here comes the AFRICAN GIANT / Burna Boy (2019)

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What's your favorite track on this afropop masterpiece?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Anybody 7
Killin Dem (f. Zlatan) 2
Secret (f. Jeremih & Serani) 2
On the Low 2
Blak Ryno (Skit) 1
Dangote 1
Gum Body (f. Jorja Smith) 1
Pull Up 1
African Giant 0
Gbona 0
Show & Tell (f. Future) 0
This Side (f. YG) 0
Different (f. Damian Marley & Angelique Kidjo) 0
Destiny 0
Another Story (f. M.anifest) 0
Collateral Damage 0
Omo 0
Wetin Man Go Do 0
Spiritual 0


rob, Sunday, 1 December 2019 15:46 (one year ago) link

This album deserves its own thread, plus I'm genuinely curious what will win here--I have no idea what I'll be voting for.

rob, Sunday, 1 December 2019 15:48 (one year ago) link

too hard. AotY

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Sunday, 1 December 2019 16:15 (one year ago) link

otm x2

rob, Sunday, 1 December 2019 16:21 (one year ago) link

"on the low" is still my favourite

ufo, Monday, 2 December 2019 00:07 (one year ago) link

impossible, but my gut is leaning towards the obvious here (anybody)

jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Monday, 2 December 2019 00:10 (one year ago) link

Probably not voting for it but I was surprised no one mentioned Destiny in the other thread

Heez, Monday, 2 December 2019 01:07 (one year ago) link

gotta go with 'anybody'

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Monday, 2 December 2019 05:56 (one year ago) link

Anybody is pretty undeniable. A few months ago Secret would have been my immediate choice. Tempted by Dangote and after the npr tiny desk thing I have Wetin Man Go Do stuck in my head bad

rob, Monday, 2 December 2019 14:11 (one year ago) link

anybody is my real answer but i’m voting for gum body

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 December 2019 14:13 (one year ago) link

this whole album is fantastic, but anybody is the best song of the year.

jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Monday, 2 December 2019 20:56 (one year ago) link

next five after nobody something like this

gum body
killen dem
dangote
pull up
secret

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Monday, 2 December 2019 23:48 (one year ago) link

title track is dope too

jacquees, full of cobras (voodoo chili), Monday, 2 December 2019 23:51 (one year ago) link

Jorja Smith f. Burna “Be Honest” has really grown on me too

rob, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 02:22 (one year ago) link

every time one of these tracks comes up on my playlist it's the best track, "Gum Body" takes some beating but then yeah the title track

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 7 December 2019 16:01 (one year ago) link

on the low is one of my favs still

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 7 December 2019 22:15 (one year ago) link

The real answer is Gbona but it came out so much time before the album that it feels previously released (that's the digital age for you), so as a 2019 release I would still say the one with which I discovered the album, namely Killin Dem, because it begins so raw and grows so hypnotic. But I don't disagree with my fellow voters, there are many highlights in these 19 tracks.

Nabozo, Sunday, 8 December 2019 16:09 (one year ago) link

I voted for Anybody, but this is easily my album of the year.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 8 December 2019 19:00 (one year ago) link

between this and kehlani's for me

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Monday, 9 December 2019 22:48 (one year ago) link

voted for Dangote as it sounds like Anybody is sure to win and I love getting the Dangote lyrics (or my fucked up mental approximation of them) in my head

rob, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 14:07 (one year ago) link

I learnt at work yesterday that Dangote is a Nigerian company that sold everything from groceries and clothing to now moving to cement and oil production in the Delta, and that mister Dangote is now the richest man in Africa.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:38 (one year ago) link

Their commercials are all over CNN!

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:57 (one year ago) link

dangote is my favourite too

tony blair electric chair (||||||||), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 20:21 (one year ago) link

Voting deadline fast approaching and I still haven’t made up my mind.

I was lucky enough to see Burna live in Amsterdam in October (in the biggest venue for an Afropop act so far) and can confirm: literally all of these tracks are anthems. The crowd lapped it up, and he was all smiles all the time. Nothing Tiny Desk about it at all!

So I’m more or less following Nabozo’s reasoning: “Gbona” and “On The Low” (no matter how gigantic they are still) are out, they were 2018 EOY material. So another one of the 9 (!) tracks that have had the video treatment so far? “Anybody”, “Gum Body”, and yes!!!! “Killin Dem” (again, yes!!!) are all worthy. And then there’s “Spiritual”, still my favourite of the deep cuts.

