Sault - What's the story?

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Album is here -

Just from the first track I can detect traces of ESG, The Jellies, The Dixie Cups & Holland–Dozier–Holland era Motown if it had been produced by Norman Whitfield. The production is timeless but state of the art at the same time. Ace songwriting.

My inner cynic reckons with the smart low key underground anti-marketing it is going to end up that Sault are some long time music business insiders, the album will eventually get a full release on say XL with a massive marketing push and it'll end up being thee essential album of 2020. Or not. But whatever, it doesn't detract from it being a great record.

stirmonster, Monday, 16 September 2019 20:42 (one year ago) link

I hate that the vinyl sold out like in a day and I was constantly checking if a release date was published. The whole willful obscurity of the project is frustrating but I guess it’s working. I heard Danger Mouse was involved but that might be fake.

Music wise I posted in the songs of summer 2019 thread that I absolutely love the combination of northern soul vocals + krautrock styled drums.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 20:58 (one year ago) link

i think vinyl is still available from here -

stirmonster, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:00 (one year ago) link

It's groovy, but I'm not really hearing the ace songwriting.

#YABASIC (morrisp), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:02 (one year ago) link

i guess it comes down to what kind of song writing you dig?

stirmonster, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:04 (one year ago) link

Xpost: Huh that’s weird last time I checked they were sold out! I guess they restocked, thank you for the heads up, already ordered.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:07 (one year ago) link

People on discogs were selling them for twice or thrice the price which I thought was ridiculous as a second print was surely around the corner.

I see two sellers still have it for 50 pounds.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:11 (one year ago) link

Oh I see there’s snippets of a new album called 7 on their instagram account and it also sounds great. Seriously who are behind this project? I can’t find anything on them only name I see attached is Dean Inflo Josiah which is also very obscure on info and... maybe an alias of another artist?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 22:36 (one year ago) link

i thought i read somewhere that 00s blog fav kid sister was involved?

just sayin, Monday, 16 September 2019 22:40 (one year ago) link

There is another name attached too - Cleopatra Nikolic.

She has written for Little Simz.

I'm not on Instagram so didn't know about '7'. Curioser and curioser.

stirmonster, Monday, 16 September 2019 22:41 (one year ago) link

Some of these new tracks sound very “Danger Mouse” I wouldn’t be surprised if he is in fact attached to this one. I see there’s a connection between this “Dean Inflo” mystery man and Danger Mouse on a Michael Kiwanuka album.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 22:51 (one year ago) link

I kinda like how this band is a mystery. Really cool album!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 00:38 (one year ago) link

This sounds great, thanks for the heads up.
allmusic has the following bio information: "A rhythm-forward heavy rock ensemble formed by members of American power metallers Kamelot and groove metal outfit Arcanium." LOL, that seems highy unlikely

willem, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 08:39 (one year ago) link

It’s actually true! There’s another band called Sault who play metal. one of them might need to change their name eventually.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:02 (one year ago) link

Never heard of them before this thread. Listened to a couple tracks so far - I like it but the ESG influence is PROMINENT. Also hearing Tom Tom Club as filtered though, I don’t know, something from the era of late 90s electronica’s-the-next-big-thing.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:40 (one year ago) link

The song is the second single from Sault, a trio that features London-based musician Dean “Inflo” Josiah Cover (writer of audio mainstays “Black Man in a White World” by Michael Kiwanuka, “House in LA” by Jungle, “Offence” by Little Simz, and many, many more). It’s released via Forever Living Originals, an independent label that counts Melisa Young among its cohort, better known as Chicago rapper Kid Sister (whose Kanye-featuring “Pro Nails” was a bonafide smash upon its release in 2011, as was the track’s magnificently massive Rusko remix).

