Did your parents' musical taste(s) leave an indelible mark on your own?

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I'm on a bit of an old-school prog kick at the moment and it got me thinking about how much my dad's musical habits have shaped my own.

Contemporary Western music wasn't readily available behind the Iron Curtain at the time but in his youth he was heavily into Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Hawkwind, Yes, Genesis, Roxy Music and the like. On the hard rock end of things, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath were favourites as well. He also recalls listening to Amon Düül, Ash Ra Tempel, Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Stomu Yamashta and Vangelis in the mid 70s. When I was kid and we were still living in Bucharest, I remember him playing various recordings of Bach's Brandenburg Concertos, orchestral works by Beethoven and Ravel, as well as a fair amount of Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis, 50s John Coltrane and Weather Report, alongside some of the aforementioned 70s bands (mostly Floyd, Tangerine Dream and Vangelis). He also got me into Neil Young, Joan Baez, Sade, Depeche Mode circa Violator, Enya and Fleetwood Mac to some extent, although the latter is one of his rare likes that I've never managed to fully appreciate (oh, and Dire Straits, Queen and… the Eagles, although I don't outright hate any of them). He encouraged me to pick up albums by Nirvana and Portishead in the mid 90s, which was awesome.

He never much cared for the Beatles, the Beach Boys, the Who, David Bowie or the Rolling Stones, a relative apathy which I share for the most part (the latter being a notable exception). He doesn't dislike r&b, disco or hip-hop, but he never developed a real taste for them, and his knowledge of African American music in general is more lacking than not, which is fairly typical for a Romanian dude of his generation. Speaking of which, Romanian music was never much of a staple at home, save for special occasions. Some amount of so-called 'world' music was often in rotation, however: mostly bossa nova, Cesária Évora, Astor Piazzolla, Ali Farka Touré and various others, usually heard on the radio.

My mom was never much of a music obsessive and my earliest memories of her listening to anything involve Leonard Cohen, on the one hand, and highly sentimental Romantic warhorses and opera arias, on the other. I definitely love Leonard Cohen and late Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff and the like so that has certainly stuck with me, although opera is a continent for which I have little affinity, especially prior to the 20th century.

I'm sure I'm forgetting something essential but all in all, I could easily make a (dull) case for most of my likes and dislikes hearkening back in some way to what my parents listened to. The most notable difference between us, perhaps, is that neither of them has much patience for extreme dissonance and avant-garde gestures.

Anyhow, I'm especially curious about those for whom the exact opposite happened.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

No

Ask Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

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Ask Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

*Acts surprised* (MarcelMarceau2.jpg).

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

No. My parents have no particular musical interests.

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

No. Before breakfast TV existed in the UK, my mother would have Radio 2 on purely as background noise, so I heard the less challenging end of the hit parade that way.

just another country (snoball), Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

I had no idea so many ILMers were sui generis (I'm not being sarcastic btw).

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

None at all. My older sister was my biggest influence - so no Beatles, Dylan, Stones, nine of that shite.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

Yeah, a bit. My mom had tons of LPs, mainly rock from the 70s and early 80s. Bowie was her favourite. I listened to lots of that stuff growing up.

I wound up in possession of her collection and also my uncle's (hard rock, prog) and grandma's (romantic composers, Hungarian folk). I never get rid of anything so it's all still sitting around.

jmm, Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah, Dylan completely slipped my mind. I think the language barrier put off my parents from most text-heavy singer/songwriter types (except for Cohen, on account of all the pretty saddo melodies). That's another thing I've mostly inherited: I don't give a rat's ass about lyrics unless they're brilliant or so awful tuning them out becomes a conscious act.

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pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

my dad was from Kerry and into The Irish Showband scene! My mum likes cheesy Irish crooners but was more of a generalist back in the 70's and would blast out Floyd, Rolling Stones, The Eagles, T-Rex occasionally.

calzino, Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

so no.

calzino, Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

1966-72 my dad bought and played LPs constantly, so I was exposed to a lot of classic rock, folk rock, and soul as it was being released. I still like and listen to most of that music, though some of it didn't take (my affection for the Grateful Dead exceeds my interest in listening to them).

