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Just bought "Up on the Sun" on a whim, and it's utterly splendid. There are several other MP albums on the shelf in Tower, which ones are worth getting? I shall be investing in another one soon...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link

get 'II'. this thread reminds me to get up on the sun (also I'm sure there is a prev thread on them).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 10:37 (nineteen years ago) link

what julio said, II is fabulous. i've never heard any other MP-stuff, except for a compilation (no strings attached) that contained some horrible material towards the end of the disc...

willem (willem), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 10:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i got their 1st 7" when it was hot hot hot new new new & i loved that & their 1st "album" & II & "Up On The Sun" as well but everything after that kind of stunk & anyway i haven't listened to them for years. those records are still choice tho i bet.

doorag, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Search/Classic: Whichever album(s) have "Plateau" and "Lake of Fire." Worth it just for those songs. I'd remember the album name(s) and whether or not they're on the same album or not (I want to say they are, but that may be because Nirvana covers them both on Unplugged), but I'm on cold medication and it's all I can do to type this much with minimal interruptions of "meat puppets -- heheh, that would be funny," and then mentally assigning different kinds of meat to the various muppets.

Like Miss Piggy would have to be made of baloney, obviously. And Kermit wouldn't be meat at all, but rather those "sandwich stacker" pickles which are already sliced, neatly arranged and knitting-needled together into a more-or-less froggic shape.

So "Plateau" and "Lake of Fire," then.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

They're on Meat Puppets II which is essential.
The first one's excellent as well.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

After listening to "Up on the Sun", anything else will be disappointing.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

'II' is one of my favourite albums ever. I never get tired of listening it. Make sure you get the new edition with bonus tracks because you get this song called 'What To Do' which is the classic slacker record ten years before slacker happened.

'Up On The Sun' is nearly as good. I like everything else by 'em I've heard, but nothing else competes with those two records. Classic, classic, and thrice classic.

Jason J, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Mirage is great. Huevos is pretty good too. Nothing beats II however.The only one of the 80s albums not worth getting is the 1st one really.

brad, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. I've only got II and Up On The Sun personally, but everything I've heard after it at least is entertaingly in a frazzled boogie kind of way. Even two or three tracks on "Golden Lies" weren't bad.

Why does it always have to be Classic or Dud? Something in the middle there? With the Meat Puppets, aside from II, I'd really want to deem them Awright.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Why does it always have to be Classic or Dud?

Because ILM is jockist.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Why does it always have to be Classic or Dud?

The dusty archives of alt.music.alternative will tell you too much about a lot of us.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

"Maiden's Milk" = maybe happiest song ever recorded

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been listening to Up on the Sun waaaaay too much lately.

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Huevos and Too High to Die are pretty good albums, not as good as II or Up On the Sun, but not that much worse either.

earlnash, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
I've got 'Too High to Die' and from what I remember of it it's boring.

Is II a lot better?

mei (mei), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

II is the best. "Lost" "Climbing" excellent. I talked to Curt Kirkwood a while ago, when that Eyes Adrift came out and he said that as far as he knows, II was the first record anyone made on MDMA, which would later be known as Ecstasy, for reasons still lost to me.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 24 March 2003 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember buying "Up On the Sun" years ago - I had no idea what it sounded like or what the Meat Puppets sounded like, it was just cheap and I had money to burn. Suffice to say, that it's one of my favourite albums - and, this is fairly important - every person I ever played it to eventually went out and bought a copy too! Alas, I've never really heard anything by the Meat Puppets that is anywhere near as good - II has some good things on it but it's not in the same league.

Dadaismus, Monday, 24 March 2003 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

There is a picture of Curt and Krist Novoselic and the other guy in their new band in Total Guitar this month if anyon'e interested. And a little write-up on them.

mei (mei), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

It's impossible to say anything bad about MeatPupII, UP on the Sun and maybe even Huevos, but let me put in a few extra cents her by saying that Forbidden Places has some really fine moments as well, but that Too High to Die was amazing as well...a very nice update of the band's sound to actually include Kirkwood's ability to uh, sing in tune. Also, I love Paul Leary's production on the album, which added the edge of nastiness back to the Pup's sound which Pete Anderson's production on Forbidden Places cleansed; it allowed the best mix of punk and ZZ Top that I've evah heard.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

The riff from "Open Wide" off of 'Forbidden Places' is pretty huge, and one of my favorite to play when I want to feel good about myself.

Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Up On The Sun is probably the album that bridges the gap between what came before and what came after, and as such is probably most representative of their material.

In defense of their self titled album, I think it is a wonderful artifact for numerous reasons. It has that specific thin and dirty Spot-produced early SST sound which I find nostalgic. To my knowledge, it is one of the first and best infusions of psychedelia with American hardcore/punk. The singing is primitive yet pure, and the intuitive playing which holds the songs together is inspired. The changes in dynamics, texture, time, and color are often subtle yet always instantaneous and lend the songs a surprising cohesion despite their loose 'improvised' structures. The affect is simultaneously drug-addled and innocent. It is difficult not to anthropomorphize the record itself which seems so weirdly full of joy, fear, and humor.

Most people I know dismiss their 7" and first album as demented experimentation, but there is a resonance to these records should you choose to explore them a little deeper.

II is my favorite partly because of the songwriting, and more so because of the performances which create a lot of ambient space without adding a superfluous tone or note.

Live in Montana is amusing, but I also find it longwinded and at times, incredibly annoying. Whenever they cop the Grateful Dead or "get funky," I'm not sure how to react.

Ryan McKay (Ryan McKay), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

II, up on the sun: there is nothing else in the musical world like these. mirage: ok. out my way: nearly ok.

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks for reviving this thread! I just went and ripped my Pups CDs into my Nomad and am enjoying them all over again!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Totaly CLASSIC. The only album i'v heared by them is a total classic and without surprize it's called "Meat Puppets II". "Plateau" is one of my all time favorite rock tracks.

rex jr., Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

No doubt about it, people, Forbidden Places is totally underrated, and Too High to Die stacks up nicely against their earlier work...that guitarwork is amazing.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
revive!

I wz listening to 'up on the sun' late last night and several things struck me - how there aren't any riffs, its composed of all these guitar runs, all continuous and sunny (if minor chords are sad ones then are these major chords? I don't know...). The singing is very different to that on 'II', he sounds more drunk instead of nervous. I think there are also some treated guitar effects that appear, albeit briefly, on some of the tracks and the lyrics are pretty great too...can't remember the words jumping out of the CD booklet since 'trout mask replica', all those years ago.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 2 October 2004 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

There hasn't been mention of the album Monsters yet and while it's no MPII it has some great songs, 'Light' and 'Like Being Alive' fr'instance, the overall tone is a little like a Grateful Dead/ZZ Top hybrid for better or worse.

mzui, Saturday, 2 October 2004 12:22 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
up on the sun...such a gorgeous album!

strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 1 May 2005 01:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i was kind of amazed to find out the technology at work here in sr's p-punk book

strng hlkngtn, Sunday, 1 May 2005 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

duran duran!

christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 1 May 2005 03:39 (seventeen years ago) link

classic

latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Sunday, 1 May 2005 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link

stand by earlier comment. surprised to find strngo here. or maybe not. hazy, slippery, hallucinatory

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 1 May 2005 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

oh man i love up on the sun

charleston charge (chaki), Sunday, 1 May 2005 08:39 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
I was surprised to read in Reynolds' book that Meat Puppets were his favorite of the SST bands over Minutemen and Husker Du. I hadn't listened to the first MP in over 12 years after selling my copy. It is pretty fun in small doses. But it's odd how he seems to hate anything rooted in American country, folk, blues, etc., yet the Puppets were big fans of the Grateful Dead and ZZ Top. That was apparent in their music. Not so apparent was their alleged love of Gong, Mahavishnu Orchestra and Gentle Giant. "...a Venezuelan shaman flipping out on hallucinogenic tree-bark" might not have been the first thing I thought, but it's a nicely weird version of hardcore.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:06 (sixteen years ago) link

'II' is one of my favourite albums ever. I never get tired of listening it. Make sure you get the new edition with bonus tracks because you get this song called 'What To Do' which is the classic slacker record ten years before slacker happened.

This is a Rolling Stones cover. I'm not sure if you meant that the song predated the 90s slacker or the 70s slacker.

II is a classic album. It is awesome and captures something that for me, is beyond words. It has a beauty that few albums have. Up On the Sun, on the other hand-- well, I just don't get that record. I know everyone raves about it, but I don't think it's near as good as II. It seems a lot more of a conscious effort or something... still decent, but I wouldn't recommend it as a first MP purchase.

richard wood johnson, Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I think II is a little over-rated, and I really only like the future Nirvana covers, whereas..

