Draining the POLL for you - ILM artist poll #98 - The Go-Betweens

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31 respondents selected their favourite Go-Betweens tracks, up to a maximum of thirty.

24 also conveyed opinions on the best albums by said band and associated side-projects.

14 turned their mind to the best individual tracks released by Go-Betweens members in a solo capacity and with such side-projects.

So...three rollouts, effectively. Too much? Possibly!

We'll start with the album votes shortly.

Here's a link for a Spotify list we'll use later. Feel free to help populate it when the time comes:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2a5XW6w5pDfnsl1TuigTYy?si=7LSmmcURSgO5eHD_MsVfqw.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 4 July 2019 22:50 (two weeks ago) link

I'll make a verrrry slow start. Don't fret too much if it's bedtime in your timezone.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 4 July 2019 22:54 (two weeks ago) link

Cool. Is that playlist public?

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:05 (two weeks ago) link

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24 people voted for up to 10 albums. Pretty much any album released by enduring Go-Betweens members, together or alone, was eligible.

This will be a rollout of the top 17. Further titles appeared on ballots, but these are the ones that received at least two votes and/or a first-place vote.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:06 (two weeks ago) link

Playlist is marked as collaborative, so as far as I can tell it's public...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:09 (two weeks ago) link

I added a randomly-selected track to it, in case its emptiness is a factor.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:15 (two weeks ago) link

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#17
GW McLENNAN - WATERSHED
September 1991

Points: 5
Votes: 2
First-place votes: 0

When Word Gets Around / Haven't I Been A Fool / Haunted House / Stones For You / Easy Come Easy Go / Black Mule // Putting The Wheels Back On / You Can't Have Everything / Sally's Revolution / Broadway Bride / Just Get That Straight / Dream About Tomorrow

"Stylistically, McLennan wears many hats, without committing to any one. Though this approach might spell disaster for lesser artists, the veteran singer/songwriter dabbles effortlessly. The key is his knack for splicing clever hooks with perfectly turned phrases, many of which are spoken rather than sung. Nothing on Watershed forsakes the song for style -- though a few tracks would be better with less excess ("Putting the Wheels Back On"). Most also suffer from dated and increasingly stale production. With tiny highs and muffled lows, the album lacks a certain brightness present in his later recordings." - Norm Elrod

Youtube audio track: Haunted House

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:20 (two weeks ago) link

Might have been. Now I can see, thanks

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:21 (two weeks ago) link

The sad thing is that it's harder to find McLennan's reflections on his post-80s work than Forster's. For obvious reasons, I guess. Quotes from other parties will dominate his long-player entries.

I'll leave it at one entry for a little while...

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:27 (two weeks ago) link

Always been worried that it's an Oakland Raiders fan wielding the razor on the 'Watershed' album cover. (x-post)

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:28 (two weeks ago) link

I only realised this week how often he was photographed in that hat.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 4 July 2019 23:43 (two weeks ago) link

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#16
GRANT McLENNAN - IN YOUR BRIGHT RAY
July 1997

Points: 6
Votes: 2
First-place votes: 0

In Your Bright Ray / Cave In / One Plus One / Sea Breeze / Malibu 69 / Who Said Love Was Dead / Room For Skin / All Them Pretty Angels / Comet Scar / Down Here / Lamp By Lamp / Do You See the Lights? / The Parade of Shadows

"By far the best of McLennan's solo works, the album is consistent, upbeat, and extremely strong musically and lyrically. It was produced by Wayne Connolly, who had been recommended to McLennan by Brett Myers of Died Pretty. McLennan was interested because he had enjoyed Connolly's production work for the Underground Lovers." - David Nichols

Youtube audio track: Cave In

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 00:00 (two weeks ago) link

Nichols might be of one of IYBR's biggest fans. He praises it at several points in his GBs book.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 00:02 (two weeks ago) link

Couldn’t get it together to vote in this poll but will certainly be kibitzing if nobody minds too much.

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 July 2019 00:12 (two weeks ago) link

Never paid attention to those two Grant albums, maybe because Alfred didn’t blog about them.

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 July 2019 00:12 (two weeks ago) link

But now that I am listening some of the tunes are familiar from other contexts, such as “Black Mule.”

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 July 2019 00:23 (two weeks ago) link

Kibitzing is good! Last one for a while...

