Wherein We Vote for Our Favourite Classical Compositions of… the 1810s

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Anton Reicha - Wind Quintet in E-flat major, Op. 88/2 (1817)
Carl Maria von Weber - Clarinet Concerto No. 1 in F minor, Op. 73 (1811)
Carl Maria von Weber - Clarinet Concerto No. 2 in E-flat major, Op. 74 (1811)
Fernando Sor - Introduction and Variations on a Theme by Mozart, Op. 9 (1819)
Franz Schubert - Symphony No. 3 in D major, D. 200 (1815)
Franz Schubert - Erlkönig, D. 328 (1815)
Franz Schubert - Symphony No. 5 in B-flat major, D. 485 (1816)
Franz Schubert - Der Tod und das Mädchen, D. 531 (1817)
Franz Schubert - An die Musik, D. 547 (1817)
Franz Schubert - Piano Sonata in A major, D. 664 (1819)
Franz Schubert - Piano Quintet in A major, D. 667 (1819)
Gioachino Rossini - L’Italiana in Algeri (1813)
Gioachino Rossini - Tancredi (1813)
Gioachino Rossini - Il barbiere di Siviglia (1816)
Johann Nepomuk Hummel - Piano Sonata No. 5 in F-sharp minor, Op. 81 (1819)
Johann Nepomuk Hummel - Piano Concerto No. 2 in A minor, Op. 85 (1816)
Johann Nepomuk Hummel - Piano Concerto No. 3 in B minor, Op. 89 (1819)
Louis Spohr - Clarinet Concerto No. 2 in E-flat major, Op. 57 (1810)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Fidelio, Op. 72 (1803-1814)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Piano Concerto No. 5 in E-flat major, Op. 73 (1809-1811)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 26 in E-flat major, ‘Les Adieux’, Op. 81a (1809-1810)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 27 in E minor, Op. 90 (1814)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No. 7 in A major, Op. 92 (1812)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No. 8 in F major, Op. 93 (1812)
Ludwig van Beethoven - String Quartet No. 11 in F minor, Op. 95 (1810)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Violin Sonata No. 10 in G major, Op. 96 (1812)
Ludwig van Beethoven - An die ferne Geliebte, Op. 98 (1816)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major, Op. 101 (1816)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Cello Sonata No. 4 in C major, Op. 102/1 (1815)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Cello Sonata No. 5 in D major, Op. 102/2 (1815)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 29 in B-flat major, Op. 106 (1818)
Luigi Cherubini - Requiem in C minor (1816)
Niccolò Paganini - 24 Caprices for Solo Violin (1802-1817)


pomenitul, Thursday, 7 November 2019 08:54 (five days ago) link

Cool. I enjoyed the first batch, so started listening, and before I knew it I had a Spotify playlist again! ( https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3SOnXSymRFa1sIQb2vyla5 ) Can easily substitute recordings in response to recommendations...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:12 (five days ago) link

Thanks, Nag! I'll suggest a few recordings as soon as I can.

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:16 (five days ago) link

Erlkönig is my favourite

Joe Kulak 😎 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:22 (five days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaBNUzVSnj8

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:28 (five days ago) link

Inclination toward my beloved piano sonata op. 101 or my obsessed-over op. 109

But fucking erlkonig

And also tempting to garland the caprices for enabling Liszt

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 7 November 2019 12:45 (five days ago) link

voted hammerklavier, though obviously the trout quintet is a good one as well

i'll let everyone else be challopsy

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:32 (five days ago) link

The Op. 102 Cello Sonatas are underrated af. Rostropovich/Richter is all time, but I go back to Miklós Perényi and András Schiff more often.

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:35 (five days ago) link

But yeah, the non-challopsy pick is definitely the Hammerklavier imo.

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:36 (five days ago) link

(Pollini's recording, of course.)

