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I always thought he was so full of potential, shame to see him go so young. Lucid Dreams seems too on the nose to hear as his biggest hit right now.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

seriously disturbing how many of these rap stars are dying so young

10,000 mani-gecs (voodoo chili), Sunday, 8 December 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link

Yeah I just saw someone say the Mount Rushmore of emo rap are already dead and even though I’ve never been too big in the scene, it made me quite sad to think, well, yeah

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 8 December 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

the only soundcloud megastar to avoid a) death, or b) committing terrible crimes is lil uzi, and he is tied up in a messed up label situation that's prevented him from following up his 2017 album

10,000 mani-gecs (voodoo chili), Sunday, 8 December 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link

horrifying

dyl, Monday, 9 December 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link

rip juice. so sad how often this is happening lately to young talented rising artists. 🖤

— nope (@LilNasX) December 8, 2019

i usually deal with my sad times in private because i don’t like for my fans or family to feel sorry for me. this year had a lot of very high ups and extremely low downs. when u get to that hotel room and it’s just you, you do a lot of thinking. small things become so BIG.

— nope (@LilNasX) December 8, 2019

i like to pretend hate and shit don’t get to me, but subconsciously it eats away at me. feeling like u have the world and knowing it can all go away at any time is scary. with all this being said i want anybody who cared enough to read this to just live in the moment. love u guys

— nope (@LilNasX) December 8, 2019

dyl, Monday, 9 December 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link

musicians(/artists) have been overdosing since the beginning of time... i think some of the more histrionic takes right now are a little myopic. but anyone who knows solo touring musicians knows that it puts your mental health in a very precarious place, even if you're a mature adult with a decent support system in place. one thing i do think you can say about this era is that when touring/club appearances are the way to make money bcuz the monetary value of the music has hit rock bottom, artists are being incentivized to travel the world nonstop to squeeze money out while they're hot. (there's also a social media/clout aspect to living and documenting this kind of lifestyle.) avicii wasn't an emo rapper but his story seems just as pertinent to me.

J0rdan S., Monday, 9 December 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

agreed re: avicii

dyl, Monday, 9 December 2019 04:19 (four years ago) link

the older I get, it's just so heartbreaking knowing how young they are, who knows where they would have gone? either musically or just found another path in life outside the industry

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

21 is insanely young. i am 9 years older than that and i have grown so much in that time. this is fucked.

treeship., Monday, 9 December 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

recreational drugs are trash

treeship., Monday, 9 December 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMkgbGDXxQ

Fried Egg Sandwich, Monday, 9 December 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-juice-wrld-guards-arrested-20191209-sfhqe3cns5hsffhxskrhqfagl4-story.html

The search turned up 41 “vacuum-sealed” bags of marijuana, six bottles of prescription codeine cough syrup, two 9 mm pistols, a .40-caliber pistol, a high-capacity ammunition magazine and metal-piercing bullets, according to the law enforcement sources. Two men identified by police as working security for Higgins were charged with illegally possessing the guns and ammunition.

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 9 December 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link

Kids today.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIzgiclddlM

what's the 27 club / we ain't makin' it past 21

along with a few of his biggest hits, one of his tracks to be inevitably rocketing up the streaming charts in the immediate aftermath of the young artist's death as fans (and curious non-fans) look for significance or premonition in his words and output while he was alive

dyl, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

the most horrendous "kids today"-inducing moment i witnessed was an ellie goulding st*n account on twitter celebrating that her song "hate me", a collaboration with juice, would now be seeing a new peak on the charts

dyl, Monday, 9 December 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

https://www.vulture.com/2019/12/juice-wrld-death-loss-of-another-rap-generation.html

it's weird to me to see pieces like this lamenting the narratives around drug use, death, criminality, marginalized communities etc and not a single word about the self-perpetuating and deeply embedded industry and audience dynamic centered around "authenticity" and, by extension, artists' suffering. No discussion about how audiences require artists to race-to-the-bottom to embody "realness", that desire to alternately live vicariously or see your own struggles reflected in artists and their work, acting as an extra incentive for artists to dive headlong into living out self-destructive, stereotypical behavior - to be the most "real" depressed, drug addicted, delusional criminal possible. Like how do you talk about these artists and *not* acknowledge that the narrative hook that gets them attention is how "dangerous" or damaged they are, that that is what their selling point is in the market.... I'm not assigning blame here or anything, it's a fucked up dynamic, it just seems strange to not acknowledge it.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

and of course black artists have always been marketed as "dangerous" in American culture, the racial angle here cannot be overstated - black artists are economically incentivized to play into this dynamic, which can come at great personal cost

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

big pharma probably loves this dynamic

omar little, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

they totally do, it's been working gangbusters for them since the... 50s?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

I mean, Johnny Cash springs to mind...

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

I don't think it's any coincidence that the switch from booze/weed (and occasionally coke and sizzurp) to these way more dangerous and addictive substances coincided with Clinton-era deregulation of the pharma industry.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

Just annoying that that article emphasizes how we need to talk about the big picture and then totally misses the bigger picture, which is m/l late-capitalist corporate culture literally feeding on young black people.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

And Tom Petty.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

counterpoint: Prince

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

(the two recent deaths I regularly mourn the most tbh. I am old)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

i mean people were doing heroin and crack before that

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

young people do less drugs than they used to funnily enough. the majority of drug deaths are in the 30-60 age range or thereabouts. problem is these soundcloud rappers are literally doing fentanyl, benzos and drinking which is just a great way to stop your heart.

#FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

sure. but it wasn't Pfizer making money off that.

xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

Yeah, it was the CIA, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

lil nas x's posts on this are very heavy to me. I room with my TM precisely because if shit gets gnarly inside my skull, having another human being in the room takes enough of the edge off & provides a potential voice of sanity. guys who get enough money to always be in the room by themselves are often gonna be in bad company.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

TM?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

tourmates?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

tour manager, I imagine...

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

tour manager is correct.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

can you guys tell I have never toured lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

if I read this right, you can audition to go on the road with Bad Company right now!

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

I've been hearing so much Bad Company on the radio lately, multiple stations, I just assumed someone in the band died.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

wuh oh

really though Joan sounded very otm

(another non tourer here)

maffew12, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

good post Οὖτις

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

the hbo doc was good

had the thought this and the lil peep doc should be shown to teens to show the danger of drugs in excess but honestly they prob still make all leading up to dying look too cool

johnny crunch, Friday, 17 December 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link


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