ILM Ballot Polls for 2020 and beyond -- the ordering, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

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Original (June 2011 - December 2013): Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

Part two (January 2014 - December 2019): ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

ILM Ballot Polls: where to find the results threads

Precursors to the numbered list:

A. Pavement - Johnny Fever (finished)
B. Manic Street Preachers - Jamie_ATP (finished)
C. Blur - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. The Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. The Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (finished)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever (finished)
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H. (finished)
10. “Producers” - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic (finished)
12. James Brown - strongo/Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
13. The Jacksons - Jamie_ATP (finished)
14. David Bowie - WmC (finished)
15. Paul Simon - Lamp (finished)
16. The Rolling Stones - rogermexico (finished)
17. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain (finished)
18. Depeche Mode - crüt (finished)
19. Beastie Boys - Johnny Fever (finished)
20. ABBA - donna rouge (finished)
20B. Bee Gees - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
21. Neil Young - clemenza (finished)
22. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B. (finished)
23. The Cure - nate woolls (finished)
24. Kate Bush - Ismael Klata (finished)
25. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat (finished)
26. Joni Mitchell - Mordy (finished)
27. The Neptunes - V79/some dude (finished)
28. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods (finished)
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains (finished)
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP (finished)
31. Madonna - Johnny Fever (finished)
32. Miles Davis - WmC (finished)
33. The Fall - Mark G (finished)
34. PJ Harvey - Nasty, Brutish & Short (finished)
35. Cocteau Twins - Le Bateau Ivre/LeRooLeRoo (finished)
36. Sonic Youth - ArchCarrier (finished)
37. New Order - Bee OK (finished)
37B. The Doors - Ismael Klata (finished)
38. The Clash - Gukbe (finished)
39. Motown Singles - a hoy hoy (finished)
40. Jay-Z - some dude (finished)
41. Elton John - Johnny Fever (finished)
42. Stax - seandalai (finished)
43. Disco - Tuomas (finished)
44. R. Kelly - Spottie_Ottie_Dope (finished)
45. Tom Waits - chap (finished)
45B. Velvet Underground and Solo Careers - Shakey Mo Collier (finished)
46. The “Classic Rock” Canon - some dude (finished)
47. Elvis Costello - kornrulez (finished)
48. Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry - charlie h (finished)
49. Pink Floyd - Elvis Telecom (finished)
50. Steely Dan - Bee OK (finished)
51. Bob Dylan - tipsy mothra (finished)
52. Sleater-Kinney + offshoots - C.Grisso/McCain (finished)
53. Outkast - Spottie (finished)
54. Autechre - Leee (finished)
55. Brian Eno - WmC (finished)
56. Radiohead - nate woolls (finished)
57. Spaceman 3 (& descendants) - Elvis Telecom (finished)
58. "Epics" - Leee (finished)
59. XTC - Οὖτις (finished)
60. The Boo Radleys - Bee OK (finished)
61. Yo La Tengo - Van Horn Street/clemenza (finished)
62. Creedence Clearwater Revival - crüt (finished)
63. Ramones - tipsy mothra (finished)
64. Italo - daavid (finished)
65. P-Funk - Οὖτις (finished)
66. Metallica - pplains (finished)
67. Spoon - Bee OK (finished)
68. Queen - charlie h (finished)
69. Nirvana - Gavin, Leeds (finished)
69B. Pixies - Johnny Fever (finished)
70. Extreme Metal - Viceroy (finished)
71. Tom Petty - rogermexico. (finished)
72. The Smiths - nate woolls (finished)
73. Bauhaus/Tones on Tail-Love and Rockets/Peter Murphy - Bee OK (finished)
74. Stereolab - Moka (finished)
75. Van Halen - Johnny Fever (finished)
76. Devo - soref (finished)
77. Can - Z S Moka (finished)
78. Oasis - Bee OK (finished)
79. George Michael - Ismael Klata (finished)
80. The Stooges/Iggy Pop - Moka (finished)
81. Leonard Cohen - Simon H. (finished)
82. Talking Heads - Bee OK (finished)
83. Blondie - nate woolls (finished)
84. Van Morrison - kornrulez6969 (finished)
85. Wu-Tang Clan - Spottie (finished)
86. Joy Division – Bee OK (finished)
87. The Smashing Pumpkins - ufo (finished)
88. Björk – Eric H (finished)
89. Beatles solo careers - Οὖτις (finished)
90. Elvis Presley - Euler and Moka (images) - (finished)
91. Tori Amos - ufo (finished)
92. They Might Be Giants - sic (finished)
93. The B-52's - Bee OK/Karl Malone (finished)
94. Belle and Sebastian - Nag! Nag! Nag! (finished)
95. Songs Under 2 Minutes - Karl Malone (finished)
96. The Burt Bacharach songbook – WmC (finished)
97. Beck – Bee OK (finished)
98. The Go-Betweens - Nag! Nag! Nag! (finished)
99. Cat Power – Leee (finished)

