Get your soul sanctified on the Kanye West JESUS IS KING thread

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it's out praise God

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:07 (three weeks ago) link

praise the lord jesus christ

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:09 (three weeks ago) link

i am def going to listen to this on my lunch break

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:10 (three weeks ago) link

woah one song is feat. Clipse and Kenny G which number one lol but also he must have got Malice out of retirement!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:13 (three weeks ago) link

ffs each subsequent release has worse sound quality

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:14 (three weeks ago) link

Truly the Dylan of our age.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:15 (three weeks ago) link

jim, while eating Chick-fil-a?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:39 (three weeks ago) link

pretty sure most people on ilm could have done a better job engineering this shit

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:42 (three weeks ago) link

dnftt

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:43 (three weeks ago) link

(the troll is Kanye)

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:43 (three weeks ago) link

jim, while eating Chick-fil-a?

― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, October 25, 2019 9:39 AM (nine minutes ago)

im a pescatarian, my friend in christ

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:50 (three weeks ago) link

That said, some of the tracks are in my New Music Friday playlist and my verdict is "Coldplay released better music today"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:56 (three weeks ago) link

also "Kanye I swear to the God you claim to have discovered, if you keep singing I'mma kick you in the autotune"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:56 (three weeks ago) link

btw the non-integration of Kenny G into this song is hilarious

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:57 (three weeks ago) link

This is actually good

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:15 (three weeks ago) link

Sorry to report. I think the loud mixing is on purpose—yeezus sounded like this too.

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:16 (three weeks ago) link

Well it purposely sounds like crap so they hit their mark there

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:20 (three weeks ago) link

lol im interested in this solely for the bad theology, but i dont actually wanna listen to his music anymore

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:20 (three weeks ago) link

I am not immune to liking things that baffle others; I still have fondness and regard for a couple of ICP albums, for example. Even so, the two songs off of this I heard were total bullshit and I have no interest in the rest of the album as a result.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:21 (three weeks ago) link

I am happy for kanye that he found solace in religion

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:22 (three weeks ago) link

Come on, djp “follow god” and “god is” are dope tracks

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:28 (three weeks ago) link

Objectively

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:28 (three weeks ago) link

dont do that

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:29 (three weeks ago) link

That's the RYM chart fucked for another year then

imago, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:29 (three weeks ago) link

"Follow God" is bullshit

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:31 (three weeks ago) link

Truly the Dylan of our age.

1st track is his "all the tired horses". but i'd say it's more of a GBV album, as it sounds like shit and most of the songs are unfinished.

wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:31 (three weeks ago) link

Objectively

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:32 (three weeks ago) link

Ok I got through this all for the first and last time . This is wack

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:32 (three weeks ago) link

That was a joke

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:32 (three weeks ago) link

I enjoy the tracks but there is no objective good and bad

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:32 (three weeks ago) link

In art. In other domains idk—bigger discussion

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:33 (three weeks ago) link

"Follow God" is muddled and boring. "Use This Gospel" is asymptotically approaching "objectively bad".

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:33 (three weeks ago) link

there is no objective good and bad

Dunno how King Jesus feels about that statement.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:34 (three weeks ago) link

Jesus didn’t talk a out aesthetics much

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:35 (three weeks ago) link

He was a writer, he once wrote something in the sand.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:35 (three weeks ago) link

Lol RYM hates this actually

imago, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:36 (three weeks ago) link

I am happy for kanye that he found solace in religion

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FP'd you for this

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:36 (three weeks ago) link

Needs more Killah Priest imo.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:38 (three weeks ago) link

Turnin the other cheek to that

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:38 (three weeks ago) link

This is like actually physically painful to listen to, at least with headphones

icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:40 (three weeks ago) link

I think this is better than his last album? (that I only listened once)

silverfish, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:41 (three weeks ago) link

I'm not sure it's particularly hard to top "poopity-scoop"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:42 (three weeks ago) link

"Hands On" is pretty painful

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:42 (three weeks ago) link

it's weird because there are AI mastering sites like landr.com that do a way better job than this that would have cost like $40.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:43 (three weeks ago) link

he just did the tracks and left the mastering in the hands of christ

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:45 (three weeks ago) link

lmaoooo

That's the RYM chart fucked for another year then

2.7 and dropping lmao

ye was a 3.2 for context

frogbs, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:46 (three weeks ago) link

just like ye this feels way longer than 27 minutes, please stop singing Mr. West

frogbs, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:46 (three weeks ago) link

it is almost delightful watching an entire generation of hipsters and nerds realising they backed the wrong horse

imago, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:48 (three weeks ago) link

