How did they sell out THAT place? - venue size shocker

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Now that music consumption is primarily streaming-based, I find that I have no idea how big an artist's fan base really is.
This summer, Bon Iver is playing the basketball arena in my town (capacity: 19,500) but Carly Rae Jepsen is playing the House of Blues (capacity: 2,500).
Maybe i've been reading too much ILM, but I would have guessed it the other way around.

Other surprising examples?

enochroot, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 01:45 (four months ago) link

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space invaders are smokin penises!!!! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 01:49 (four months ago) link

Bon Iver’s last album (from 2016) “debuted at number two on the Billboard 200 with 71,000 units, of which 58,000 were traditional album sales. It was the highest-selling album of the week.”

Jepsen’s recent album “debuted at number 18 on the US Billboard 200, with 21,000 album-equivalent units, which included 13,000 pure album sales.”

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 01:58 (four months ago) link

CRJ’s venue size sounds right, Bon Iver is the shocker. He’s playing a hockey arena here too that typically only sees concerts from the likes of Ariana, Taylor, Elton, and Springsteen.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:33 (four months ago) link

honestly a little surprised that Dedicated flopped even more than Emotion did

ufo, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:54 (four months ago) link

i've been having this thought a few times a month for probably five years. i figure it's a combo of me getting old and the changing industry.

anyway, how about Vulfpeck playing Madison Square Garden:

https://www.msg.com/calendar/madison-square-garden-september-2019-vulfpeck-with-fearless-flyers

alpine static, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 04:00 (four months ago) link

schedule for the 7500 capacity venue near me has got some minor surprises/arguable gambles (Ghost, Fat Freddy's Drop) and, booked nearly 18 months in advance, a band from London called the Dualers I have literally never heard of

wot's the tea mum? (not beef again) (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 05:58 (four months ago) link

Jepsen’s recent album “debuted at number 18 on the US Billboard 200, with 21,000 album-equivalent units, which included 13,000 pure album sales.”

http://www.thecommunitypaper.com/images/chuckle.jpg

buzza, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 06:43 (four months ago) link

I'm a little surprised to see Tame Impala headlining festivals this summer...

henry s, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 08:40 (four months ago) link

there are a lot of REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED who like albums tbf

Wes Wood (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 08:49 (four months ago) link

All these middle-of-the-road indie-folk rock bands are massive you guys. Definitely been on ILX too long.

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 08:49 (four months ago) link

Ghost selling out arenas in the US last year.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 08:55 (four months ago) link

The Australian Pink Floyd have played the O2/Wembley Arena in London to 12-15,000 people.

some just artists have no obvious cultural visibility/journos are bored of them now (or just dont see them as cool enough to cover), so you no longer see reviews or features anywhere despite the fact that normal people really do listen to / continue to listen to these bands a lot.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 09:26 (four months ago) link

I was pretty surprised to see Dropkick Murphys are playing Alexandra Palace (cap 10,250).

I looked at other events there and even more improbable to me is King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 09:37 (four months ago) link

What Size places are king gizzard doing? They’ll fill a 2000 seater several night in a row in Melbourne burn thta is hometown.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 09:46 (four months ago) link

10,250

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 09:47 (four months ago) link

xps yeah the thread whose name I can never remember but something to the effect of "you don't care about them anymore but they're actually bigger now than when they were a hype band" is a relevant corrective

wot's the tea mum? (not beef again) (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 10:10 (four months ago) link

i figure it's a combo of me getting old and the changing industry.

this has always been my suspicion too. for instance, i've never even heard of Vulfpeck

enochroot, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 11:40 (four months ago) link

Yeah, Vulfpeck were first thing I thought of when I saw this thread. Friend said he was going to see them earlier this year. Hadn't heard of them, watched the YouTube clip he sent me and assumed they'd be playing somewhere like Dalston Vortex, not two nights at Brixton Academy. Also a bit surprised (but pleased) to see that Big Thief are gonna be playing Hammersmith Odeon next year.

Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 12:08 (four months ago) link

Excellent thread idea, I have these thoughts all the time now. Can't think of "oh, they're really that big?" right now, more like acts that I've never heard of that sell out a 3,500 capacity venue here and have literally hundreds of millions of streams.