Still some time left...

breastcrawl, Monday, 16 December 2019 20:04 (one year ago) link

(and yes, AOTY, no question)

breastcrawl, Monday, 16 December 2019 20:05 (one year ago) link

voted Anybody but so many of these tracks are better than a lot of other stuff i was into this year.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 16 December 2019 20:36 (one year ago) link

Spiritual is awesome. I might have already said this on the other thread, but I love how Outside ends with that line about his mother worrying about him ending up like Vybz Kartel, and then this one ends with a clip of her accepting a BET award for him

rob, Monday, 16 December 2019 20:47 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 00:01 (one year ago) link

was just getting into this and he drops a history lesson :D

wasn't sure about the first few tracks but there's a shift in mood to something more melancholy and rounded about 1/3 of the way in ('gum body' might be that moment), and i really dig the more guitar-led stuff

imago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:16 (one year ago) link

it is a little funny to have learned about Unilever's colonial history from this album

rob, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:20 (one year ago) link

it sort of feels like he had to frontload a few more conventional bangers before getting into the deeper message of what he wanted to say - is this a fair criticism? maybe it's just taken a few tracks for me to get in the mood lol

imago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:23 (one year ago) link

I'd be a little surprised if that impression continued for multiple listens, if for no other reason than Anybody seems close to the consensus favorite around here. Also, Wetin Man Go Do has that same vibe if I'm understanding your take. For me this album is 100% killer with one exception: "This Side" and only because of YG).

Agreed on the guitar though--I've been idly thinking about starting a thread for guitar in contemporary non-rock production. I feel like a surprisingly large number of my favorite tracks this year have guitar in them. Part of it is the highlife/afrobeat legacy resurfacing in Nigerian and Nigerian-influenced stuff, but it's still remarkable imo

rob, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:30 (one year ago) link

yeah start that thread! there's some really lovely work here.

oh look here's future, guess the spell's broken ;)

based on almost the whole album, will vote for one of the tracks in that run from 'gum body', or 'different'

imago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:35 (one year ago) link

Yes to the highlife-y guitar, it's integrated so beautifully, production-wise. Always makes me happy cos I love that sound.

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:42 (one year ago) link

yeah i'm voting 'secret', that song is magical

imago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:02 (one year ago) link

but 'different' was a close second

imago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:03 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:01 (one year ago) link

<3 whoever voted for Blak Ryno

rob, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:38 (one year ago) link

Those are not the results I saw in my dream last night! There every song had received at least one vote, though I can’t tell you who came out on top. Voted for “Killin Dem” in the end myself.

Now treat yourselves to the Wizkid EP perhaps? It has Kel-P, and guitars!

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:25 (one year ago) link

More Burna, more Kel-P, plus de... Dadju:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwEyHYGIO80
“Donne moi l’accord”

breastcrawl, Monday, 23 December 2019 21:27 (one year ago) link

I wasn’t aware of this afrobeat track, from Queen & Slim: The Soundtrack that came out last month:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGcQOyNqmyQ
Burna Boy • My Money, My Baby

But in somewhat bigger news: a brand new single for Christmas with a distinctly different sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RCFHekqPaI
Burna Boy • Money Play

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 22:53 (one year ago) link

dig all three of these.

championship winning vibration (Spottie), Friday, 27 December 2019 03:41 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

Video #10 is for “Secret”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZcmBH7PnSM

Dedicating it to longneck.

breastcrawl, Saturday, 25 January 2020 19:00 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGL1JoC2IaQ
👌🏼

||||||||, Saturday, 25 January 2020 19:58 (one year ago) link

^^^ oh hey i coengine33red this song! recorded b3urna's ho3ok a cpl months ago. happy to see it released so soon

lumen (esby), Saturday, 25 January 2020 20:48 (one year ago) link

This song is apparently a month old but I only heard it today. It's an absolute banger.

Nappy & Burna Boy - Aye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCXjRUasA48

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:22 (one year ago) link

that's awesome, esby, good work!

xp

love the nappy track. such a bop - burna can do no wrong rn

||||||||, Monday, 3 February 2020 21:53 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hardly any discussion here about the “Money Play” single Burna dropped last Xmas. It has definitely grown on me, but it still feels like a bit of a hiccup in his imperial phase.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:29 (one year ago) link

Anyway, I made a pseudo-pan-African-pop/not-pop playlist for the rolling afro 2020 thread and all Afro-adjacent threads, generously defined. It’s already 108 tracks deep, so enjoy!