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#15
ROBERT FORSTER - SONGS TO PLAY
September 2015

Points: 6
Votes: 3
First-place votes: 0

Learn to Burn / Let Me Imagine You / Songwriters On The Run / And I Knew / A Poet Walks // I'm So Happy For You / Love Is Where It Is / Turn On The Rain / I Love Myself (And I Always Have) / Disaster In Motion

"it’s such a different record… when I was doing Warm Nights and I was in Edwyn Collins’ studio, and I’m in London, I sort of knew it was going to sound a certain way. But this was in Brisbane, in a studio on a mountain, analog, the gear had just arrived… so I had no idea! So it really was, after we’d made the album, we were sitting at home and going 'what are people going to make of this?'" - RF

Youtube audio track: I'm So Happy For You

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 00:44 (two weeks ago) link

I seemed to like this one way more than many in these parts, but it still slipped off the end of my ballot.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 00:46 (two weeks ago) link

those first two tracks you posted i was unfamiliar with - they're so dreamy and at the same time are reminders dreams are part of reality

one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 July 2019 00:52 (two weeks ago) link

Songs To Play might've made my ballot had we done this poll before Inferno came out.

gardening@night, Friday, 5 July 2019 00:53 (two weeks ago) link

In Your Bright Ray is by far my favourite of Grant's albums. I've never been able to get into any of the others in the same way.

I've gone back to Songs To Play a lot. Robert's been on such great form recently.

kitchen person, Friday, 5 July 2019 02:04 (two weeks ago) link

He has. I love his new one as well. And obviously The Evangelist will be quite high in this.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 5 July 2019 02:52 (two weeks ago) link

Just looking the final tracks results for the first time. I think there might have been enough votes to support a solo/side project rollout of the TOP FORTY. Does that seem too much in addition to the actual Go-Betweens rollout proper, which is likely to be bigger still? LOL.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 03:15 (two weeks ago) link

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#14
THE GO-BETWEENS - BRIGHT YELLOW BRIGHT ORANGE
February 2003

Points: 7
Votes: 3
First-place votes: 0

Caroline and I / Poison in the Walls / Mrs Morgan / In Her Diary / Too Much of One Thing // Crooked Lines / Old Mexico / Make Her Day / Something for Myself / Unfinished Business

"We had a PA and monitors in the studio, which they had hardly ever seen, and we basically played a lot of it very, very live. There's overdubs, of course, but it's mainly bass, drums, guitars, vocals. Just people strumming in a room. It's very much the way people recorded from the late '60s to the mid-'70s, the way we've done this album. And very counter to the way we recorded in the '80s." - RF

Youtube audio track: Old Mexico

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 06:17 (two weeks ago) link

Firmly the weakest of the three reunion albums, despite a couple of classic Robert tracks. I'm up for a top 40 solo btw.

Alba, Friday, 5 July 2019 06:44 (two weeks ago) link

I frequently like the sound of it when it's playing but, even after this period of immersion, I can't bring to mind several of those tracks from their titles.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 06:54 (two weeks ago) link

This is an interesting one. Not so much a 'best-of' as Xgau suggests, more a condensate of BH + SHF for the USA. I see no reason to exclude it and can easily imagine giving it a first-place vote myself if I'd grown up with it. :) It seems the cassette had additional tracks -- denoted by *.

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#13
THE GO-BETWEENS - METAL AND SHELLS
1985 (compilation)

Points: 10
Votes: 1
First-place votes: 1

Part Company / Bachelor Kisses / By Chance / That Way / Draining The Pool For You / Man O'Sand To Girl O'Sea / Ask* // Cattle And Cane / Unkind & Unwise / As Long As That / A Bad Debt Follows You / You've Never Lived / Slow Slow Music / This Girl, Black Girl*

"When what the Brits call pop isn't popular, it's usually rock and roll chamber music if it's any good at all. This U.S. debut, a best-of that highlights the soulful ache in the vocals and the quirky opacities in the lyrics and does what it can for a modest tune sense, honors that suspect notion. It's not stylized, and not static either, but it's pretty subtle, and its half-finished edges and kinetic lyricism are best appreciated in tranquility if not repose. Where it can be expected to unfold for quite a while. A-" - Robert Christgau

Youtube audio track: Ask

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 07:43 (two weeks ago) link

(Pssst! It's possible I posted 'Ask' there because I voted for it and am sad that it's unlikely to appear later. But that's a minor spoiler, so don't tell anyone.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 07:54 (two weeks ago) link

The title of that, Metal & Shells, is from the lyrics - and title too, I think- of an early version of the song “Before Hollywood,” iirc.

