Get your soul sanctified on the Kanye West JESUS IS KING thread

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it's out praise God

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:07 (one year ago) link

praise the lord jesus christ

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:09 (one year ago) link

i am def going to listen to this on my lunch break

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:10 (one year ago) link

woah one song is feat. Clipse and Kenny G which number one lol but also he must have got Malice out of retirement!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:13 (one year ago) link

ffs each subsequent release has worse sound quality

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:14 (one year ago) link

Truly the Dylan of our age.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:15 (one year ago) link

jim, while eating Chick-fil-a?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:39 (one year ago) link

pretty sure most people on ilm could have done a better job engineering this shit

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:42 (one year ago) link

dnftt

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:43 (one year ago) link

(the troll is Kanye)

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 October 2019 16:43 (one year ago) link

jim, while eating Chick-fil-a?

― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, October 25, 2019 9:39 AM (nine minutes ago)

im a pescatarian, my friend in christ

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:50 (one year ago) link

That said, some of the tracks are in my New Music Friday playlist and my verdict is "Coldplay released better music today"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:56 (one year ago) link

also "Kanye I swear to the God you claim to have discovered, if you keep singing I'mma kick you in the autotune"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:56 (one year ago) link

btw the non-integration of Kenny G into this song is hilarious

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:57 (one year ago) link

This is actually good

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:15 (one year ago) link

Sorry to report. I think the loud mixing is on purpose—yeezus sounded like this too.

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:16 (one year ago) link

Well it purposely sounds like crap so they hit their mark there

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:20 (one year ago) link

lol im interested in this solely for the bad theology, but i dont actually wanna listen to his music anymore

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:20 (one year ago) link

I am not immune to liking things that baffle others; I still have fondness and regard for a couple of ICP albums, for example. Even so, the two songs off of this I heard were total bullshit and I have no interest in the rest of the album as a result.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:21 (one year ago) link

I am happy for kanye that he found solace in religion

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:22 (one year ago) link

Come on, djp “follow god” and “god is” are dope tracks

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:28 (one year ago) link

Objectively

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:28 (one year ago) link

dont do that

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:29 (one year ago) link

That's the RYM chart fucked for another year then

imago, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:29 (one year ago) link

"Follow God" is bullshit

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:31 (one year ago) link

Truly the Dylan of our age.

1st track is his "all the tired horses". but i'd say it's more of a GBV album, as it sounds like shit and most of the songs are unfinished.

wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:31 (one year ago) link

Objectively

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:32 (one year ago) link

Ok I got through this all for the first and last time . This is wack

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:32 (one year ago) link

That was a joke

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:32 (one year ago) link

I enjoy the tracks but there is no objective good and bad

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:32 (one year ago) link

In art. In other domains idk—bigger discussion

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:33 (one year ago) link

"Follow God" is muddled and boring. "Use This Gospel" is asymptotically approaching "objectively bad".

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:33 (one year ago) link

there is no objective good and bad

Dunno how King Jesus feels about that statement.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:34 (one year ago) link

Jesus didn’t talk a out aesthetics much

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:35 (one year ago) link

He was a writer, he once wrote something in the sand.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:35 (one year ago) link

Lol RYM hates this actually

imago, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:36 (one year ago) link

I am happy for kanye that he found solace in religion

― treeship., Friday, October 25, 2019 7:22 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

FP'd you for this

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:36 (one year ago) link

Needs more Killah Priest imo.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:38 (one year ago) link

Turnin the other cheek to that

treeship., Friday, 25 October 2019 17:38 (one year ago) link

This is like actually physically painful to listen to, at least with headphones

icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:40 (one year ago) link

I think this is better than his last album? (that I only listened once)

silverfish, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:41 (one year ago) link

I'm not sure it's particularly hard to top "poopity-scoop"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:42 (one year ago) link

"Hands On" is pretty painful

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:42 (one year ago) link

it's weird because there are AI mastering sites like landr.com that do a way better job than this that would have cost like $40.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:43 (one year ago) link

he just did the tracks and left the mastering in the hands of christ

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 25 October 2019 17:45 (one year ago) link

lmaoooo

That's the RYM chart fucked for another year then

2.7 and dropping lmao

ye was a 3.2 for context

frogbs, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:46 (one year ago) link

just like ye this feels way longer than 27 minutes, please stop singing Mr. West

frogbs, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:46 (one year ago) link

it is almost delightful watching an entire generation of hipsters and nerds realising they backed the wrong horse

imago, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:48 (one year ago) link

I look forward to Pitchfork's review.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:49 (one year ago) link

i didn't say it was "genius." my words were "actually kind of interesting."