Mom leans more toward jazz and classical, but she never played music around the house when I was a child and I didn't get into those genres until much later.

Brad C., Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

no

my dad preferred to listen to talk radio and the news while driving. my mom had a small, old cache of records and tapes, rock-oriented, that were never played, and she preferred the oldies station and the pop station (there were not a lot of choices in our area), but never seemed to be very set on anything musical.

but my own interest in music developed from very intent listening to practically the only source available to me for a long time, the radio, so in a way they left me to my own devices, which did turn out to be characteristic of my tastes.

j., Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

My parents didn't have anything in the way of "rock" in their vinyl collection (unless you count Elvis' gospel phase), but they did have a lot of easy listening/exotica (Martin Denny/Mystic Moods Orchestra/Arthur Lyman/Jackie Gleason/etc.) which I developed a real taste for. My mom is old now, but I still hip her to various artists on the ECM label, which she really digs.

henry s, Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

Heh, whenever I discover a new release that my dad would likely enjoy, it's on ECM at least nine times out of ten.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

Absolutely. I learned about music by going through my parents' old LPs. My tastes aren't at all a mirror of theirs - my dad had tons of LPs by Janis Joplin and Flatt and Scruggs, and I've never been super into those acts, and my mom is very into Judy Collins and musicals, which I'm not. Plus, in high school I got super into Floyd and Zep, which were from after their time and not stuff they listened to. However, the Beatles, Jefferson Airplane, Temptations, Hendrix, Creedence - this is all stuff I love that I heard through my parents. Would I have grown to love this stuff if they didn't listen to it? Probably, but that doesn't mean their loving it didn't make a difference to my attitude towards music. Even the stuff that didn't take makes a difference. My mom has actually very good taste in musicals (though she's not a Sondheim stan like a lot of the musical junkies I know), and I've learned a lot from her collection and experience what makes a good musical versus a not-so-good musical.

Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

ECM: Bridging the Generation Gap for 50 Years.

henry s, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

Man it's gonna be a sad day when Manfred Eicher gives up the ghost.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

j otm, my parents did listen to pop radio in the car, without any particular “fandom” but that was enough for me to get exposed to a lot of music, because pop radio could go deep in the 80s, and it could express local tastes that influenced me like a parent (eg freestyle and 80s r&b generally)

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link

Oh yeah Hendrix and Creedence, my dad loves those too! And while I've always been a Hendrix fan, I've learned to appreciate Creedence more over the past decade.

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pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

absolutely not.
the biggest thing my parents were into when I was discovering music was Andrew Lloyd Webers Variations, and Richard f&cking Clayderman.
thankfully someone gave me 'My Girl' 7" single for my 11th birthday, and I found John Peel.

mark e, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

My father bought a Hank Williams greatest hits album and played it for three years straight, along with Johnny Cash's Live at Folsom Prison. He was a Ry Cooder fan and loved Linda Ronstadt's Mexican work and John Fahey's Christmas album. My brother and I discovered his 45s at some point, Marty Robbins and Ray Price and those people. When I was in high school, he took up guitar again and played blues, country and Mexican music. I grew up to be a professional musician and songwriter and I'm very thankful for the music that he exposed me to.

banjoboy, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link

pretty much none for me either

my mum wasn't really into music that much, she would put radio 1 on and she did have a few records but I don't remember her listening to them often, and it was mostly stuff I hated like Lionel Ritchie and Midge Ure. she did buy me a Madness compilation LP that I used to play a lot when I was little

my dad likes soul music but at the time I started getting into music he was into Alexander O'Neal and the Christians which aren't my cup of tea, although I love lots of 60s and 70s soul. plus I wasn't round at my dad's that often anyway for him to have much influence on me

my uncle was the only family member to influence me musically I think. he was a punk and was into the Cure, Stranglers etc. I remember playing him my Doolittle cassette when I was about 14/15 when he was living at our house for a bit and talking about bands

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 13 July 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

I know I've mentioned this here and there, but my parents owned one Beatles album: the Yellow Submarine soundtrack. They owned one Stones album: Goats Head Soup (just the sleeve, though; the LP had been stolen eons earlier). They owned one Dylan album: Self-Portrait. Needless to say, I didn't get into any of those acts until decades later. My mom did have some Peter, Paul and Mary and Simon and Garfunkel, so there was that. My dad I think played a bit of Tom Lehrer, so there was that, too. Don't know how much any of this informed my own listening tastes, except that I didn't really listen to any of it! Oh, with the exception of '50s rock and roll, which came from my dad. I loved it as a kid and love it now. He had tons of '45s, big hits to novelties. Oh, and reggae. My dad inexplicably loved reggae, so I grew up hearing a lot of Bob Marley's Natty Dread and The Harder They Come soundtrack and the like, and I still love reggae.

