Awesome psychedelic songs by (generally) non-psych bands

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Sometimes, Marcia and Etrusca is all I ever need

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofn341CzgoQ

imago, Thursday, 2 January 2020 20:55 (eight months ago) link

"See My Friends" by The Kinks a pretty classic example of this

frogbs, Thursday, 2 January 2020 20:57 (eight months ago) link

the norman greenbaum group "dr. west's medicine show and junk band" were mostly a (bad) old-timey string band but then they did this b-side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdaACh6CZW0

and then the next year greenbaum did "spirit in the sky", whatever this song is still better.

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:19 (eight months ago) link

Cilla Black - Abyssinian Secret

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuqlLpXJyag

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:26 (eight months ago) link

does "just checked in to see what condition my condition is in" count?

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:28 (eight months ago) link

Anything from Their Satanic Majesties Request, especially She's A Rainbow.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:34 (eight months ago) link

Buck Owens--Who's Going To Mow Your Grass

Nobody's mistaking it for Electric Ladyland but it's got some great fuzz guitar and is altogether very cool.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:39 (eight months ago) link

Anything from Their Satanic Majesties Request, especially She's A Rainbow.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, January 2, 2020 1:34 PM

hot take: that's their best album. wrong thread maybe, but i stand by it.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:45 (eight months ago) link

Kinks: "Sitting By The Riverside"

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:51 (eight months ago) link

in what way are the Kinks not a psych band

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:07 (eight months ago) link

Nary a backwards guitar on any Kinks song. Plus, I'm reasonably certain none of them ever dropped acid.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:21 (eight months ago) link

Nary a backwards guitar on any Kinks song.

do backwards vocals count?

Plus, I'm reasonably certain none of them ever dropped acid.

true of many "psychedelic" bands

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:24 (eight months ago) link

do backwards vocals count?

Ah, right...backwards piano, too, I think (on "Autumn Almanac").

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:28 (eight months ago) link

Are Husker Du a psych band? Shout out to Dreams Reoccurring if not

NickB, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:28 (eight months ago) link

I'd say they had some psychedelic content - "Lazy Old Sun," for example. I don't think of Something Else era Kinks as being "a psych band" per se, though.

timellison, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:29 (eight months ago) link

always been partial to pictures of matchstick men by status quo. a bit bubblegum for a psych song, and not a total one off - i believe they had at least one album in a psych vein before changing to "boogie rock"

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:30 (eight months ago) link

I love Lazy Old Sun

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:31 (eight months ago) link

Nary a backwards guitar on any Kinks song. Plus, I'm reasonably certain none of them ever dropped acid.

I bet you Dave did. Nonetheless, I think the Kinks count as a non-psych band.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:33 (eight months ago) link

mid-60s Kinks (Face to Face, Something Else, We Are the Village Green Preservation Society + assorted EPs/singles) are all peak UK psychedelia imo. Fit right in with the Beatles, Donovan, the Bee Gees, the Stones, Small Faces, etc.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:34 (eight months ago) link

Face to Face yeah but I'm not so sure about the other two. Despite some stuff like "Phenomenal Cat" I've always thought those albums were a bit anti-psych considering the fact that they were a British Invasion band. Not to mention Muswell Hillbillies and pretty much everything they did after that.

frogbs, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:37 (eight months ago) link

I think the Edwardian music hall thing the Kinks had going on was subtly different from the average UK psychedelic band - much less of an affectation.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:41 (eight months ago) link

Let's not forget "Fancy" though, that was pretty damned psychedelic!

