Bernard Sumner in the index of Peter Hook's book Substance: Inside New Order

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
- moaning and complaining by 9
- as weak link 7
- bucket-of-water trick played on 6
- and apple-throwing incident 5
- parsimony of 4
- absence of, from Hannett funeral 3
- accidentally wiped vocal track of 3
- Big Day Out terrible mood of 2
- sunnier personality displayed by 2
- coke consumption of 2
- announces wish to work with other people 2
- Hook's increasing annoyance with 2
- absence of, from soundchecks 1
- lack of cooperation exhibited by 1
- Hook's row with, over Sirens' Call tracks 1
- and chair incident 1
- Hook refuses to work with 0
- mid-tour hospitalisation of 0
- frontman duties prove testing for 0
- in public falling-out with Gilbert and Morris 0
- autocue system of 0
- guitar smashing by 0


omar little, Friday, 28 June 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

I salute you, sir

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 28 June 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

i really thought this was a joke

budo jeru, Friday, 28 June 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

this is a very difficult choice

Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 28 June 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

"as weak link" is just perfect in its own concise summing up way but there are a lot of contenders

omar little, Friday, 28 June 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

Instance count on sunnier Sumner, please?

maffew12, Friday, 28 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

very 'I, Partridge'-esque, perhaps even intentionally so

Screwfix's favourite disco albums (DJ Mencap), Friday, 28 June 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

accidentally wiped vocal track of

lol

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

Stuck between:

best lyricist since Chuck Berry

and

most creative guitarist in rock

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 June 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

- bucket-of-water trick played on

love it

omar little, Friday, 28 June 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

paul violi has a great poem called "index" that this reminds me of

budo jeru, Friday, 28 June 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

we normally think of “petty” as involving grudges over trivial matters, but i disagree - turning someone’s funeral into an opportunity for resentment is a world-beater here.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 28 June 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link

‘Substance’ gets very Partridgian in places. Also pretty grubby when you get to the “we did loads of drugs and sulked with each other” years.

michaellambert, Friday, 28 June 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

turning someone’s funeral into an opportunity for resentment

this seems like something that crosses most cultural and generational boundaries tbf

Screwfix's favourite disco albums (DJ Mencap), Friday, 28 June 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

the old odor of new order

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 July 2019 00:08 (four years ago) link

“Parsimony of” stands out for me tonight

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link

Although: moaning and complaining by!

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 4 July 2019 06:12 (four years ago) link

Yeah, the factual statement of 'moaning and complaining by' (as opposed to, for example 'Hook's increasing annoyance with') is the winner for me. Similarly, 'lack of cooperation exhibited by' and 'as weak link' are also really good. But for me this ended up as a contest between 'moaning/complaining' and the single positive note 'sunnier personality displayed by'.

Valentijn, Thursday, 4 July 2019 08:53 (four years ago) link

apple-throwing incident

very intrigued

Tokyo Ghetto Stüssy (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 4 July 2019 09:17 (four years ago) link

the apple-throwing incident immediately follows the “Nick Cave transforming into a bat and flying around Hook’s hotel room” incident

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 4 July 2019 10:06 (four years ago) link

"as weak link" has a nice academic ring to it.

jmm, Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

Has anyone read this?

maffew12, Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

Ar.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

Got it from the library bcz of this thread.

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Thursday, 4 July 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

I read it. Good book, but it just cemented my dislike of Peter Hook.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

also chose moaning and complaining of but it’s a v strong field. i quite like the bathetic double “absence of” shots.

Fizzles, Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

Went with Coke Consumption. Probably not the best choice but a very rock and roll thing.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 4 July 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

Wasn’t Parsimony originally recorded by Joy Division before the New Order version?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 4 July 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 5 July 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

sigh

maffew12, Friday, 5 July 2019 12:19 (four years ago) link

Barney gets broadly painted as being quite dislikable in Morris' new book too.

MaresNest, Friday, 5 July 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

I read a Republic-era interview at the time in which he admitted he wasn't "personable."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 July 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

platonic ideal of an ilm poll

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link

his personality seems clear from his lyrics

Dan S, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link

I love him

Dan S, Saturday, 13 July 2019 01:00 (four years ago) link

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 July 2019 03:45 (four years ago) link


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