Many years later, though, they never stopped me from listening to anything I wanted, which was an indirect influence. Rush and Run DMC, The Clash and Creedence, PE, GNR and REM, they never made me turn anything off, and often let me listen to stuff at the dinner table, and def. in the car, which was cool.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 July 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

Oh, my dad did have a reel to reel, which I used to record stuff off the radio. Once I found a used reel that he (or someone) had used to copy Neil Young's Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, which is cool but a head scratcher, since it seemed the last thing he would ever listen to.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

Not directly. I’d pick up various things to listen to from their album collection here and there, and certain albums were recurrent favorites they’d play. The influence was more in the fact that they *weren’t* ‘active’ music collectors or concert-goers but simply general appreciators, folks born in the 40s who just listened to things that struck their fancy, and who generally listened to top 40 radio when I was growing up. Never got a sense that I couldn’t or shouldn’t listen to certain music, and just let me find my halting way forward of my own volition.

As individual listeners, my dad’s always been an active country fan and he’s kinda great to take the temperature of the genre with — he happily enjoys more traditional country but equally rolls with what’s currently on the charts, it’s all part of the continuum. Generally speaking he listens to country radio only in the car, though.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

Their copies of Songs About Fucking and Watashi Dake made a strong impression early on.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

Actually, they weren't really big music fans and would sometimes say that musical aptitude was not something that ran in our family. They did occasionally put on tapes of Carnatic music (dubbed from friends) or take us to the odd performance; I still like that music a lot. This may have helped build an appreciation for drones, intricate rhythms, and improvisation. (In my 20s, my Dad actually took an interest in some of my free or avant jazz albums, which was the first time he showed any interest in anything non-Carnatic that I listened to.) We'd sometimes sing bhajans. They generally hate rock music, especially my Dad, who has a viscerally intense revulsion to it that I struggle to understand. He would attribute any number of moral failings or corruptive properties to the music or people who listened to it. He did like watching Lawrence Welk on TV. They thought spending much money on music was a bizarre waste, since you could just tape things off the radio, which probably did lead to me spending a lot of time listening to the radio and watching MuchMusic and discovering weird things through our two campus stations and CBC (which still played weird things then). They were willing to pay money for lessons but often strongly, sometimes aggressively, discouraged spending too much much time on playing or practising. They did favour learning classical over anything else, though, although they didn't have a strong appreciation for Western classical music themselves. They've softened on a lot of things more lately (and started singing regularly as part of a bhajan group in my Dad's retirement). Still, if they left an indelible mark when I was growing up, it was probably largely in terms of something to react against?

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

I'm somewhat amazed at how limited a role cultural reproduction has played for most of you (when it comes to music, at least).

Interesting that there are so few 'rebellious' cases, incidentally. Sund4r's appears to be the first. I was expecting a couple of classic narratives along the lines of 'I got into no wave/thrash/free jazz/etc. to piss off mom and dad'.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

(also: lol)

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pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

Played a big role for me. My dad was a huge Dylan fan and that rubbed off. My mom had cool taste in the ‘80s, and a lot of good records — I listened to her R.E.M. tapes in middle school as part of becoming a fan myself, I think I even got into VU/Lou Reed via my mom.

stan by me (morrisp), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

I mean even the records I listened to a lot as a young kid — Prince, Madonna, MJ — my parents bought those, it’s not like I was going to Penguin Feather with my lunch money.

stan by me (morrisp), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

Cyndi Lauper, Talking Heads, Dire Straits — music that cool thirtysomethings listened to in the ‘80s.