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:47 (one year ago) link

Oh nevermind I see you already figured this much out.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:48 (one year ago) link

I listened to and enjoyed the album but also thought that almost every song seemed geared for placement on a modern Southern Gothic HBO-type show. (N.B.: I am watching Sharp Objects at the moment which may have influenced this conclusion).

monotony, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 02:18 (one year ago) link

new album already?

just sayin, Monday, 30 September 2019 05:24 (one year ago) link

that should probably be 'new album already!'

just sayin, Monday, 30 September 2019 05:26 (one year ago) link

7? Have I missed 6?

mmmm, Monday, 30 September 2019 10:08 (one year ago) link

Haha I half wonder if they're just releasing individual discs from a huge boxset-sized debut album

7 is the one, I think (so far)--5 is pretty great debut for a 'sound' band--foregrounding those influences that seemingly nobody will ever tire of--but some of those songs on 7 really hit me deep in the soul

the cretin hits the cast (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:15 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Both albums are amazingly consistent, hard to really choose one over the other. Huge low-end throughout. I feel wrong saying it, but this is what I wish ESG sounded like.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 21 October 2019 23:12 (one year ago) link

My copy of the 2nd one should arrive tomorrow. I'm perfectly happy with how ESG sound already and wouldn't change anything about their sound, but if their more recent recordings had sounded more like this I'd probably play them more.

stirmonster, Monday, 21 October 2019 23:44 (one year ago) link

"why, why why" is an earworm and a half even on a first listen.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 00:02 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Damn totally missed the second release!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:28 (one year ago) link

It's really good too, although I feel ever slightly more favorably toward 5.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:37 (one year ago) link

They're both pretty fucking amazing. Love the trend of bands popping out 2 albums this year

octobeard, Saturday, 23 November 2019 02:03 (one year ago) link

Really enjoy the slight layer of polish distinguishing the second album from the first. Even more, I enjoy trying to figure out if it’s the songs as a whole or the brilliance of the rhythm section that’s the force of what’s captivating me.

file of unknown origin (bendy), Saturday, 23 November 2019 04:45 (one year ago) link

For me it’s the brilliance of the rhythm section. They are amazing. Apparently there’s a tour planned next year so I guess we’ll finally meet the people behind it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 November 2019 07:15 (one year ago) link

yes, all about the rhythm section for me. is anybody else's copy of the second album warped?

stirmonster, Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:54 (one year ago) link

Gradually, I'm growing to feel like this is ace songwriting, both wishing I could articulate why and knowing that I like it because I can't pin it down. It's Sly & Robbie, but it's also Sly and Robbie and Black Uhuru.

file of unknown origin (bendy), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:52 (one year ago) link

The grooves carry them on tracks that are less fleshed out, but there's definitely some standout songwriting too. "Why Why Why Why Why", "Masterpiece", and "Friends" leap to mind as A+ writing.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 24 November 2019 14:03 (one year ago) link

Yes, the grooves are what drew me in to begin with but the songwriting is what elevates it into something very special. it will be very interesting to see how it works live.

stirmonster, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:58 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I missed the previous discussion on this but gave it a listen after seeing it listed as Bandcamp’s second best album of the year. Rhythm section really shines.

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 14 December 2019 10:31 (one year ago) link

Jesus Christ these records are so utterly, completely everything I want/need in new music. Even things I love wholeheartedly, it's incredibly rare to hear something where just every decision feels so exactly right.

This has to be related to Little Simz, no?

The only connection I really hear to ESG (whom I adore) is that it's so perfectly minimalist--there's never more than like three or four sound sources. I hear some Library tendencies, some high sophistication a la Adrian Younge/Midnight Hour or Michael Kiwanaku but with so much more restraint. If there's an Afrobeat component it feels more like Lijadu Sisters than Fela... I mean, they definitely get the "who does this call back to" synapses firing, but ultimately I really don't care too much because it's just so perfectly timeless--never retro or overtly futurist, just. . . what it needs to be to do what it's trying to do.

Soundslike, Monday, 23 December 2019 05:32 (one year ago) link

If this is Danger Mouse related, it's by far the best thing he's ever been involved with. The restraint would seem uncharacteristic. . .

Soundslike, Monday, 23 December 2019 05:40 (one year ago) link

If you're not hearing this group, you're missing something pretty damned wonderful:

Soundslike, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 06:08 (one year ago) link

^ you piqued my interest with those previous posts, so thanks! 7 is especially good, I quickly decided.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 13:04 (one year ago) link

i wish the "dancing in the rover" (?) voice from "up all night" would reappear elsewhere. that little refrain is my favorite part of 5 !

budo jeru, Saturday, 4 January 2020 19:31 (one year ago) link

we're all voting for "up all night" as the song to represent sault at the 77 best tracks ILM 2019. i said it first that means you have to do it

budo jeru, Saturday, 4 January 2020 19:34 (one year ago) link

Kind of wish "Don't Waste My Time" was nominated, but don't want to further dilute the choices.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:06 (one year ago) link

i love don’t waste my time! still haven’t heard the new album.