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Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080
Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
Jimi Hendrix - C. Grisso/McCain
Genesis + solo - NickB
Dead C - Raymond Cummings
Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve
John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
Rush - Matt #2
Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan
Billy Joel - Doctor Casino
Low - aldo
Nine Inch Nails - chap
REM - rogermexico.
Shoegaze/Dream Pop/Post-rock (Albums and EPs) - Bee OK
Covers - kornrulez6969
New Pornographers/AC Newman - staggerlee
No Wave - sarahell
DFA - Van Horn Street
Misfits/Samhain/Danzig - gr8080
Erykah Badu - Eric H.
Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie h
Herbie Hancock - crüt
Aphex Twin - Stevie D
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Bee OK
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis - Spottie
Siouxsie & the Banshees/The Creatures - LeRooLeRoo
AM Radio Gold - Jeff W
Eurovision - nxd
Steve Albini - nate woolls
Yellow Magic Orchestra - frogbs
Byrds + offshoots - kornrulez6969
Cardiacs + affiliated - imago
Tropicalia/MPB - Frederik B
Chic Organization - pollrunner needed for this one
French/Francophone - Van Horn Street
The Cars/Ric Ocasek - crüt
Tim Buckley - Naive Teen Idol
The Cramps - Moka
Bristol trip-hop - chap
Wire - kornrulez6969
jungle/drum 'n bass - Le Bateau Ivre
Suede - Bee OK
Robyn Hitchcock - campreverb
Power Ballads - rogermexico.
Grunge - Cosmic Slop
Artists poll - Dan Worsley
Kylie Minogue - BradNelson
Math-rock/Hardcore/Post-Hardcore poll - Odysseus
Phil Spector - crüt
Glen Campbell - ― Spottie
ZZ Top - rogermexico.
QOTSA/Desert Sessions - rogermexico.
T Rex - Naive Teen Idol
Bardo Pond – Leee
Super Furry Animals – poll runner needed for this one
Nu Metal Trax – Mordy
Linda Ronstadt – crüt
New Wave (just can’t get enough) Albums and Singles - Bee OK
easy listening/adult contemporary – dyl
Serge Gainsbourg - Camaraderie at Arms Length
Galaxie 500/Luna - Bee OK

*added since last update:

Girl Groups singles poll - Dan Worsley
Phil Elverum - devvvine
Wussy - clemenza
Broadcast - Nag! Nag! Nag!
The Replacements - Nag! Nag! Nag!

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:08 (eleven months ago) link

Thought it was time for a new thread considering we are in a new decade and the other thread is quite long. We are also right at 100, which is unbelievable. I pretty much just kept the same name of the thread too. I also put in a few modifications and it does look a bit better.

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:08 (eleven months ago) link

BTW in the "Where to find the results thread" if you click on mookieproof links you will find each poll's full results list, where they exist and where he could find them.