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:42 (eight months ago) link

some very arbitrary distinctions being drawn here.

for one thing practically every British Invasion band - the Hollies, the Kinks, the Stones, the Beatles, the Small Faces, the Yardbirds - temporarily became a psych band in short order.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:46 (eight months ago) link

To quibble slightly, the Small Faces were not a British Invasion band, were about 5 years younger and took a shitload of acid.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:50 (eight months ago) link

But, yes, bands did go 'psychedelic', I don't think the Kinks ever did fully though.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 January 2020 22:51 (eight months ago) link

I'll grant that the Kinks carved out a very distinctive niche but too much of the stuff from the releases I cited feature various hallmarks of UK 60s psych - the fairytales, the music hall trappings, the Indian diversions, satirical character sketches, etc. I'm not saying they weren't distinct or unique (they were!) but just because they carved their own path through the psychedelic overgrowth of the era doesn't mean they weren't a part of it. I will grant that they relied less on the novelty record tricks that others went overboard on - backwards everything, sped up/slowed down tracks, fuzz guitars, phasing/flanging effects, etc. - but they dipped their toes in those rivers too (lol @ the sped up voice on "Phenomenal Cat" for ex.), just not as much.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 23:01 (eight months ago) link

question for the floor: is "journey of the sorcerer" psychedelic?

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Thursday, 2 January 2020 23:38 (eight months ago) link

no

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 January 2020 23:41 (eight months ago) link

too much of the stuff from the releases I cited feature various hallmarks of UK 60s psych - the fairytales, the music hall trappings, the Indian diversions, satirical character sketches, etc.

There is fairytale stuff in Kinks? I think the distinction, in part, is that Kinks usually had a sociopolitical aspect. It was rarely, if ever, abstractness for its own sake.

Reminded of the Ray Davies review of Revolver that appeared in Disc and Music Echo. Said, "I just don't like the electronic stuff." Didn't like Yellow Sub or Eleanor Rigby. (Liked "Good Day Sunshine.")

timellison, Friday, 3 January 2020 00:41 (eight months ago) link

Rainy Day in June
Wicked Annabella
Phenomenal Cat

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 January 2020 00:48 (eight months ago) link

Five Americans: "7:30 Guided Tour"

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 January 2020 01:11 (eight months ago) link

Johnny Winter: "Birds Can't Row Boats"

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 January 2020 01:14 (eight months ago) link

Superdrag, "The Art of Dying"

Hilary Duff McKagan (Tom Violence), Friday, 3 January 2020 01:33 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCNORo_tmKs

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 3 January 2020 02:00 (eight months ago) link

The Kinks’ purest psychedelic moment may be “Australia” for its musical setting. Davies’ lyrics were never about hallucinatory consciousness-expansion, though. It’s a stretch to call the Kinks “psychedelic” even by the loose standards by which that word is tossed around.

Leftee, Friday, 3 January 2020 02:31 (eight months ago) link

Link Wray: The Sky is Falling
Mott the Hoople: You Really Got Me
Steve Hunter: Eight Miles High

Also, maybe:
Peter Cook & Dudley Moore: The L.S. Bumble Bee
The Cramps: Beautiful Gardens
Van Morrison: And It Stoned Me
Yo La Tengo: Pass The Hatchet, I Think I'm Goodkind
Paul Roland: Meadows of the Sea
Moby Grape: It’s a Beautiful Day Today

Leftee, Friday, 3 January 2020 02:49 (eight months ago) link

Yellow Magic Orchestra - Lotus Love

brimstead, Friday, 3 January 2020 02:49 (eight months ago) link

Hate to quibble but uh... if Moby Grape is not a psych band, who is?

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Friday, 3 January 2020 02:52 (eight months ago) link

My take on this would be chuck Berry’s “Concerto in B Goode” - could be a Can outtake

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Friday, 3 January 2020 02:58 (eight months ago) link

Can a mod just change this thread title to “what makes a song psychedelic”?

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 January 2020 03:17 (eight months ago) link

sitar-y sounds

phasing fx

brimstead, Friday, 3 January 2020 03:35 (eight months ago) link

good thread concept imo

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Friday, 3 January 2020 03:51 (eight months ago) link

