taylor swift iridescent smoke bombs thread 2019 - lover

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american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 June 2019 20:54 (three months ago) link

poor Charli announced her album just a couple hours before

"me!" sucks, is that on there?

Simon H., Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:00 (three months ago) link

yep it's track 16

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:02 (three months ago) link

of 18

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:02 (three months ago) link

I love that Kehalni album cover!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:02 (three months ago) link

Brad you've really got the scoop, I don't see this anywhere else online...

Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:04 (three months ago) link

she announced it on instagram

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:05 (three months ago) link

18 Tracks: Exile On Tay-Tay St.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:05 (three months ago) link

interesting title for the next single

"You Need to Calm down"
Released: June 14, 2019

johnny crunch, Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:06 (three months ago) link

she's right i do

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:06 (three months ago) link

its good advice

johnny crunch, Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:07 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GulWnJx3uu0

maura, Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:09 (three months ago) link

always happy for an excuse to post that clip

maura, Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:09 (three months ago) link

Not a fan of the title...

Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:12 (three months ago) link

The cd box sees a return to some kind of 'longbox' format. We never had those in England; i liked them!

piscesx, Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:25 (three months ago) link

august 23

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:27 (three months ago) link

this new song is shocking... and the video! oh my god. reminds me of The Feeling or something. very 2005. both of their vocals can give so much more, especially urie, but this is disappointing. hopefully the lp will have a few better cuts. 'wildest dreams' still knocks

meaulnes, Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:30 (three months ago) link

Looks like there will be 4(!) different Target Deluxe Editions; but as with Reputation, no extra songs on any of them: https://www.target.com/c/taylor-swift/-/N-54u4c?AFID=Lover

Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:18 (three months ago) link

(I guess with 18 tracks, that's not surprising)

Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:19 (three months ago) link

The signalling via the album title and cover obv is pretty heavy-handed but I'm kinda hopeful that the album follows through on it - with a couple of exceptions taylor typically has been on shakiest ground when simultaneously leaning towards pop and away from relationship melodrama.

Tim F, Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:45 (three months ago) link

hoping, probably folornly, that single #2 is slightly less jojo siwa

monotony, Friday, 14 June 2019 00:18 (three months ago) link

i was scared that she was going to call the album la vie en rose though so at least she didn't do that

monotony, Friday, 14 June 2019 00:19 (three months ago) link

"you need to calm down" is a lot better than "me!" but it's not particularly good either, just inoffensive

ufo, Friday, 14 June 2019 04:08 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWtfOHBF1_w

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 June 2019 09:55 (three months ago) link

i'm not ready to defend this position but: i like this one

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 June 2019 09:55 (three months ago) link

I like the beat/synth and the verses but the chorus is cringey imo.
It's borderline Mika territory !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:01 (three months ago) link

it's more 'pleasant but fairly forgettable album track' than 'second single'

ufo, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:19 (three months ago) link

amazing thread title

hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Friday, 14 June 2019 10:57 (three months ago) link

why does every new single sound like "send my love to your new lover," was it THAT big of a hit?

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 14 June 2019 12:28 (three months ago) link

those stacked-up notes beginning the chorus are admittedly a very good hook though

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 14 June 2019 12:31 (three months ago) link

I mean it's OK, but does anyone else feel like there's elements of this song that are...y'know...pandering?

It sorta feels like when a huge corporation puts their logo in rainbow colours. Like, great cause, but the fact that you're only doing it now because you're confident enough that it won't tank your stock price does cheapen it somewhat.

triggercut, Friday, 14 June 2019 13:42 (three months ago) link

you can want who you want
boys and boys and girls and girls

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 June 2019 14:11 (three months ago) link

those stacked-up notes beginning the chorus are admittedly a very good hook though

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, June 14, 2019 5:31 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the part i like so much

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 June 2019 14:15 (three months ago) link

p4k's Michelle Kim disagrees:

Swift dedicates the second half of the song to prove her allyship to the gay community, which again, deserves some props. But her way of showing alliance is confounding: “Why be mad, when you can be GLAAD,” she sings, upping the LGBTQ-centering media organization, but also parroting a literal Tupperware slogan. And when she says “shade never made anyone less gay,” she adopts slang with queer black origins in an attempt to create a mic-drop moment, but ends up sounding like another corporation proving they’re “down for the cause” during Pride Month. All of this, coupled with a hook that’s mostly vowels, makes for a song that’s somehow bewildering and underwhelming at the same time.

flappy bird, Friday, 14 June 2019 16:37 (three months ago) link

I like this new song (it's so much better than "Me!"). The bridge is kind of a missed opportunity, but you can't have everything.

Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:08 (three months ago) link

Maybe the third single will be good.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 14 June 2019 21:19 (three months ago) link

pretty good but the lyrics are brutal

flopson, Friday, 14 June 2019 22:09 (three months ago) link

This song is terrible

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 15 June 2019 02:41 (three months ago) link

This is going to date horribly.

Fried Egg Sandwich, Saturday, 15 June 2019 08:36 (three months ago) link

She's been pretty vocal about gay rights ... for the past couple of months. Especially for someone who has avoided politics, afaict. It scans kind of gross to me, like her newfound armchair activism is just part of the marketing roll out for the new album.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:06 (three months ago) link

she has been speaking directly to her gay fans since at least 2014

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:08 (three months ago) link

She is absolutely not bandwagoning

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:13 (three months ago) link

On Vox the writer stated that Taylor is drawing a false equivalency between "being criticized for being a celebrity" and anti-gay protesters at Pride Parades

I think this equivalency makes an ugly second verse, but it's not, like, a bad comparison. I think it's a misguided equivalency but not a false equivalency. Connecting the motivation behind shit-posters on Twitter and God Hates Fags sign-wavers is... clunky but not wrong, as far as I'm concerned

I think the first verse is pretty effective, this isn't a single I like personally, but it's a single I've liked more than most of her recent singles incl. a couple of 1989 efforts

It is strange to see voices of poptimistic criticism become frustrated with a pop song once the writer becomes self-aware and conspicuously manipulative. The word "pandering" has been thrown around but what mainstream pop music in the past 10 years has not been pandering? It's almost like "we want the pandering to seem accidental instead of intentional" or something

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:31 (three months ago) link

I do wish participation in queer culture by otherwise straight and/or mostly-straight pop artists was more all in, rather than kind of superficially political. Appropriation of queer and qpoc language and tropes can be both egregious AND fabulous (see Madonna's "Vogue")

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:35 (three months ago) link

Except for the "parade" line, I wouldn't have known this alludes to Pride if I hadn't watched the video.

I like Motormouth Swift, so this sounds better than Repuation's first single, and if it gets on the radio I'll like it next to "Bad Guy" and "Old Town Road."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:36 (three months ago) link

I don't feel pandered to as a queer man because, after all, a Pride parade is superficial performativity anyway.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:39 (three months ago) link

As someone who is neither gay nor a fan, the first I noticed her being more politically vocal was recently, during the 2018 Tennessee election. She's since said or posted one or two other things, which is why it felt like part of her marketing ramp-up (esp. coming after relative social media silence). It's good to hear she's apparently been more vocal for a while, though it's not for me to say if she's been loud enough.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:42 (three months ago) link

I'm neither gay nor a Swift fan in particular but I can think of some fairly obvious reasons that equating/comparing tweets against an extremely famous pop star with anti-LGBT sentiment could be seen as off-putting

Simon H., Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:52 (three months ago) link

i'm gay and i like her work and i can't say i give a shit

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:53 (three months ago) link

There were a lot of “issues” songs in the 80s that were no doubt otm but sound pretty lame now

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:55 (three months ago) link

if taytay or antonoff have heard xtc's much-maligned final album i'd be fairly amazed tho

― imago, Monday, September 2, 2019 9:38 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

it would surprise me zero percent to learn antonoff is a xtc fanboy

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:48 (two weeks ago) link

though the opening track is not antonoff lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:49 (two weeks ago) link

so cut the HEADLIGHTS
summers a KNIFE
im always waiting for you just to cut to the bone
devils roll the DICE
angels roll their EYES
and if i bleed youll be the last to knoww


I really like the bridge lyrics:

I'm drunk in the back of the car
And I cried like a baby coming home from the bar
Said, "I'm fine," but it wasn't true
I don't wanna keep secrets just to keep you....

