Cause when our POLL did meet, Girl you know I was packin' heat! - ILM Artist Poll #97 - BECK (Voting is open until Saturday, June 1, 2019)

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I’m actually seeing Beck (with Spoon) in July of this year, I wanted to do this poll before that show. I have a very tight window where I can do this poll so there will not be an extension, please plan accordingly.

Ballot Part Number One (Mandatory) - Your Top 25 Beck tracks (or less: min. 5). Please order your list with #1 at the top and #25 at the bottom, no need to number them. I will take unranked lists, just clearly state that yours is unranked.

Ballot Part Two (Optional) – Your Top 7 Albums (or less min. 2).

Ballot Part Three (Optional) = Your Top 5 Videos (or less min. 2).

Send ballots to: thebeckpoll AT gmail dot com. Please include your username.

Voting is open until Saturday, June 1, 2019 Midnight Los Angeles time zone (Pacific Time).

Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 04:10 (one week ago) Permalink

lets have some fun!

Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 04:10 (one week ago) Permalink

oh cool, it should be fun to dig through beck's discography, a lot of stuff there i haven't listened to in a long time

want to start off by repping for his philip glass remix thing which i remember being really lovely

https://soundcloud.com/dunvagenmusic/nyc-73-78

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 04:23 (one week ago) Permalink

aw yeah

my goodness

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 04:55 (one week ago) Permalink

I wanted to have a third part but didn't quite know what to do. I saw that Beck has 40 music videos and decided to go with that.

That will be a wild category.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:41 (one week ago) Permalink

I really like the song "Colors," not sure if I like it enough to break into my personal Top 25 Beck songs though. Can't vouch for the full album however, as I have only heard it once. It was very electronic from what I remember.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRCA_Fo0rWA

the future is now, Thursday, 16 May 2019 21:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Vote Beercan.

triggercut, Friday, 17 May 2019 03:09 (one week ago) Permalink

i need some confidence ILM. are we excited about a Beck poll?

Bee OK, Friday, 17 May 2019 17:48 (one week ago) Permalink

I don't know Beck well, but am interested in the results.

Is it just me or is it slightly odd that a massive genre-based poll has suddenly commenced too?

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 17 May 2019 22:36 (one week ago) Permalink

Truly Lawless Times, These.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:42 (one week ago) Permalink

I'll vote

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 May 2019 00:12 (six days ago) Permalink

Here is another later song by Beck that I might end up voting for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrG6xBW5Wk

the future is now, Saturday, 18 May 2019 18:43 (six days ago) Permalink

went through my first big breakup shortly after Sea Change came out so going to be a lot from that. also, Odelay still sounds very cool imo

gman59, Saturday, 18 May 2019 19:22 (six days ago) Permalink

ok, i'm far from a beck know-it-all but some stuff i recommend - mostly late-period stuff because that's the era i got into him:

vampire voltage no. 6
deadweight
funky li'l song
gimme (extended version)
debra (kcrw '98 version)
santorini (record club: live at the acropolis)
nostalgia (record club: live at the acropolis)
nyc 73-78 (seconding)
green light
timebomb
scarecrow (el-p remix)
harry partch
banjo (the banjo story)

the commonplace is that somewhere in the 2000s he stopped making interesting music, but as far as i can tell that's not actually true, it's just that he stopped putting interesting music on his albums. nyc 73-78 is the outstanding example but not the only example.

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Saturday, 18 May 2019 21:39 (six days ago) Permalink

Beck >>>> ambient. I'll have fun voting in this

imago, Saturday, 18 May 2019 21:42 (six days ago) Permalink

I'm not as familiar with post-Sea Change stuff but there's some gems in the self-released flood that came in the 00's and later

