Coldplay - Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends POLL

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Strawberry Swing 6
Viva la Vida 5
Death and All His Friends 4
Chinese Sleep Chant 2
The Escapist 1
Violet Hill 1
Lovers in Japan 1
Yes 0
Reign of Love 0
42 0
Lost! 0
Cemeteries of London 0
Life in Technicolor 0


Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:56 (six months ago) link

i choose death

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 20:57 (six months ago) link

great record. title track followed by "chinese sleep chant" followed by "42"

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:06 (six months ago) link

Best version. The only version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3oToTpCy4o

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:07 (six months ago) link

i choose death

― michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 22:57

Over listening to Coldplay? Me too.

Duke, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:07 (six months ago) link

Ha, I had a feeling that this would irritate the musical snobs on here (both those who are willing to admit they are, and those that are but won't), but I've been listening to this album a fair bit over the last couple of days and finding myself equally surprised at how much I like this album and irritated that they've never been able to make anything anywhere near as good, either before or since. If the first three albums were the band trying to channel what they felt was great about Radiohead/U2/R.E.M./Echo & the Bunnymen/whatever Chris Martin was obsessed with at that moment and actually coming out with stock post-Britpop with eyes focusing more on stadiums with each album (although those albums aren't without their highlights - here's looking at you, 'God Put a Smile Upon Your Face'), this album feels like they tried to compress every single great idea they had into a concise album with production that provides candy for the ears and without sacrificing any of the accessibility. It's sonically - and songwriting-wise - far more adventurous that what they'd done before yet is not quite the tilt into full-on pop they'd make with Mylo Xyloto or A Head Full of Dreams, and coming after X&Y, which really should have painted the band into a corner and left them stone dead, was a huge surprise.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:07 (six months ago) link

gotta say i was very into this as a fifteen year old. good anthems, also kinda down with the richard sharpe cosplay. would still ride for cemeteries of london, violet hill and lovers in japan. viva la vida always sucked shit

devvvine, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:07 (six months ago) link

the ep with the b-sides from this record, prospekt's march, is also great if only for "glass of water" (less great for the jay-z version of "lost")

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:09 (six months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdZTjVL3ylU

wonderful song

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:10 (six months ago) link

In fact, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this record is one of the best records of the '00s, mainstream or otherwise. Yeahyeahyeahyeah, I can hear you being all like "what? no! fuck off!" but you're wrong!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:10 (six months ago) link

I don't think I have listened to this album in years and years, but I thought it was pretty good at the time.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:11 (six months ago) link

Yeah, 'Glass of Water' was definitely worthy of going on this album, but I've no idea whereabouts on the album it could have gone. The tracklisting is pretty perfect. This is, to date, the only Coldplay album that I can really listen to front-to-back without wanting to skip anything.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:21 (six months ago) link

pretty easily the best coldplay record, though not one of the best records of the 00s, and i agree with brad that some of prospekt's march is great too - "glass of water", "rainy day" and "prospekt's march/poppyfields" especially

voted for "strawberry swing"

ufo, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:30 (six months ago) link

I remember when Pet Shop Boys did Glastonbury (I think it when they were touring on Yes) and Neil Tennant was being interviewed and he said something along the lines of that when they first heard 'Viva la Vida', they thought "ooh, they've written a Pet Shop Boys song!"

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:32 (six months ago) link

Never listened to the album, then or since (out of snobbery and also there is so much other music), but the title track is as wonderful as it is cheesy and means as much to me personally as it is meaningless in actuality. Inextricably bound up with events in my life that started 11 years ago to the day(!) - Ill happily listen to this album to assess the rest of the tracks but my vote will be "Viva La Vida".

dorsalstop, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:42 (six months ago) link

Eno doesn't have the magic touch on every album works on, but he did a really great job on this record, which makes Mylo Xyloto all the more frustrating, in the sense that this album shows that they could have pulled off their version of Zooropa if they'd wanted, but instead they decided to go more pop.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 21:53 (six months ago) link

Sometimes I wish 'Chinese Sleep Chant' were twice as long. They never really returned to that territory again, and it's a shame.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 23:52 (six months ago) link

i don't recall liking much of this album honestly, or even the big single. i liked "lovers in japan" tho

dyl, Thursday, 23 May 2019 01:17 (six months ago) link

what’s the shuffly one with the organ, is that on this album?

brimstead, Thursday, 23 May 2019 01:21 (six months ago) link

that's "lost"

ufo, Thursday, 23 May 2019 02:16 (six months ago) link

they named the album "viva la vida" because to them this seemed like a good album title & that's the part that's hard for me to get my head around

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 23 May 2019 02:57 (six months ago) link

works as a tribute to vida blue

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 May 2019 03:00 (six months ago) link

xpost tbf they named it Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends, so even they hedged.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 03:55 (six months ago) link

I was single when this record came out and was dating a Canadian gal who was really into this album, there was a shoegaze-y/dream-pop song that wasn't terrible... after googling it's "Chinese Sleep Chant".