ILM rolling✳️all-inclusive✳️afro 2020

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:30 (one year ago) link

Naughty By Nature (ft. Naughty By Nature)

Matt DC, Friday, 14 August 2020 08:01 (eight months ago) link

Chris Martin is a bullet I'm not looking forward to biting, guess I'll tell myself it could be worse, could've been Allbran or somebody

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 August 2020 08:12 (eight months ago) link

Sheeran's going to be furious.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 August 2020 08:22 (eight months ago) link

listening again and there is a second diddy interjection that i completely missed the first time through

honestly sheeran is a far less obnoxious vocal presence than martin, if some british white guy had to show up he'd be far from my first choice but the result would probably have been more tolerable

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 08:58 (eight months ago) link

I told Burna I did a song with Coldplay
Next thing I know he got a song with Coldplay

triggercut, Friday, 14 August 2020 09:10 (eight months ago) link

Very good album. I can't imagine I'll end up liking it as much as African Giant, but that's not a knock, AG is genius.

I was nervous about the guests...rightly so. Martin does suck, but tbrr I don't know if that song would be much better with [yr fav] on it--though thanks to dog latin, I did briefly wonder if Chronixx could have made it work--it has my least favorite Burna vocals too. I have never liked Sauti Sol very much, so those two back to back are a serious lull for me, curious if Sol fans like that one more. It's not ruinous, but the absolute wrong Stormzy shows up, all slow and moody, a missed opportunity though I quite like the women singing backup on that (see also Bank On It; swapping out all the guests for women would be an interesting exercise). Still, there's a happy surprise: Naughty by Nature sound kinda leftfield great, and as ufo mentioned Diddy's presence is not too distracting.

Anyway, even if you outright delete all the guest tracks (though no need to cut N'Dour), you end up with a strong collection, at least on par with Outside, maybe a little better once I listen more.

rob, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:22 (eight months ago) link

yeah i'm not sure this feels like an endless parade of hits in the way that african giant did but it's still very good. i like the sauti sol track a lot, i've only heard a few of their tracks before but they've always been enjoyable. "naughty by nature" works despite its weird concept and i completely agree about stormzy being a wasted opportunity. even ignoring martin i think "monsters you made" is the worst track on this

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:28 (eight months ago) link

i looove that synth outro in "way too big"

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:31 (eight months ago) link

even ignoring martin i think "monsters you made" is the worst track on this

otm, I almost wish he'd leaned all the way into the "message song" vibe and gotten Bono

rob, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:32 (eight months ago) link

Is Monsters You Made a deliberate Dirty Diana lift or just a coincidence?

Matt DC, Friday, 14 August 2020 17:38 (eight months ago) link

it's deliberate, mj is a credited writer on it

ufo, Friday, 14 August 2020 22:49 (eight months ago) link

all the select tracks i've tried so far are quite good. looking forward to digging in deeper.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 15 August 2020 03:11 (eight months ago) link

Album is pleasant and competent, it maintains nice vibes, but it is seriously lacking innovation, energy and hits, and good feats as it has been said. He's not in front of these songs as he was in Outside / African Giant. 23 is one of the few standouts along with Wonderful, Onyeka and the too-short Alarm Clock (one could dream of a free-jazzy / funky Burna Boy album). I hate that generic trumpeting party sound in Way Too Big, it ruins the song. I don't think I'll spin this a lot.

Nabozo, Saturday, 15 August 2020 06:24 (eight months ago) link

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gq-hype/article/burna-boy-interview-2020

weird sequencing here leads to a smattering of garbage tracks throughout imo but there's a lot to enjoy. African Giant never quite clicked for me; this may make me go back to it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 10:34 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I think I've landed on an 8-song version of this that I like quite a lot if not as much as African Giant (the other 7 range from not-bad-but-unremarkable to terrible):

Bebo
Wonderful
Onyeka (Baby)
Comma
No Fit Vex*
23
Wetin Dey Sup
Bank On It

* Spotlight on this, which is really good and doesn't sound much like past BB. I could dig a groovier, sunnier, wavier set that sounded like this and Wonderful.

So basically cut everything with a feature (sometimes Naughty By Nature sounds like goofy fun to me and sometimes like an awkward misfire), plus I find that opening run kind of ponderous. If you add Money Play and Odogwu, you'd have a strong back-to-back album imo.

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:48 (eight months ago) link

(one could dream of a free-jazzy / funky Burna Boy album)

I would also be here for this (pretty improbable) imaginary album. I rewatched his Tiny Desk last night, and it would be cool to hear him collaborate with a band.