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 July 2019 10:20 (two weeks ago) link

"When what the Brits call pop isn't popular, it's usually rock and roll chamber music if it's any good at all. This U.S. debut, a best-of that highlights the soulful ache in the vocals and the quirky opacities in the lyrics and does what it can for a modest tune sense, honors that suspect notion. It's not stylized, and not static either, but it's pretty subtle, and its half-finished edges and kinetic lyricism are best appreciated in tranquility if not repose. Where it can be expected to unfold for quite a while. A-" - Robert Christgau

I don't think I'll ever understand the enduring popularity of Christgau's reviews.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 5 July 2019 10:53 (two weeks ago) link

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#12
THE GO-BETWEENS - 78 'TIL 79: THE LOST ALBUM
1999 (compilation)

Points: 12
Votes: 4
First-place votes: 0

Lee Remick / Karen / Help Or Something / Just Hang On / Long Lonely Day / Day For Night / Love Wasn't Made For You And Me / Summer's Melting My Mind / Obsession With You / Rare Victory / The Sound Of Rain / People Say / Don't Let Him Come Back

"The album is a composite of what we were at the time. Remember we were only at second single stage, and had existed for little over a year. But there's an album there, you can hear it. Grant and I, shortly after this period was over, believed it and still do, which is why this is coming out." - RF

Youtube audio track: Karen

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:03 (two weeks ago) link

For 35 years I've thought Metal and Shells was a live album, for some reason. Were they doing the double L thing deliberately by then, or was it still a coincidence?

fetter, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:14 (two weeks ago) link

I've never heard of Metal and Shells before, can't really argue with that tracklist!

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:48 (two weeks ago) link

^ I know right!

Didn't think of the double-L thing. Maybe that could explain the recycling of the title despite jettisoning "Before Hollywood"/"M&S", the song!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:56 (two weeks ago) link

What proportion of ballots included compilations? I left them off mine but I guess you could make a case that the branding of 78-79 could make it an exception.

Alba, Friday, 5 July 2019 11:58 (two weeks ago) link

We've seen the full extent of the compilations now. So 5 selections out of about 200. I vaguely mumbled that the more conventional best-of sets were probably not a great thing to include, and I saw none of those on ballots.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 12:08 (two weeks ago) link

It occurs to me that The Lost Album was the first GBs new release I purchased as an established enthusiast, after collecting secondhand copies of the '80s records in the '90s. I can't say I've returned to those demo tracks terribly often! It's fairly impressive really that Forster was given another opportunity to release even more of that stuff in G is for Go-Betweens.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 12:35 (two weeks ago) link

Um, wait, when did Spring Hill Fair go missing from streaming?

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 July 2019 12:36 (two weeks ago) link

i am surprised that bybo does not get more love. i think there are some of their best songs on it. "caroline & i", "mrs morgan" , "too much of one thing", "make her day" and "something for myself" are five classic gems. with my #1 vote - which unfortunately came in too late for the album poll - bybo would have probably finished in the top ten, wouldn'it?

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 5 July 2019 12:46 (two weeks ago) link

I noticed your number #1 vote just as I was starting this thread and almost went back to redo the number-crunching I'd done the night before. Almost. :) (Rest assured that your tracks were added to the tally, as promised.)

That would have shifted BYBO up to where we are now, but no higher, IIRC. There's a bit of an uptick beyond here.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 12:57 (two weeks ago) link

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#11
GRANT McLENNAN - HORSEBREAKER STAR
December 1994

Points: 22
Votes: 7
First-place votes: 0

Simone & Perry / Lighting Fires / Ice In Heaven / What Went Wrong / Race Day Rag / Don't You Cry For Me No More / Put You Down / Coming Up For Air / Open Invitation / Open My Eyes / From My Lips // Dropping You / Hot Water / Keep My Word / Girl In A Beret / All Her Songs / No Peace In The Palace / I'll Call You Wild / Horsebreaker Star

"One thing I actually like about Horsebreaker Star is how dense it is. I understand the one-note critique but I love that one-note enough that I love throwing it on at random places and letting the distinctions and specific tracks appear to me gradually." - Anthony Miccio

Youtube audio track: Horsebreaker Star

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 13:02 (two weeks ago) link

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 July 2019 13:12 (two weeks ago) link

I was looking for words from you on this one, Alfred! Because I know I've read some at various points, but my search skills apparently evaporated.

