― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
Incidentally, I understand that "Outside The Dream Syndicate" (the album Faust did with Tony Conrad in '73) is due to be re-released (complete with a 2nd CD of bonus tracks etc. apparently) but I've heard very mixed reports of this one - is anyone familiar with it? C or D?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 09:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Damian (Damian), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 09:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
Classic. "Academic" mid-1960s underground L.E.S. NY little-m minimalism meets German psychedelia.
I think the bonus tracks is probably the same schtuff as was released on the 7" that originally came with the CD (which had a bonus track itself), but I've no idea. I've got the orig. Caroline issue (released as a "nice price" style, just like Faust Tapes), plus the CD + 7" version...
― hstencil, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anas FK, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 18:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bob snoom, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt Kendall (mattkendall), Sunday, 15 December 2002 10:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 9 March 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dadaismus, Monday, 10 March 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
Faust are one of the cornerstones of my life but that's based entirely on the first four albums and Rien. they never really jumped the shark, so to speak, but they just sort of became less essential.
i saw them live in 1998 or 1999, and it was good, but not amazing. the sense of danger and unpredictability that i expected was absent.
― john fail (cenotaph), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― john fail (cenotaph), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
I will grow old and they will remain my favorite band. Can't do the new stuff though, the balance is gone without Rudolf Sosna's songs and Kurt Graupner's engineering.
The story in this month's Wire was nice to see but frustratingly Irmler-centric. I don't trust that guy...
― Jon Leidecker, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― haitch (haitch), Sunday, 19 March 2006 10:37 (eighteen years ago) link
EMI, who now own the Virgin label, have announced the release of a remastered Faust IV with extra tracks. You'll want to snap this up, not only for the new material but because the mastering of the existing version of the album on CD is so poor.
From the press release: "The bonus disc is completed with six previously unreleased tracks recorded by Uwe Nettelbeck. Beginning with a soporific take on Jennifer, followed by an alternate take of The Sad Skinhead, an extended version of Just a Second takes the track to greater levels of trance inducement, before ending in its almost trademark snare crack half roll. The ambient Piano Piece is reminiscent of Brian Eno's Another Green World - best known as the theme tune to the BBC documentary series Arena. A gentle and shimmering piece it is a gem tucked away on this second disc that concludes with alternate takes on Lauft and Giggy Smile."
As with the existing release, the track listing doesn't mention the track Run seperately, although presumably it will stiill be there, tacked on to the end of Lauft.
CD1: The original album, re-mastered
* Krautrock * The Sad Skinhead * Jennifer * Just a Second (Starts Like That!) * Picnic on a Frozen River (Deuxieme Tableux) * Lauft... Heist Das Es Lauft Oder Es Kommt Bald... Lauft * It's a Bit of a Pain
CD2: bonus disc
* The Lurcher (BBC Peel Session) * Krautrock (BBC Peel Session) * Do So (BBC Peel Session) * Jennifer (Alternate) * The Sad Skinhead (Alternate) * Just A Second (Starts Like That!) (Extended Version) * Piano Piece (aka Das Meer) * Lauft... Heisst Das Es Lauft Oder Es Kommt Bald... Lauft (Alternate) * Giggy Smile (Alternate)
― haitch (haitch), Sunday, 19 March 2006 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― willem -- (willem), Sunday, 19 March 2006 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
the track listing on faustpages is incorrect as well -- looks like the new remaster got it right though
― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 19 March 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 1 May 2006 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link
The only track I'm not fussed about is the third (longest) one off the first album.
All the rest, and indeed "IV" is all classic. I don't know why.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link
What that one where they're all round the pianner having a good old Teutonic singalong (Knees Up, Mutter Braun) and "Garlic, yes/ White/ Yes white" etc etc?
― You'll Never Put a Better Bit of Butter On Your Knife (Dada), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link
"Why don't you eat carrots" still my favourite. Like a manic circus parade ploughing through some couple's bedroom, at one point.