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 18 May 2019 23:49 (six days ago) Permalink

have been trying to start putting together a ballot but it's been kinda hard since he's so all over the place and even at his best there's this sense of detachment that makes it hard for me to love his music - i certainly like a lot of his stuff but there's not much i feel really strongly about. i have enjoyed rediscovering Mutations though, a lot better than i remembered it being

ufo, Sunday, 19 May 2019 08:06 (five days ago) Permalink

I better see "Nitemare Hippy Girl" on ballots.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 May 2019 11:53 (five days ago) Permalink

i think i might have arrived at my 'midnite vultures is the best beck album' phase

ufo, Sunday, 19 May 2019 12:16 (five days ago) Permalink

I better see "Nitemare Hippy Girl" on ballots.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, May 19, 2019 1:53 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Otm. And 'Rowboat'. And 'Totally confused'.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 May 2019 12:16 (four days ago) Permalink

This will be a fun poll and I am excited for this poll, Bee OK thank u for doing this poll. Agree w/rushomancy that a surprisingly large amount of his best stuff is non-album/unreleased/one-off tracks. Very curious to see what % of my ballot will end up being nonalbum stuff, my feeling is it may be high.

I was a massive fan up through Sea Change, fully stopped paying attention after Modern Guilt, pretty happy with that decision despite my love for just about everything up through 2008. At this point I'm pretty much just sitting back and waiting for him to do a massive Neil Young Archives-style vault-emptying project.

One Eye Open, Monday, 20 May 2019 12:59 (four days ago) Permalink

I never manage to get my shit together in time to vote in these polls but I'm gonna really try with this one. Right now my list would pretty much exclusively be Vultures and earlier so we'll see if further listening changes that equation. I have a pretty good recollection of Sea Change and Guero and maybe a few songs from the last two albums, but Information and Modern Guilt are total blanks for me off the top of my head.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:03 (four days ago) Permalink

I met you...at JC POLLney

calstars, Monday, 20 May 2019 15:06 (four days ago) Permalink

Right now my list would pretty much exclusively be Vultures and earlier

cosign, I will really try to give the later stuff a chance but the 90's material is huge for me

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:07 (four days ago) Permalink

Good poll for me: approximately 10 songs I love--no more, no less.

clemenza, Monday, 20 May 2019 15:13 (four days ago) Permalink

This has nothing to do with the poll; but Disney’s Zootopia was on TV this morning, and I’m always intrigued by the scene where a depressed Judy Hops scrolls the radio dial and keeps encountering songs that reflect her state of mind (“Everybody Hurts,” “All by Myself”...). The final song snippet is a generic guy singing, “I’m a looooserrr...”. It seems v clear that they wanted to license the Beck song, but it didn’t work out, so they commissioned a new song with the same lyric (taking care to make it completely different otherwise). Does he not license his stuff?

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:38 (four days ago) Permalink

Can’t think of any examples but I’m p sure he generally does? Maybe he still has lingering discomfort about not wanting to be The Loser Song Guy

One Eye Open, Monday, 20 May 2019 15:52 (four days ago) Permalink

You know, I guess it’s also possible that the Beck song was deemed not suitable for a Disney movie, due to the second half of the chorus (even though they wouldn’t have included that part).

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:52 (four days ago) Permalink

That’s a good theory

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 May 2019 19:54 (four days ago) Permalink

There are so many great Beck lines--please don't give in to a dumb pun for the title.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 04:21 (three days ago) Permalink

Not directed at anyone specific, on this or any other poll-thread. It's just something I don't understand. It's a tradition like when they stone the woman at the end of Shirley Jackson's "The Lottery": it's a tradition because it's a tradition, but if you asked anyone to explain why, I bet no one could.

She Can Talk to Squirrels: The Beck Poll
The Drugs Won't Kill Your Day Job: The Beck Poll
Kill the Headlights and Put It in Neutral: The Beck Poll
Where the Puzzles and Pagans Lay: The Beck Poll

Something. Anything.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:22 (three days ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhmnT4KpXGQ

i always forget how energetic a performer he used to be

ufo, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 11:49 (three days ago) Permalink

Whiskey-Stained Buck-Toothed Backwoods Creep: The Beck Poll.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:26 (three days ago) Permalink

bad pun derived from artist lyric >>>>> random cool artist lyric. i don't know how this is even an argument. maybe this particular bad pun for Beck could have been improved (I do prefer "JC POLL-ney") but either is way preferable to even the best lyrical snippet.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:57 (three days ago) Permalink

i always forget how energetic a performer he used to be

― ufo, Tuesday, May 21, 2019 4:49 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i saw him live a few years ago and: he still is!