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:12 (eleven months ago) link

had been thinking an Underworld poll would be good but i'm not sure at the moment when i'll have time to do a poll this year

i guess you can put me down for it but if someone else happens to have time before me and wants to run an Underworld poll they're welcome to run it instead

would also love to see that SFA poll happen at some point now that Guerilla is finally on NA spotify?

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 01:40 (eleven months ago) link

I'd run an Underworld poll, we'd do well to make it happen before the next Drift series starts up and produces another 12 hours of tracks and jams to wrestle with

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 02:09 (eleven months ago) link

lol i can't believe it's been 6 years since i signed up to do that herbie hancock poll

uncrut gems (crüt), Friday, 7 February 2020 02:16 (eleven months ago) link

I think Tori Amos was the last one of these I voted in, and that feels like five years ago.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 February 2020 02:38 (eleven months ago) link

glad to see this thread! thanks, Bee OK.

i'm gonna take my name off of the Billy Joel poll. i ran the track-by-track listening thread with the vague idea that we COULD roll from that into a poll or something, but in practice that thread had such a great turnout and discussion that i'm not sure we'd really gain much by doing a poll, even if everyone could muster it. the joy of ballot polls is in the discussion more than the ranking, and we had one hell of a discussion there. if someone else wants to run it i'd totally vote, though!

Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 February 2020 02:40 (eleven months ago) link

Is there a thread like this for all the various movie polls? I know the detritus thread each year has links to all the other ones, but I meant the genre and decade polls.

clemenza, Friday, 7 February 2020 03:24 (eleven months ago) link

I realize the movie polls don't follow back-to-back like the artist ones do, but it would be nice if there were some place where we could float ideas about movie polls and gauge interest (and let folks know they're going on). There's one I've been thinking about for a while, and it will be some time before I can even entertain the idea, but I wouldn't currently know how I would even go about seeing if people would be into it.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 February 2020 03:32 (eleven months ago) link

Great idea--start a thread. Anyone with an idea can test it out there--hopefully limited to whether there's interest or not, saving the this-belongs-no-it-doesn't arguments for the actual poll. I think a cumulative results thread would be useful too; some of those movie threads, like the comedy and horror, are really hard to load when you want to check something.

clemenza, Friday, 7 February 2020 03:40 (eleven months ago) link

Pitch your ideas for possible film polls here

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 February 2020 03:46 (eleven months ago) link

"New Rose" shuffled up on my phone today and after I was through shouting along I thought a punk rock tracks poll would be fun. Limit it to the period 1974 (Ramones formation) to 1984 (Zen Arcade/Let It Be/Double Nickels).

Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 7 February 2020 04:10 (eleven months ago) link

Would definitely participate in classic punk poll.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 February 2020 04:14 (eleven months ago) link

Can't wait for the "is this punk or is this new wave?" arguing.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 February 2020 04:14 (eleven months ago) link

yes lol

Dan S, Friday, 7 February 2020 04:16 (eleven months ago) link

We definitely need an Underworld poll

groovypanda, Friday, 7 February 2020 07:57 (eleven months ago) link

one thing with the underworld poll though would be figuring out where to draw the line with remixes etc., like "dark train" should probably be counted as a separate track to "dark & long" but does that work for all of them, and how do you handle something like "rez/cowgirl"?

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 08:05 (eleven months ago) link

if it were me, I'd exclude outside remixes, and combine votes for different versions / recordings / mixes / arrangements, but note votes for specific versions in the results. and probably make an eligibility chart so folks don't split votes from themselves.

