Pitchfork’s “The Best Rolling Stones Songs That Don’t Really Sound Like the Rolling Stones” (a poll)

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
“We Love You” (1967) 15
“I Just Want to See His Face” (1972) 10
“Shattered” (1978) 7
“Heaven” (1981) 6
“Too Much Blood” (1983) 5
“Winter” (1973) 4
“Time Waits for No One” (1974) 4
“Dance (Pt. 1)” (1980) 1
“Almost Hear You Sigh” (1989) 1
“I’d Much Rather Be With the Boys” (1964) 0


budo jeru, Thursday, 30 May 2019 05:07 (three months ago) link

"Winter" is a beautifully wasted song, and the gem of the post-Exile, pre-Some Girls slump.

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Thursday, 30 May 2019 05:09 (three months ago) link

btw there is an “article” that accompanies this list but i don’t think it’s worth linking to and, in any case, the best polls here are always weird / arbitrary lists imo

budo jeru, Thursday, 30 May 2019 05:12 (three months ago) link

"Shattered” but it feels like I'm cheating.

Bee OK, Thursday, 30 May 2019 05:14 (three months ago) link

that’s because it sounds like a rolling stones song

budo jeru, Thursday, 30 May 2019 05:17 (three months ago) link

yeah for real

j., Thursday, 30 May 2019 05:20 (three months ago) link

these are actually lyrics from “too much blood”

You know, he took her to his apartment
Cut off her head, put the rest of her body
In the refrigerator, ate her piece by piece
Put her in the refrigerator, put her in the freezer

budo jeru, Thursday, 30 May 2019 05:36 (three months ago) link

It’s about that japanese student at the sorbonne who killed his classmate—a news story at the time

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 30 May 2019 07:05 (three months ago) link

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7bwvvx/whos-hungry-502-v16n1

Vice interviewed him once because of course

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 30 May 2019 07:06 (three months ago) link

maybe it's personal bias but i think "i'd much rather be with the boys" sounds much better sung from a female perspective (pace donna lynn's "i'd much rather be with the girls"). i also really like "some things just stick in your mind", written for dick and dee dee.

"we love you" is just a great song. i like ryuichi sakamoto's version with robert wyatt and brian wilson on vocals, but i also really like the original. i get "not a rolling stones song" but jagger has one of those voices that always sounds sarcastic even when he's not, which is excellent, as opposed to wyatt and wilson who always sound sad (i think sakamoto actually got wyatt for the song because sakamoto thought he had the saddest voice in the world).

i've never really listened to much stones post '60s so i can't comment on the rest.

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 May 2019 07:58 (three months ago) link

Winter is the best of these but it sounds like a Stones song.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 30 May 2019 08:18 (three months ago) link

Gonna listen to em all today, but Heaven is the only one that really doesn’t feel like a Rolling Stones song in the strictest sense. Plus, it’s a jam.

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 May 2019 12:30 (three months ago) link

The real point of the article was just to highlight that the stones were a lot more stylistically diverse than non-fans give them credit for, not to actually say “these songs sound like they’re by different bands”

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 May 2019 12:31 (three months ago) link

good to see "Almost Hear You Sigh," the best ballad after 1986. There's a gem of a chord change.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2019 12:36 (three months ago) link

yep, I voted for "Almost Hear You Sigh" over "Dance Pt 1".

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 30 May 2019 12:44 (three months ago) link

"Winter" is anther song for which Jagger should've given Taylor writing credit.

"Time Waits..." excepted, I like every song on this list to varying degrees.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2019 12:55 (three months ago) link

I don't know all of these but "Winter" is great.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 May 2019 12:59 (three months ago) link

"I Just Want to See His Face" always makes me think of Dr. John's first album. Keith and Bill don't play on it fwiw.

Josefa, Thursday, 30 May 2019 13:49 (three months ago) link

Keith gets credited for the electric piano, though?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2019 13:51 (three months ago) link

Although now I see this: http://www.timeisonourside.com/SOIJustWantToSee.html

(a fun way to spend a morning, that site)

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2019 13:52 (three months ago) link

Huh. Wikipedia says Jagger on electric piano but adds a quote from Bobby Whitlock claiming he played electric piano. So we've narrowed it down to four people.