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:50 (eight months ago) link

i've decided twice as tall suffers from a lack of kel-p vibes

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 17:56 (eight months ago) link

i like twice as tall a lot an am not clear why people dislike it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 19:50 (eight months ago) link

it lacks edge
not bad though

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:04 (eight months ago) link

it's still good, i just prefer the sonic palette of african giant a bit more (and the guest stars on that album blend in a lot better)

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:17 (eight months ago) link

I def wouldn't say I dislike it. In fact, "weird sequencing here leads to a smattering of garbage tracks throughout imo but there's a lot to enjoy" is really close to how I would put it!

African Giant is a personal fave and part of why is that right off the bat I loved it and couldn't stop playing it, so this inevitably feels a little disappointing

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:31 (eight months ago) link

"Naughty by Nature" rules, improbably

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:32 (eight months ago) link

my fav guest spot on the album by a long shot

whiney on the moon (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:53 (eight months ago) link

smattering of garbage tracks

i don't disagree with you here but it's interesting that opinions on what constitutes the garbage tracks vary so widely.
FWIW, I skip alarm clock, way too big, comma, Bank on it and the godawful chris martin feature which i still have not heard all the way through yet

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:54 (eight months ago) link

the pat boone (?!?!?!?!) sample combined with timbo/djds production and a solid vocal turn from n'dour make 'level up' the most unlikely song i love this year

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 20:58 (eight months ago) link

Yeah might be letting my “the guests are unwelcome” thesis overdetermine my ears on that one

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 21:26 (eight months ago) link

Just played this from the start and enjoyed all three opening tracks and NBN...probably just need to let the whole thing marinate a little

rob, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 23:31 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

new track in response to the Lekkimassacre:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68rvZWARzew
Burna Boy • 20 10 20

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Sunday, 1 November 2020 19:19 (six months ago) link

...the Lekki massacre...

Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Sunday, 1 November 2020 19:21 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUtZB0foy_4

just sayin, Thursday, 17 December 2020 22:05 (four months ago) link

that’s “No Be Water” by Burna with Praiz and Vector.

it’s actually a 2015 release in the so-called Hennessy Artistry series (Hennessy Nigeria paying artists to come up with a booze-friendly anthem basically). the year before they had paired up Wizkid and 2Baba for “Dance Go (Eau de Vie)”.

two months pass...

burna winning the grammy for "Best Global Music" over anoushka shankar and bebel gilberto is a strange sort of victory

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 14 March 2021 22:30 (one month ago) link

calls for a new thread! here comes the AFRICAN GRAMMY / Burna Boy (2021)

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 March 2021 06:57 (one month ago) link

burna frankly should have been in the best rock album imo

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 March 2021 14:38 (one month ago) link

The Grammys are so bad and hated even Drake knows what's up: "I think we should stop allowing ourselves to be shocked every year by the disconnect between impactful music and these awards. And just accept that what once was the highest form of recognition may no longer matter to the artists that exist now and the ones that come after."

At least we'll be spared more cringey lyrics from BB about losing now

rob, Monday, 15 March 2021 14:45 (one month ago) link

At least we'll be spared more cringey lyrics from BB about losing now

be careful what you wish for

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 15 March 2021 14:47 (one month ago) link

I did specify "losing"

rob, Monday, 15 March 2021 14:51 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

the brand-new single is highly enjoyably brash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h81_XRvVxQc

(no Grammys were mentioned during the making of this track*)

produced by Chopstix

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:35 (one week ago) link

*thought he might be mentioning 'piano' tho, but no: no dey sweet, I be Alomo Bitters

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 29 April 2021 19:36 (one week ago) link

yooo that bangs

rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 00:43 (one week ago) link

nice one!

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 30 April 2021 08:03 (one week ago) link

there's a video now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKv5CBr-kKo

this is such a great style for him, really thrilled by this

rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:23 (one week ago) link

yah i think i like this more than anything off his last album.

video pays homage to some classic busta rhymes videos.

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 30 April 2021 21:48 (one week ago) link

yah i think i like this more than anything off his last album.

I hadn't quite had that thought yet, but I think you're otm

I also just noticed this only 2:16, which is why I'm like "wha?" every time it ends

rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 22:00 (one week ago) link

i liked twice as tall on the whole but yah this is in a different zone

funny tho my fav song off that album was also about ~2:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny4curtenuk

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 30 April 2021 22:24 (one week ago) link

ftr “KIlometre” is an extra 17 secs on streaming

rob, Friday, 30 April 2021 23:31 (one week ago) link

this is so so def. hope the next album will be called Grammy Off My Chest and will sound accordingly, like “Kilometre” does

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 12:29 (one week ago) link

extremely pleased to wake up with this in my head. I've never felt so good about the metric system

rob, Saturday, 1 May 2021 13:11 (one week ago) link

...and British spelling!

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 13:15 (one week ago) link


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