That title track sounds great at this instant.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 13:23 (two weeks ago) link

one of the few times on the album he plays electric lead

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 July 2019 13:24 (two weeks ago) link

Alfred’s been waiting to comment throughout this thread the same way Grant waited out that whole album before he busted out the lead at the end.

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 July 2019 13:37 (two weeks ago) link

hi!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 July 2019 13:38 (two weeks ago) link

👋

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 July 2019 13:39 (two weeks ago) link

(XP) I can see a 10-track Sire version of SHF on Spotify from here. But I was almost certainly streaming that expanded one with beloved outtakes quite recently!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 13:55 (two weeks ago) link

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#10
THE GO-BETWEENS - SEND ME LULLABY
November 1981 / February 1982 [expanded (*) Rough Trade issue]

Points: 24
Votes: 6
First-place votes: 0

Your Turn, My Turn* / One Thing Can Hold Us / People Know / The Girls Have Moved* / Midnight to Neon / Eight Pictures* // Careless / All About Strength / Ride / Hold Your Horses / Arrow in a Bow* / It Could Be Anyone

"Send Me A Lullaby is to me an inauspicious debut. It's a record that I think if I'd heard - well, it's hard for me to say that, but if I'd heard that and I wasn't in the band, I think my comment would have been 'What the fuck is going on here.' There's great melodies but then there's changes which to this day I can't work out. There's lyrics to this day which I don't understand and when I actually summon up enough courage to get to the microphone, I sound like a choirboy with a mouthful of fruitcake." - GM

Youtube audio track: Complete SMAL tracklist

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 14:03 (two weeks ago) link

Eeek! "Send me *A* Lullaby", obviously.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 5 July 2019 14:05 (two weeks ago) link

polls like this always give me a greater appreciation of the music.

Dan S, Saturday, 13 July 2019 01:19 (one week ago) link

Yes - thank you Nag, it's been such a pleasure. I think my love for them has been patchy and isolated and gappy - like I've never been in conversations about them, never really known what other people make of them. I mean I came to them 25 years ago expecting/wanting soaring melodies and bittersweet pop, but… I got addicted to some spiky Forster flavour, the funny-sharp writerly songs that catch you in some way that nothing else does. Their best sides. So it's been a joy wandering through the records with ilx.

woof, Saturday, 13 July 2019 01:26 (one week ago) link

Fantastic poll. Many thanks to Mr. Nag for running it. I can say with certainty it will live forever in the Orpheus Beach of my heart.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 13 July 2019 01:36 (one week ago) link

Thanks so much Nag for running this. This has been such a joy to follow and I enjoyed listening through their music in preparation to vote. One of my favourite polls on here.

kitchen person, Saturday, 13 July 2019 01:48 (one week ago) link

Incidentally were there any other voters in East Asian/Pacific timezones? Apologies if you too lost sleep while I attempted to post results a bit closer to ILX peak times. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 July 2019 02:13 (one week ago) link

love

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:46 (one week ago) link

Incidentally were there any other voters in East Asian/Pacific timezones? Apologies if you too lost sleep while I attempted to post results a bit closer to ILX peak times. :)

New Zealand

aphoristical, Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:47 (one week ago) link

Top 20 is exactly half Grant and half Robert.

Alba, Saturday, 13 July 2019 06:53 (one week ago) link

Though if you treat Finding You as a joint song then Robert has the edge but … Grant has the #1 and more of the top 10.

Alba, Saturday, 13 July 2019 07:03 (one week ago) link

This is amusing. I've done the collation for two artist polls here now. This video features both on the same stage. And then they go and perform a rendition of a song by a further Best Band Ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZrYqEqigCM

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 July 2019 08:51 (one week ago) link

XP: NZ! High five!`

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 July 2019 08:55 (one week ago) link

My God, somebody slap that cunt, Murdoch.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 July 2019 09:02 (one week ago) link

LOL. You've not grown fonder of B&S in the past six months then!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 13 July 2019 09:07 (one week ago) link

:)

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 13 July 2019 09:08 (one week ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=7dEgNfpKwi8

While we're on the subject (sorry Tom), there's a line in their song about the Go-Betweens, Shoot the Sexual Athlete, that says Robert "dressed like Sherlock Holmes". It's very apt but does anyone know if he ever literally did this? And, just as importantly, did Grant dress as Dr Watson?