Josefa, Thursday, 30 May 2019 14:02 (three months ago) link

"We Love You" is my fav Stones track, but the Pitchfork article does link to Arthur Baker's especially wiggly remix, which reduces the Stones presence to three Mick gargles, two Mick whoops and some of the spoken word lines almost fashioned into workable hooks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5NvVP-RUg

bendy, Thursday, 30 May 2019 14:32 (three months ago) link

From the article:

There’s been just a handful of magical moments where they’ve transcended themselves completely. The tracks collected below would’ve been considered extreme outliers in the Stones catalog at the time of their release

Yes, what an extreme outlier "We Love You" is, from the same year they released an album with a 8 minute sitar jam & dressed like wizards on the cover.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 30 May 2019 15:16 (three months ago) link

and "Winter" is in the vein of "Moonlight Mile" and even "Angie."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2019 15:21 (three months ago) link

"You might think of The Beatles as old moldy fossils, but look deeper and their albums have some deep cuts that are just as experimental as anything Radiohead ever did!"

One Eye Open, Thursday, 30 May 2019 15:26 (three months ago) link

"We Love You" is one of my fave deep cuts and I play it out a lot, so that

Ambient Police (sleeve), Thursday, 30 May 2019 15:30 (three months ago) link

I love a lot of these tracks dearly ('Dance' does everything that 'Miss You' is supposed to do and I haven't heard it a million times), but "We Love You" is it. The song is nothing without Nicky Hopkins' piano, but I'd argue that it's also Brian's best moment in the late 60s era, even more than 'No Expectations'. I don't think anybody else in 67 had thought about playing the Mellotron quite like that, and the song as a whole demonstrates the possibilities of Moroccan influence into blues/rock without sounding forced or trite - I can't remember where I read it right now but that was his hope with Beggar's, which unfortunately didn't really happen beyond a few subtle instances ('SFM', his Mellotron part on 'Stray Cat' maybe). There's this part right at the end of 'We Love You' where it sounds like they mixed in a sample of actual Moroccan music, maybe from tapes they made on one of their visits - it's mixed low but if you listen closely you'll probably hear it.

whitehallunity, Thursday, 30 May 2019 15:53 (three months ago) link

Yeah "We Love You" is a high water mark for them & will easily walk this, is my guess

One Eye Open, Thursday, 30 May 2019 16:22 (three months ago) link

Hard to think of 'We Love You' as a deep cut when it was a single.

Anyway, this is down to 'We Love You' vs. 'Time Waits For No One' vs. 'Heaven' and it's gonna be 'Time Waits For No One'

The Stones were stylistically diverse pretty much from the beginning, the only people that don't think so haven't heard anything prior to 1968 or anything after 1971.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:45 (three months ago) link

I love Jagger's guitar on "Heaven."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:45 (three months ago) link

stylistically diverse

I prefer "wildly erratic"

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:51 (three months ago) link

Yes, that too!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 30 May 2019 17:59 (three months ago) link

"fingerprint File?" "Continental Drift"?

veronica moser, Thursday, 30 May 2019 18:30 (three months ago) link

I love their cover of "Good Times" It sounds more 50s than anything else the Stones did.

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 31 May 2019 04:13 (three months ago) link

Rolling Stones: The Weirder Songs for discussion of these and others.

Hideous Lump, Friday, 31 May 2019 05:20 (three months ago) link

Yeah it’s weird that « WLY » is so underrated and mostly unknown to non music amateurs for a single released during their prime by one of the biggest bands in the world.
It might be my favourite single from their pre-Beggars period.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 31 May 2019 06:20 (three months ago) link

'I Just Want to See His Face', ahead of 'We Love You'.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 10:24 (three months ago) link

We Love You wasn’t a hit in the States and only appeared on double album compilations, which, you know, cost twice as much and were filled with songs that were already played to death. I first heard it on a mixtape in the late 80s from a UK friend, totally blew me away. Then came ten years of me contemplating getting More Hot Rocks, but not wanting to spend that much for one song when I already had most of the rest. One of the first things I grabbed from Napster.

