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Album is here - https://soundcloud.com/saultglobal/sets/sault-5

Just from the first track I can detect traces of ESG, The Jellies, The Dixie Cups & Holland–Dozier–Holland era Motown if it had been produced by Norman Whitfield. The production is timeless but state of the art at the same time. Ace songwriting.

My inner cynic reckons with the smart low key underground anti-marketing it is going to end up that Sault are some long time music business insiders, the album will eventually get a full release on say XL with a massive marketing push and it'll end up being thee essential album of 2020. Or not. But whatever, it doesn't detract from it being a great record.

stirmonster, Monday, 16 September 2019 20:42 (one year ago) link

I hate that the vinyl sold out like in a day and I was constantly checking if a release date was published. The whole willful obscurity of the project is frustrating but I guess it’s working. I heard Danger Mouse was involved but that might be fake.

Music wise I posted in the songs of summer 2019 thread that I absolutely love the combination of northern soul vocals + krautrock styled drums.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 20:58 (one year ago) link

i think vinyl is still available from here - https://www.sault.global/store/sault-5

stirmonster, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:00 (one year ago) link

It's groovy, but I'm not really hearing the ace songwriting.

#YABASIC (morrisp), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:02 (one year ago) link

i guess it comes down to what kind of song writing you dig?

stirmonster, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:04 (one year ago) link

Xpost: Huh that’s weird last time I checked they were sold out! I guess they restocked, thank you for the heads up, already ordered.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:07 (one year ago) link

People on discogs were selling them for twice or thrice the price which I thought was ridiculous as a second print was surely around the corner.

I see two sellers still have it for 50 pounds.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 21:11 (one year ago) link

Oh I see there’s snippets of a new album called 7 on their instagram account and it also sounds great. Seriously who are behind this project? I can’t find anything on them only name I see attached is Dean Inflo Josiah which is also very obscure on info and... maybe an alias of another artist?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 22:36 (one year ago) link

i thought i read somewhere that 00s blog fav kid sister was involved?

just sayin, Monday, 16 September 2019 22:40 (one year ago) link

There is another name attached too - Cleopatra Nikolic.

She has written for Little Simz.

I'm not on Instagram so didn't know about '7'. Curioser and curioser.

stirmonster, Monday, 16 September 2019 22:41 (one year ago) link

Some of these new tracks sound very “Danger Mouse” I wouldn’t be surprised if he is in fact attached to this one. I see there’s a connection between this “Dean Inflo” mystery man and Danger Mouse on a Michael Kiwanuka album.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 16 September 2019 22:51 (one year ago) link

I kinda like how this band is a mystery. Really cool album!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 00:38 (one year ago) link

This sounds great, thanks for the heads up.
allmusic has the following bio information: "A rhythm-forward heavy rock ensemble formed by members of American power metallers Kamelot and groove metal outfit Arcanium." LOL, that seems highy unlikely

willem, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 08:39 (one year ago) link

It’s actually true! There’s another band called Sault who play metal. one of them might need to change their name eventually.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:02 (one year ago) link

Never heard of them before this thread. Listened to a couple tracks so far - I like it but the ESG influence is PROMINENT. Also hearing Tom Tom Club as filtered though, I don’t know, something from the era of late 90s electronica’s-the-next-big-thing.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:40 (one year ago) link

The song is the second single from Sault, a trio that features London-based musician Dean “Inflo” Josiah Cover (writer of DanDigs.com audio mainstays “Black Man in a White World” by Michael Kiwanuka, “House in LA” by Jungle, “Offence” by Little Simz, and many, many more). It’s released via Forever Living Originals, an independent label that counts Melisa Young among its cohort, better known as Chicago rapper Kid Sister (whose Kanye-featuring “Pro Nails” was a bonafide smash upon its release in 2011, as was the track’s magnificently massive Rusko remix).