UP ON THE SUN = SERIOUSLY ONE OF THE BEST ALBUMS EVER

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

gawd, i feel like I must be listening to a different "up on the sun" here. my instinct was to think that everyone would distance themselves from this record for its over-the-top virtuosity alone-- and for me, that is its most prominent feature. it has a nice deserty sound, but the songs seem underdeveloped compared to the ones on II, and the effort seems focused on musical virtuosity rather than songwriting.

richard wood johnson, Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:29 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...
No one else finds the singing on II annoying?

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 05:03 (sixteen years ago) link

i did when i was 11 but as i got older the voices sounded more vulnerable and sweet to me and they actually armonize pretty damn good

howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link

also brian turner played an awesome live song today! check the fmu archives!

howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't particularly like II, but mainly because I heard it 10 or so years after listening to Nirvana Unplugged in New York all the time.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i find kurt cobain's singing on those meat puppets covers annoying, and i otherwise love his voice.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Just listened to this earlier in the week. Yes, the vocals are seriously ragged on this album and it veers towards cringeworthy at some points, but chaki is right in that there is a strange beauty to it. Cobain "righted" the vocals somewhat on the cover tunes by actually hitting the notes (or coming closer than Kirkwood did), but in a way he lost something too.

The best songs on II are the instrumentals, anyway!

Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link

the only song from II which sounds better to me as a Nirvana cover is "Lake of Fire". The rest of the songs are perfect in their original Meat Puppets incarnations.

classic, by the way.

latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

so so classic. first album, II and Up On the Sun are unfuckwithable. i've never found the singing annoying at all, really, though i can understand how some would.

ZR (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

anyone heard the Curt Kirkwood album that come out a couple months ago, Snow? it's alright, reminds me of II in parts. definitely better than his last few post-MP bands.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

II and Up on the Sun are II of my favorite albums

CLASIC CLASSIC ! !

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm thinking of going to see Curt Kirkwood play solo tonight - has anyone seen him lately, or read about it? I'm wondering if it would be any good. My roommate really wants to go.

stingewell, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

There is not enough love for Mirage on this thread

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

There is a new full length, it's out in March! The song in the video linked above is on it.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:20 (three years ago) link

fuuck yeahhh

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:12 (three years ago) link

* Everything * about this 1985 local TV in-studio appearance (even the limo commercial) is so damn adorable. Amazing treasure moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMtKD-aw1I

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 22 December 2018 16:55 (three years ago) link

Thanks for that loveable live video!

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 24 December 2018 17:58 (three years ago) link

This is, word-for-word, line-for-line, story-for-story, joke-for-joke one of the best music interviews I've come across in a while. Meat Puppets, 2007.

https://music.avclub.com/meat-puppets-1798212463

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 26 December 2018 01:55 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

I don’t know how long it’s been up but it looks like their full discography is now streaming, save the Out My Way EP I think.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:46 (nine months ago) link

So glad I opened this thread and discovered that video of them.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 20:45 (nine months ago) link

They should add Out My Way, it rules

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 23:16 (nine months ago) link

yes that video up there is magical xp

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 23:54 (nine months ago) link

From my Nashville Scene ballot comments on 2019 releases:
...those Dusty Notes come flying, and the dust doesn't come off, but they're still somehow plenty shiny, in this heavy jangle drone rock with country crosscurrents at the right times--incl. Floyd Crameresque sparkling piano waters, never abusing their spotlight comp time---the possibly Buddhist truck-driving man seemingly tells everything he sees, while, like the song says, "Lookin' at the world through a windshield," and vice-versa: for instance,"The Great Awakening" did even more to this land than for it, making for a real nice theme song in my mind, as he sings through it and all else, not scurred of those In Through The Out Door-reinforced juxtapositions, or that yowling tom cat guitar tail under---has he got a rocking chair in there? Rock the nation, big 'un, rolling through suggestions of Grateful Dead karma ballads too, in a poise I can only envy----Serenity Now!

dow, Thursday, 30 September 2021 01:10 (nine months ago) link

Also once again: anybody who likes Curt will prob enjoy this long-ish truckstop conversation (following a brief review of Rise To Your Knees)--originally from 2007 Paper Thin Walls:
https://papercomet.blogspot.com/2017/03/meat-puppets.html

dow, Thursday, 30 September 2021 01:35 (nine months ago) link

discography is now streaming

...through my head, anytime the sun is out? been that way forever

the adventures of pavlo and schrödis (geoffreyess), Thursday, 30 September 2021 01:40 (nine months ago) link