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:06 (three days ago) Permalink

bad pun derived from artist lyric >>>>> random cool artist lyric. i don't know how this is even an argument. maybe this particular bad pun for Beck could have been improved (I do prefer "JC POLL-ney") but either is way preferable to even the best lyrical snippet.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, May 21, 2019 7:57 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Like a POLLL...that's ripe for the votin'

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:29 (three days ago) Permalink

Soy Un POLL-dedor

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:53 (three days ago) Permalink

lol

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 13:54 (three days ago) Permalink

Beck's lyrical snippets are almost uniquely suited to make good thread titles, but yeah I'm on team bad pun all the way.

Seeing him in 1998 with the Odelay band was one of the most fun & energetic shows I've ever seen. But then I saw him a couple times when he did the tour with Flaming Lips a few years later and he seemed like he was about to fall asleep onstage both times, just completely checked out. I'm not really interested in the new album but I've heard that the shows have been super fun, which is good to hear.

One Eye Open, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:06 (three days ago) Permalink

both shows I saw were killers where he just tore it up. Odelay tour in '96 was total insanity with a packed house, first time I heard "Debra" and it stuck in my head for years. then I saw some gig post-Sea Change/Lips tour and it was great again, they opened with "Novacane" and did a buncha Midnite Vultures tunes before he did his sleepy acoustic interlude, then back to more full band action.

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:16 (three days ago) Permalink

My ideas have been polly rejected.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:41 (three days ago) Permalink

Everybody's Out to POLL YOU Motherfucker

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:42 (three days ago) Permalink

ILX Makes me wanna smoke crack

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 14:53 (three days ago) Permalink

I'm a loser babe so why don't you poll me?

WmC, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 16:41 (three days ago) Permalink

Don't...Let...The Sun...Catch Ya...POLLIN'

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 17:01 (three days ago) Permalink

^^ "Deadweight" (where that lyric is from) is a great non-LP single

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 17:02 (three days ago) Permalink

People roll their eyes when aging artists enter their "great American songbook", but Beck is one artist where I would be way into it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcmmw5HNGOY

One Eye Open, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 17:17 (three days ago) Permalink

Objections stated, but if you've gotta go that way, I like WmC's title.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 18:06 (three days ago) Permalink

So meta
Let’s poll a title too

calstars, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 18:17 (three days ago) Permalink

Clementa, I will take it under consideration but I think you're being outnumbered on this one.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 21 May 2019 21:32 (three days ago) Permalink

Shout Out to "Fume"!

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 May 2019 03:42 (yesterday) Permalink

xp Diamond Bollocks is one of the GOAT

billstevejim, Thursday, 23 May 2019 06:01 (yesterday) Permalink

xp I never realized "Devil's Haircut" video is a Midnight Cowboy homage til now.

billstevejim, Thursday, 23 May 2019 06:13 (yesterday) Permalink

I take it the Noel Gallagher remix of "Devils Haircut" will not figure.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 May 2019 07:37 (yesterday) Permalink

driveby body POLL

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 14:36 (yesterday) Permalink

this is probably missing the point but i wish there were an entire album of screaming noise rock beck a la "mutherfucker" "pink noise" back half of "fume" etc.

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:40 (yesterday) Permalink

and "Spanking Room"!

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:42 (yesterday) Permalink

anyway the b-side i would like to rep for is "thunder peel," both in stereopathic and odelay forms

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:45 (yesterday) Permalink

wait there's an Odelay version ?!?!?

that song rules, definitely making my ballot

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:47 (yesterday) Permalink

check out the deluxe version of odelay!

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:47 (yesterday) Permalink

just looked it up, whoa man I have gotta get that!

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:48 (yesterday) Permalink

never heard either "Inferno" or "Gold Chains", this makes my day

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 23 May 2019 17:49 (yesterday) Permalink

gahh so many tracks I've never heard, all those radio show one-offs

https://www.discogs.com/robot-jazz-vol-1-6/release/11220708

YSI?