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:11 (one year ago) link

I'll go with that just to get them seen/heard--but I don't think I could pick fewer than 10 favorites across the two albums.

I'm pretty firmly sold on '7' as the better of the two albums, though both are top-5 of the year for me...

Soundslike, Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:19 (one year ago) link

7 has grown on me but 5 is thee one i reckon. hard to choose between "don't waste my time" and "up all night".

stirmonster, Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:11 (one year ago) link

I need to try 7 again, definitely dismissed it too quickly.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:28 (one year ago) link

I can't figure getting one and not the other? They're hardly miles apart--tracks could be interchanged freely, other than '7' having a slightly more serious tone overall perhaps?

Soundslike, Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:45 (one year ago) link

you're probably right tbh.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 22:02 (one year ago) link

okay, there are songs on 5 that it sounds like had existed for many years but which I had only just heard (where has this been all my life?) whereas this one sounds more current and more like a straight RnB record at times (albeit a very good one). I was singing along with Up All Night, Why Why Why... and others after one listen (this is not always a good thing but is in this instance) but I struggle, so far, to have that connection on 7. 5 also sounds like a weird compilation of unheard tracks from various groups whereas 7 sounds like a record by a group (MAYBE) and that is not a negative, it just doesn't seem uncanny in the way 7 does.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:00 (one year ago) link

I also want to add how much I love Sault as a band/project name.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:08 (one year ago) link

I think it's part of the appeal, is that none of it rests on crazy production, or hides behind it. The drum sounds are super dry and attainable if you've done any kind of home recording. But it sounds like people playing instruments in an unadorned and refreshing way (like I'm sure it's all stacked overdubs, but not a lot of loops or programming). It lives & dies on the writing & performances, which are foregrounded by the straightforward production. And it consistently does the deceptively simple trick of making great songs out of the fewest possible number of elements.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 11 December 2020 20:04 (one month ago) link

I love the production on these, sounds to me like they’re trying to sound like a late 70’s band from the post-punk, punk funk, punk dance or whatever it’s called era.

It’s a very conscious decision too, as evidenced by Inflo’s work with other artists.... You can try the Cleo Sol album if you want a lusher, fuller sound by the same people.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 11 December 2020 21:22 (one month ago) link

But yeah I haven’t tried playing one after another but I think you can play SAULT songs in between ESG, Liquid Liquid, A Certain Ratio, et al and it wouldn’t sound out of place.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 11 December 2020 21:26 (one month ago) link

yeah that's what makes them so distinct to me, the way they combine that 70s dance-punk/post-punk sound with neo-soul etc.

ufo, Friday, 11 December 2020 22:12 (one month ago) link

really enjoying this

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:24 (one month ago) link

maybe a less hip reference than ESG etc and i'm sure it's probably unintentional and just a coincidence

but sometimes the songs are pretty skeletal, with just a drum loop and those great, dead sounding bass guitar loops remind me a little bit of sleaford mods

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:41 (one month ago) link

haha waited too long for payday and the physical versions are sold out again. oops. would love to see someone help them get some better distribution going.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 December 2020 17:49 (one month ago) link

i love rise so much

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:19 (one month ago) link

both amused and amazed by the coincidence of you bringing up Keiyaa's record - which is brilliant, it's high on my eoy list, but no better than (black is), imo- and just finishing reading an interview with her, where she makes kind of similar points to that thread of yours from a hundred years ago, about the marginalization of black music and black audiences in the US

― where do all these unsold amps go? (gaudio), Saturday, December 5, 2020 5:29 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

fwiw I like (rise) significantly more than (black is) which I find kind of lacking in songs, with a few notable exceptions

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Monday, 21 December 2020 04:33 (four weeks ago) link

I tend to find that (black is) has more individual songs that jump out at me but (rise) flows better for me as an album & I tend to listen to it right the way through more often. Having said that, Strong is probably my overall favourite song from the two albums.