bendy, Friday, 31 May 2019 11:34 (three months ago) link

in what universe does Shattered not sound exactly like a primo Stones jam but with a little chorus on the guitar

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 31 May 2019 11:50 (three months ago) link

^^ this

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2019 12:01 (three months ago) link

Come on didnt you read the article? Shattered is a "bizarre anomaly" because the Stones are "harmonica-slobbering blues purists"

One Eye Open, Friday, 31 May 2019 13:20 (three months ago) link

Only half of the Stones' catalogue consists of trve Stones material.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 May 2019 13:22 (three months ago) link

Come on didnt you read the article?

absolutely not

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 31 May 2019 13:26 (three months ago) link

Definitely a phase shifter though.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 31 May 2019 13:27 (three months ago) link

"We Love You" also wasn't an A-Side in the US, as London flipped it and pushed "Dandelion" harder ("WLU" hit #50 on the Hot 100 vs. "Dandelion" peaking at #14).

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 May 2019 13:36 (three months ago) link

voted for emotional rescue

flopson, Friday, 31 May 2019 21:58 (three months ago) link

Definitely a phase shifter though.


I was gonna say flanger but yeah, you’re right

calstars, Saturday, 1 June 2019 00:54 (three months ago) link

bop she do be

brimstead, Saturday, 1 June 2019 04:27 (three months ago) link

oh I guess it’s “unh shuh doobie”

brimstead, Saturday, 1 June 2019 04:28 (three months ago) link

"Continental Drift" off of Steel Wheels seems like it should be on this list.

Putting break loops into the Stones was pretty damn weird too.

earlnash, Sunday, 2 June 2019 20:54 (three months ago) link

XP That'd be the '75 tour. The bird thing was the logo for that one.

http://www.rirocks.net/images/Rolling%20Stones%201975%20ad.jpg

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 June 2019 21:12 (three months ago) link

Woody's '75 was insane: that Stones tour was bookended by the final tours by the Faces!

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 June 2019 21:15 (three months ago) link

Nice call.

earlnash, Sunday, 2 June 2019 23:06 (three months ago) link

Woody's '75 was insane: that Stones tour was bookended by the final tours by the Faces!

― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, June 2, 2019

Fortunately, Woody was a sober enough person to finish two tours without destroying his body.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2019 23:22 (three months ago) link

Hmmm I might not be much of a Stones fan because most of these are amongst my favorite songs in their respective albums. Yeah even “I just want to see his face”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 3 June 2019 01:03 (three months ago) link

Shattered might be my favorite song from them in the 70s even... and too much blood for the 80s.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 3 June 2019 01:07 (three months ago) link

'I Just Want To See His Face' - that song had a big impact on me, particularly learning how to sing in that high falsetto, the way Jagger does. When he sings like a girl, I go crazy. I said, 'I've got to learn how to do that.' I couldn't really do it until I stopped smoking. That's when it started getting easier to do. [Waits's own] 'Shore Leave' has that, 'All Stripped Down', 'Temptation'. Nobody does it like Mick Jagger; nobody does it like Prince. But this is just a tree of life. This record is the watering hole. Keith Richards plays his ass off. This has the Checkerboard Lounge all over it.

(Tomn Waits, 2005)

piscesx, Monday, 3 June 2019 01:27 (three months ago) link

Ah yeah it does seem to be a very “tom waits” sounding kind of song, doesn’t surprise me it had a strong influence on him.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 3 June 2019 16:38 (three months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 9 June 2019 00:01 (three months ago) link

I would vote for Bitter Sweet Symphony but not listed.

Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 9 June 2019 07:43 (three months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 10 June 2019 00:01 (three months ago) link

A worthy winner. 'Heaven' and 'Time Waits For No One' both underrated as hell.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 10 June 2019 00:07 (three months ago) link

Surprised that no-one in the thread mentioned the Lennon & McCartney vocals on 'We Love You', actually!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 10 June 2019 00:09 (three months ago) link


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