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dandigs.com/2019/04/06/diggin-this-sault-dont-waste-my-time-forever-living-originals-dean-inflo-josiah-cover-melisa-young-kid-sister-we-are-the-sun-london-chicago-pro-nails-kanye-dan-digs-jungle-michael-kiwanuka-black-man-i/amp/

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:47 (one year ago) link

Oh nevermind I see you already figured this much out.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:48 (one year ago) link

I listened to and enjoyed the album but also thought that almost every song seemed geared for placement on a modern Southern Gothic HBO-type show. (N.B.: I am watching Sharp Objects at the moment which may have influenced this conclusion).

monotony, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 02:18 (one year ago) link

new album already?

just sayin, Monday, 30 September 2019 05:24 (one year ago) link

that should probably be 'new album already!'

just sayin, Monday, 30 September 2019 05:26 (one year ago) link

7? Have I missed 6?

mmmm, Monday, 30 September 2019 10:08 (one year ago) link

Haha I half wonder if they're just releasing individual discs from a huge boxset-sized debut album

7 is the one, I think (so far)--5 is pretty great debut for a 'sound' band--foregrounding those influences that seemingly nobody will ever tire of--but some of those songs on 7 really hit me deep in the soul

the cretin hits the cast (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:15 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Both albums are amazingly consistent, hard to really choose one over the other. Huge low-end throughout. I feel wrong saying it, but this is what I wish ESG sounded like.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 21 October 2019 23:12 (one year ago) link

My copy of the 2nd one should arrive tomorrow. I'm perfectly happy with how ESG sound already and wouldn't change anything about their sound, but if their more recent recordings had sounded more like this I'd probably play them more.

stirmonster, Monday, 21 October 2019 23:44 (one year ago) link

"why, why why" is an earworm and a half even on a first listen.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 00:02 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Damn totally missed the second release!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:28 (one year ago) link

It's really good too, although I feel ever slightly more favorably toward 5.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:37 (one year ago) link

They're both pretty fucking amazing. Love the trend of bands popping out 2 albums this year

octobeard, Saturday, 23 November 2019 02:03 (one year ago) link

Really enjoy the slight layer of polish distinguishing the second album from the first. Even more, I enjoy trying to figure out if it’s the songs as a whole or the brilliance of the rhythm section that’s the force of what’s captivating me.

file of unknown origin (bendy), Saturday, 23 November 2019 04:45 (one year ago) link

For me it’s the brilliance of the rhythm section. They are amazing. Apparently there’s a tour planned next year so I guess we’ll finally meet the people behind it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 23 November 2019 07:15 (one year ago) link

yes, all about the rhythm section for me. is anybody else's copy of the second album warped?

stirmonster, Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:54 (one year ago) link

Gradually, I'm growing to feel like this is ace songwriting, both wishing I could articulate why and knowing that I like it because I can't pin it down. It's Sly & Robbie, but it's also Sly and Robbie and Black Uhuru.

file of unknown origin (bendy), Sunday, 24 November 2019 13:52 (one year ago) link

The grooves carry them on tracks that are less fleshed out, but there's definitely some standout songwriting too. "Why Why Why Why Why", "Masterpiece", and "Friends" leap to mind as A+ writing.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 24 November 2019 14:03 (one year ago) link

Yes, the grooves are what drew me in to begin with but the songwriting is what elevates it into something very special. it will be very interesting to see how it works live.

stirmonster, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:58 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I missed the previous discussion on this but gave it a listen after seeing it listed as Bandcamp’s second best album of the year. Rhythm section really shines.

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 14 December 2019 10:31 (one year ago) link

Jesus Christ these records are so utterly, completely everything I want/need in new music. Even things I love wholeheartedly, it's incredibly rare to hear something where just every decision feels so exactly right.

This has to be related to Little Simz, no?

The only connection I really hear to ESG (whom I adore) is that it's so perfectly minimalist--there's never more than like three or four sound sources. I hear some Library tendencies, some high sophistication a la Adrian Younge/Midnight Hour or Michael Kiwanaku but with so much more restraint. If there's an Afrobeat component it feels more like Lijadu Sisters than Fela... I mean, they definitely get the "who does this call back to" synapses firing, but ultimately I really don't care too much because it's just so perfectly timeless--never retro or overtly futurist, just. . . what it needs to be to do what it's trying to do.