I look forward to Pitchfork's review.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:49 (three weeks ago) link

jesus policing

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 13:39 (three weeks ago) link

What's Obama's take on the new one?

octobeard, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 17:35 (three weeks ago) link

That's a really great piece, thanks for sharing.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:22 (three weeks ago) link

Kanye says God rewarded him with $68 million tax refund for becoming born-again Christian: https://t.co/rUvvhztYZP #KanyeWest pic.twitter.com/ijfhcdaErD

— Consequence of Sound (@consequence) October 29, 2019

somehow this is the exact brand of Christianity I figured he was gonna practice

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:27 (three weeks ago) link

As has been true for the last few years with KW, the associated merch line adds the perfect note of hilarious lunacy. Not just because he made this shit and thinks it looks good, but because other people will buy it and swear that it does look good, and wear it in public where other people can see them.

New “Jesus Is King” merch available NOW‼️https://t.co/qWDAxx4QX8 pic.twitter.com/0rUCKxj9cQ

— Def Jam Recordings (@defjam) October 30, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:30 (three weeks ago) link

Graphic design and Jesus are my passions

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:34 (three weeks ago) link

okay lol

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:36 (three weeks ago) link

impressively that's a step well beyond anything he's done before with his merch

ufo, Thursday, 31 October 2019 03:05 (two weeks ago) link

only god can judge

frogbs, Thursday, 31 October 2019 14:42 (two weeks ago) link

and lo he rated it a 3.1 and there was much bewailing and gnashing of teeth thru thy wire

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:12 (two weeks ago) link

omg the sweatgarb!!!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2019 15:58 (two weeks ago) link

Deliberately bad to get our attention.

nashwan, Monday, 4 November 2019 16:14 (two weeks ago) link

I was at a bar Saturday night and the DJ played "Power" and "Through the Wire" and it kinda hit me that Kanye is sort of the Michael Jackson of this generation, I feel my kids are gonna ask me one day why this guy is so popular and I'll have to explain that he was actually very good once

frogbs, Monday, 4 November 2019 16:17 (two weeks ago) link

That is an interesting hypothesis, may I respond with a "what? fuck no"

I don't think this generation has a Michael Jackson but if it's anyone, I'd argue it's Chris Brown

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:12 (two weeks ago) link

If by Michael Jackson you mean "versatile successful male pop singer that appeals to kids" (but not in *that* way), then the answer is Bruno Mars.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:24 (two weeks ago) link

I am pretty sure he means "one-time dominant pop figure who has devolved into ridicule"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:30 (two weeks ago) link

("but still has a fervent fanbase who passionately defends any old bullshit s/he releases")

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:30 (two weeks ago) link

the difference is he's still a dominant figure in pop culture & if you're younger than 14 then you pretty much only know him as an increasingly erratic weirdo

frogbs, Monday, 4 November 2019 19:10 (two weeks ago) link

he's still a dominant figure in pop culture

This is a phrase you can define any way you want to, which means it's effectively meaningless. Does "dominant" mean "spawns hordes of imitators"? Does it mean "sells a lot of records" (hint: no, it does not)? Does it mean "journalists like to write about him"? If it's the latter, then forget about it, because the only people more resistant than music journalists to dropping their pre-existing narrative frameworks and allowing new information in are journalists covering US electoral politics. "Kanye West, dominant figure in pop culture" = "Reagan Democrat". It was true once upon a time, but quite a few years have passed and it's time to re-calibrate.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:25 (two weeks ago) link

He does sell a lot of records for modern standards. Pretty much every album he has released is at least Gold and he has several multi-platinum ones. The only album of his which can be considered a complete failure is Ye, although Jesus is King seems like it might be another one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:29 (two weeks ago) link

Does "dominant" mean "spawns hordes of imitators"? Does it mean "sells a lot of records" (hint: no, it does not)? Does it mean "journalists like to write about him"?

the answers to all of these questions is a definite yes.

kanye's career has lasted long enough and has been through enough phases that his acolytes come in many forms--J Cole directly springs from wholesome, soul-sampling kanye, and travis scott was a major beneficiary of the yeezus sound.

does he sell a lot of records? well, nobody does except taylor, adele, and tool. his new album is more-than-likely gonna debut at #1 when the Billboard 200 comes out this week.