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 23 May 2019 05:09 (six months ago) link

I come off as an elitist twat kind of in that post, I actually like a couple Coldplay songs:

"Sparks" (reminds me of Little Wings) &
"Talk" ("Computer Love" is one of my fave songs and I like how they paid homage to it)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 23 May 2019 05:14 (six months ago) link

Their best album by far. One of the best of the 00s? Don’t be a cretin.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 23 May 2019 05:57 (six months ago) link

Don't be a 'musical snob'.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2019 06:47 (six months ago) link

*digs out Scik's positive Keane review* ;)

imago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 06:51 (six months ago) link

Yeahyeahyeahyeah, I can hear you being all like "what? no! fuck off!" but you're wrong!

a person who believes that their tastes in a particular area are superior to those of other people.
"a musical snob"

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 23 May 2019 10:26 (six months ago) link

Their best album by far. One of the best of the 00s? Don’t be a cretin.

― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:57 AM(five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ See what I mean, re: the musical snobbery issue? I mean, god forbid that Coldplay made one of the best albums of the '00s! Which they did, and throwing around words like "cretin" doesn't change this.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:21 (six months ago) link

and there were a lot of great albums released in the '00s.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:22 (six months ago) link

I mean, this album is flawlessly written, impeccably produced, absolutely breezes by as a start-to-finish listen (it doesn't sag at all), remains sonically interesting throughout and has zero filler, so I mean it obviously is a great record. That it irritates people because Coldplay made it says more about what they're unable to do than what Coldplay have done.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:36 (six months ago) link

clodyalp

nashwan, Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:42 (six months ago) link

Textbook self-clowning.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:44 (six months ago) link

Do you have anything to say about the record, Tom?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:50 (six months ago) link

Charlie Watts is great on it.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:51 (six months ago) link

Ah, I see - you haven't and you're only on this thread to troll. FP'd.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:54 (six months ago) link

Seriously though, I cannot stand Chris Martin's voice, which is somewhat of a drawback to appreciating Coldplay, who, otherwise, I don't have any great dislike of.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:54 (six months ago) link

(xp) LOL, you need to take a break from ILM, you're just making a fool of yourself.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:55 (six months ago) link

Ah, okay, well that's fair enough - I feel pretty much the same way about Tom Waits.

(x-post)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:55 (six months ago) link

Tom Waits, is he someone musical snobs like?

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:57 (six months ago) link

(I don't like him either btw!)

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 May 2019 11:58 (six months ago) link

Am I musical snob if loved the first album, liked some songs of the second, then refused to listen to anything by them again after the first time I heard "Fix You"?

enochroot, Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:08 (six months ago) link

fair reaction but it also makes me think you'd dig this record

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:12 (six months ago) link

Yeah, I agree. Even at the time I thought that X&Y was gonna be the record that would finish them off.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:45 (six months ago) link

It's a bit OTT to call this record "impeccably written" but it is very well produced and arranged and performed, which more than makes up for the worst of Coldplay's inclinations (which manifested soon enough).

A mystery to me: the band worked very closely with Eno again on Zenyatta Xyloto or whatever, to the extent that he gets a "Additional composition by Brian Eno" credit. But ... he is not credited as a producer, and the album comes off as a boring pop response to the stuff they did on this album. Wonder what happened? Martin comes off pretty self-aware in this interview but also concedes he'd do anything Eno asked. Maybe Coldplay's pop direction, like 2000s U2, was Eno's doing!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:59 (six months ago) link

(sad lol, I've been playing this album in the background and tbh it was all a bit much so I had to turn it off)

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:03 (six months ago) link

It's a bit OTT to call this record "impeccably written"

Elaborate.

it was all a bit much so I had to turn it off

"a bit much" in what way?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:17 (six months ago) link