Soundslike, Monday, 23 December 2019 05:32 (one year ago) link

If this is Danger Mouse related, it's by far the best thing he's ever been involved with. The restraint would seem uncharacteristic. . .

Soundslike, Monday, 23 December 2019 05:40 (one year ago) link

If you're not hearing this group, you're missing something pretty damned wonderful:

https://saultglobal.bandcamp.com/

Soundslike, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 06:08 (one year ago) link

^ you piqued my interest with those previous posts, so thanks! 7 is especially good, I quickly decided.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Wednesday, 1 January 2020 13:04 (one year ago) link

i wish the "dancing in the rover" (?) voice from "up all night" would reappear elsewhere. that little refrain is my favorite part of 5 !

budo jeru, Saturday, 4 January 2020 19:31 (one year ago) link

we're all voting for "up all night" as the song to represent sault at the 77 best tracks ILM 2019. i said it first that means you have to do it

budo jeru, Saturday, 4 January 2020 19:34 (one year ago) link

Kind of wish "Don't Waste My Time" was nominated, but don't want to further dilute the choices.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:06 (one year ago) link

i love don’t waste my time! still haven’t heard the new album.

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:11 (one year ago) link

I'll go with that just to get them seen/heard--but I don't think I could pick fewer than 10 favorites across the two albums.

I'm pretty firmly sold on '7' as the better of the two albums, though both are top-5 of the year for me...

Soundslike, Saturday, 4 January 2020 20:19 (one year ago) link

7 has grown on me but 5 is thee one i reckon. hard to choose between "don't waste my time" and "up all night".

stirmonster, Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:11 (one year ago) link

I need to try 7 again, definitely dismissed it too quickly.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:28 (one year ago) link

I can't figure getting one and not the other? They're hardly miles apart--tracks could be interchanged freely, other than '7' having a slightly more serious tone overall perhaps?

Soundslike, Saturday, 4 January 2020 21:45 (one year ago) link

you're probably right tbh.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 22:02 (one year ago) link

okay, there are songs on 5 that it sounds like had existed for many years but which I had only just heard (where has this been all my life?) whereas this one sounds more current and more like a straight RnB record at times (albeit a very good one). I was singing along with Up All Night, Why Why Why... and others after one listen (this is not always a good thing but is in this instance) but I struggle, so far, to have that connection on 7. 5 also sounds like a weird compilation of unheard tracks from various groups whereas 7 sounds like a record by a group (MAYBE) and that is not a negative, it just doesn't seem uncanny in the way 7 does.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:00 (one year ago) link

I also want to add how much I love Sault as a band/project name.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:08 (one year ago) link

I'd love to hear them cover Ghetto Heaven

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Saturday, 26 June 2021 15:58 (one month ago) link

i'm not the exact opposite of the consensus here, but i don't think i'm hearing this as the slight that most of you are. it's much shorter than the last two, sure, but the material is just as strong as anything else they've done. i think in "light's in your hands" and especially "bitter streets" it would rank as maybe the prettiest material they've done. super solid, but what's new.

after just a couple listens to nine, i'd rank their catalogue so far as:

1. rise
2. black is
3. 7
4. nine
5. 5

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 27 June 2021 21:15 (one month ago) link

5. 5

Absolutely nuts.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 27 June 2021 22:09 (one month ago) link

Their albums are uneven, and this one's no different.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 June 2021 22:12 (one month ago) link

the title track is completely gorgeous

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 28 June 2021 00:46 (one month ago) link

5. 5

Absolutely nuts.

― Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, June 27, 2021 3:09 PM

it should also be said that i wouldn't rate any of their albums thus far lower than four stars. consistency is the name of the game.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Monday, 28 June 2021 03:54 (one month ago) link

'Bitter Streets' is really nice too (those strings!)