Rez and Cowgirl I'd be inclined to list separately since they were such distinct recordings, made over a year apart, but roll together in results if voters demand.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 08:33 (eleven months ago) link

i mean the "rez/cowgirl" mashup that's been a live staple and was on everything, everything. obviously you list "rez" and "cowgirl" separately but then do you allow votes for "rez/cowgirl" as a separate entity or not or combine the votes in some way?

i agree about excluding outside remixes and combining votes for the cases that are more directly alternate versions/recordings/mixes/arrangements of the same track, the edge case is the remixes they did themselves that are basically entirely separate works to the original (most prominently "dark train" but i think there's a few others out there too)

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 09:08 (eleven months ago) link

yeah there are five or so fully different Dark & Long "versions" that are sometimes listed as discrete songs / sometimes versions, and most of the dubno singles, plus Pearl's Girl and Born Slippy, have the same casual approach to taxonomy. The Born Slippys are as different as Dark Train from Dark & Long, while the Dirty x-s generally sound like separate recordings of the same song, and so do some of the other Darks. And some of the versions even have different mixes!

The band labelled them all as Song (Version) on the super-deluxe reissues, which is probably a tip worth taking.

C21st Underworld instead seemed to do all the rethinking and reworking off-record, playing some things live for years but waiting until they decided on a definitive version to release one (eg You Do Scribble). Drift finally went back to that early-'90s direction, what with the Necks and no-Necks Appleshines, remixing and re-arranging and re-editing things between single and EP and album, the different Soniamodes and Brilliants...

seeing how the voters prefer to think of Rez and Cowgirl is part of the fun!

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 09:56 (eleven months ago) link

i think one of the other dark & long "remixes" is actually a remix of one of the other dubnobass tracks even

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:14 (eleven months ago) link

See also Rowla and Cherry Pie

nashwan, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:40 (eleven months ago) link

I'd still like to do a jungle/dnb poll, as listed above. Not sure if there's enough interest in it though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 7 February 2020 10:50 (eleven months ago) link

I'd follow it, definitely, but I probs wouldn't be able to contribute a whole bunch

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 7 February 2020 10:53 (eleven months ago) link

I'd join in a d&b poll for sure.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 7 February 2020 10:54 (eleven months ago) link

I feel like there was one a few years back. Maybe that was 90s Dance in general. Definitely one I'm more likely to participate in or even help run.

nashwan, Friday, 7 February 2020 11:54 (eleven months ago) link

Prefab Sprout poll, thanks.

triggercut, Friday, 7 February 2020 12:22 (eleven months ago) link

^ YES. Do it! If only so I can be annoyingly "Swoon is *so* underrated, geez" and stuff.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 7 February 2020 12:57 (eleven months ago) link

i think one of the other dark & long "remixes" is actually a remix of one of the other dubnobass tracks even

― ufo, Friday, February 7, 2020 9:14 PM (thirty minutes ago)

See also Rowla and Cherry Pie

― nashwan, Friday, February 7, 2020 9:40 PM (four minutes ago)

my lineball instinct was to separate them like Rez and Cowgirl, but they really are exactly the same piece in different arrangements (and also reminiscent of when they'd do a Soft Mix and a Hard Mix on work-for-hire remix gigs around this time). I guess the only conclusion is not to do an Underworld poll

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:45 (eleven months ago) link

Just checked: counting the album and 7" version, I have 1 hour 55 minutes and 16 seconds of Dark whatevers. Let's just make them the ballot poll.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:55 (eleven months ago) link

Prefab Sprout poll, thanks.

― triggercut, Friday, February 7, 2020 7:22 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes please

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:58 (eleven months ago) link

would also love to see that SFA poll happen at some point now that Guerilla is finally on NA spotify?

put me down as poll runner for super furry animals, i'm not sure what interest there is (probably only around 5 current posters on the main thread), but they can't be pollrunnerless

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:48 (eleven months ago) link

staggerlee hasn't posted since 2014. If no one objects (or if they just changed usernames), I'd like to step up for the Newpies poll.

Also: I was thinking about doing the Hendrix poll this September, in recognition of the 50th (not 51st) anniversary of his passing.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 February 2020 20:57 (eleven months ago) link

we haven't done Hendrix yet...?