Woman: "Have they gone?"Man: "I Think so""ting....."
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hidden Fire, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
-- John Bullabaugh (Liphedd...), March 9th, 2003 1:34 PM.
Yes, also: Patchwork, which is like a Faust mixtape made by crazies and Derbe Respect, Alder (with Dalek) are fucking grand.
― S- (sgh), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link
That album is overrated, IMHO. They skitzophrenically switch genres with each song to the point that the album really loses something. The first song is a pretty nice krauty instrumental jam. Nothing amazing, but nice. I can't remember the exact track order, but at the beginning of the CD there's also the dub, ambient rock song, which is pretty nice. But then there's that one that sounds something like an Irish jig. What the hell is with that? It's so out of place. I think the album is lacking a cohesive flow to the whole thing.
― like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― like murderinging (modestmickey), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:47 (eighteen years ago) link
That is why.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Totally ridiculous. While Rainy Day Sunshine Girl is a very VU type thing, it is it's own beast and a magnificent one at that, and also classic for I've Got My Car and My TV/Picnic On a Frozen River.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
remaster sounds good, they fixed the tracking and the tape splice glitch on 'jennifer', and they restored the original beautiful cover art with the smaller sheet music & typeface
most of the alternative versions are earlier mixes of album tracks... same performance, but rougher eq balance & in some cases one less layer of sound. 'sad skinhead' has an extra verse and 'piano piece' (aka 'meer' from 71 minutes) is about three minutes longer. nothing earthshaking.
the real attraction is the complete 10 minute version of 'just a minute', which is faded down about 90 seconds in on the original album. it's cool, basically just jamming and then the tape machine got turned on, but... it's them all right, you could tell it was them from the next room. beautiful part in the middle where everything breaks down just to the drums and that incredibly corroded, echoey wash of organ ambience that was distinctively theirs, fans know what I'm talking about.
(I'm guessing this is more of the 'laufzeitmachine', a delay that graupner built them using several tape heads & a tape loop threaded around a turntable, which could then be 'played' to change the tape speed as it fed back. we still need a longer interview with graupner about the gear he built them)
so, good to have the new jam, but the main thing is they've finally done the mastering and track id's right.
― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 4 June 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link
yeah screw that, what a waste
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Sunday, 4 June 2006 22:37 (seventeen years ago) link
orgone girl's right though, I hadn't a/b'ed them yet. they overdid it on the noise reduction. though there is a lot of tape hiss on the original record & CD, the nonoise deadened the high end a bit. having checked out both a little bit I think I prefer the sound of the original disc. that stings.
the ReR BBC Sessions disc is definitely better overall than the 2nd disc on this new thing, so people who don't have this yet could just grab a used copy of the original version of the CD, and a copy of BBC Sessions. that being said, I am ten steps past fanatical when it comes to this band, I'm keeping both editions.
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 5 June 2006 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― So Ho La (So Ho La), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne, Friday, 30 March 2007 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― admrl, Friday, 30 March 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― theoreo, Friday, 30 March 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link
So Faust are playing Hull on June 10th but I've promised a friend I'd babysit. Please tell me I'm not missing much re: their current incarnation.
― Noodle Vague, Friday, 1 June 2007 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Aren't there 2 versions kicking about now?
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 1 June 2007 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link
What do Faust "play" when they play live? Is it guitar, drum and bass set up? I couldn't imagine how they would play the majority of their songs like that. Unless they became a more normal band type thing nowadays and used to be something more wild.
― filthy dylan, Friday, 1 June 2007 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Faust IV was always my favorite, but Faust v. Dalek is pretty compelling too.My "review," or response, was in theVoice, and I also try to describe a new version of "Beware (The Transatlantic Feedback," with Gary Burger, in my take on Silver Monk Chant: A Tribute To The Monks, which will be out in the States later this month, and so will the review, again in Voice. Irmler saw them on The Beat Club in '66, revelatory for teeenaged him, as he describes it in the documentary, Monks--The Transatlantic Feedback. (Although wathching that same appearance on You Tube, and their studio stuff,I can't agree that "they had no Afro-American or Caribbean influence," but maybe he just means how he heard them at the time.)