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 28 June 2021 04:09 (one month ago) link

If we're doing this

1. 7
2. 5
3. Rise
4. Black Is
5. Nine

#4 and #5 could switch as I get to know the new one a little better

7 and 5 get the most plays and are to me the most consistent

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 28 June 2021 14:48 (one month ago) link


If we're doing this

1. 7
2. 5
3. Rise
4. Black Is
5. Nine

I'd probably go the same--though agree, 'Nine' could switch with 'Black Is'. That said, I love them all. I feel like I don't need every record they do to be as great as '7' or '5,' I'm just happy to see where they go, so glad they're going there.

Soundslike, Monday, 28 June 2021 15:58 (one month ago) link

am i the only one who thinks that (rise) is head and shoulders above their other, still very good albums?

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 28 June 2021 15:59 (one month ago) link

I think at the moment mine is

1. 5
2. Rise
3. 7
4. Black Is
5. Nine

I need to give Nine some more time, I don't hate it, but it seems a bit slight compared to the rest.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 28 June 2021 16:00 (one month ago) link

1. 5
2. 7
3. Rise
4 TIE: Black Is / Nine

5 was my introduction to them and as evidenced in this thread, they blew my mind pretty early. It’s also the most consistently great imho. 7 and Rise continue the streak of what we could call their “celebratory” albums. Black Is has some great moments - including “Wildfires” which might be their best song yet - but I think both that one and NINE have a more politically aggressive, protest atmosphere which I also love but I see myself listening to the “celebratory” side of them more often.

That said I agree with Austin that I wouldn’t rate any album of them lower than 4 stars.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:02 (one month ago) link

At least that’s how they register to me in intention. But we have no idea what’s the artist intent. We still don’t know what does the S.A.U.L.T. acronym even stands for. Is NINE also an acronym? What’s the meaning behind the numeration in the albums?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:11 (one month ago) link

moka, i've also wondered quite a bit about that myself. i find it interesting that all of the number albums thus far have been odds* and the others, despite having parenthetical titles, are officially "untitled." does it have something to do with how/where they were recorded maybe? the two untitled albums definitely have a "bigger", more fleshed-out sound (generally speaking) than the number albums. idk. music jams, whatever the case may be, so i'm happy.

*(initially i thought maybe they were going for prime numbers only, but that's obviously not the case now that NINE exists.)

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:21 (one month ago) link

i don't really have an order of favourites but would probably be very similar to ✖✖✖ (Moka).

so far really love 50% of Nine, the other 50% not so much. may change my mind over time.

stirmonster, Monday, 28 June 2021 17:29 (one month ago) link

I suspected it was a sort of numeration for Inflo’s Forever Living Originals label. Maybe Little Simz, Kid Sister and Cleo Sol’s albums and eps were 01, 02, 03, 04 then Sault 5 is 05, Cleo Sol is 06, Sault 7 is 07, the Untitled Sault counts as a single 08 release and Nine is 09 but it’s a stretch and doesn’t quite square up…

I need to account for the first 4 releases: Little Simz - grey, Kid Sister - long way back, Cleo sol - winter songs EP were all released before 5 iirc and could be 1, 2 and 3 but I’m missing another one. There’s an Inflo single from 2018 that could be the one…

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:32 (one month ago) link

So maybe the meaning behind the numbers is really just a catalogue #

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:33 (one month ago) link

But we would need to count both untitled as a single project and it doesn’t work since they weren’t released as a double album.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:34 (one month ago) link

Maybe it’s the numeration for recording sessions, if both Untitled were recorded in the same sessions then that’s it. But again this is just a theory.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 28 June 2021 17:43 (one month ago) link

am i the only one who thinks that (rise) is head and shoulders above their other, still very good albums?

― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, June 28, 2021 11:59 AM (one hour ago)

I agree with this but with caveat that I'm much less of a fan than most others posting here.
Frankly, this new one coming out made me realize I haven't given them much of a thought in 2021

trap door to hell opens underneath (rob), Monday, 28 June 2021 18:00 (one month ago) link

yeah i am a fan of these guys but probably don't have the same rapturous reaction to most of their stuff as many in this thread. maybe there's something to that? is (rise) the least sault-like sault record?