Just looking at the current calendar of this venue:

-AJR (apparently pop-EDM, exact the sort of thing that makes sense to be huge but have no critical presence or word-of-mouth from anyone I know)

-Cigarettes After Sex (kind of noirish dream-pop, could easily imagine this being released on an indie Bandcamp label with a few thousand streams & small club shows, rather than millions + big theater tours, but sure?)

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 15:24 (four months ago) link

Bill Callahan is playing the 3,000 capacity Edinburgh Usher Hall and stalls will not be seated. I appreciate he's more popular than ever but this makes no sense to me

PaulTMA, Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:04 (four months ago) link

misfits playing msg

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 11 July 2019 16:23 (four months ago) link

the first band I remember really thinking this was The 1975 (in America), but that was years ago

alpine static, Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:59 (four months ago) link

xp - re Bill Callahan. A friend and I are thinking of going but were taken aback that was the venue. I think Calexico and Iron & Wine are playing there too.

Both Bombay Bicycle Club and Royal Blood are booked for Dundee’s similarly-sized Caird Hall this autumn (around 3,500 depending on the seated / standing split).

michaellambert, Thursday, 11 July 2019 18:47 (four months ago) link

I often think this about festival bills. But yeah, we're old.

kraudive, Thursday, 11 July 2019 20:21 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

lol Bon Iver moved from Wells Fargo (20k) to Liacouras (10k)

The show in Philadelphia on 10/10 at Wells Fargo Center has been moved to the Liacouras Center on the campus of Temple University. All tix purchased for Wells Fargo Center will automatically be transferred to the Liacouras Center in equal or better seating locations. [1/2] pic.twitter.com/KVTuuaYMUG

— Bon Iver (@boniver) August 19, 2019

Frozen CD, Monday, 19 August 2019 19:36 (two months ago) link

yeah Vulfpeck is weird, younger guy I worked with loves them, first time I'd heard of them

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:11 (two months ago) link

Father John Misty/Jason Isbell played an 8400 capacity place that the 1975 played recently, Billy Eilish too

I knew they had good followings, but I didnt think that big, though I guess both could probably headline

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:14 (two months ago) link

see: every single contemporary jam band

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 19 August 2019 20:14 (two months ago) link

an endless number of EDM acts with really terrible names that ilm or philip sherburne wouldn't touch with a 10 ft pole

https://armorymn.com/events/ganja-white-night-buds/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:17 (two months ago) link

i had tickets for gillian welch at the hollywood bowl and it was only on the night of the show that i realized she was supporting father john misty (who i had never heard of). in fact if i try hard i have still never heard of him.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:18 (two months ago) link

Father John Misty/Jason Isbell played an 8400 capacity place that the 1975 played recently, Billy Eilish too

I knew they had good followings, but I didnt think that big, though I guess both could probably headline

The Misty/Isbell tour played a 5,000 capacity indie-leaning amphitheatre here in Houston that surprisingly enough Misty himself headlined at on his prior tour. Isbell himself has been a 1000+ theatres the last couple times he's been in town.

Billie Eilish has graduated to big arenas: she's headlining the Toyota Center (18 thou capacity) this fall.

Sturgill Simpson's two most recent headline shows here were at 5,000 seat venues. He sold out a 500 capacity club before that.

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 August 2019 20:37 (two months ago) link

tame impala are massive, look at the view counts on their music videos sometime

ciderpress, Monday, 19 August 2019 20:42 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

guster selling out terminal 5 fit in here?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 20 September 2019 20:29 (one month ago) link

Lana Del Rey is now at selling-out-the-biggest-venue-in-Europe stage (Manchester Arena; 21K capacity). I love that it’s happening but it’s kinda surprising, as a coupla albums back she almost seemed like a ‘cult’ artist and was at the local Apollo theatre (3K capacity).

piscesx, Sunday, 22 September 2019 01:48 (one month ago) link

that's interesting because i'm pretty sure her biggest success commercially is still Born to Die and its singles, by a decent margin. oh and "young and beautiful" but that's from a close enough time to count

ufo, Sunday, 22 September 2019 01:59 (one month ago) link

Pretty sure she could sell out at least 8k by her last album

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 22 September 2019 03:26 (one month ago) link


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