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 23 May 2019 18:04 (yesterday) Permalink

I was v excited to hear "Inferno" and "Gold Chains" when the deluxe odelay came out but ended up finding them a bit disappointing, I guess they each contained samples that were deemed too expensive to clear, and so were reworked/rerecorded to a certain extent supposedly? I feel like I can hear it, they each sound like theyre missing a little something compared to the dense sound of the other odelay party jams. "Inferno" fairly wild but still sounds like a dress rehearsal for "High 5" to me.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:24 (yesterday) Permalink

reading up on our friend Beck while listening to his catalogue last night and learned he just split with his wife of 15 years (Giovani Ribisi's twin sister), that's a drag.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:37 (yesterday) Permalink

Apparently he released a new single with Pharrell last month?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXrlWw3yhW4

One Eye Open, Thursday, 23 May 2019 19:48 (yesterday) Permalink

love that odelay is one of those cd-era albums that informs you when the first side ends and the second side starts

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:02 (yesterday) Permalink

stuck together like a readymade!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:05 (yesterday) Permalink

"inferno" is absolutely amazing but i can barely evaluate it as a "song" to "vote" "for"

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 20:48 (yesterday) Permalink

"where it's at" song/video combo weirded me out pretty hard when i was a kid, like i couldn't even figure the song out enough to know if i liked it, but when "the new pollution" video hit mtv it was like nothing i had ever seen or heard before (of course it was actually several things that had been seen or heard before combined) and i looooved dancing along to it in my room

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 21:18 (yesterday) Permalink

he also played some sort of mtv show that year (vmas? probably?) and i spent the whole time thinking "this music is great and he's dancing so much but how is this guy considered cool? he looks like a huge dork like me!" tbf i was in elementary school and did not know what cool was

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 21:21 (yesterday) Permalink

But you knew what a dork was, right?

Mark G, Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:36 (yesterday) Permalink

yeah it was me

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:37 (yesterday) Permalink

Have we as a board discussed how Beck would be beyond cancelled if he released Mixed Bizness today?

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:41 (yesterday) Permalink

have we as a board decided we're not going to debate National Review headlines?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:42 (yesterday) Permalink

Midnite Vultures I mean

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:42 (yesterday) Permalink

it sucked then and it still sucks

brimstead, Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:46 (yesterday) Permalink

lol I respectfully disagree

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:49 (yesterday) Permalink

The second half (except "Debra") >>> first half

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:50 (yesterday) Permalink

just gonna leave this here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EksGJTUaTuc

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 23 May 2019 22:53 (yesterday) Permalink

midnite vultures rules so much, i have no idea how he made some of the ridiculous ideas on it work

ufo, Thursday, 23 May 2019 23:11 (yesterday) Permalink

huh one foot in the grave is a really good album

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 23:25 (yesterday) Permalink

yes, it really is, I think "Hollow Log" placed in the recent "Best Songs Under 120 Seconds" poll?

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 23 May 2019 23:37 (yesterday) Permalink

thirded

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2019 23:39 (yesterday) Permalink

"forcefield" is prob gonna be high on my ballot but it's early

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 May 2019 23:41 (yesterday) Permalink

“Beautiful way” is nice
The backing track of “Hollywood freaks” is nice
The chorus of “milk and honey” is pretty slammin

brimstead, Friday, 24 May 2019 00:26 (seven hours ago) Permalink

Re:Midnite Vultures, I think about that sometimes. I was young so I could be wrong, but I feel like I remember a vibe of some corners of white altrock people reading it, approvingly, as a joke/parody. Like "LOL Beck the wacky loser guy doing an R&B album, that guy'll do anything, what a laff!" (Or maybe thats just me remembering the reactions of my dumbass white suburban friends.) Where today obviously the criticism would come from the opposite angle, like "how dare he not treat these musics reverentially".