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 17:20 (one week ago) link

The bright white light and emptiness reminded me of Roger Waters onstage, wandering outside the wall during "Comfortably Numb".

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 23 July 2021 17:23 (one week ago) link

tbf, treesh, your post wasn't that bad, just the straw that broke the camel's back this morning. though i genuinely don't believe Kanye has done anything even close to "kind of interesting" since Yeezus.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 July 2021 17:46 (one week ago) link

there's some clips of music floating around twitter

hope you like synth pads!

i genuinely don't believe Kanye has done anything even close to "kind of interesting" since Yeezus.

the life of pablo was an incoherent mess of an album but i'd easily give it "kind of interesting" and it still had some pretty good moments. it was very much the beginning of the end with kanye's quality control though

ufo, Friday, 23 July 2021 18:03 (one week ago) link

See TLOP was the last Kanye album I actually spent time trying to get a handle on, but I never could do it and thought it was really bad. I listened to Ye once, but basically gave up after that and never heard Jesus is King at all. The MAGA shit just sealed the deal that I don't even have to pretend to be interested in where he is right now, beyond hoping he is getting some level of professional help.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 July 2021 18:26 (one week ago) link

the life of pablo was an incoherent mess of an album but i'd easily give it "kind of interesting" and it still had some pretty good moments. it was very much the beginning of the end with kanye's quality control though

Same here. It's not a great album, but it's interesting with merit, and unless Kanye turns it around, it'll be the last one he's done that I'll play in its entirety.

birdistheword, Friday, 23 July 2021 19:10 (one week ago) link

I like that he's trying to say something. He hasn't found the words yet, though, as evidenced by the many long segments of him repeating the same koan over and over.

Musically, quite dull.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 23 July 2021 20:44 (one week ago) link

^^

which gets to the heart of my distaste for everything post Yeezus. the lyrics and rapping were always hit or miss, when not being outright cringeworthy. once the production fell off there was nothing worth listening for, ime.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 July 2021 20:52 (one week ago) link

his tracks now, actually Otis was the first time I really noticed, but they don't feel minimal rather undercooked. Everytime you make a song there's that initial germ of an idea - a little riff, or drum pattern, or brief melody, or sample, etc - but they need to be developed into an actual song, his stuff now just seems like he gets that little hint of an idea and says ok it's done that's the track

i think he is trying to separate himself from other hip-hop producers by making tracks that "show the seams" and frustrate listeners' expectations. not saying this is genius -- it could easily be seen as a cheap ploy for an "arty" or modernist effect. but that's why i think his stuff sounds like this now.

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:54 (one week ago) link

have you considered it doesn't mean anything, that he's just unable to finish things properly?

like the album "jesus is king" ends super abruptly in a way that feels insane and almost like a parody of everything that came before it.

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:55 (one week ago) link

i dropped into kanyetothe (always fun on a fake release date) and learned about this collab he did with Teenage Engineering that was supposedly in use last night.

https://lindynews.org/10131/entertainment/new-kanye-west-stem-players-leaked-online/

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 23 July 2021 21:57 (one week ago) link

i think the recent albums actually sound cool from a production standpoint and he attempts to grapple with difficult emotional terrain. the big problem is that many listeners are not going to extend patience and good will to him now for a whole bunch of reasons. i think these are fair and good reasons, honestly -- who cares about the travails of a narcissist with a persecution complex? much less one who supported trump? but these concerns aren't really him falling off as a producer or rapper.

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:57 (one week ago) link

i would never recommend "jesus is king" or "ye" to someone. but i have found them both to be rewarding listening experiences.

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 21:59 (one week ago) link

honestly I think that line of thinking, an army of writers, hangers on, starfuckers, online stans, insisting each half baked pinch loaf (to borrow a phrase) of an album, every 7-year-old with Photoshop level $300 t-shirt design, every horrid "HR Giger designing $49.99 JC Penney grandpa New Balances" Yeezys is actually profoundly terrible and propping up a very obviously sick man for profit and "content" for the social media gristmill

He can still be a great producer - he's still producing great records, but none for himself.

birdistheword, Friday, 23 July 2021 22:11 (one week ago) link

yeah, i see that too.

i felt like "jesus is king" was an interesting failure. like, it's a turn to christianity, there is an acknowledgement that narcissism has poisoned him, he wants to turn to a higher power. but then all he finds is this very american, i guess i would say degraded form of christianity that is just another way to worship the self. so he just finds the same old path again, the one that leads to despair.

i think of kanye as like robert lowell or something, creating artistic failures that reflect his own personal failures. but maybe he is less self-aware of this process? he skates around the idea that he is unhappy and that he is holding onto illusions. but he always seems to get close, i guess. there is enough hope in there to make the enterprise not totally grim.