This is another thread where I don't have much to add but Sault have definitely been one of my biggest listens over the last few months. I hadn't heard anything by them prior to around October, so hearing all four of the albums plus going through the Sault-associated stuff like Cleo Sol solo, Little Simz & Michael Kiwanuka has been a lot of fun and has probably helped open me up to new music generally after going through a phase of mostly listening to older things.

I would say that so far nothing that I've heard involving Inflo or other Sault people outside of Sault has grabbed me quite as much as what they've done as a group, but there's still plenty that's excellent, and the Inflo arrangement/production style with the bass & drum grooves foregrounded is definitely very recognisable across the different projects (and kind of addictive to me). Thanks to everyone on thread for drawing out the links. Still need to give Kid Sister's solo output a shot at some point.

Mr Andy M, Monday, 21 December 2020 11:27 (four weeks ago) link

Enjoying the Keiyaa album a lot btw, thanks for the recommendation.

Mr Andy M, Monday, 21 December 2020 11:32 (four weeks ago) link

KEXP 2020 Top 10 - (Rise) #6, (Black Is) #7.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 21:06 (four weeks ago) link

pfork doubling down with bnm-ing neither really nailing the lid on its tastemaker coffin.

sombrerodetuned (sombrerodetune), Thursday, 24 December 2020 15:01 (three weeks ago) link

Look forward to spending more time with Sault over my xmas break. When I've played them a bit so far, it just makes me put on the Simz album, which i love. I was curious what pitchfork did with that and it's weirdly right between today's two Sault scores at 8.1, also no BNM. yeesh lol

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 24 December 2020 15:06 (three weeks ago) link

I guess it's hard to put BNM on something that came out 7 months ago... fairly glowing review otherwise

Indexed, Thursday, 24 December 2020 15:47 (three weeks ago) link

The review is quality. Pitchfork's bizarre lateness/indifference is still dumb.

Soundslike, Thursday, 24 December 2020 17:23 (three weeks ago) link

Lol why would they even review them at this point? Did they felt left out from all the EOY lists placing these albums at their top 10?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 December 2020 18:50 (three weeks ago) link

You guys should take the W

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:02 (three weeks ago) link

We should be glad that they bothered to at least cover it at this point, as opposed to an album that was completely ignored at the time like "Ten Love Songs" was.

MarkoP, Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:10 (three weeks ago) link

Vote in the poll!

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 25 December 2020 14:18 (three weeks ago) link

I know I’m a broken record at this point, but baffling to see these folks getting an absolutely massive year end buzz going but it being impossible to buy a single physical copy of either of their albums. I feel bad for them, seems like they are leaving quite a bit of money on the table by having everything out of print already.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:28 (three weeks ago) link

“their 2020 albums”, I should say.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:28 (three weeks ago) link

yeah it's weird

bandcamp has a thing now where you can do a Kickstarter type pledge for reissues so if you hit X number of pre-orders you will repress, takes the risk out of it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:31 (three weeks ago) link

I mean, I’m assuming it’s a thing with a tiny label that was not at all prepared for the huge reception, but I’d love to see them get some better distribution.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:35 (three weeks ago) link

it's also not always easy to get stuff pressed quickly esp if you're independent

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:39 (three weeks ago) link

Oh absolutely, I don’t blame the band or the label, I just feel bad for them because there is clearly a big demand right now. I know I’m not the only one hitting their bandcamp up several times a day hoping they announce some new pressings.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:41 (three weeks ago) link

I've heard some reviews on discogs pointing out that the pressing isn't great and that it sounds better played from a phone. Anyone who has the vinyls can confirm on the quality of the pressing? I have 5 and 7 and they sound great to me. I don't know if its better to wait to order these pair of 'Untitled' until they have sorted out the high demand.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:44 (three weeks ago) link

Hell, I’d settle for even CDs at this point, but those are sold out as well.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:47 (three weeks ago) link

vinyl pressings sound good.

lead times for vinyl pressings are very, very long just now, not helped by covid outbreaks at pressing plants.

stirmonster, Monday, 28 December 2020 00:44 (three weeks ago) link

wow, where are the plants? I'm actually surprised at the number of things that are getting pressed given the circumstances and the Apollo masters fire.