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:01 (eleven months ago) link

We didn't, but your mom did!

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:06 (eleven months ago) link

I'll show myself out...

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:06 (eleven months ago) link

I was kind of musing about a PSYCHEDELIC ROCK poll but have the feeling that's too hairy a beast to properly corral.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:09 (eleven months ago) link

Also, post-rock can/should be its own poll distinct from dream pop/shoegaze.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:12 (eleven months ago) link

As far as timing is concerned, keep in mind that the 2019 metal poll is still underway, so maybe wait until it's over? Otherwise these all sound like great ideas.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Friday, 7 February 2020 21:13 (eleven months ago) link

would love a prefab sprout poll

ufo, Friday, 7 February 2020 21:42 (eleven months ago) link

thanks for taking over SFA for me wtev. i got mad that there weren't on Spotify and was not going to run it until that got corrected. i see now that everything is on there but RATW and PP. those other reissues have all their earlier B-sides on-line so that is a huge plus. can't wait for the Super Furry Animals poll!

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 22:35 (eleven months ago) link

BTW, this one is still open: 2019 Metal ’n’ Heavy Rock Poll: VOTING & CAMPAIGNING thread (open until the 21st of February)

Bee OK, Friday, 7 February 2020 23:57 (eleven months ago) link

Most excited about "New Wave (just can’t get enough) Albums and Singles" and SFA will be such a fun poll.

the future is now, Saturday, 8 February 2020 02:59 (eleven months ago) link

Is anyone in a position to start something soon? Cat Power was almost 6 months ago now.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 8 February 2020 03:36 (eleven months ago) link

I'm thinking of offering my services to do the graphics for the eventual R.E.M. poll (it's 14th on the upcoming poll list)--that is, if rogermexico doesn't want to do them himself.

But here's the gimmick. I would ask all ILM'ers to send me random pictures in an R.E.M. aesthetic (whatever that is). Inscrutable objects, blurry photos you haven't deleted yet, chalk marks on a truck tire, a link to a drawing of some adzes, an old shopping list with a penguin scrawled on it. Or take a picture to illustrate a specific song--but don't tell me the song. I'll slap these bits together haphazardly, paste a wonky font on top and reap the acclaim.

If I do it, I'll probably have to start working on it now to get it done for the reveal sometime next year.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/History_of_Inventions_USNM_15_Adz.png/640px-History_of_Inventions_USNM_15_Adz.png

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 8 February 2020 09:21 (eleven months ago) link

Now that sounds promising.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 8 February 2020 14:08 (eleven months ago) link

one thing with the underworld poll though would be figuring out where to draw the line with remixes etc., like "dark train" should probably be counted as a separate track to "dark & long" but does that work for all of them, and how do you handle something like "rez/cowgirl"?

frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:10 (eleven months ago) link

hmmm not sure why it just made a new post but here's my thought - all those 'remixes' should be treated as a distinct track, since they're basically distinct tracks with almost nothing to do with the originals. if you combine votes then you wouldn't be able to put, say, "Dark Train" along with "Thing in a Book", nor "Tin There" with "Pearl's Girl", even though these tracks are very different from each other. as for "Rez/Cowgirl", idk how you'd want to handle it but I'd lean towards just not allowing it

frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:17 (eleven months ago) link

i'm thinking about running either the Shoegaze poll or the New Wave poll this summer, which should i do?

Bee OK, Saturday, 15 February 2020 00:54 (eleven months ago) link

Oops, just saw this is the ILM thread. Still, nominate stuff!

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 24 September 2020 15:16 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Okay, this one is finished.