Mellow psychedelia until it lets loose about 5 min in

https://youtu.be/cBG11b-nyCs

that's not my post, Friday, 3 January 2020 04:53 (eight months ago) link

Low - Poor Sucker

https://youtu.be/ob0CILJ93bA

that's not my post, Friday, 3 January 2020 05:11 (eight months ago) link

A number of songs on this excellent album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARAcJgWFGB4

timellison, Friday, 3 January 2020 07:19 (eight months ago) link

have to imagine there's a whole discussion of "fake psychedelia" elsewhere on ILM

anyway did the hollies ever get heavier than this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEj0MBhC_7g
the hollies - maker

you'd also have to include chad & jeremy's LP "of cabbages and kings" and "in our image" by the everly bros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6W4dnD8LkE
everly bros. - glitter and gold

...

lol @ the kinks being a psychedelic band, are you HIGH or something ??

budo jeru, Friday, 3 January 2020 08:29 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mnx8jnsYfc

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:45 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4pNOBIAaLI

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:46 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ27Dcv4fc

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:48 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK-1axSGkXc

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:48 (eight months ago) link

Phew, some people were almost having fun talking about music there for a minute, good thing you stepped in, wouldn’t want this thread to get out of hand

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:50 (eight months ago) link

everything I posted was psychedelic according to at least one metric posted on this thread so far

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:52 (eight months ago) link

a) about psychedelics
b) made by someone on psychedelics
c) sounds "psychedelic" according to random person who has taken psychedelics
d) features "weird" sounds like stereo panning or has "dynamics" or similar

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:54 (eight months ago) link

xp

but Shane was taking a lot of acid at the time

making music on acid does not necessarily result in psychedelic music. i missed the ;-) in your post.

i would consider om as free jazz not as psychedelic but what do i know.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:56 (eight months ago) link

Shakey is having a bad trip

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:01 (eight months ago) link

I'd argue a lot of Dan Deacon's stuff is pretty psychedelic, at least in the sense that say Animal Collection is

frogbs, Monday, 6 January 2020 23:02 (eight months ago) link

I have achieved the higher stages of enlightenment, realizing that everything is psychedelic maaaaaaaaaan

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 23:05 (eight months ago) link

I'm so sorry my mild generalisation about psych music offended you to your very soul dude, I shall remedy this by trying to avoid engaging tedious genre pedants in discussion in the future.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:15 (eight months ago) link

I don’t really get what this has to do with anything tbh. There have psych bands all over the world for like the last 50 years. And lots of them would even say that they were influenced by Can

― Death to (NickB), Monday, January 6, 2020 9:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah would agree with you there. THought it bizarre that that band were supposed to be not worthy of the epithet or however whoever wants to put it. Would think that any influence picked up from them would translate to sounding pretty psychedelic.
Would also think that most people who listen to music would have some shared idea of what did denote the term.
Certainly been a big part of what I've listened to for the last few decades. Music from the time the term was first being used through to other things influenced by that and other related influences since then.
Love the melange of influences playing off each other.

Stevolende, Monday, 6 January 2020 23:19 (eight months ago) link

it's not you Pheeel it's this whole thread

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 23:26 (eight months ago) link

it's not you Pheeel it's this whole thread

― Οὖτις

yes, it's Literally Everybody Except Shakey

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:34 (eight months ago) link

it's the thread where people list all kind of random shit for no reason but clutch their pearls if I suggest the Kinks had a psych period.

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 23:44 (eight months ago) link

Did think that odd. Would have thought there were a couple lps there at least sound pretty much of the period. So would've included.

Stevolende, Monday, 6 January 2020 23:55 (eight months ago) link

d) features "weird" sounds like stereo panning or has "dynamics" or similar

Interesting thing about Can is that they didn't use echo/delay and 'psychedelic' effects like stereo panning and phasing - apart from on "Tago Mago", which is why parts of that album sound kind of dated? In my opinion!

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 00:09 (eight months ago) link

Slightly bemused in general by the idea of Can being some sort of avatar of psychedelia when so much of their music is based on minimalism and avoidance of excess - yes, granted they've got the improvisational jamming aspect too. So "Mother Sky" has the wild acid rock guitar but listen to the bass and drums, where does that fit into 'psychedelia'?