Sorry to clutter yr watchlist with my junk (morrisp), Monday, 2 September 2019 16:53 (two weeks ago) link

"You Need To Calm Down" I've warmed to, "ME!" remains a rubber donut, and "Daylight" is a weak closer -- a limper "New Year's Day."

Album closers for me: Long Live > Begin Again > Our Song > New Year's Day (these 4 are all really good and I suppose could be interchangeable depending on the mood) > Change > Clean (I just really love Change) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daylight

“bad blood,” which i still struggle through, at least it didn’t exactly become a world-blanketing hit

Bad blood is still a clunker to me, too. It's sad that for many people, that's what comes to their minds when they think of Swift.

cpl593H, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:15 (two weeks ago) link

“clean” is her best closer, real heads know

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 17:19 (two weeks ago) link

i've reached 'london boy'

if she names anywhere south of the thames i'll give it a pass

imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:21 (two weeks ago) link

ok anywhere other than brixton ffs

imago, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:22 (two weeks ago) link

“daylight”’s chorus has an ebbing quality to it that reminds me of jimmy eat world and the bridge is among the best on the record. it’s a very “this is the closing song on the album” closer and thus feels kind of obviously constructed toward that end but i think it’s gorgeous, brings the album around to this final gradually-dying shimmer

also it’s much better than “change” come on

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 2 September 2019 17:23 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah I have a jelly-like soft spot for "Change" I guess. It was such a shock back then to hear a teenage girl writing such anthemic, anachronistic guitar solos, I never really recovered.

cpl593H, Monday, 2 September 2019 17:27 (two weeks ago) link

the version of "the archer" on live lounge is amazing

J0rdan S., Monday, 2 September 2019 19:58 (two weeks ago) link

The verses on 'Death By a Thousand Cuts' mostly just sounds inspired by Young Thug / bop-music/other singsongy hiphop? It's good :)

Frederik B, Monday, 2 September 2019 21:06 (two weeks ago) link

the version of "the archer" on live lounge is amazing

― J0rdan S., Monday, September 2, 2019 12:58 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

the whole thing is really great but yeah “the archer” and the rearranged “holy ground” stop time

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 02:36 (two weeks ago) link

the chorus melody of "the man" sounds like it was thought up by danielle haim. that's about its only redeeming feature.

^^

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:08 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol i am only on my second listen of this and I immediately thought the same thing. I'd say it's pretty much true of the whole song.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 01:17 (two weeks ago) link

The songwriting credits for this album are so revealing:

1. The songs attributed to Swift alone ("Lover", "Cornelia Street", "Daylight") are three of the best.

2. The songs involving Little ("The Man", "Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince", "You Need To Calm Down", "Me!") range between the worst and (at best) non-essential, making him Swift's worst foil since Tedder/Zancanella.

3. There's really nothing to distinguish Antonoff co-writes from Bell/Feeney co-writes (and the production approaches are also not readily distinguishable).

Consider the above together and it suggests that the album's success largely rises or falls on the extent to which Swift's collaborators got out of her way.

Cf. Reputation where everything was a co-write and there didn't really seem to be so much of a correlation between songwriting credits and sound/quality.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 01:34 (two weeks ago) link

i hate accidents except when we went from friends to this uh huh

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:55 (two weeks ago) link

that’s right

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 03:05 (two weeks ago) link

darlin

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 06:07 (two weeks ago) link

the album's success largely rises or falls on the extent to which Swift's collaborators got out of her way

I hadn't realized "Cornelia" was credited only to her. But this statement sort of applies to most of her career, I think. I'm pretty sure she's far better at songwriting than all the partners she's had over the years. Maybe Martin was, but on a different thing. And I'm not sure he enhanced her strenghts.

I think I'm warming to "Miss Americana". It felt like a show stopper at first, but it reminds me of Springsteen and I like Swift when she goes that way.

cpl593H, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 11:15 (two weeks ago) link

I'm pretty sure she's far better at songwriting than all the partners she's had over the years. Maybe Martin was, but on a different thing. And I'm not sure he enhanced her strenghts..