I hate ILoveMusic, it's got too many POLLS - Artist Poll #104 - THE REPLACEMENTS - RESULTS

So... NEXT <INTERROBANG>

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 October 2020 12:31 (three months ago) link

If there’s enough interest I might be able to run The Cramps poll. Halloween season seems like a good fit for them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:20 (three months ago) link

I would vote in a Cramps poll. Also, since I’m here, Fugazi and a comprehensive NWA + related solo albums polls I would participate in (if they haven’t already been done, I hope?).

rattle, Thursday, 15 October 2020 14:40 (three months ago) link

I'd definitely submit a Cramps ballot!

rattle: seems Fugazi and NWA+ haven't been done and are not yet in the "to do" list in the first post. How would you feel about doing the numbers for those? :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:28 (three months ago) link

i would also submit a cramps ballot. my partner is a cramps megafan, while i am only a strongfan, so i'd like an opportunity to up my cramps game!

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:32 (three months ago) link

Nag! that’s a “neg” from me. Voting and commenting on is far as I’m willing to go....2nd thought, and, yeah: I won’t.

rattle, Thursday, 15 October 2020 16:42 (three months ago) link

N.W.A and related would be timely this week too, but Cramps at Halloween is a great idea.

Covidiots from UHF (sic), Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:13 (three months ago) link

OK i'm taking the lead!

https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=111013#unread

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:30 (three months ago) link

I'll be thrilled when there's a generalist "best of 2010's" thread. Maybe it'd be better a year or two from now, though, to better let that decade settle in.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 22:56 (three months ago) link

someone (can't remember who) had said they'd run it around July this year but that fell through obviously

ufo, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 23:46 (three months ago) link

ILM Artist Poll No. 105 · THE CRAMPS · Results Thread

Bee OK, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 20:09 (two months ago) link

Nick Cave/Bad Seeds/Birthday Party/et al - charlie h

Is charlie h still about? I wouldn't mind such an incentive to absorb more his 21st century material...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 8 November 2020 03:58 (two months ago) link

I'm about. I'm happy to do this one finally, but would prefer to kick off the voting in about a week's time. anyone keen to jump in before then?

charlie rex, Thursday, 12 November 2020 11:59 (two months ago) link

nick cave poll sounds good

ufo, Thursday, 12 November 2020 12:43 (two months ago) link

Cool! With several hundred tracks under consideration I could probably use a bonus week of thinking time anyway!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 12 November 2020 13:15 (two months ago) link

sweet. I'll get this started by around the 23rd of this month.

charlie rex, Sunday, 15 November 2020 02:43 (two months ago) link

I’m in to help with the images, rollout, whatever I can help with for the decade poll

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 21 November 2020 18:33 (two months ago) link

nice, i'm very excited for the decade poll! when is it planned for?

ufo, Saturday, 21 November 2020 23:56 (two months ago) link

Noms usually kick off mid-December.

timber euros (seandalai), Sunday, 22 November 2020 02:43 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

MF DOOM?

Chris L, Sunday, 3 January 2021 12:01 (three weeks ago) link

Yes! re MF DOOM. Do it!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 4 January 2021 03:12 (three weeks ago) link

maybe wait til the year-end shenanigans are thru, but yes co-sign DOOM

shabbat bloody shabbat (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 January 2021 15:20 (three weeks ago) link

I could do the DOOM one if a poll runner is needed (yes, after year end shenanigans). I haven't run one before.

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 10 January 2021 16:05 (two weeks ago) link

Ok so after year end stuff. we're gonna have the MF DOOM one. then can we run the grunge poll or are we still trying to go in order with the list that was posted a year ago in this thread?

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:11 (one week ago) link

I think its better to go with the order as it was as people have waited years, but obviously some may want to be bumped down the list as well.

Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:25 (one week ago) link

I like the idea of the grunge poll coming right after hair metal/hard rock poll though. Maybe we could arrange that?

Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:26 (one week ago) link

no rush on my part if I'm doing DOOM

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:28 (one week ago) link

ILM isn’t so busy that we couldn’t do multiple polls at a time, no?