― dow, Monday, 4 June 2007 05:09 (sixteen years ago) link
what name is that Liebezeit collab under, and what is album title?
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link
i didn't enjoy faust in sf as much as milton but my experienced was probably dampened by seeing magma the night before
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
I missed Magma this time, but... Magma is currently one of the best touring bands in the entire known galaxy so... saw them in 2010 and 2014, and I hear the new guys they've added since last year's show are insane.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link
are you guys saying i should go see magma on friday
― adam, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
if you like music!
xp self-titled, spotify. again, temper your expectations, more FYI than anything else
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
cool thanks, I just need a Jaki fix tbh
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
i saw faust (great, but short set) and missed magma (conflicting plans) but always need a jaki fix!!
― La Lechuza (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfabqGeA2IU
― Bottlerockey (Tom D.), Friday, 23 September 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link
Great! Never knew Impressions existed. So this is where Cadbury got their idea with the gorilla-ad from
― willem, Friday, 23 September 2016 12:57 (seven years ago) link
Looks like the Faust / Slapp Happy shows at Cafe Oto were rather good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKccCYmwrLE
― Noel Emits, Monday, 20 February 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
Wish I'd gone now :(
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Monday, 20 February 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
I dunno if I'm a fan of the "Faust is Last" album; sadly it would have been better if they had trimmed it by about a half hour. Because both discs have some great pieces along with a lot of interchangable material. Ravvivando is still the post-reformation group's high water mark.― frogbs, Monday, October 25, 2010 1:09 PM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― frogbs, Monday, October 25, 2010 1:09 PM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I take it back, I think it's pretty good now. definitely one of those albums you gotta crank up. even the second disc feels quite interesting to me, now.
anyone try out the last two Faust albums? kinda wanted to check them out based on the strength of this album, even though it's a totally different lineup.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 13:54 (seven years ago) link
New album Fresh Air in two weeks. I don't have the highest of hopes but I'm willing to give it a shot!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link
New box set with a whole unreleased album from 1974 -
https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/faust-1971-1974-limited-edition-box-set-on-cd-and-vinyl/
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
so half of Punkt appears to be stuff that also appeared on 71 Minutes, but in a different form (sounds more like demos). other half is (I think?) new, clearly recorded during the same sessions though. good stuff but not exactly a "new album", it's nowhere near as polished as Faust IV. the two discs of rarities are pretty neat though, its like 2 more albums of Faust Tapes, minus the actual songs. plenty of cool jams though
― frogbs, Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link
omg did this ship?!?!
― Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link
It did, the unreleased stuff is pretty damn great too, my theory is that they finally located the multitracks that they did a runner with from the last sessions in Munich.
They apparently had a week in the studio before they were rumbled. I think this extra stuff is all from there, but they wanted to attach all the other albums to it to make more of it.
It works for me, because we already have all the Wumme stuff and the Manor out-takes.
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:37 (two years ago) link
wonder if any of this is gonna be released separately. would be cool to be able to get Punkt as a standalone and So Far is desperately in need of a repress.
― frogbs, Monday, 18 October 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link
gahh why hasn't my Forced Exposure preorder shipped, dying over here
― Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Monday, 18 October 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link
New album
https://faust-berlin.bandcamp.com/album/daumenbruch
Seems to be another new lineup? Anyway, great cover and clicking around these tunes seem pretty chaotic
― frogbs, Saturday, 22 January 2022 01:41 (two years ago) link
Really enjoying this release
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 22 January 2022 02:58 (two years ago) link
where tf is that box set repress, YSI?
― bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Saturday, 22 January 2022 03:35 (two years ago) link
― frogbs, Monday, October 18, 2021 4:42 PM (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink
what do you know
https://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/faust-punkt-lp/BB.392LP.html
― frogbs, Monday, 18 April 2022 14:38 (two years ago) link
👍🏽
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 April 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link
And indeed
https://faust.bandcamp.com/album/punkt
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:24 (two years ago) link
Still not on Spotify, but.
(The Faust Tapes is, with the new titles...)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 16:05 (two years ago) link
picked up the standalone LP of Punkt and really liking it. I was a bit too dismissive at first. "Morning Land" is similar to the first track on 71 Minutes but the version of "Knochentanz" sure isn't...it's got a polka rhythm which suddenly switches into a shuffle. super cool. the way the drums kick in is very much like "Krautrock". "Fernlicht", I swear, sounds like it could fit on the next Autechre album (if it were 8x longer). the direction they went in after they reformed makes a lot more sense now. "Schon Rund" has some of the prettiest gosh darn music in their whole catalogue. really makes good on the promise of those little piano pieces they sometimes did. the entire record sounds weirdly modern too - I'd believe it was something on Ipecac in 2005. dare I say it would be a pretty high profile album if it was actually released in '75 (maybe it wouldn't have been at the time, but it would totally have a following now)
― frogbs, Sunday, 18 September 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link
New live album, This Is The Right Path, recorded in China in 2016.
https://oldheavenbooks.bandcamp.com/album/this-is-the-right-path
“Dec. 2015: I received an invitation from Old Heaven to participate with FaUSt to the 3rd edition of “Tomorrow Festival” at B10 Live, Shenzhen, China!A few months later, May 2016, we were on our way to the most exciting concert experience. A loooong flight-haul and then, such a warm welcome, such a perfect organization… the most charming, dedicated, competent crew around us… the largest cement mixer I ever used on stage, and an audience so vibrant, so focused.I was and still am in memory, overwhelmed by the endless energy of all the people I met: technicians, promoters, music fans, the so-creative Knitting Ladies, my old-time friend Keiji Haino, and my comrade Maxime.The music we created together had been accurately recorded. As Old Heaven proposed to release this concert, I immediately was enthused by the idea. Even more so when I heard the perfect mix of Liu Ying. Two tracks were beautifully post-produced, edited and mixed by Amaury Cambuzat.I loved the B10 Live performance and place it in my top ten FaUSt concerts ever and I love this album, I do.”—— JHP / art-Errorist
—— JHP / art-Errorist
Jean-Hervé Péron: Vocals / Bass / Acoustic Guitars / Trumpet / Cement MixerWerner “Zappi” Diermaier: Drums
Very Special Guests:Maxime Manac’h: Keyboards / Guitar/ Gas Cylinder / Hurdy-GurdyKeiji Haino: Vocals / Electric Guitars / ElectronicsWei Zi, Tina, Li Tingting: Knitting Performance
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link
whoa...didn't know they did a show with Keiji Haino. makes sense though
heard the two Momentaufnahme discs from the 1971-1974 set are getting a separate vinyl release. hopefully they just do the whole box. would be nice to have a copy of So Far that is NOT the 4 Men With Beards version
― frogbs, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link
I have a bunch of Polydor/Virgin origs, will be nice to finish up with the box extras.
― Mark G, Friday, 23 December 2022 10:38 (one year ago) link
That live set looks great and went to order it, but balked at paying $30 shipping for a $28 CD. Nope.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 December 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link
So the unreleased stuff on the boxset from two years back is available separately now:
https://faust.bandcamp.com/album/momentaufnahme-i
https://faust.bandcamp.com/album/momentaufnahme-ii
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link
Or at least the Momentaufnahme work.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 March 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link
Faust and Faust So Far are on streaming now too. Not sure if that just happened today or was the case for a while... but last year when I checked they weren't there.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 10 March 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
The "punkt." also.
― Mark G, Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link