I think this is correct, but I also think the album credits have never revealed it so starkly before - unless you count Speak Now which had no co-writes.

In part that has been because she delivered great songs with collaborators that both revealed her own writing strengths while also seemingly leaning into the approaches that the co-writer brought to the table.

Whereas at this point it sounds like she is at the same stage with Antonoff in particular that she had reached with Chapman by Speak Now: she can write songs on her own geared to take advantage of his production approach.

Tim F, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:25 (two weeks ago) link

In part that has been because she delivered great songs with collaborators that both revealed her own writing strengths while also seemingly leaning into the approaches that the co-writer brought to the table.

Yeah, 100% on that. I really, really liked "1989" but, to me, it mostly felt like a collection of very successful exercises in style. Even though I missed the songwriting on "Speak Now" and "Red", which is somewhat back in "Lover", back then I found this very admirable and revealing of her abilities, and I still do. And it was, very possibly, a much-needed break from diaristic-Swift; I loved Red, but it felt like she was just about to hit a wall.

cpl593H, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 12:41 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, it's clear that, like Aretha or Madonna, she's Taylor Swift no matter whom she writes songs with. At moments the collaborators make her more herself than when she writes by herself.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 13:00 (two weeks ago) link

"lover" reminds me of "heart of stone"

"the archer" reminds me of "true colors"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 14:03 (two weeks ago) link

it's clear that, like Aretha or Madonna, she's Taylor Swift no matter whom she writes songs with.

Isn't that true of pretty much every big pop star, from Beyonce to Rihanna to Ariana Grande to ... Pink or Kacey Musgraves or whomever?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 14:13 (two weeks ago) link

really into false god now

johnny crunch, Saturday, 7 September 2019 15:42 (one week ago) link

I went to the show last night! It was my first time seeing her. As I'd said upthread, it was at a small venue, 2000 people, and we were about 10m from the stage. I don't have much to say that you probably can't read anywhere else. She mostly stuck to bangers, plus an acoustic interlude where she played, solo, songs she emphasized she'd written herself: "Death By A Thousand Cuts", "Cornelia Street", "The Man". They brought out a piano and did an amazing "All Too Well", with the band coming in periodically, then went right into "Red" and "Daylight", again on piano. The band was fun to watch; the guitarist with the feathered mullet mugged a bunch & I lolled. "Style" was another highlight. I'm still deaf from the screaming of the fans, who sang every word louder than mic'ed Taylor (I think maybe her mic was pretty low in the mix though, and she rarely belted anything). Tons of pro-looking cameras so this show might get released eventually. You can see the setlist if you want.

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 11:15 (one week ago) link

hang your head low
in the glow
of the vending machine
i'm not dying!

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:23 (yesterday) link

next year she'll be coming to Portugal for the first time. I still can't believe I'll see her live.

Nourry, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:27 (yesterday) link

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for more South American dates so much I can barely type.

cpl593H, Wednesday, 18 September 2019 16:49 (yesterday) link

Xgau put his review online yesterday: https://robertchristgau.substack.com . I've always liked his vision of Swift, and this is no exception.

cpl593H, Thursday, 19 September 2019 10:13 (eleven hours ago) link

"Lana Del Rey: Norman Fucking Rockwell! (Interscope) American studies paper on the late ‘60s fused with soft-core porn whose erotic charge is the deeper part of the synthesis (“Hope is a dangerous thing to for a woman like me to have—but I have it,” “Love Song”) ***"

Yeah maybe but I'll be fucked if I'm going to pay for 'old horny man' reviews like this.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 19 September 2019 10:26 (eleven hours ago) link

I didn't get the horny vibes, but I just checked the rest of his reviews on LDR and boy he has never taken her seriously, at all.

cpl593H, Thursday, 19 September 2019 10:34 (eleven hours ago) link

It’s not just that Swift knows even more about having lovers, the concept here, than she does about being a star, the concept of Reputation.

reputation isn't rly about "being a star". unfamous people get talked about too. it's a concept calculated to foreground taylor swift's most canonically unpopular qualities but the experiences it's about are probably unavoidable for any of the "millions of women who manage serial relationships", so i think that album was for them as much as this one. i mean if you can't relate to getaway car it's because you haven't had enough rebound sex, not because you're not a pop star.