stan by me (morrisp), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

i remember liking when my mom played her deee-lite albums on tape in the car when i was a toddler. so yes.

other than that my parents mostly just gave me stuff they had that they thought i would like based on what i had already expressed enthusiasm for. that meant disco compilations, donna summer and michael jackson albums + certain beethoven symphonies.

age 9 or 10 is around the time when i was basically finding whatever i wanted to listen to and the thought of getting ideas from my parents (or accepting unsolicited recommendations) seemed downright silly. mid-to-late teens is when i started surreptitiously fishing around in their collections out of curiosity.

dyl, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

No

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

Yes

flappy bird, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

Yes

brimstead, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

Definitely. My dad was a huge trad jazz fan (and was actually writing a book about it before he was sidetracked by national service) but both my parents loved Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Oscar Peterson. He gave me a great history of jazz book when I was about 11 or 12 where I must have first read the words "Miles Davies". They didn't have a lot of records but what they had were mostly golden. I especially remember them having Talking Book and looking at the, er, groovy looking dude on the cover. But more importantly they used to go to parties a lot and we kids would hang around going through the records which is where I first heard Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Funkadelic, Sly, the Velvets and, most influential of all to me probably, Kraftwerk. My mum's cousin had it. His wife said - as I looked in bewilderment at the cover of Autobahn - "that's one of his weird ones". Thinking about it now, I'm wondering what the other weird ones were.

Ned Trifle X, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

My mother never played music in the house, but had some records presumably left from a more free wheeling youth. I remember Carole King, Herb Alpert, and some more sleazy mood muzak for when she was getting it on.

Zero influence, whatsoever.

despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

I'm somewhat amazed at how limited a role cultural reproduction has played for most of you (when it comes to music, at least).

you don't need to reproduce any culture when you've got a TV

j., Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link

Of course , how could it not? In heavy rotation were queens greatest, the Sat night fever soundtrack, marley’s uprising and exodus

calstars, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

you don't need to reproduce any culture when you've got a TV

There's usually a modicum of rivalry between cultural strands acquired via mass media, the family unit and one's social environment, all of which overlap to varying degrees. But yeah, I take your point.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link

Interesting thread anyways, thanks for starting it pomenitul.

Ned Trifle X, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

My pleasure! And thank you all for your answers.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

I have respect for pomentful because he nominated 新しい日の誕生 in the ambient pool even though it’s not ambient

calstars, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link

Rateyourmusic begs to differ. I've got a host of ambient black blocs standing right behind me, waiting to strike.

pomenitul, Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link

indelible, yes, applicable to 95% of what I listen to, no

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 July 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link

you don't need to reproduce any culture when you've got a TV

― j.

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Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

I've mentioned some of this stuff before, but:

- My dad was into 1950s music, but he liked doo-wop more than rock 'n' roll; I'm pretty sure his favorite song of all time was the Moonglows' "The Ten Commandments of Love". I have an appreciation for doo-wop, but it's nothing I listen to regularly.
- My mom liked the Beatles (who I hate) and the Rolling Stones (who I like) and when I was a teenager, we connected over some newer stuff that we both liked, like Talking Heads' Stop Making Sense, New Order's Substance, and Iggy Pop's Blah-Blah-Blah. She liked Iggy's voice. She hated Brian Johnson's voice, though, so I was not allowed to listen to AC/DC in the house. Also, she once told me "Jazz is music for people who think they're smart" and I've never really gotten over that, honestly. It cracks me up every time I think about it.

I mostly learned about music from the radio until I was about 13, and then older kids. There were two brothers who lived across the street who I wasn't supposed to hang around with and they had an amazing record collection - all the typical hard rock stuff (Kiss, Led Zeppelin, etc.) but a ton of Zappa, some Residents, some Beefheart, etc. and that was a big influence early on. There was another older kid further down the block whose mom was my mom's best friend, and from him I learned about Hüsker Dü and the Replacements and a bunch of other stuff I liked better.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link

My dad loved to listen to music - I definitely got that up from him. He usually had music on in the house via a big reel-to-reel machine. However he was primarily into classical and opera neither of which I enjoy. He bought a few Beatles records, some Simon & Garfunkel, Cat Stevens and Crosby, Stills & Nash though I never heard him actually listen to them. I don't remember anything he listened to in the car besides NPR. I have a soft spot for singer-songwriters so maybe I that influenced me (or it was just the early 70s radio).

that's not my post, Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link

<3 Sund4r's post

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link

his mum did like stairway to heaven though!