As I remembered the album there was I thought a bit more weirdness, but as I listened to it today however many years later it seemed pretty steeped in the usual "whoaoahoah" Coldplayisms. Given the relationship between Dravs and Eno I figured that was why he was involved, but I think they hooked up with Markus Dravs for a bit of that millennial whoop Arcade Fire stuff, like a lot of acts were doing at the time

As for how it's written, again, it was playing in the background, but a lot of the album sounded pretty (literally) sketchy to me, like a bunch of ideas and hooks and whatnot cobbled together - often in a cool way but not always as good start-to-finish songs so much as catchy mood pieces.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:29 (six months ago) link

But I won't die on that (violet) hill.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:30 (six months ago) link

I’m down with Delacroix though

brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2019 00:21 (six months ago) link

the pet shop boys viva la vida cover vs their where the streets have no names cover

ufo, Friday, 24 May 2019 00:24 (six months ago) link

maybe its the arrangement that’s bad? Idk not a pleasant experience

brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2019 00:27 (six months ago) link

Then perhaps you'd like to elaborate on why you think it's an objectively bad song? If only because "it's not a pleasant experience" is about as subjective as it gets?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 24 May 2019 00:44 (six months ago) link

I liked Coldplay's first three albums quite a bit. I saw them at Madison Square Garden on the Rush of Blood tour and really enjoyed it. But I found this album overdone, like they were trying way too hard to come up with sounds that would make people say "Well, I didn't expect that from Coldplay."

I believe that trying to come up with something that sonically was a break from their previous three records was the point!

It's always a bad sign when a band starts dressing in faux-military or mock-marching band uniforms, too.

Why is this a "bad sign"? Because The Beatles did it?

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 24 May 2019 00:47 (six months ago) link

Which is the one they stole from Joe Satriani?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 May 2019 00:52 (six months ago) link

Why is this a "bad sign"? Because The Beatles did it?

I had actually forgotten that they did this, because I am at the point where I never think about the Beatles unless someone else brings them up. It's a bad sign because it signals that a concept album or some other type of Statement may be on the horizon (cf. My Chemical Romance). The only band that can really pull off faux-military uniforms is Laibach, for obvious reasons.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 24 May 2019 00:58 (six months ago) link

id always thought the uniforms were directly inspired by arcade fire who they talked a lot about at the time and were clearly heavily influenced by, but the beatles were probably part of it too

ufo, Friday, 24 May 2019 01:02 (six months ago) link

i actually got a free copy of this CD as it was left in a rental car. i only played it a couple of times because around this time i was over Coldplay. i will have to throw it on inbetween Beck songs and pick a song.

Bee OK, Friday, 24 May 2019 01:14 (six months ago) link

I agree with everyone in this thread insofar as this is one of the best albums of the decade and I'm also too snobby to ever listen to it for pleasure purposes

It's strange though, these secret uncool albums that are made and are awesome but are just too uncool for your consumption, and yet through corporate means or otherwise they still find their way into your pharmacy shopping experiences, and you have this incredible moment of musical epiphany when you're purchasing deodorant, and Chris Martin is suddenly "singing about me, he's literally reading my mind, this is incredible,"

And I don't have much else too add except that I saw them on this tour and it was a truly life-defining moment because I was 5th row and I turned around like every song when things got very Coldplay-esque and watched an entire stadium of people less cool than me experience emotions that I'm too dead to ever experience myself

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 May 2019 02:33 (six months ago) link

Then perhaps you'd like to elaborate on why you think it's an objectively bad song? If only because "it's not a pleasant experience" is about as subjective as it gets?


Oh cmon man I was parodying your authoritative tone

brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2019 02:33 (six months ago) link

yeah I’m too cool for this album ok lol

brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2019 02:35 (six months ago) link

about viva la vida the title track

1) the strings kind of smother everything
2) his delivery, he sounds moon eyed and dumb and like he’s slowly approaching me with a syringe, it just doesn’t work with the lyrics well
3) It’s just not a great tune. Melodically, harmonically, rhythmically, whatever

brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2019 02:50 (six months ago) link

What appeals to me about Viva La Vida is that the lyrics kinda deal with a topic that I haven’t heard dealt with with such grace in a another #1 single, basically,: “oh wow I’m 32 and the denial of my youthful agency is taking on internal proportions that I would describe as biblical”

Kill me for being a sucker for a big single that describes a universal experience in a singular manner

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 24 May 2019 03:29 (six months ago) link

Then perhaps you'd like to elaborate on why you think it's an objectively bad song?