One Eye Open, Friday, 24 May 2019 00:41 (seven hours ago) Permalink

Beautiful Way will be on my ballot for sure

Simon H., Friday, 24 May 2019 00:44 (seven hours ago) Permalink

I remember a 30 second snippet of "Beautiful Way" being included as part of Windows 2000, playing it in Windows Media Player and the cover art coming up, and being like "wow i am truly living in the future"

One Eye Open, Friday, 24 May 2019 00:55 (seven hours ago) Permalink

"nicotine & gravy" will be in my top 5 for sure

ufo, Friday, 24 May 2019 00:57 (seven hours ago) Permalink

I've been listening to Beck in the car the past few days...well, Mellow Gold. A Beck poll is not the best place for misgivings, but:

1) I think half of Mellow Gold is good to great to borderline genius ("Loser").
2) I tried Odelay!, too. Two songs I still love ("Devil's Haircut," "Jackass"), another good, lengthy, low-key closer, and past that a whole lot of nothing. Which I think is what I thought at the time. It won Pazz & Jop (I think it did, anyway) on sheer momentum from Mellow Gold.
3) I voted for a couple of later songs in Pazz & Jop that I keep on my hard drive, "Chemtrails" and "Don't Let It Go." Listening to them right now, especially next to Mellow Gold's best songs, they seem quite marginal.

He'll make it into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (next year?), which he should.

clemenza, Friday, 24 May 2019 01:12 (six hours ago) Permalink

yeah that's maybe my favorite Beck deep cut when I DJ out

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 24 May 2019 01:45 (six hours ago) Permalink

i don't think i've ever heard all of mutations before today. production on that album is really something. timelessness is not a quality i care about v much but there's a really beautiful out of time feeling to the whole record

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 24 May 2019 02:59 (five hours ago) Permalink

Justin Meldal-Johnsen – bass, percussion, background vocals
Roger Manning – synthesizer, organ, keyboards, harpsichord, background vocals, percussion

ah i see this album marks the appearance of my main dudes

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 24 May 2019 03:05 (four hours ago) Permalink

I'm not sure about the whole 'Momentum from Mellow Gold' thing. Prior to Odelay, a lot of people were ready to write him off as a one-hit wonder even though he had cultivated a bit of a cult following (and accrued more indie cred) thanks to OFITG. Then Odelay and "Where It's At" arrived, and suddenly HE WAS THE GUY. I remember reading some article about another artist (Garbage maybe?) in Spin wherein the writer was talking about the '97 Grammies w/Beck as "The Appointed 'Cool Guest'". To me, this was less about surfing momentum, and more like beating the odds by delivering the goods.

It's kind of forgotten now, but according to Beck, he claimed* that prior to the Dust Bros. sessions, he actually had recorded another album of what he described as guitar rock songs (of which, I think only "Minus" was released), but elected to not release it as he felt that style was passe`. I get the feeling if he had put that record out, we wouldn't be talking about him as much now (or then).

*I say 'claimed' because I just checked wiki and the unreleased album mentioned there doesn't match the stylistic description. Also: Beck is a world-class bullshitter.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 24 May 2019 03:48 (four hours ago) Permalink

a lot of people were ready to write him off as a one-hit wonder

I think there's some truth to that, and I used to find the parallel there to Eminem really interesting: he went from the novelty of "My Name Is" to perennial Pazz & Jop guy a year later. But I also remember critical excitement over "Where's It At" (which for me was a mildly amusing cipher at best) and thinking yes, he was the guy all of sudden, but seemingly because a lot of critics had decided that in advance. Which is not unusual with follow-ups to much-discussed breakthrough albums. Except for the three songs I mentioned above, I just don't hear anything else on the album.

clemenza, Friday, 24 May 2019 05:01 (two hours ago) Permalink

i don't think i've ever heard all of mutations before today

WHAT

Waronker does a great job on that one when he's called upon, also ("Diamond Bollocks" mostly)

Simon H., Friday, 24 May 2019 05:10 (two hours ago) Permalink

Mutations has always been my fave and nothing will budge it

Simon H., Friday, 24 May 2019 05:14 (two hours ago) Permalink

Same -- Lazy Flies is all-time for me, partly because of the vocab (magistrate, debris, mangroves, sulphur, trawlers, opiates, syphilis, matrons, gigolos) but also because of whatever Waronker is doing in the second half.

orifex, Friday, 24 May 2019 05:52 (two hours ago) Permalink

Sunday Sun!

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 24 May 2019 05:56 (two hours ago) Permalink


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