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link

my parents only had classical music records, and my father played opera and smoked cigars when as kids we were conscripted to separate and bag marigold seeds for his horticultural experiments

Dan S, Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:48 (four years ago) link

I think about that a lot, it is a great memory

Dan S, Sunday, 14 July 2019 00:56 (four years ago) link

My parents both loved to sing, and singalongs with their family and friends at our home were an indelible part of my youth. They sang tin pan alley, broadway musicals, 40s and 50s country and western, folk revival, but very little rock n' roll, though my Mom liked Elvis. Dad had a reel to reel that played constantly - opera, Bing Crosby, West Side Story, Petula Clark, Mahalia Jackson... I grew up to be a professional musician and vocalist. These days, among my musical projects, I regularly play at retirement homes and assisted living facilities, and make use of the repertoire I learned as a kid from my parents.

Ρεμπετολογια, Sunday, 14 July 2019 04:25 (four years ago) link

This is an interesting thread. My boring answer is basically "not much really". My father apparently liked jazz and hard rock before I was born and a very small number of LPs stored next to the stereo hinted at the same. Though these were part of a broader collection of mostly middle-of-road record club issues, the sort of things -- Neil Diamond, Mrs Miller, Johnny Mathis -- that have dominated charity store stock for some decades now and which, on reflection, seem a bit 'old' for either parent. Absolutely no classical though. Regardless, no-one ever seemed to listen to any of it.

My mother had definitely liked the Beatles and the Carpenters, but she didn't seem to have accrued many recordings, such that she didn't inflict her tastes on others either. I remember rock radio being on in the background in the '80s but they seemed to have become fairly passive listeners by the time they were parents.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 14 July 2019 05:52 (four years ago) link

My Dad was a big fan of Moby Grape's first album which is probably his lone contribution that I wouldn't have necessarily gotten elsewhere.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Sunday, 14 July 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

And Van Morrison was my Dad's favorite, which I rebelled against to some degree early on, but ultimately came around.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Sunday, 14 July 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

When I was seventeen, I once came home from a friend's house after a heavy bong session and my parents were drinking wine and dancing around the kitchen to the Parliaments. And the first song I remember hearing is the 1961 studio version of "Night Train" by James Brown, when I was about four. So, I'd say yes, my parents have pretty decent taste and that certainly impacted my own.

A few years back I was visiting and my mom and I were driving somewhere, listening to NPR, and they used part of "Daydream Nation" as interlude music...and my mom said, "You used to listen to this song, right? It's Sonic Youth."

She's almost 70! Lol.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

Listening to Sade, Anita Baker, and Basia in my parents' car, in addition to the local top 40 station (Mom knew pop acts well into the mid '90s), had an incalculable effect on my tastes. They also dug Santana, the Beatles, Herb Alpert, Stevie Wonder, etc.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

My Mom was president of the Hoboken, NJ Frank Sinatra fanclub for a bit when she was young, Dad was going to NYC jazz clubs. They are pretty open-minded about all kinds of music now.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

They thought spending much money on music was a bizarre waste

The rest of the world does seem to have caught up with my parents here tbf.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

She's almost 70! Lol.

So is Kim Gordon

stan by me (morrisp), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link

touché

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

My folks had music in the house - lots of Elton John, Carpenters - but it didn't seem to ever be the cause of much jouissance. But as I've got closer to my old man as we've both got older we've bonded over lots of music and it turns how he's got a really good voice. We've had a few, ah, late nights with Van Morrison and Frank Sinatra and one session where we saw the sun up listening over and over to Terry Callier. He's since become Uncle Terry and he'll frequent text me to say he's listening to him.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Sunday, 14 July 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

She's almost 70! Lol.