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 22:12 (one week ago) link

xp

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 22:12 (one week ago) link

Matt consistently otm

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 July 2021 22:19 (one week ago) link

but yeah, squint, look at it from another angle, and he is just the hip hop version of trump. america has a long tradition of these kind of sloppy figures, these people who are at once abject and grandiose, who channel the fears and aspirations of the public, but this might just be a sick tradition. he gains nothing by believing himself to be a "genius" or a "prophet" (he's compared himself to st. paul). and like, america is a dumb country to the extent that we encourage people to take up similarly grand and unrealistic ideas about themselves.

treeship., Friday, 23 July 2021 22:21 (one week ago) link

KANYE WEST WILL MOVE THE RELEASE DATE OF DONDA TO AUGUST 6TH. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE ❤️ HE WANTS TO GIVE HIS FANS THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT WITHOUT RUSHING ANYTHING. HE LOVES YALL WITH ALL OF HIS HEART. GOD BLESS 🙏🏾 #DONDA #RESPECTFULLY

— Respectfully Justin (@JustinLaboy) July 24, 2021

... (Eazy), Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:04 (one week ago) link

It’s never coming out

frogbs, Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:16 (one week ago) link

it'll come out in a few months and still seem obviously unfinished

ufo, Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:28 (one week ago) link

Gap execs must be getting ulcers.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 24 July 2021 04:31 (one week ago) link

Chinese Dondacracy

“Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 July 2021 06:41 (one week ago) link

He and Lana Del Rey are in a race not to finish and release their new records.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 24 July 2021 12:49 (one week ago) link

Lana Del Rey?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 24 July 2021 16:18 (one week ago) link

They both missed recent album release deadlines.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 24 July 2021 17:14 (one week ago) link

LDR has released good albums in the past decade though.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 July 2021 18:58 (one week ago) link

Ok ok Yeezus and KSG were decent I admit it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 July 2021 19:04 (one week ago) link

The funny thing about that Kanye West Day thing is that the only source of it seems to be someone sending TMZ a pic of a certificate that he was presented backstage – it hasn't been announced or reported in local Atlanta media, etc. It's like they decided to do it on the DL, for his eyes only.

Max Ice (morrisp), Saturday, 24 July 2021 19:25 (one week ago) link

Yeezus was decent but the idea that kids see ghosts was especially interesting in some way is pure RYM brain

xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 24 July 2021 20:39 (one week ago) link

I agree but wanted to avoid the pitchforks. Imho Yeezus is the last thing he did worth anyone’s time.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 July 2021 20:46 (one week ago) link

He and Lana Del Rey are in a race not to finish and release their new records.

Speak to me more of this blessed paradise.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 July 2021 20:50 (one week ago) link

yeah i don't get at all why the reddit/rym/fantano etc. axis adores ksg so much, on rym it's got a higher rating than yeezus lol. it's not terrible but it's hardly some kind of masterpiece

lol rym also has ye above watch the throne? come on lol

ufo, Sunday, 25 July 2021 02:45 (six days ago) link

that's fucking insane

Setting up my turntables while the all ages rock show is still going pic.twitter.com/iSnEDATgar

— Ghostly (@ghostly) July 25, 2021

... (Eazy), Sunday, 25 July 2021 18:03 (six days ago) link

Living in the venue, you say? Masked, you say? Kanye is going full phantom
https://imaging.broadway.com/images/ipad-show-list-photo/w1470/102183-32.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:37 (six days ago) link

The phantom of the opera did it first

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:40 (six days ago) link

Lol I see TMZ made that same sort of observation in the article and here I was thinking I had made a good joke.

TMZ did it first.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:44 (six days ago) link

I have to be honest I find the idea of him living in the stadium hilarious if true.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:45 (six days ago) link

Do u have Josh muted? lol

ghost runner on first (morrisp), Sunday, 25 July 2021 19:46 (six days ago) link

Lol when I opened the thread his message was still not posted.

So both TMZ and Josh did it first lol

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 25 July 2021 20:21 (six days ago) link

wtflollllllllll

maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 25 July 2021 20:30 (six days ago) link

Honestly this rocks - kanye living in a stadium and wearing the same clothes for days, haven't listened to any of donda, don't know if I will

This man is a content creator

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 26 July 2021 01:24 (five days ago) link


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