Wherearetheystreamingwherearetheystreamingwherearetheystreaming----Spotify? Don't see 'em on bandcamp, alas.

dow, Thursday, 30 September 2021 02:05 (nine months ago) link

That tv show appearance is amazing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 September 2021 03:46 (nine months ago) link

i'd never heard this until recently cos i never bought the ryko reissues but i'm super-into this weird demo version of 'hot pink' off the expanded Up On The Sun. Glockenspiel melody line, weird echoey percussive noises, a dubby bassline going wubba-wubba the whole time, and just a general feeling of falling through a dream backwards. it's kind of like they'd been listening to husker du and thought it would be neat to fuse 'the baby song' with 'reoccurring dreams'. are there any other pups tracks out there that are like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9SSELVxdvY

primate marmite (NickB), Thursday, 30 September 2021 11:31 (nine months ago) link

Pretty sure that demo predates “The Baby Song” by a year, at least; it might be the other way round.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 30 September 2021 15:10 (nine months ago) link

oh i'm sure that was the case, wasn't a serious hypothesis i was putting forward there. just that childlike instrumentation and melody brought it to mind

primate marmite (NickB), Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:45 (nine months ago) link

If I recall correctly, they mention in the Ryko liner notes something about that demo being their original vision for Up on the Sun – something like Pet Sounds.

fpsa, Friday, 1 October 2021 02:53 (nine months ago) link

They apparently stuck themselves playing Sloop John B way too frequently in later years. At least according to the complaints of somebody I knew who followed them for years.

Stevolende, Friday, 1 October 2021 05:34 (nine months ago) link

They were the kings of tacky cover versions, first time I saw them play they busked through 'A White Sports Coat & A Pink Carnation', like some sort of wedding band, it might have been their opening song too iirc?

Maresn3st, Friday, 1 October 2021 09:48 (nine months ago) link

I think that's what you call the final soundcheck if it's the opening number

a down-on-his-luck gastromancer enters (Matt #2), Friday, 1 October 2021 10:35 (nine months ago) link

They were infamous for starting a set with the overture to South pacific to a hardcore audience when they supported one of the bigger bands, was it Dead Kennedys? Always seemed to be a maverick streak that I quite enjoyed but it could go too far into cheesiness in places.
Just seems like they were playing Sloop John B every night when they could have played something less cheesy.

Stevolende, Friday, 1 October 2021 10:38 (nine months ago) link

four months pass...

Damn that first record is really something totally unlike anything else, I listened this morning for the first time in forever and had my gourd blown all over again. "II" is unimpeachable, after that my interest...err...ebbs & flows.

W/r/t to the cheesy opening song, even as late as sometime in the 00s when I last saw them, the crowd was pretty much just backward white baseball cap wearing jocks. I don't remember what exactly they started with (UMS might recall) but what it was it was really weird and wrong-footed the whole room in a good way, it ended up being a really great gig.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:51 (five months ago) link

yah first record is incredible just wow

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:59 (five months ago) link

First e.p. is quite incredible for a different direction. even more bluegrass based hardcore.
But my introduction was the vinyl version of that first lp and it is still something I would love to hear a lot more of.
NOt sure if anybody did take that as a starting point and get even more into getting stuck in the mud and actually stretching things out like not just for a couple of minutes. I did hear that it has been cited as a major influence on grunge. I remember the NME review comparing it to the ballroom sound of SF . Also sounds like pretty advanced playing heavily disguised as extremely amateur.
Well glad i got the Rykodisc version which expands it out to twice or 3 times the length.

Now I need to get the rest of the Monitor lp.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:11 (five months ago) link

Oral history book was really interesting, not sure if you can still get that.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:12 (five months ago) link

that ryko disc first album with all the bonus tracks is essential. i tried to listen to too high to die last week and its wack. oh damn i posted on this thread 16 years ago and just found myself agreeing with myself before i knew it was me lol.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:20 (five months ago) link

Interesting that the later SST records, esp "Mirage" even though the music & playing is definitely more mersh, the vocals are...worse? Kudos for that at least.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:26 (five months ago) link

threeway tie for last and p much everything recorded around then sounds weird and has a weird sheen to it

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:31 (five months ago) link

Yeah, all that 85-87 SST stuff sounds weird, often it feels like they are reaching for something that is just beyond their grasp (technically/finacially) and at the time (or more like 1991-92 when I first heard most of it) I thought it sounded abhorrent, though now I find some of it oddly charming, probably becuz it is so obviously of a very specific era

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:49 (five months ago) link

the most 1987 sst sounding album (or probably ragin full on) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm9U4EBWUsQ

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:02 (five months ago) link

lots of amazing SST records released during that time too of course, it's insane the number of records they were pumping out: 1985 - 24, 1986 - 32, 1987 - 64(!!!)