i do prefer this album and despite what strikes me as outrageous recycling of antonoffisms on "cruel summer" think that on that and the title track and "the archer" and "cornelia street" and... gosh a lot of it she seems to have relaxed back into her talent after successfully whiteknuckling the pop transition.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:03 (five hours ago) link

and the concept of lover is not "having lovers"

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:09 (four hours ago) link

It's not just that Swift knows even more about the things that you do on a mattress, the concept here, than she does about being an actress,

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:13 (four hours ago) link

should have mentioned "i think he knows" in that list, sometimes feels like the most complete version of neo-swift here.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:14 (four hours ago) link

yes! completely agreed. even the ungainly bridge is charming

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:16 (four hours ago) link

lyrical smile
indigo eyes
hand on my thigh
we can handle the sparks
i'll drive

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:17 (four hours ago) link

er we can follow*

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:17 (four hours ago) link

Xgau suxxx

#YABASIC (morrisp), Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:27 (four hours ago) link

i am genuinely uninterested in what he thinks about any woman

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:27 (four hours ago) link

gosh a lot of it she seems to have relaxed back into her talent after successfully whiteknuckling the pop transition.

This is a nice take/turn of phrase, btw

#YABASIC (morrisp), Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:33 (four hours ago) link

i am genuinely uninterested in what he thinks about any woman

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:35 (four hours ago) link

he's probably better on women then Marcus but that's maybe only due to the latter's being more pitched at dissertation and deep beliefs level, and it's not to say that Xgau is anywhere near "good" on discussing women and the music they make.

omar little, Thursday, 19 September 2019 17:40 (four hours ago) link

"I Think He Knows" is one of my keepers these days.

as for Xgau, I'm surprised you guys have focused on the first lines and not his usual obsession with serial monogamy and how "this one’s for them.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:23 (three hours ago) link

With X-Gau I do put some value in going with the A when most established critics wouldn't really care. I like the risks he's taken through the years in assessing her; putting her in the same level of Merrit in his Red review, tongue-in-cheek as it was, would be an example. I'm not sure his take on music made by women in general is one of his strengths, but when it comes to Swift, most of the positive remarks he's made on her music are closer to the things I personally cherish in her work than any positive remark people like Petridis or Sheffield would make. I suppose the bar is really low with this guys, but still.

Regarding concepts; I really should go back to "reputation" as it's not as fresh in my mind as the others, but even though it's not entirely about "being a star", the notion of the public eye in that album is not something to be dismissed either. Unfamous people get talked about too, right, but the feeling I got back then was she was discussing a different level of criticism and observation; one that went beyond gossip or even the "Youtube comments section" chat of "Mean". And maybe that was coming mostly from the artwork, videos and a somewhat more oppresive sounding production rather than the songs themselves, but it was still a component that was there. Such level of oppression was something I can understand and even feel for her, but also put it a lot more out of my reach than the rest of her efforts.

I really love "I think he knows", it reminds me of "All you had to do was stay" in its commitment for the hook.

cpl593H, Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:24 (three hours ago) link

Regarding concepts; I really should go back to "reputation" as it's not as fresh in my mind as the others, but even though it's not entirely about "being a star", the notion of the public eye in that album is not something to be dismissed either.

yeah uh the album is called Reputation (and I know the title encompasses ever definition).

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:26 (three hours ago) link

she was discussing a different level of criticism and observation

i think this is social media as much as fame-- or maybe just that i suspect people a little younger than me can relate to the superstar panopticon more than i do

i guess tho that it is undeniably (self-consciously) part of a lineage of "paranoid superstar" albums. i was gonna say "but it's not exactly the wall" but then i was like, unfamous people get repressed by postwar systems of control too

anyway a lot of it is just taylor songs tho of course.

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:34 (three hours ago) link

Reputation still, uh, "slaps" (first & hopefully last time I use that term)

#YABASIC (morrisp), Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:34 (three hours ago) link

yeah no

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:34 (three hours ago) link

(misused "panopticon" there of course, because the concept failed to prepare us for the reality)

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 19 September 2019 18:40 (three hours ago) link


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