So is Kim Gordon

― stan by me (morrisp), Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:06 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

fair enough, but if you knew much more about my mom, you'd find it as remarkable as i do.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 14 July 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link

I hear you

stan by me (morrisp), Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link

my Dad was huge into ELP and Todd Rundgren which definitely shaped my tastes for a long time. it was weird getting online and hearing people talk about ELP as being over the top and pompous, as someone who loved them from the age of 5 I thought that was the whole point. It wasn't until someone informed me of King Crimson that I realized there was an entire scene of this stuff.

he's also a great piano player - when we were over at his house he'd play all the time, usually stuff from the musicians he liked (though obviously I didn't recognize any of it). when I finally got into Todd it was surreal hearing all these melodies I remembered as a kid

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

another thing...my parents were from Akron and both had a copy of Devo's greatest hits...that definitely changed my life

frogbs, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

my dad is very into classical music and I would often wake up to the sound of him playing piano. there was a lot of romantic piano music (schumann his first love), bach piano transcriptions, the occasional bit of faure or ravel or grainger, and he has been involved in a lot of choirs over the years. I wasn't too opposed to that stuff and often pretty interested, albeit selectively, and I think I developed a p good 'feel' for it and a modest grounding: there are dozens of pieces I know well but can't name, I took piano lessons, sung in choirs, did a bit of theory, got dragged to concerts etc. at the same time his open disdain for most pop music had the effect you'd expect, I remember him saying with some disgust when it came on the tv that flat beat by mr oizo wasn't music and ofc that cemented in my mind that it was a powerful work of genius.

it was quite hard to get overlap with my mum, who wasn't as musical, but liked some classical music and also quite a bit of 60s&70s folksy/singer-songwriter stuff (baez, dylan, judy collins &c.), so in the car we'd often get an odd array of compromise stuff: trad british folk music, the beach boys, nina simone, tubular bells, the proclaimers. I think it helped give me an early appreciation that there were v different ways of enjoying music & made me p open. I still chat to my dad about music quite a bit and swap recommendations

ogmor, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

I'm oddly fond of the notion that x song/composition 'isn't music' because it implies an endearingly confident and wide-eyed sense of what music is.

pomenitul, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Ime, it usually indicates an uninterestingly simple and traditional sense of what music is. Dunno about ogmor's Dad, though. Sounds like he might have had a sophisticated and more well-developed conception.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 15 July 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

So weird to see people whose parents listened to rock music. My dad was strictly of the lush Mantovani/101 Strings type (with an occasional uptempo foray into Herb Alpert.) Of course I loathed that music as a teenager, but it's amazing how hearing a bit of it now induces a hazy sort of melancholy.

Mom never even turned on the radio much, but she sang around the house a lot. Hits included: "Danny Boy," vintage country like "El Paso" and "He'll Have To Go", and "Music Music Music" by Teresa Brewer. I went on to appreciate and listen to more 50s pop music than she probably ever did.

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Monday, 15 July 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

my folks always liked music but it was 50/60s stuff, mum liked shirley bassey, barbra streisand. Easy listening singers. My dad didnt like those 2 but he probably enjoys those type of singers in general. Celine, Subo along with the usual old C&W and irish country stuff all scottish dads seemed to love.
They did get a CD player in 87 and always bought me until then pop 7" singles and then CD albums then a year later my own cd stereo.

I think i borrowed 2 albums out of my dads collection - rolling stones through the past darkly and bob dylan. That was the only interesting stuff he had.

My dad bought the lewis capaldi CD the other week :(

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Monday, 15 July 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

Yes, I hated nearly all of it and was uninterested in music until I began discovering it for myself. They listened to mostly soft rock, late 50's/early 60's folk and country music.

Suffice to say I got into techno/IDM, alternative, metal and classics like Queen/Pink Floyd pretty aggressively, which in total was pretty much the opposite of what they listened to.

octobeard, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

Three artists really stuck out to my young ears from those early listening years (when I was 2-5): The Charlie Daniel's Band's The Devil Went Down to Georgia, anything by Pete Seeger, and anything by Johnny Cash, who would eventually be the first artist I would see perform live.

octobeard, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

my mum was 19 when she had me in 1988 and some of my earliest memories are of her and my step-dad going out to gigs and clubs. They spent the 90s going to see acts like Underworld and Faithless. They were already too young to really be enjoying The Heritage Canon of The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen etc so it was never really present when I was growing up, so I never really had that exposure and so not only am I not familiar but that stuff doesn't interest me - it just seemed so ancient when I was growing up and now I live in a world where I can listen to anything at time via Spotify and Youtube, so why would I bother? People find it strange when I tell them that for all I love music, I don't love *that kind* of music, and act as if my parents failed me by not indoctrinating me into the history of rock. My step-dad's three obsessions were New Order, The Blue Nile and David Bowie. I adore the former two (although it took a bit of time to really get into The Blue Nile, probably too sophisticated and calm for childhood ears brought up on dance music). But I cannot stand Bowie at all.