Alba, Saturday, 13 July 2019 10:35 (one week ago) link

Belated thanks to Nag! Nag! Nag! for this poll, it's been great fun. I had 'Bachelor Kisses' at #1 but I can't quibble with 'Cattle & Cane' winning, absolutely amazing song, the opening lines are some of my favourite lyrics in all music. Hadn't realised 'Bye Bye Pride' was so widely loved but on reflection it's one I really should have had on my ballot.

Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 13 July 2019 15:46 (one week ago) link

Nice to see Love Goes On finish so high. That should have been a single.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:23 (one week ago) link

Also IMHO this poll had the single most obvious winner of any poll. Cattle and Cane was always going to win by a comfortable margin

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:26 (one week ago) link

here's my ballot:

Dive For Your Memory
Dusty In Here
Bye Bye Pride
As Long As That
Was There Anything I Could Do?
Draining The Pool For You
A Bad Debt Follows You
Cattle and Cane
Love Goes On!
In The Core of a Flame
Bachelor Kisses
Streets Of Your Town
You've Never Lived
Two Steps Step Out
Spring Rain
Five Words
Someone Else's Wife
Right Here
Palm Sunday (On Board With The S.S. Within)
Love Is a Sign
Head Full of Steam
Man O'Sand to Girl O'Sea
Here Comes a City
That Way
I'm Alright
Darlinghurst Nights
Clouds
The Old Way Out
Born To A Family
By Chance

Albums:
Before Hollywood
16 Lovers Lane
Spring Hill Fair
Tallullah
Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:26 (one week ago) link

here comes the ballot!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 July 2019 16:28 (one week ago) link

I've always wondered about this, never having owned or cared for a swimming pool. Shouldn't it more accurately be Cleaning the Pool for You? I thought that draining is normally done only once or twice a year. It's the drudge work of cleaning a pool at least weekly that a pool boy would get hired for then tired of. Or is it a case where the owner repeatedly needs to have the sucker drained because their debauched pool parties involve broken champagne glasses tossed in? Maybe that's the whole point, and I'm the last to get it?

Not that this has ever bothered my enjoying and loving the song. Draining is certainly more suggestive than prosaic cleaning, and has the added songwriterly benefit of revealing cracks.

punning display, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:30 (one week ago) link

Robert Forster is just a wastrel who thinks two days of work a year is tiring.

Alba, Saturday, 13 July 2019 17:54 (one week ago) link

I'd imagine in NZ you wouldn't have to drain it at all? ppl do you up here because obv water would freeze

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:06 (one week ago) link

can't speak to the colder island climes of NZ, but in Australia ppl will go years without draining a chlorinated and regularly-maintained pool

thanks and huzzahs to N!N!N! for the poll! as a casual G-Bs enjoyer it's been a great time following along, and I especially appreciate the decision to do a thorough separate solo poll.


(something that occurred to me for the first time when I noticed that no Far Out Corporation placed -- is that band the reason that Steve Kilbey cold-called Haug to join The Church sans audition? having long held that P0wderfing3r are the third-worst band in Australia, that was bemusing at the time, but it's not implausible that Kilbey impulsively phoned him on an "anyone good enough for Grant is good enough for me!" principle)

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:24 (one week ago) link

Yeah thanks for this poll, nnn. Still getting into this band myself, but 16LL and Liberty Belle are great and it seems I'm gonna wanna listen to some of the solo stuff as well

Vinnie, Saturday, 13 July 2019 23:36 (one week ago) link

Inevitable question for sic: what are the two worst bands in Aus?

