeks ago) link

don't we do one of those every year?

rob, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:45 (three weeks ago) link

Albums, probably, but I don't think we've ever done a proper, discography-spanning tracks poll.

Indexed, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:52 (three weeks ago) link

lol rob

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:54 (three weeks ago) link

xxp no that's the CRJ poll.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:55 (three weeks ago) link

IT'S A JOKE DONT FLAG ME

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:56 (three weeks ago) link

I made poll images in PowerPoint, thanks whoever it was itt that recommended that, it was really a lot easier than I anticipated.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:57 (three weeks ago) link

yep, that's how I made the Wilco poll images. Obviously doesn't do anything close to what the graphic design programs can do but it's surprisingly serviceable!

Indexed, Thursday, 17 November 2022 16:10 (three weeks ago) link

i would do a black sabbath poll

i am mainlining sabbath regardless of whether or not anyone replies

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 20:13 (three weeks ago) link

In.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 18 November 2022 20:39 (three weeks ago) link

Yes

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Friday, 18 November 2022 21:06 (three weeks ago) link

sweet! well, i'm up for doing it whenever there's an opening in the schedule

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:55 (three weeks ago) link

in the schedule of ballot polls, i mean. my personal schedule is looking pretty good

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2022 21:56 (three weeks ago) link

You can go after the Police if you like. Hard to believe ILM hasn't done Sabbath yet.

Bee OK, Saturday, 19 November 2022 00:01 (three weeks ago) link

great, that sounds good!

and yeah, i was very surprised as well.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 November 2022 00:07 (three weeks ago) link

Is a Sparklehorse poll dead or can I add it for later?

Bee OK, Saturday, 19 November 2022 06:09 (three weeks ago) link

I would vote, BTW

Bee OK, Saturday, 19 November 2022 06:09 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra) at 5:12 4 Dec 22

Would be cool if they polled all the art critics to find out what are the 100 best paintings.

I'd read that poll.
how doable is this? I mean not "all the art critics" but "all the ilxors" of course.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 4 December 2022 14:12 (six days ago) link

Definitely be interested in taking part in this.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 4 December 2022 15:16 (six days ago) link


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