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, 28 June 2021 18:44 (one month ago) link

The “you from london” almost ruins the song which is pretty good.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 28 June 2021 19:46 (one month ago) link

I've listened to this once but my immediate reactions are "this is uniformly good throughout the whole thing" and "lmao at the pearl-clutching over 'You From London'"

an eco-conscious Music Box (DJP), Monday, 28 June 2021 20:24 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I don't get what's so annoying about it. Extended spoken part works well set to music!

I also like everything here, incl. "Alcohol" and esp. "Fear," though I often like this band most when they're repeating a lyric to the point of abstraction and/or inescapable truth.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Monday, 28 June 2021 21:18 (one month ago) link

am i the only one who thinks that (rise) is head and shoulders above their other, still very good albums?

― the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Monday, June 28, 2021 11:59 AM (one hour ago)

I agree with this but with caveat that I'm much less of a fan than most others posting here.
Frankly, this new one coming out made me realize I haven't given them much of a thought in 2021

― trap door to hell opens underneath (rob)

This is the same for me. Rise is the only album of theirs I've connected with for some reason. I like bits from their others, but as Alfred says, they're very uneven.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 00:18 (one month ago) link

even rise is a little uneven with some of the interludes & instrumentals feeling a bit unnecessary but it doesn't really get in the way of itself too much, it's certainly their strongest

ufo, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 00:20 (one month ago) link

lmao at the pearl-clutching over 'You From London'"

― an eco-conscious Music Box (DJP), Monday, June 28, 2021 1:24 PM

are folks really pearl-clutching? like, really???? must have struck a nerve i guess.

i thought it was one of the standouts on the album and seriously dope to hear them do essentially a straight up hiphop track.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 01:10 (one month ago) link

It’s one of my favorite tracks in here too. And it’s not even the “you from london?” sample which I found grating it’s the last minute with the full clip, it’s just unnecessary I keep skipping it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 03:41 (one month ago) link

yeah it's fine except for the outro lol

ufo, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 03:44 (one month ago) link

Didn't know what ppl were not liking on that track but now realized it's cause I skipped the outro every time. It's prob the only track in the album I'll feel a need to hear again. Liked parts of other tracks but they all were ruined by one thing or another (truly personal preference. Think the se tracks are good at what they were going for, just not my cup of tea)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 03:58 (one month ago) link

Listening to it today again while stuck in traffic I think I ended up liking it even better. I don't think there's a single track in here I dislike except the spoken word bits and interludes - but I tend no to rate them when judging an album.

Curiously noone has mentioned 'Trap Life' yet and it might be one of my favorite ones in here, love that groove.

Ranking them I'd probably say:
Trap Life > Bitter Streets > You from London > 9 > London Gangs > Light's in Your Hands > Fear > Alcohol

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 04:07 (one month ago) link

Wait actually put Bitter Streets

Ranking them I'd probably say:
Trap Life > You from London > 9 > London Gangs > Bitter Streets > Fear > Light's in Your Hands > Alcohol

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 04:16 (one month ago) link

ugh copied and pasted all wrong there lol... anyway the second ranking is the correct one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 04:17 (one month ago) link

The fact that one could make an absolutely killer "greatest hits" double LP for Sault after only 2.25 years is pretty impressive to me.

That they're consistently the #1 seller on Bandcamp when they drop a new release despite the fsct that they've put the last three albums up to download ob their wevsite for free; that Pitchfork now has to pretend like they've been covering them all along; all based on zero promotion and sparse critical coverage, essentially from pure word-of-mouth, despite virtually no direct social media and despite their participants being nearly anonymous--it's just down to that people really respond to their music.

I've played them for many friends and acquaintances, including a lot of musiicans and producers, and all have become fans and most proselytes themselves.