Interesting thought re Haug. I think the FOC record is also the first time either Forster or McLennan worked with Pickvance too. I have no affection whatsoever for that record but am suddenly enjoying the idea that it, of all things, is secretly central to an entire nation's pop music industry. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 14 July 2019 01:39 (one week ago) link

silverchair and Something For Kate

I have no affection whatsoever for that record

as far as late-90s Brisbane supergroups go, it knocks The Boat Show into a cocked hat. and having just watched the two videos for the first time, the CGI in If You Want Release >>>> CGI in the Wu-Tang's Triumph video

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 14 July 2019 08:46 (one week ago) link

While most of the Far Out Corporation album is unmemorable, I put this track pretty high on my solo / side projects ballot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04NHQhUsJEA

Another FOC song, 'Suicide at Home', is also good.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Sunday, 14 July 2019 08:47 (one week ago) link

My ballot:

Cattle and Cane
That Way
Bachelor Kisses
Part Company
Bye Bye Pride
Man O'Sand to Girl O'Sea (single)
Draining the Pool for You
Right Here
Spring Rain
Clouds

Streets of Your Town
Rock and Roll Friend
Dusty in Here
On My Block
A Bad Debt Follows You
Two Steps Step Out
Head Full of Steam
I'm All Right
Apology Accepted
As Long As That

Twin Layers of Lightning
Just a King in Mirrors
Love Goes On
Love Is a Sign
The Wrong Road
The Clarke Sisters
Rare Breed
The Ghost and the Black Hat
Dive for Your Memory
Before Hollywood

Albums:
Before Hollywood
Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express
Spring Hill Fair
Tallulah
16 Lovers Lane
Send Me a Lullaby

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 July 2019 11:43 (one week ago) link

My list:

1. Bye Bye Pride
2. Bachelor Kisses
3. Right Here
4. Cattle and Cane
5. Part Company
6. Lee Remick
7. I'm Allright
8. People Say
9. Going Blind
10. The Statue
11. Spirit
12. Streets of Your Town
13. Before Hollywood
14. Clouds
15. As Long As That
16. When People Are Dead
17. Spring Ran
18. Casanova's Last Words
19. Finding You
20. German Farmhouse
21. Dive For Your Memory
22. Slow Slow Music
23. Newton Told Me
24. The Clock
25. Darlinghurst Nights
26. Love is a Sign
27. You Tell Me
28. Two Steps Step Out
29. You've Never Lived
30. That Way

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:12 (one week ago) link

One thing I've noticed over the years is something of a change of loyalties - It was Grant's songs that initially hooked me into the Go-Betweens and were very much my favourites... but as the years have gone by Robert's capture me much more. I'm listening to Before Hollywood for the first time in years, possibly decades, and this really strikes me. I think it's that Grant's heart-on-his-sleeve style affects me less now I'm older and is more likely to come across as sentimental. Whereas Robert comes at things at more of an angle, he remains a bit more oblique...

Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:16 (one week ago) link

Same for me.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:20 (one week ago) link

My God though, Before Hollywood is so good! Much better than 16LL, good as that is...

Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 14 July 2019 12:21 (one week ago) link

Oh yeah, we haven't had all that much posting of ballots, etc...

Pretty sure these are my track selections wot didn't make the cut. Proud member of Team Send Me A Lullaby Is Not Worthless, clearly.

69 Casanova's Last Words
71 Emperor's Courtesan
74 Ask
79 Newton Told Me
82 The Mountains Near Dellray
83 Eight Pictures
91 It Could Be Anyone

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Sunday, 14 July 2019 13:42 (one week ago) link

thanks for running the poll!

my ballot, which really should've had to reach me on it:

Finding you
Going blind
The Statue
Spirit of a vampyre
Bye bye pride
Hope then strife
The wrong road
The Clarke sisters
Boundary rider
You can’t say no forever
Someone else’s wife
Streets of your town
As long as that
Darlinghurst nights
Spring rain
Born to a family
That way
Was there anything I could do
Love goes on!
I just get caught out
The House jack Kerouac brought
You tell me
German farmhouse
Twin layers of lightning
This Night’s for you
Cattle and cane

Oceans apart
tallullah
16 lovers lane
Danger in the past
Liberty belle and the black diamond express

devvvine, Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:19 (one week ago) link

I am not surprised by the winner but I think they have about fifty songs which I prefer. Here are my three ballots.

