Living Together, Polling Together — it's the BURT BACHARACH SONGBOOK Ballot Poll

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a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 May 2019 02:16 (five years ago) link

Ah, RIP

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 03:15 (five years ago) link

Here's a challop -- I don't really like Aretha's "I Say a Little Prayer." I don't like how she lays out in the choruses and lets the backup singers do the work.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 13:19 (five years ago) link

Finished my ballot, with a few days to ponder it before I call it final.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link

xp
I getcha. But. Counterpoint: those hand-offs to the backing singers work really well in the verses.

Jeff W, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link

Been meaning to throw this in for a while, so may as well do it now.

When it comes to the most renowned songwriters with large songbooks, like Bacharach & David, does anyone else attach a greater premium to whether the singer interprets the song just so, how well they express the lyric or the melody than to originality of interpretation or arrangement? To the extent that you don't think of new versions as "covers", only good or bad interpretations of a set text.

Contrast with most pop music, where what I'm looking for in a good cover version includes deviation from the prototype, unexpected takes and angles, and so on.

Not saying either of the above is correct or a good thing, it's just what I do. Just wondered if I'm alone in drawing that distinction.

Jeff W, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link

I'm in roughly the same camp if I'm reading you right, though a few spots on my ballot have gone to unexpected angles. I think that's due to my first really deep listen into the songbook coming from the Great Jewish Music compilation. There are some tracks on that compilation that I thought must be pretty wide variations from the set text, only to find out in the listening for this poll that they're not so far off after all.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:51 (five years ago) link

I'd say the Aretha version of "I Say a Little Prayer" deviates from the prototype, to name one

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 May 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link

Hey WmC, you don't have any spreadsheet etc, just doing manual collating from emails? Just checking bcs I'm off to Memphis tomorrow so need to submit tonight.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 3 May 2019 18:48 (five years ago) link

Yeah, email it is.

Go to Pho Saigon on Poplar and have the bun thom thit nuong cha gio, so good.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link

Thanks for the tip.

Submitted, wasn't sure if i'd go the email address right, let me know if it's come through.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Friday, 3 May 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link

Haven't gotten it yet. The address at the top is googleproofed, the µ should be a u.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link

Just got a ballot, all lowercase.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 21:58 (five years ago) link

Lowercase not a problem, just mentioned it as an identifier.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 21:59 (five years ago) link

Just noticed a problem, you have 2 different versions of a song on your ballot, sent you an email back about it.

WmC, Friday, 3 May 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link

Props to Noel Gallagher for introducing me to him via his 'Rebellious Jukebox' piece in Melody Maker when i was about 17, i bought a 24 track early 90s 'best of' (The Bacharach and David Songbook)as a result.

and his cover of this is great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIZHzLd0Cak

piscesx, Friday, 3 May 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link

I just listened to the Promises, Promises original cast recording and I may have to make a change on my ballot. (Not saying which song.)

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7BF367F005988986

WmC, Saturday, 4 May 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

Oooh, I only just realised on hearing the overture that I'm voting for one track myself. Wasn't aware of its origin!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 4 May 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

Listening to Samuel Jonathan Johnson's My Love today I was reminded of his very nice version of What the World Needs Now is Love, which is followed by the funky extended outro Sweet Love.

screator, Sunday, 5 May 2019 04:47 (four years ago) link

I am up to six ballots in and I hope every Burt-lover out there will vote. Rollout won't happen until the week of the 13th, as paying work is being dragged out due to client health issues.

WmC, Sunday, 5 May 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link

79 different songs have votes so far.

WmC, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

^ that's awesome.

i'm getting fatigued by hearing version after version so i've just decided to just cut my ballot at 25 and call it a day. will email my finished list shortly.

budo jeru, Monday, 6 May 2019 04:55 (four years ago) link

okay, voted.

budo jeru, Monday, 6 May 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link

That makes 8 ballots -- how many can we get?

https://www.theopennotebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Your_Vote_Counts_Badge.jpg

WmC, Monday, 6 May 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link

Tabulation trivia - one of the songs has four votes, all from different artists.

WmC, Monday, 6 May 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

So no extension? If not, what time is the deadline?

How I Redd One of the Blecchs (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 May 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

Can probably get a ballot in by Wednesday, maybe by tomorrow

L'assie (Euler), Monday, 6 May 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

I'll take ballots all through this week. Rollout won't happen until next week.

WmC, Monday, 6 May 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

9 ballots in.
6th and 7th place are one point apart, 6th and 9th are 20 points apart.

WmC, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

I voted, really wanted to throw a vote for Dorothy Ashby's version of 'The Look of Love'. Hope someone else does.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link

That's not which version you had in your ballot -- you want me to change it to Ashby?

WmC, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

I may have misunderstood yr post

WmC, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link

No, the version I voted for is the correct one. Just regretted not being able to vote for Ashby.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

Gotcha.

Five songs have points from four different artists! Only one of those five songs is in the top 15!

WmC, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

Gonna have to scramble. With a few exceptions, probably going to vote for mostly obvious stuff, especially early stuff on Scepter, especially if Paul Griffin is on it.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 11:47 (four years ago) link

Your daily reminder to vote! With a low turnout, everybody who votes can be sure their ballot will carry a lot of weight.

WmC, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

Okay, thanks. Slowly compiling a ballot.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Sent!

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 May 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link

rad

budo jeru, Thursday, 9 May 2019 05:02 (four years ago) link

I count a dozen or so unballoted posters upthread who said they'd vote or vaguely indicated interest -- please give a few minutes to hammer out your ballot! NV, Morbs, rushomancy, Euler, Darin, et al...

WmC, Thursday, 9 May 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

I am putting one together right now!

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 9 May 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

Promises, promises.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

Obviously the results thread has to be called One Less Poll to Answer.

WmC, Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

dunno if ongoing life crash will permit

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link

voted

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 9 May 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

Sorry, Morbs, hope things improve for you.

Highest-ranked song with all points from one version: {redacted} place
Lowest-ranked song with points from more than one artist: 60th place

WmC, Thursday, 9 May 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

Make it easy on yourself, Doctor.

Careless Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 May 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

One of the weirder bootlegs in my music collection is Zumpano on the radio on “Burt Bacharach” night in 1999 playing:

24 Hours From Tulsa
Anyone Who Had A Heart
What The World Needs Now
Always Something There To Remind Me
My Little Red Book

It’s a fun listen if nothing else, and I can’t remember where I got it.

fancy the Dirkishness of carrying Doré a round (fionnland), Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

OK, I have a better sense of my work schedule (I hope). The thing is, my work client has newly-discovered cancer and is putting 95% of her time and attention into dealing with that, so a big project that should have been finished on the 1st isn't getting finished until next week. My part should be mostly done by Monday, fingers crossed. So I'm calling a hard deadline on ballots: MONDAY, MAY 13th by end of day. I will work on tabulations and artwork Tuesday and roll out results starting Wednesday.

Sorry this is dragging out past a month, I hate it when these polls do that. But you have plenty of time to vote!

WmC, Friday, 10 May 2019 11:57 (four years ago) link

I have a job application and a ballot scheduled to do tomorrow/Sunday, hangover permitting. Might well just vote for the songs rather than versions tho

call me cismale (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 May 2019 11:59 (four years ago) link


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