When they did listen to music not designed for going out, it was very Britpop indie, lots of Oasis and The Verve type stuff. They weren't really into pop and had a rockist perspective which I didn't really shake off until I was in my late teens, basically when I was old enough to legally buy alcopops and dance to Girls Aloud in a public space. They had some terrible music in their voluminous collection and I retaliated by consuming some even worse music - lots of over-earnest singer-songwriter stuff that was both Terribly Authentic but Not Rock. It's hard to rebel and find your own voice when your parents are actually quite cool.

my brother is three years younger than me and hit his teens at the peak of nu-metal's commercial breakthrough so he had a ready-made sonic identity designed to piss off the whole family.

boxedjoy, Monday, 15 July 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link

one way that I'm VERY like my parents - I have zero recollection of them ever going to the cinema or watching a movie at home, they were just always playing music if the soaps weren't on. My own cinematic knowledge is terrible - I've seen Disney movies from 1992-1999ish and anything else I've ever watched has been mostly social situations of peer pressure. I haven't been in a cinema in nine years and I'm not curious to repeat the experience at all, and it is very rare I watch an entire movie in one sitting. For them and for me, it's just a lot more fun to enjoy music. They might be a pair of bastards but I'm a lot more like them than I want to admit.

boxedjoy, Monday, 15 July 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

My mom would've been That Creepy Lady With Elvis Decorations All Over The House if left to her own devices and now every time I hear his voice I want to vomit so maybe

yeah but how, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

My dad in particular influenced me in that he bought a lot of music, was in classical music club and would buy LPs on his lunch break, so a few new records in rotation every month. Drilled holes in the floor and ran speaker wire under the house to play the hifi in the kitchen, the living room, his office. As teens in the 50s, my Dad had been into modern jazz, my Mom into the R'n'B of the DC area, but when they met in the 60s they bonded over folk. This developed into a fandom of Fleetwood Mac, Emmylou Harris, Linda Ronstadt, The Chieftains.

I've realized the two records they played that have affected my lifetime listening the most were things my Mom especially loved: Music of the Ozarks (https://www.discogs.com/Various-Music-Of-The-Ozarks/release/2754062) which had songs she remembered as a little kid in Arkansas, and the Donna Summer comp Walk Away, which she'd use to power calisthenics.

bendy, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

Yes. It made me realize indie snobs have nothing on northern soul fans. Lol. My dad listened exclusively to NS. I never heard chart pop until I turned ten-ish and discovered music. But happy I heard all that NS growing up.

nathom, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

My parents only like classical music and within the classical music their fave is baroque and in that drawer their god is Johann Sebastian Bach. #2 is probably Mozart (quite experimental, not baroque!). #3 maybe Händel.

I love Bach too - especially the Goldberg variations which btw was not part of their huge Bach collection - but besides that they did not give me a lot of inspiration concerning the music I listen o this day. Maybe listening to all that baroque music in my youth influenced my music taste in that way that I was craving for rougher music with harder edges like for example Sonic Youth.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

my dad has always been a huge rock fan and perhaps more than anything an accumulator of music (now that used CDs are practically free he buys tons and tons of them, often of artists he doesn't even listen to, I think as long as he has some passing familiarity with the name he'll buy it; I see En Vogue and Mariah Carey discs in his office and I know he's not sitting around bumping those).

when I was growing up though, he had a sizable vinyl collection but the real boon for me were his cassettes since that was my primary medium for consuming music. he used to tape a lot of full albums off the radio and that was my first means of exposure to a lot of stuff. he's always been a pretty broad rock listener but he does have a particular affinity for rootsier types and that influenced a lot of my earliest classic rock listening as well -- his Mount Rushmore is probably Gram Parsons, Neil Young, Van Morrison, and Dylan. even today, he's hugely into Jason Isbell, so I guess old habits die hard.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link

Drilled holes in the floor and ran speaker wire under the house to play the hifi in the kitchen, the living room, his office

that's a GOOD DAD

j., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link

Good thread idea Pom!