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:37 (five days ago) link

It's a silly reason, but I have to vote for An Die Ferne Geliebte. I can't get over how masterfully it's used in Jessica Hausner's Amour Fou.

Frederik B, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:38 (five days ago) link

An die ferne Geliebte is a perfectly respectable choice, Fred.

On an unrelated note, I wonder what Sund4r makes of the Fernando Sor.

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:40 (five days ago) link

The adagio of Piano Concerto No. 5 is pretty much my favourite music right now.

jmm, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:41 (five days ago) link

x-post: Yeah, but I just love it because it's used for what's basically cringe comedy in one of my favorite films :)

Frederik B, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:41 (five days ago) link

(Pollini's recording, of course.)

― pomenitul

sure but schnabel's is worth listening to for the contrast at least

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:44 (five days ago) link

Oh, definitely. Schnabel's entire set is utterly fascinating from beginning to end.

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 November 2019 14:56 (five days ago) link

the piece isn't the best one on here, but there's still nothing like watching a virtuosic violinist perform 24 caprices.

kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:12 (five days ago) link

pollini is fine but my top 5 hammerklaviers are thus:

francois-frederic guy (his earlier 2006 one, not the one that's part of a complete cycle)
grigory sokolov (there's an mfsl remastering of this on the webs btw)
arrau
annie fischer
richter (london 1975)

sentimental shout out to Gould whose slow and not well recorded but totally riveting radio recording was my first (listened about 100x)

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:31 (five days ago) link

Fairly obvious choice but Il barbiere di Siviglia is an eternal delight.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:33 (five days ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-feS3WBjXKU

^definitive version

ogmor, Thursday, 7 November 2019 15:45 (five days ago) link

Is there a reason why Beethoven didn't write another string quartet for 15 years?

jmm, Thursday, 7 November 2019 16:03 (five days ago) link

Is there a reason why Beethoven didn't write another string quartet for 15 years?

― jmm

i seem to remember he got really committed to child abuse for a while there

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:23 (four days ago) link

richter (london 1975)

― valet doberman (Jon not Jon)

i like the one he recorded about a week prior to that, know if there are any significant differences?

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:32 (four days ago) link

oh and the rzewski recording with the cadenzas in is also pretty interesting...

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Friday, 8 November 2019 00:32 (four days ago) link

On an unrelated note, I wonder what Sund4r makes of the Fernando Sor.

I've never played it but I just listened to a couple of versions while following the score and I kind of want to. This performance by Ana Vidovic is really good imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaEcDgxm8es . (Listen to the Segovia if you want shred but it doesn't connect with me the same way, although it could just be feelings of inadequacy speaking.)

When we get to the 1830s, Fantaisie Elegiaque would be a definite contender for me. I love the "Marche Funebre" (which I do play).

I generally find Sor satisfying in all his stodgy formalism. He didn't especially push the envelope compositionally but he wrote clear, well-crafted expressive music in the classical idiom that flows well on the instrument. He works well with the source material here imo and I do like how he uses triplets and sextuplets.

No language just sound (Sund4r), Friday, 8 November 2019 03:29 (four days ago) link

Anyway, I'm actually leaning towards "Erlkönig" atm.

No language just sound (Sund4r), Saturday, 9 November 2019 20:50 (three days ago) link

Vidovic's performance is suitably unassuming, very much in keeping with Sor's classicism (which, incidentally, may be why I find his music enjoyable but overly guarded, as though La Folia had to be kept at bay).

I might just go with one of the Cello Sonatas – possibly my favourite works from the purgatorial period between his Middle and Late Styles (which I have likely just made up tbf).

pomenitul, Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:15 (two days ago) link

And if you're in a Paganini mood, Agustin Hadelich is a fucking terrific wild-eyed violonista.

pomenitul, Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:21 (two days ago) link

Sor's music is totally restrained and guarded, yeah, which is part of its elegance for me.

No language just sound (Sund4r), Sunday, 10 November 2019 23:23 (two days ago) link


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