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:04 (five months ago) link

admittedly half of 1987s output was zoogz rift back-catalogue

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:05 (five months ago) link

I know there's a bit of retrospective kindness for Spot's engineering, but he's a blight to a lot of those records.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:15 (five months ago) link

A vast back catalogue funded by non-payment of royalties to the handful of bands on the label that sold anything!

The White Hot Stamper With Issues (Matt #2), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:36 (five months ago) link

I heard the Rykodisc remasters had to be mastered from SST's own CD's because the master tapes were (and still) MIA - is that true?

Anyway, the kindest and more hilarious spin I've seen on SST's practices is that it's kind of like a Bailey Saving & Loan. You know, from It's a Wonderful Life: "Your money's not here Bob. It's in the Meat Puppets new album and Black Flag's next album..."

birdistheword, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 00:23 (five months ago) link

Or rather Bailey Building and Loan...been too long since I've seen the movie.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 00:25 (five months ago) link

Now I need to get the rest of the Monitor lp.

Monitor lp is excellent west coast art damage

Agree that mirage, 3 way tie, flip your wig, loose nut all have an unfortunate neither fish nor fowl sound to them

Up on the sun sounds perfect though in its kinda slickness

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 01:47 (five months ago) link

I heard the Rykodisc remasters had to be mastered from SST’s own CD’s because the master tapes were (and still) MIA - is that true?

I don’t know about those, but that has been the case for others: The Dicks’ Kill From the Heart reissue on Alternative Tentacles was mastered from the (deleted) vinyl.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 11:52 (five months ago) link

are there any bands that cite Up On The Sun as a major influence. JUst wondering what is in the same ballpark that might have grown out of it. May have some influence from 74ish Grateful Dead I know they have mentioned that band among their own influences. But something about the bubbling bounciness in the sound from that year I'm being reminded of by listening to Up On The Sun.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 February 2022 17:02 (four months ago) link

I can only name precedents (first two talking heads records, some bits of murmur) but no real inheritors. Would love to hear about any as my love for this album is boundless

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Monday, 7 February 2022 19:17 (four months ago) link

maybe fIREHOSE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygiVIEzejVQ

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 7 February 2022 20:24 (four months ago) link

maybe these guys? sort of like mid-period meat puppets transplanted to the grey fog of the pacific NW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1d3yZOYYwo

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 7 February 2022 20:41 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

june tour dates canceled :(

https://www.themeatpuppets.net/news

budo jeru, Saturday, 18 June 2022 23:38 (two weeks ago) link

I’ve been trying to figure out if maybe it’s not worth the gas to drive across the country to play six small shows because they’ve been playing other shows lately and it’s not like Covid is getting more serious really

zacata, Sunday, 19 June 2022 00:56 (one week ago) link

That may be what Dr. Fauci thought. Def what some people I know thought 'til recently.

dow, Sunday, 19 June 2022 01:20 (one week ago) link

(Fauci tested pos recently.)

dow, Sunday, 19 June 2022 01:20 (one week ago) link

Their gig in my town was not even on my radar. And now it’s cancelled.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 19 June 2022 02:12 (one week ago) link

so bummed, but then again i got covid a couple weeks ago, so i get it

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 19 June 2022 14:05 (one week ago) link

I'd like to see them now, especially in a good club, if nothing else comparison. They are a band I saw a couple times as a kid, it would just be cool to see them now. It never lined up, but I would have loved to see some of the Jesus Lizard shows for that reason. I saw them twice once right after I turned 21 in Bloomington in '91 and a second time a few years later as the opening act for Primus at this cow barn at the Indiana State Fair. Horrible sound and the Puppets did not go over well. The first show was at a good club and they were so tight a band. You can tell the Meat Puppets had played together for a LONG time, just tight.

Minutemen/fIREHOSE was on a similar type of funk groove at points. Ed's tunes have a folky bounce, which is something the Meat Puppets do a lot.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 19 June 2022 22:45 (one week ago) link


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