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 00:16 (eight months ago) link

^ this is basically my point about that Smashing Pumpkins song

BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 00:19 (eight months ago) link

Do you consider, say, Nothing's Shocking to be psychedelic?
― BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, January 6, 2020 5:29 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki5KsuP3mzM

I once played with a pine cone for a good forty minutes while listening to this album

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 01:00 (eight months ago) link

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Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 01:03 (eight months ago) link

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Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 01:03 (eight months ago) link

Slightly bemused in general by the idea of Can being some sort of avatar of psychedelia when so much of their music is based on minimalism and avoidance of excess - yes, granted they've got the improvisational jamming aspect too. So "Mother Sky" has the wild acid rock guitar but listen to the bass and drums, where does that fit into 'psychedelia'?

― Frozen Mug (Tom D.)

file next to "pink floyd", i believe

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 04:27 (eight months ago) link

Obviously there is a divide in this thread about whether psychedelic is a feeling or a carved-in-stone genre signifier, but I just wanted to vouch on behalf of Smashing Pumpkins that the bassline in the second chorus of Rhinoceros does feel very "60s psych". It's got that walking "Hey Joe" quality.

☮️ (peace, man), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 13:02 (eight months ago) link

Cellophane Symphony by Tommy James and the Shondells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qNQXb18l8g

jonbenetsbody (sneaker_bomba), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 18:28 (eight months ago) link

classic example, love that record

budo jeru, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 02:34 (eight months ago) link

Country rock outfit Goose Greek Symphony open side two of their 1970 debut with this insane track..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TB-rvitI50

Stop the tape I got spittle all over my moustache. (Talcum Mucker), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:41 (eight months ago) link

Slightly bemused in general by the idea of Can being some sort of avatar of psychedelia when so much of their music is based on minimalism and avoidance of excess - yes, granted they've got the improvisational jamming aspect too. So "Mother Sky" has the wild acid rock guitar but listen to the bass and drums, where does that fit into 'psychedelia'?

― Frozen Mug (Tom D.)

file next to "pink floyd", i believe

― revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Monday, January 6, 2020 8:27 PM (two days ago)

The argument about Can's psychedelic aspect is totally understandable, but I think Tom's mention of minimalism as something separate is important. That's why I brought up the Velvet Underground, for their minimalism and their avant-garde aspects that were more from the art world and that predate psychedelia. So, I think that is true also not only of Can's minimalism, but their own avant-garde aspects. If "The Murder Mystery" is more art-world avant garde than it is psychedelic, than surely "Mother Upduff" is, too.

timellison, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:35 (eight months ago) link

I've always thought "Mother Upduff" sounds like it was inspired by the Mothers' "Help, I'm a Rock". An aside there.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:45 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, another band in that mix. But you could substitute "European Son" and "Father Cannot Yell" in my comparison.

timellison, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:51 (eight months ago) link

I know that I'm far from alone in finding that music psychedelic.
& that isn't going to change any time soon.

Stevolende, Thursday, 9 January 2020 00:16 (eight months ago) link

like i know there's this ongoing tension as to whether or not we're having this discussion seriously but to me "psychedelia" isn't this thing that magically appeared on haight street (or, you know, in texas) in 1966, i feel like it's a false dichotomy and that "minimalism" is an authentic part of the psychedelic movement, fuck i'd call the silver apples psychedelic as all hell. i just don't get the hair-splitting, i mean are there people here who want to argue whether or not "flight reaction" by the calico wall or "back seat '38 dodge" by opus i belong more to the worlds of "the avant-garde" or psychedelia? do "the murder mystery" and "what's become of the baby" not belong to the same genre because the bands fucking hated each other and didn't at all go to the same parties? i mean, where are we coming at this from?

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 January 2020 03:57 (eight months ago) link

There’s a solid connection between minimalism and psychedelia. The minimalists’ repetition and drones create unusual effects such as time dilation for the listener, the same way as do Indian ragas and other Eastern musics associated with psychedelia. Just consider Terry Riley. Lou Reed alludes to Eastern music’s repetition in an essay written in 1966: http://velvetforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=145408

Leftee, Thursday, 9 January 2020 06:50 (eight months ago) link

I know that I'm far from alone in finding that music psychedelic.
& that isn't going to change any time soon.