All cars are bad (Euler), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:30 (one week ago) link

i think anything is open. is bee ok around to update the list? a lot of the users listed to run these arent here anymore

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:32 (one week ago) link

a bifurcated process, interesting

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:42 (one week ago) link

Im on that list under different usernames so it might be the same for others

Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 22:44 (one week ago) link

There are almost certainly further folks quietly observing, keen to eventually run things they suggested in, like, 2014. eg. the Nick Cave poll a few weeks ago!

There is no real order specified up top any more. I mean, I ran two in 2020 that were on the list for a matter of months, if that. BUT they were during periods where many weeks had passed without anyone else declaring a wish to proceed.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:58 (one week ago) link

i think anything is open. is bee ok around to update the list? a lot of the users listed to run these arent here anymore

this board is a living animal that keeps evolving. DOOM could be next because of the circumstances. this thread sorts of has a handle on the timing, just say you want to run a poll and if no one objects then its a go. i don't like the idea of more than one at a time but i'm only one person. anyways, this is all mute until after the year end polls, this will start up again after that.

i will post an updated list in a few weeks.

Bee OK, Saturday, 16 January 2021 06:08 (one week ago) link

I'm still down to do the no wave poll even though a bunch of stuff has skipped ahead ... I just figured someone would contact me or something and let me know it was my turn ... nbd

sarahell, Saturday, 16 January 2021 06:57 (one week ago) link

DOOM should be asap imo

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 16 January 2021 07:13 (one week ago) link

get in before he reveals his death was a hoax

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 16 January 2021 07:13 (one week ago) link

Maybe it's time to reinstate a running order extending several polls ahead. Might help in getting long-delayed polls firmly back on the agenda AND reduce stagnant periods, which have sometimes been quite protracted recently.

If I was in charge I'd actually just allocate a calendar month for each poll. Possibly starting March 1st, seeing as EOY polls seem to extend through much of Feb. And then a new poll from the 1st of each month. Easy. And no guesswork or waiting around. If a poll-runner was contemplating a weirdly bloated voting period or rollout, they'd know to expect the potential* distraction of the next month's poll, which would start regardless. :)

*very few are interested in every single poll, after all.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:15 (one week ago) link

so you are saying it should read like this?

March: Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080

if gr8080 is still around then he can say i'll do it or ask someone to take his place in running it?

April: Stephin Merritt - Gukbe

i would love another Gukbe poll

Bee OK, Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:26 (one week ago) link

Kinda. You'd presumably still need to negotiate who goes into given slots. I'm just wondering out loud whether an actual date rather than "whenever X and Y has finished" might improve turnaround and reduce stagnant periods.

It sometimes feels like the next poll to go ahead has been dictated a little too much by whoever happens to visit this thread in quiet periods. I mean, I've benefited from this myself, but I happily concede that I probably shouldn't have had the opportunity to run 4 polls in 2 years, typically on short notice, while sarahell and charlie rex (for example) have been waiting far, far longer. And seemingly mainly because I've been attentive to this thread when things have stagnated!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 17 January 2021 02:07 (one week ago) link

the problem has been that a lot of the people who signed up years ago haven't been around so 'everyone just waits their turn' stopped working years ago leading to the current system of people just run one when there's a gap and they want to do it

ufo, Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:13 (one week ago) link

Some names are surely inactive. But there are plenty of recent signs that others really *have* been waiting patiently. The aforementioned No Wave poll was suggested in 2014. Oor Neechy mentions being on the list under multiple aliases. And the last two 2020 single-artist polls had been on the list for absolutely ages: Nick Cave since '14, The Cramps since '16.

Looking back to the original thread it's striking how tight the operation was in the early days. Amazing.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 18 January 2021 01:29 (one week ago) link

last day to vote over in ILM's 2020 End of Year Tracks & Albums Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD

timber euros (seandalai), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:02 (four days ago) link


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