Easy answer is no, it didn't. Though in a way I think all of our parents' tastes leave marks, making you either go with it or go against the grain. My parents' lp collection consisted of Creedence, Simon & Garfunkel, Fleetwood Mac, Beatles, Stones, Dire Straits ('Brothers in Arms' was the most sold lp in the world, remember?!), Abba, 60s etc. My mum was a big Roy Orbison and Fats Domino fan. Oh, and The Dubliners lol. Otherwise it was mostly 60s and 70s radio. But it was always on. And I appreciate how many music I got to know through them. It was having the radio on at all times that kind of made me find out my very first likes and dislikes, and steering through that on my own - I vividly remember my mum hating Minnie Riperton's 'Loving You' while I *loved* it, so strange and beautiful and wonderful. And that that was *ok*, that people have different tastes? As obvious as that sounds. She had the Oh Superman 7" that she loved to bits, there was that.

It wasn't until I literally found an lp suitcase full of Tangerine Dream and Schulze and Can and Richard Wahnfried and Miles lp's at my uncle's (my dad's brother) that it felt like stumbling upon a magical portal.

Since my mother died last year, I've seen quite a dramatic shift in his music listening habits. Before it was anything goes. Now, he's completely - and exclusively - tuned to classical music. He can't stomach anything else really. Quite something to witness.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

My belated condolences, LBI.

I do find classical music more comforting than other genres, for whatever reason.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

Neil Diamond

kraudive, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

thanks j.! He was majorly into hifi, though avoided snake oil.

bendy, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

Thank you <3

I mentioned it that for all my life - and the question at hand sort of implies it - that our parents' taste in music seems "fixed" most of the time. A life-altering experience like the death of your loved one can do that, of course, but I was still surprised to see this first (ever) major shift in my dad's musical preferences. If you beg for sounds of comfort or solace, it will make you look for it far and wide. And yet I think it is of a deep beauty that this made him go way beyond his former musical preference and explore this 'terra nova'. He's not just listening to it, he wants to know about it, reads up on things, goes to concerts. That may sound basic but believe me, for my dad this is a big transformation. If anything I'm glad for it.

Perhaps it's something for a different thread, but the radical change in musical taste of a parent is something to behold.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

(xp to pom)

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

That's genuinely heartwarming. I'm sure he'll draw sustenance from it for many years to come!

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

The most notable difference between us, perhaps, is that neither of them has much patience for extreme dissonance and avant-garde gestures.
Anyhow, I'm especially curious about those for whom the exact opposite happened.

― pomenitul, Saturday, July 13, 2019 4:02 PM

I'd say Ash Ra Tempel is pretty avant garde.

My mother had quite a big influence. But it was a very delayed influence, I didn't get into most of the stuff until a decade later, but the memories of hearing it were surely important.
She played Blue Nile, REM, Talk Talk, Tango-era Fleetwood Mac, Portishead. I never got massively into Pet Shop Boys or Annie Lennox but I'm considering buying them someday. The only one that wasn't delayed was Radiohead, I picked that up immediately and it was then that I realized music was worth actively seeking out and treating as important.
There was loads of stuff I'll probably never have a great deal of enthusiasm for (Simply Red, Phil Collins, Mike And The Mechanics) and sadly the only new bands she seems to like are Coldplay inspired.

Dad mostly likes hit singles from his youth and very seldom appreciates anything else. Several years ago my dad put on a "blues classics that inspired The Rolling Stones" compilation and he was hilariously narrow minded about it, he just kept skipping the tracks and saying "shite" to each track. As if he thought The Rolling Stones were idiots for liking these blues songs.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 July 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

my parent's copy of CCR's Chronicle taught me so much about simplicity and how to arrange music

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 July 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link


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