Objectively bad?

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Friday, 24 May 2019 06:45 (six months ago) link

I only like a handful of Coldplay songs but listened to this all the way through for the first time last night. In terms of production/sonics it's a lot stronger than what they'd done previously but bar a few exceptions I just don't think they write particularly interesting melodies. Would give my vote to 'Death and All His Friends'.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 24 May 2019 09:22 (six months ago) link

I saw them on this tour and it was a truly life-defining moment because I was 5th row and I turned around like every song when things got very Coldplay-esque and watched an entire stadium of people less cool than me experience emotions that I'm too dead to ever experience myself

This is very much what my experience was like seeing them on the Rush of Blood tour. I distinctly remember thinking that this was not music that would work in a small club at all - they really needed the giant scale of an arena and a massive worshipful crowd singing along for their music to do its job properly.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 24 May 2019 10:13 (six months ago) link

i.e. the U2 Effect

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 May 2019 10:44 (six months ago) link

What appeals to me about Viva La Vida is that the lyrics kinda deal with a topic that I haven’t heard dealt with with such grace in a another #1 single, basically,: “oh wow I’m 32 and the denial of my youthful agency is taking on internal proportions that I would describe as biblical”

Kill me for being a sucker for a big single that describes a universal experience in a singular manner

There you go. I was 36 and my 10+ year relationship had just ended. Believe you me I connected with this. Never mind if the strings "smother everything" or if it's "impeccably produced"(?), this song is REAL.

dorsalstop, Friday, 24 May 2019 11:36 (six months ago) link

in his 60s my dad adopted it as his anthem when he and my mom got divorced

normally chris martin is a terrible lyricist (i think he's even copped to this, his lyrics are more space fillers than they are expressing anything usually) but "viva la vida" is p easily his best work

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 24 May 2019 11:49 (six months ago) link

I have no idea what the lyrics to any Coldplay song are so it’s the string patches, which sound like a free software demo, that ruin the song for me.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 24 May 2019 11:52 (six months ago) link

Yeah 'Viva La Vida' I was close to liking but the strings and the 'whoahoh' bit sort of spoil it. Full disclosure, I have a sort of lingering resentment towards the singles as they were on the radio all the time during a particularly depressing time at my depressing previous job.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 24 May 2019 11:59 (six months ago) link

fuck coldplay and all your feeble human emotions!!!!!!!!!!

big gym sw0les (crüt), Friday, 24 May 2019 12:05 (six months ago) link

the strings on vlv are live, though recorded one at time and overdubbed instead of using a string section or orchestra, but i can hear how they'd be mistaken for synths

i don't love it but i can agree it's one of martin's few decent lyrics and certainly the best out of their biggest hits. there's a lot of really nice sonic touches throughout, presumably thanks to eno, and i like the choral backing vocals at around 2:12 a lot.

ufo, Friday, 24 May 2019 12:30 (six months ago) link

recorded one at time and overdubbed instead of using a string section or orchestra

Just ftr there is absolutely no reason to ever do this, unless you're just actively trying to waste your label's money. Especially not if you're gonna get the results these dorks got.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 24 May 2019 13:03 (six months ago) link

https://vimeo.com/116989320

oh actually at about 4:50 here davide rossi's (who arranged and played the strings on it) thing is explained - he's figured out some setup with multiple microphones to get an orchestral sound from a single violin when those tracks are put together, and then he overdubs loops etc

but i don't really get it

ufo, Friday, 24 May 2019 13:17 (six months ago) link

revisiting a rush of blood to the head and wow “god put a smile upon your face” is a really good song

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 24 May 2019 14:21 (six months ago) link

riff is very radiohead but the rhythm section take it in kind of a post-punky direction and it sounds fantastic

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 24 May 2019 14:24 (six months ago) link

Yeah, I completely agree. It was my favourite song on the album by a long way even at the time, and for me it's still the highlight and has retained its freshness, whereas other songs on that record - 'Clocks' and 'The Scientist' mostly - were killed very quickly for me by overplay. I like 'Daylight' also, even if it's not quite as good as 'God Put a Smile Upon Your Face'

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:39 (six months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 00:01 (six months ago) link

Just ftr there is absolutely no reason to ever do this, unless you're just actively trying to waste your label's money. Especially not if you're gonna get the results these dorks got.

― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, May 24, 2019 1:03 PM (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's, of course, a very good reason to do this. If things are recorded separately, it gives whoever it mixing the record more flexibility and control at the mixing stage without having to worry about bleed. The downside of this, of course, is that it can also feel a little sterile, but in this case I think the band were just trying a different approach and seeing what happened. I think the end result sounds great, of course.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 00:33 (six months ago) link

Uh, hey. I have done exactly that on hundreds of records. There are ways to make overdubbed single violins sound wonderful. It isn't easy and there are lots of methods and tricks, but Davide's method sounds really good to me.

It is really expensive to hire orchestras on albums, and especially expensive for major label artists such as Coldplay; major labels oftentimes have mores stringent requirements with regards to adhering to union regulations with your choice of orchestra.

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 02:45 (six months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 00:01 (six months ago) link

I went with 'Chinese Sleep Chant' in the end, but 'Cemeteries of London', 'Lost!' and '42' all deserved a vote.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 00:04 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

the new songs are a return to VLV's art-rock lite so they've vaguely got my interest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goyq7GDYEkE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJNG3WmsOs4

ufo, Sunday, 27 October 2019 08:50 (one month ago) link

"arabesque" rules

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 28 October 2019 02:00 (one month ago) link

Yeah, "Arabesque" makes me think they've been listening to 70s Afro-rock.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 28 October 2019 02:02 (one month ago) link

...Drew Goddard (the director) has a writing credit on that?

Simon H., Monday, 28 October 2019 05:42 (one month ago) link

they've absolutely been listening to 70s afro-rock - the "music is a weapon" bit is a fela kuti sample and one of his sons and one of his grandsons play on it. palestinian oud trio le trio joubran also play on it

ufo, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:51 (one month ago) link

"orphans" feels especially indebted to the unforgettable fire & the joshua tree, even for them, but that's not a bad thing

ufo, Monday, 28 October 2019 11:18 (one month ago) link

"Arabesque" was a nice surprise, but that "Orphans" song sounds pretty generic to me, not unlike that loosely Afro-poppy "Adventure of a Lifetime" song of theirs or one of those recent Beck songs."Colors?"

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 October 2019 11:48 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

i think this new album might be their best, pleasantly surprised

ufo, Thursday, 21 November 2019 21:00 (three weeks ago) link

"trouble in town" is really cool

ufo, Friday, 22 November 2019 06:21 (three weeks ago) link

livestream of their performance in jordan right now on youtube

DT, Friday, 22 November 2019 06:36 (three weeks ago) link

"Church" is very much the same widescreen late 90s downtempo-influenced-by-"world music" feeling as Ray of Light and i love it

ufo, Saturday, 23 November 2019 02:24 (three weeks ago) link

this album is excellent

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:50 (two weeks ago) link

unfortunately Chris "Lib Dem" Martin is now cancelled

FBPRieu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 November 2019 16:51 (two weeks ago) link

the first side is really wonderful the whole way through, even the lyrics of "daddy" can't make me dislike it. it's a shame nothing else is quite as adventurous as "arabesque" for them but as i said before "church" and "trouble in town" are highlights too

the second side is much more inconsistent though, "cry cry cry" is horribly cloying and a terrible use of that sample, it's the only track i skip. "bani adam" is an interlude in form but longer than a lot of the proper songs and both parts of it are fairly insubstantial. "eko" and "old friends" are gorgeous folk ballads at least, some of their very prettiest. "orphans" is one of the few concessions to radio and arenas but evokes the wide open desert feeling of joshua tree-era u2 in a really nice way, especially the verse. the chorus is a little clunky but as far as big coldplay arena anthems go i really like it. the other one on this album, "champion of the world" is plodding and forgettable though

ufo, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 11:43 (two weeks ago) link

i think they get away with the earnest prettiness of tracks like "daddy" here because they don't aim for any sort of big arena-rock emotional catharsis climax in the way they usually would. they're happy just to let the songs be extremely pretty and float along (and really they're recorded so gorgeously here!)

ufo, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 11:47 (two weeks ago) link

Best Coldplay album in 11 years. Looks like EDM and loudness war is finally toned down a good bit.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 12:32 (two weeks ago) link


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