Songs (unranked):
Apology Accepted
Bachelor Kisses
Caroline & I
The City of Lights
The Clock
Crystal Shacks
Dive for Your Memory
Finding You
Heart and Home
He Lives My Life
Here Comes a City
Love Goes on!
Magic in Here
Make Her Day
Mrs Morgan
Quiet Heart
Something for Myself
The Statue
This Night’s for You
Streets of Your Town
Surfing Magazines
Too Much of One Thing
Was There Anything I Could Do?
Woman Across the Way
Your Turn, My Turn

Solo etc. (unranked):
Crazy Jane on the Day of Judgement (Forster)
Demon Days (Forster)
Did She Overtake You (Forster)
Fingers (McLennan)
Haven’t Been a Fool (McLennan)
Let Your Light in, Babe (Forster)
Lighting Fires (McLennan)
No Fame (Forster)
No Peace in the Palace (McLennan)
Turn on the Rain (Forster)

Albums (ranked):
Bright Yellow, Bright Orange
16 Lovers Lane
The Friends of Rachel Worth
Oceans Apart
Send Me a Lullabye

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:30 (six days ago) link

Concerning revisions by now I would put Before Hollywood in the album ballot.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:34 (six days ago) link

One thing that didn't make my albums list, because it doesn't really fit, is the bonus disc that came with That Striped Sunlight Sound. It's McLennan and Forster with acoustic guitars going through:

Lee Remick
Cattle And Cane
Part Company
Bachelor Kisses
Head Full Of Steam
Bye Bye Pride
Dive For Your Memory
German Farmhouse
Too Much Of One Thing
Here Comes A City
Finding You

and telling stories. It's well worth watching if you're a fan - more essential than the main live disc at the Tivoli.

aphoristical, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 23:44 (six days ago) link

songs

Twin Layers of Lightning
Streets of Your Town
Spring Rain
Quiet Heart
I'm All Right
Cattle and Cane
Bye Bye Pride
Boundary Rider
Head Full of Steam
The House That Jack Kerouac Built
Bachelor Kisses
Love Goes On
Part Company
No Reason to Cry
He Lives My Life
Was There Anything I Could Do?
This Girl, Black Girl
You've Never Lived
The Wrong Road
The Sound of Rain
Born to a Family
As Long As That
Careless
Old Mexico
Five Words
The Clock
Apology Accepted
That Way
The Statue
Magic in Here

albums

Liberty Belle & the Black Diamond Express
16 Lovers Lane
Oceans Apart
Spring Hill Fair
Tallulah
Before Hollywood
The Friends of Rachel Worth
Horsebreaker Star
Songs to Play
Send Me A Lullaby

geoffreyess, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 17:12 (five days ago) link

Perhaps we could have a quick round up of Go-Bs soundalikes. Someone mentioned "The Sun a Small Star" by The Servants upthread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2R-dV6uwYk

and I'm going to throw in "When Daddy Blows His Top" by Frontier Scouts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDYhjZGI7Cs

fetter, Friday, 19 July 2019 08:29 (three days ago) link

Going to have to seek more Frontier Scouts methinks!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 July 2019 11:28 (three days ago) link

I think I suggested in the other thread that the Servants sounded like ever earlier GBs as time went on. Didn't realise there was an official video for this excellent example. I understand one of those there people is Luke Haines!?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 July 2019 11:52 (three days ago) link

I know Trembling Blue Stars (the Field Mice chap) named Her Handwriting after "Part Company", though I don't recall an obvious resemblance.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 July 2019 12:14 (three days ago) link

there's also, uh, the goon sax

mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Friday, 19 July 2019 12:37 (three days ago) link

I was once told Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever sounded like the Go-Betweens but better. The first part proved sort of true, the latter not.

Alba, Friday, 19 July 2019 12:43 (three days ago) link

I don't hear many similarities myself: the rhythms, uh, roll too powerfully for a Go-Be's album, and they run out of tunes quickly.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 July 2019 12:50 (three days ago) link

otm re: RBCF.

Re: The Frontier Scouts: They were from Brisbane—there's a compilation. Grant and Lindy play on two tracks (it was a 7" single if I remember correctly), and Robert wrote the liner notes.

nerve_pylon, Friday, 19 July 2019 13:49 (three days ago) link

Correction—I see they formed in Sydney.

nerve_pylon, Friday, 19 July 2019 13:53 (three days ago) link

Oh yeah! I've been meaning to pay proper attention to that comp. Thanks.

Re RBCF, it's never been clear to me that they resemble the GBs much more than they resemble... I don't know... The Feelies or The Clean.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 July 2019 14:02 (three days ago) link


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