A pretty remarkable phenomenon. Add in that Inflo has simultaneously produced two Little Simz albums (one of which was my favorite album of its year until I heard Sault's '7'), Cleo Sol, and Michael Kiwanuka--dude has been involved in a huge share of my favorite music these last years.

Soundslike, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 04:33 (one month ago) link

"You From London" coda is annoying because it feels like a joke that's already well played out and having to sit through it every time I listen to this (otherwise excellent) album is a frustrating prospect

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 08:55 (one month ago) link

My partner is a sucker for half-time R'n'B swing, so as soon as Alcohol came on she was sold

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 08:56 (one month ago) link

The fact that one could make an absolutely killer "greatest hits" double LP for Sault after only 2.25 years is pretty impressive to me.

Actually tried to do this in Spotify but realised that despite having listened to all these albums a few times I'm not 100% familiar with which cut is which. It ended up being about 40% cuts from Rise with stand outs from the others. I really need to listen to 5 a bit more.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 08:58 (one month ago) link

I think of the "number" albums as being a bit more post-punky, stripped back, "EP-ish", whereas the Untitled ones are more neo-soul and "Albumy"

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 08:59 (one month ago) link

“alcohol” is pure d’angelo

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 11:59 (one month ago) link

idk maybe it’s cause im not from london, but i don’t find the spoken stuff on that song to be that tonally different from “you know it ain’t” from rise. it’s less clever and biting, sure

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 12:00 (one month ago) link

I wonder how much ones favorites depends on what one heard first? '5' and '7' hit me hard in late 2019, and their relative "smallness," the stripped-down qualities people associate with ESG/post-punk, really hit me perfectly (especially coming off my love for Little Simz). But during the next summer, their bigger, more global sound was perfect for that time--I loved hearing them stretch out and prove they could do "wide-screen" as much as intimate. But my heart remains with that "smaller" sound I first fell in love with...

Soundslike, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 13:29 (one month ago) link

We shuffled the first four albums during hours of rural driving last September, past endless Trump signs and Trump shrines. It got me through, but it's rendered their catalog a big saulty life raft where I adore even the less-stunning bits just as much obvious masterstrokes, and the then-recent Untitled tracks are blended together. It was a bit of a shock to have new tracks this week, given the turmoil they've pulled me through, nearly like skeptically listening to a comeback record after a decade. Time is so fucked up now. After four or five listens I can't tell if this was more of a grower or I just was so fulfilled by this group I needed to make a little space in my brain for more.

Citole Country (bendy), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 14:48 (one month ago) link

xp I feel the same way. I love Rise and Black Is but I prefer the number albums because they're more focused

paolo, Thursday, 1 July 2021 11:47 (one month ago) link

Only listened to 9 once but I love it

paolo, Thursday, 1 July 2021 11:47 (one month ago) link

Love this album as much as all the others. I dont think it’s slight at all - more that Cleo Sol’s presence feels a little more limited. She doesn’t seem to really show up until the second half and one of those is the under-baked “Alcohol”. Agree that and “You From London” are the weakest stretch but I still enjoy both songs. Really love the first half, and it finishes strong with 9 and Light.

“Fear” feels almost like a Beak> track.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 1 July 2021 19:33 (one month ago) link

though I often like this band most when they're repeating a lyric to the point of abstraction and/or inescapable truth.

― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Monday, June 28, 2021 4:18 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, they have this quality where I can imagine playing a little riff or coming up with a little sing-song hook and dismissing it as nothing, but they will commit to a small idea with confidence and it's great. Maybe it comes off as under-written to some people, but to me it's a great ability to recognize what could actually be a whole song.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 1 July 2021 19:46 (one month ago) link

Some of this new one does indeed sound like portishead/beak> producing... The Go! Team?

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 7 July 2021 14:57 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

^^

that's not a bad description of the first few songs especially

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:37 (one week ago) link

I just realised Sault is an anagram of Tulsa

paolo, Friday, 23 July 2021 09:05 (one week ago) link


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