Kinda don't think the thread is about persuading you either way.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 January 2020 08:06 (eight months ago) link

Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden seems to bring out the more psychedelic side of that band, Switch Opens and She Likes Surprises especially.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 9 January 2020 12:58 (eight months ago) link

5 million elvis fans can't be wrong, the king is trippy as balls

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:34 (eight months ago) link

Interesting thing about Can is that they didn't use echo/delay and 'psychedelic' effects like stereo panning and phasing - apart from on "Tago Mago", which is why parts of that album sound kind of dated? In my opinion!

Not sure I agree with the premise here. While Tago Mago is where Can really went all out with studio effects, tracks like "Future Days," "Bel Air," and "Chain Reaction" variously use tremolo, phasing, hard panning, field recordings, etc and strike me as very psychedelic in a mellow, balmy way.

J. Sam, Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:35 (eight months ago) link

looool this thread, well done ilm. I came here to post Blondie's "Fade Away and Radiate," and "Shadow" by The Primitives, a trippy little bit of Indian-sounding psych amongst the pop punk nuggets of Lovely and find 200+ posts of harshed mellow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs6RLx8Jujo

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:13 (eight months ago) link

Not sure I agree with the premise here. While Tago Mago is where Can really went all out with studio effects, tracks like "Future Days," "Bel Air," and "Chain Reaction" variously use tremolo, phasing, hard panning, field recordings, etc and strike me as very psychedelic in a mellow, balmy way.

In a subtler, less corny way, for sure. By the way, "Chain Reaction" mellow and balmy, are you sure?

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:37 (eight months ago) link

i mean, where are we coming at this from?

evidently everywhere and nowhere at the same time

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:28 (eight months ago) link

There’s a solid connection between minimalism and psychedelia. The minimalists’ repetition and drones create unusual effects such as time dilation for the listener, the same way as do Indian ragas and other Eastern musics associated with psychedelia. Just consider Terry Riley.

I posted a Steve Reich piece upthread fwiw

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:30 (eight months ago) link

I totally take the idea that minimalism was significant to psychedelia from Butterfield Blues Band's "East-West" to Silver Apples, etc. But I don't believe the appeal of minimalism proper, Reich/Glass etc., was altogether to do with its psychedelic aspect. I think there's an element of it that maybe comes more from 20th century moves away from composer-dominated content, starting in music with serialism and into Cage and which you see in other art forms (surrealist techniques, abstract painting, etc.). And if I'm thinking about Reich's Four Organs, my base-level analysis of what kind of music it is would not be to say, "It's psychedelic music" (though it may have some commonality).

Similarly, one wouldn't say that Kurt Schwitters or Andre Breton were psychedelic writers. This colors my view of things like "European Son" and "Father Cannot Yell" in spite of the fact that one could rightly say that they are not dissimilar to "What's Become of the Baby." I definitely believe that there was an element of the Velvet Underground, and maybe Can too, that was intentionally NOT psychedelic. Is that not why the second and third VU albums had black and white covers? Is that not why "every color is bad???"

timellison, Thursday, 9 January 2020 19:41 (eight months ago) link

"That's what Jaki said"

timellison, Thursday, 9 January 2020 19:43 (eight months ago) link

This is precisely what, for me, distinguishes the cover of Monster Movie from, say, a Hawkwind album cover.

timellison, Thursday, 9 January 2020 19:46 (eight months ago) link

We had a thread recently where we were discussing how the Dead & VU were different, despite their similarities (or something).

Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Thursday, 9 January 2020 19:52 (eight months ago) link

I think They Might be Giants must fit into this, something like "See the Constellation" or "I'll Be Haunting You" scans as psych-rock to me which they are definitely not as a whole

frogbs, Thursday, 9 January 2020 20:02 (eight months ago) link

"Where Do They Make Balloons?"

timellison, Thursday, 9 January 2020 20:15 (eight months ago) link

https://youtu.be/c9zG0mRvmaE

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:19 (eight months ago) link

^^ pastoral psychedelia

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:21 (eight months ago) link


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