and i'm pretty sure you know that journalists love writing about him.

kanye kendrick frank kendrick frank kanye (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:38 (two weeks ago) link

he sells a lot of sweatshirts, which inspired famous rapper earl sweatshirt

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:43 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxIvg0y6vCY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:44 (two weeks ago) link

he's also just a big figure in pop culture beyond music

yeezy shoes probably made more money than any rapper except Drake

he's also married to one of the biggest figures in pop culture

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:46 (two weeks ago) link

I am very angry about how many ass jokes popped into my head after reading M@tt's post

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 4 November 2019 20:56 (two weeks ago) link

I went to see the new Terminator and somehow the projector person skipped all of the previews, and then played the first eight minutes of this.

I was temporarily very confused as to the new direction of the franchise until I figured out what it was.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 November 2019 22:23 (two weeks ago) link

angry that you thought of them, or angry that you felt too polite to say them?

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 02:17 (two weeks ago) link

xpost

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 02:17 (two weeks ago) link

Oh shit I'm dying at that Designing Merch for Kanye vid.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:11 (two weeks ago) link

God I just watched that, amazing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:38 (two weeks ago) link

Is that the Dunkey video?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 03:51 (two weeks ago) link

I just showed my wife and she refused to believe it was real. So I showed her the merch site and she still thought it was fake. Then I showed her that while many of the items are sold out (!), the sock is still for sale, but she still didn't believe it. Then I put it in the checkout bin and the purchase prompt popped up, and then she believed. She's a believer.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:14 (two weeks ago) link

god is good!

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:18 (two weeks ago) link

He seems to have been heading in this direction since Life of Pablo and probably even Yeezus, but it's clear to me that whatever Kanye does musically from now on is going to be a front for a cynical attempt to sell expensive, badly designed merchandise. Each new album will be rushed, of poor quality, but have a recognisable aesthetic/mood so that hype beasts will buy whatever dumb sweatshirt he puts his name to.

triggercut, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:29 (two weeks ago) link

I might argue he’s been working that plan for much longer than you suggest

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:32 (two weeks ago) link

http://i.gifer.com/UCWX.gif

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 04:39 (two weeks ago) link

Well he did warn us that he wanted to be this generation’s Pablo Picasso.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 06:03 (two weeks ago) link

kanye doesn't come across as particularly cynical, if anything he comes across as very sincerely being into whatever he's trying to do no matter how half-baked or scatterbrained the execution is

ufo, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 06:40 (two weeks ago) link

I suspect the clothing design is shtick, but to me it's the visual design equivalent of his current music production.

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 13:12 (two weeks ago) link

xp absolutely otm

i tried to come up with a controp position about this record being good not bad but it's objectively fucking terrible

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 13:15 (two weeks ago) link

hallelujah

https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/kanye-west-new-album-jesus-is-born.html

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 14:28 (two weeks ago) link

xxp Kids still love Michael Jackson's music. His hits are in Beatles territory whatever weirdness/criminality he devolved into.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 15:31 (two weeks ago) link

Here it is, the sole authoritative review:

https://www.pluggedin.com/music-reviews/album/jesus-is-king

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:31 (two weeks ago) link

love the "objectionable content" section

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

I applaud you, kind sir :D

When a well-known artist embraces Jesus with passion and fervor, it can be hard to know how to respond. Is this for real? Is it a phase? Is it going to last? Is it a gimmick?

Otm!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

Kanye West’s laser-like focus on Jesus here is breathtaking. But Kanye suspects that some Christians may still have doubts about his sincerity—an experience it seems that he’s already had, according to the song “Hands On”: “What have you been hearin’ from the Christians?/They’ll be the first one to judge me/Make it feel like nobody love me.”

None of us can know whether Kanye will sustain his current level of Christian conviction in the years to come. But his earnest spiritual fervor is undeniable on Jesus Is King. On this album (and in the accompanying short film of the same name), Kanye West takes the spotlight off of himself and shines it unabashedly on Jesus Christ, proclaiming Him King and Savior.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled etc

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:35 (two weeks ago) link

Courtesy of the guy on the left:

https://www.pluggedin.com/about-us/adam-holz

Through our reviews, articles and discussions, we hope to spark intellectual thought, spiritual growth and a desire to follow the command of Colossians 2:8: "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ."

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:37 (two weeks ago) link

A few of these might be growers?

billstevejim, Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:20 (six days ago) link

Ron Howard voice: they weren’t

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:26 (six days ago) link


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