10percent Discocunt (jed_), Monday, 28 December 2020 02:20 (three weeks ago) link

The Apollo masters fire made no impact on European pressings. All Euro pressing plants I know of have the longest backlogs I've ever heard of due to a convergence of factors, and then Covid has just exacerbated that. I'd rather not mention specific plants.

stirmonster, Monday, 28 December 2020 03:17 (three weeks ago) link

" on discogs pointing out that the pressing isn't great and that it sounds better played from a phone..."

I ordered the repressings(?) listed on Bandcamp and to my surprise the "**Shipping Mid Jan 2021**" vinyl arrived just after Santa (stateside no less).

Without perusing discogs for feedback on the non-black wax, I was just after saying to a friend that these black vinyl releases (some if not all pressed at Optimal) might be the quietest/cleanest new vinyl I've heard in ages.

Dynamics well present and well presented.

tl;dr, get them when/if you can.

The black vinyl of all four impresses with, by way of comparison, the 5 and 7 already in your library, slightly freer of non-distracting-but-not-unexpected-given-the-medium sonic artifacts.

sombrerodetuned (sombrerodetune), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 22:14 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

finally getting into black is. dont hear ESG at all, unless you only have indie/post punk references and had to find something that sounded vaguely close. skipped a load of messages so no idea if dangermouse was involved, but def does have his 90s breakbeat sort of aesthetic. i know they are british, but the singer definitely doesnt sound british. or at least, what she is singing definitely sounds very american.

candyman, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:15 (four days ago) link

makes me think of king a bit tbh. or any number of neo/indie/alt soul voices. love her voice.

candyman, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:16 (four days ago) link

if it isnt DM, its someone who is obviously a fan. def has that '90s plug in' vibe to the production.

candyman, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:22 (four days ago) link

danger mouse isn't involved, it's all produced & co-written by inflo. there are two lead singers and one of them, kid sister, is american. the other lead singer is cleo sol

ufo, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:28 (four days ago) link

inflo has worked on other stuff with danger mouse a fair bit though so there's your connection

ufo, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:30 (four days ago) link

also hear some shades of corinne bailey rae and lianne la havas.

candyman, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:44 (four days ago) link

One of their tracks (“Free”) is on the official Inauguration playlist

one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:56 (four days ago) link

The first two records ('5' and '7') are more minimalist than the 'Untitled' records. Still not especially ESG-ish, but the comparisons stem from those records, not the newer ones.

Soundslike, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:17 (four days ago) link

"i just want to dance" is definitely the most esg-ish thing on either of their 2020 albums

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:23 (four days ago) link

Yep the ESG bassline comparisons and the Jaki Liebezeit-style drums I mentioned are regarding 5 and 7. The Untitled records are more influenced by disco and funk than by post-punk and krautrock

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:32 (four days ago) link

E.g: “Let Me Go”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:59 (four days ago) link

ont hear ESG at all, unless you only have indie/post punk references and had to find something that sounded vaguely close.

sorry but that is nonsense. 5 in particular definitely has tracks that have an echo of ESG (intentional or otherwise) in some of the basslines, the way the drums swing, the fills and how stripped down they are.

stirmonster, Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:43 (four days ago) link

On black is?

candyman, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:48 (four days ago) link

Read the post, the answer is right there.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:50 (four days ago) link

5 and 7 are the name of their first two albums in case you think we’re talking about track numbers?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:24 (four days ago) link

investigating their other stuff. yes, i just want to dance does sound like ESG, my bad.

this album makes me think a bit of 4hero too actually.

candyman, Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:52 (three days ago) link

that's a good connection

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:42 (three days ago) link

I prefer 5 and 7 to Rise and Black Is, mainly because I find 5 & 7 to be really fun and the spoken interludes in Rise and Black Is don't have replay value to me (this is true about spoken interludes or skits on any album in history, for me). I'd def like to pick these up whenever they get a repress, if they are of the quality the Cleo Sol album is, which I recently got. It was expensive as fuck to order from the US (I think it came to $60) but the pressing sounds amazing, the cover and booklet are beautiful.

akm, Sunday, 17 January 2021 22:10 (three days ago) link

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